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tv   [untitled]    January 30, 2024 7:30pm-8:00pm IRST

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it should be from zero to finally one percent. home appliance city. the importance of elections in electing a strong parliament. the key is in the hands of the people. iran's honorable coach. the telegram channel is playing with the whole country, why don't you set the price in these 6 months? your question is an interesting question. you are a football manager. we don't want any kind of shirk therapy . in the name
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of god, greetings, politeness, respect, service to each one of you , dear and respected viewers, especially the higher election program of the leader of the revolution, in his recent meetings , real competition is one of the important pillars of the election. it means that the field is open for the presence of different political, economic and cultural views so that all these different currents can form a real competition in the big election contest. body and have an active presence in this field. one of the topics on which experts disagree is the management method and whether the cryptocurrency market is considered legal or illegal. it is clear that the range of supporters consider the crypto currency as a new tool for trading and think that in the current situation of our country, it can be used, for example, to bypass sanctions on the other side. critics point to the fraudulent market.
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which we sometimes witness that basically we can't consider it a very suitable tool to bypass the sanctions or basically consider it an alternative for the transactions we are doing, stay with the debate above with the guests that we will talk with, thank you, well here in the studio above , mr. kenani, professor the law of islamic azad university is present as well as mr. ashtian. member of the board of directors of the blockchain association, while greeting both the guests of the program, i would like to start with mr. karnani and this question, which is basically your disagreement with what is the current situation , in the name of allah, the most merciful, the most merciful, i offer my greetings to you, dear friend, respected colleague , and a viewer of the program . these two words, to give myself a reminder at least, may
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be enlightening and helpful for the dear viewers , and that is, basically, when we talk about a discussion , what are the purely human discussions, classical and interdisciplinary discussions, the discussions that they must combine technology and human fields together let's make it clear that people can look at the issue from their own personal point of view. people sometimes look at the issue from an angle, for example a preference, which they may not believe in, but they see it as appropriate to the current conditions of the society, so if i today, i am at your service. my best effort is to be completely impartial, completely scientific, and solely based on the function of exploring the discussion, which can be beneficial for our society, god willing, and if there are obvious disadvantages , to point out those disadvantages, for example, the institutions our legislation can make a better decision therefore, i see myself in this position . i am at your service. in response to this question , i would like to say briefly that before we talk about cryptocurrency, we must first talk about the level of respect and
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rationality that we offer to we ourselves and the technological world and the technologies that we will face, i would like to enter the term with this question , from the point of view of the society, from the point of view of the people , from the point of view of the legislative apparatus, from the point of view of the ruling government, basically, what is the philosophy of the concept of cryptocurrency? to which world can the world today? to which newer purposes, let me summarize the same discussions we had for years about commercial payments, such as a check, which was basically the question of whether this instrument is considered payment or self-payment, basically it is considered money, and we still have this question about cryptocurrencies. are cryptocurrencies , digital currencies, digital currencies and cryptocurrencies, which sometimes in most dialogues in today's iranian society are introduced from the same family and synonymously, which is really wrong and sometimes rightly so.
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we are talking about the general and specific relationship of the region, which, naturally, when we talk about digital currency, we definitely cannot. let's say that there is a digital width, but as the famous saying goes , let's call the width password from its opposite, so-called output because. as the famous saying goes, the general and the specific have a logical relationship, so at the beginning of the speech , we must make it clear that from the point of view of the philosophy of technology and the philosophy of technology , we are looking at what cryptography and digital widths are . in short, i believe that the word "currency " is in the interpretation, although it really has the function of land, although the code of widths and digital widths have the function of money , although it is really facilitating exchanges, although it is really the mediation of banking and exchange systems. a kind of deletion and many other functions, but in my opinion, it is still not in the legal system of the islamic republic of iran, nor in the perspective of international documents, in the approaches of international organizations such as the world trade organization
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, it is considered in the true meaning of the word width, which is considered wide in nature. we shouldn't do this, but if they are just a means of payment , we still have a series of problems and challenges , but i think that my definition is that yes, we use a set of data designed in a mathematical algorithm. and we are facing a computer that is introduced by the name of the name of the width the series of financial functions of finding are in open and direct conflict with the classic banking system , they also have new functions, but i will briefly mention some issues, such as the lack of monitoring and the way their transactions are active, which causes us to have ambiguities in the field, so the legislation is excellent. or not is an important issue that we have to answer. i am at your service, mr. konani , dear guest of your program, dear viewers of this program , i am at your service since approximately 2008, when
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blockchain technology or block chain was created , until 2013, well, a lot in the world. penetration rate it was not high, but since 2013, the issues that i think mr. doctor mentioned have been raised in the world, and in 2017, with the growth of the price of this market , almost most of the institutions came to the topic of what is the nature of this phenomenon or existence on the blockchain network. as you know , our country has an international accounting standard. and financial reporting has been accepted since the islamic revolution and perhaps one of the most accurate definitions that we go through a lot of this issue was done by defining digital assets or digital assets, which in my opinion is the subject of width password
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it definitely fits in that format and defining the password itself means considering the existence on the blockchain as a value in reality. a value whose root becomes valuable means that one person accepts it, can collect its ownership , can transfer its ownership to others, and assigns a rational benefit to it, assigns a rational value to it. as a code of value, in fact , we defined this species as an asset. an asset that can sometimes have a monetary function because of its divisibility characteristics the ability to transfer rarity and other subjects that it had, just like many things in history, such as students, having these characteristics became valuable to
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people, or salt lost its value by losing one of these characteristics. today, we have a class. we are faced with new assets, some of which are known as crypto assets, those that are packaged by central banks, so to speak, or the same width is pinned to each other with a national width, so to speak, and their format is called asset crypto, which is called an asset and an asset class are known when we look at this irs definition it is the most accurate definition, which was accepted by the united states sc after that, and even recently , etfs on this asset enter the globalization stock market with this exact definition as a legal asset , and we realize that it does not deny that it can work. to have money and therefore it was here that an interesting thing happened in the world at the level
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of legislation . other traditional markets such as real estate market, metal market the precious stock market emerged as an asset class, and it was natural that part of people's capital in the world and naturally in our own country would be attracted to this market. mr. kanani , let's see what you think about the status of legalization and the current situation of cryptocurrency in the country. yes, you see, it is really one of the most important discussions that we need to address and clarify in our own country . or abandoning approaches interested in legislation in this area. i strongly and authoritatively tell you that we in iran today with two
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we are faced with a legal divorce or two divorces from the concept of law and legislation in the field of cryptography. one divorce that our governmental governing body has, that is, the government body, specifically from the president to the cabinet and in government bodies, and an understanding of the concept of law and legislation that naturally the legislative branch and the parliament can have it. i find it deeply saddening the government's perception of the concept of encryption, or legislation in the area of ​​encryption. government disclaimer as the government's decision to take a stand against the legal status of password has been accepted, what does it mean, clearly, in the equal state of the government, the sentence is really offensive, even the writer of these lines can say that if the traders or those who deal with password. they themselves accept the riskiness of this phenomenon, they themselves commit that whatever the commitment is to themselves, of course, whatever happens here, they themselves
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are responsible for it, neither the government has support, nor the government 's system is helpful, nor is it responsible. we take a so-called passive position. what does it mean? in fact, this is an implicit prescription, that is, the government is somehow taking a position that we somehow agree with. with this situation, we have bought the so-called width password function, that is, if you and i exchange our width password. let's expand the term, because it may have an increasing or decreasing aspect like any other market. well, the government says that you should proceed with your own responsibility . because i don't see this as worthy of a legal discussion, i even hesitate to point out the meaning of the words, because sometimes there are even misspellings in the sentences used in this field, and it is annoying. and we don't need to go into it more than that, for example, in an approach to an organized collective network of buying and selling, for example, the code of satisfactions, so-called entry in this market
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, is prohibited, declaring parallel to this , parallel to this, we consider it as our legislative power. we can also see that our legislature, that is, our parliament , has not yet adopted any quick position in the field of cryptocurrencies . i strongly believe that the law in the strict sense of the word , law in the scientific sense of the word, means the approval of my parliament for government regulations, dignity and legal personality in the sense that it can. suited to the needs of society ok, the needs of our society need a focused and accurate legislation that can address the issue within the framework of sharia principles, because i would like to point this out, and if it is in your questions, i will be happy to discuss this. the position of the supreme leader is to attribute that his holiness, in response to the question, how do you see the situation of the secretaries and activists, that he referred to the legislative system, basically, this sentence
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cannot and is not attributed to him, because the sentence was misunderstood. his answer is that i advise refer to the state of legislation. pay attention to the laws and regulations of your country. from the point of view of islamic jurisprudence and the constitution of the islamic republic of iran , urbanization of law and city legislation are two completely different categories. if we seek to legalize the city, the way to we made a mistake and did something against the city. we must make the law shariah, the four principles of the constitution, so from the point of view of jurisprudence, we also accept these two positions that some people believe that the principle of abahe is the ruling one and they must carry out their activities absolutely without any need for legislation because if it wanted to be banned, the law should have said it and some others say no, as the famous saying goes, they put the assumption in the opposite of this situation and the middle view that refers to the laws. jurisprudence and poetry foundations in accepting technology any field of technology, whether it is code or anything else, we are not faced with the so-called theoretical refusal
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. our jurisprudence welcomes technology and science. the quality of the beer is that the quality of the brewery should be defined by the legislator mr. ashtiani, what do you think the legislation is like and how it should be? look, i disagree with mr. doctor on a certain point. by the way, in my opinion, one of the best sentences i saw in the laws of the country was the part that said in paragraph one of the resolution of the council of ministers approved on august 13, 2018. acceptance of risk or risk in crypto assets puts the risk on the part of the client . the fact is that we have seen it a while ago when we witness the encouragement from the government towards a financial market like now every market. the finance of this establishment expects and even in some of
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our regulations as discussed. we saw the licensed monetary and financial institutions at the time in 2016 and 2017. we saw that it was not due to time and from the government , even the funds deposited in these institutions or even banks. i wanted to say that we have very strict laws on this subject, when we have the definitions under the law, then we don't have it, and we have a very big legal gap, which in fact , our food system needs a unified approach. for this matter, and this is a piece that i want to present to you, that is, the definition of the nature of the encrypted entity , that is, the definition of the nature of crypto -currency. it can be an asset
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, it can also have a monetary function in tutel with a correct definition of digital asset, which we don't have . encrypted, which we don't have, with a firm legal definition, after that the previous laws and regulations are ruling, and if we come for any topic and technological field, which sometimes has a lifetime it won't be more than a few weeks or a few months . now the password is a type of currency that from its creation to its destruction, for example, maybe weeks, months or a year later , there will be no news of that currency at all. how can we with a strict law and it's hard to legislate the entire password . in my opinion, the law in the world of digital economy is a bit dry and rigid. instead of legislation, in my opinion, reid or any rail system or even guard rail system is more suitable for our digital economy field.
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we have to sleep for 3 months and wake up in the economic field for areas that are very variable and agile. now today, we are illiterate, if the number of airline users took 50 years to reach one million people, today we are witnessing that in the field of digital economy, it is a different matter, or in the field of blockchain and cryptocurrency, it is a matter in less than 24 hours. we are faced with one million users . how can we make strict legislation for this matter? of course, i would like to complete this point. i agree with the regulation of this field. regulation also defines my life. regulation means that we have bolts and nuts as variables. let's have a rate so that we can reach the desired state let's regulate the market to some extent, but if we want to see the areas of digital economy with a legislative approach, we have to stop and see, measure the risk , determine the framework, approve, and move forward
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. i say, in my opinion, we just wasted an opportunity, of course , until today , we wasted an opportunity with the way we took it, which i will mention. in the exploration of oil in
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the aerospace, you can have a taste, an emotional taste, and experience talk about a job and... in the interpretation of two components, at least in the legal system in the social system of the islamic republic of iran, you cannot speak without equipping yourself with the minimum necessary knowledge. second, when dealing with the science of law, the legal texts are as difficult as we have them, and to the same extent that they require special notation, my legal science and understanding of legal issues also require this amount of notation. to reach the goal, to be at the point of 100% evolution, maybe in marriage they can help the owner and possessor of that field to be able to half the fan. study a minimum of legal and legal propositions, then see how difficult it is and how much decency it requires , it requires scientific decency and scientific intelligence to face
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legal issues and the science of law. the product of legal policy, legal policy, a subset of general policy, we must have a methodical intellectual discipline to regulate our financial system, for example, we do not need in every field for every unit of economic, political, social, and legal development. let us be independent, if the parliament of the islamic republic of iran has not done anything since the beginning of the revolution and this is really a warning to all those who are concerned about this now , they will appear in the parliament as representatives of the nation and help to legislate this. i would like you to know that once and for all as a member of the parliament, if you are elected, god willing, think about the concept of community legislation . if we have community legislation , it is enough in the field of economic law. there are many, many, to the extent that it is enough
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for example, if we had written the computer crimes law of 2008 in the form of a society law , today we would not have to worry about the fact that this law has even wrongly defined theft . the law of 2008 has even wrongly defined computer fraud. maybe many of my friends are active in the field of cryptography . sir, if my information is hacked in some way, for example, if our assets are stolen , what is the status of the follow-up, what crime am i facing now, our current laws do not answer this, because we do not have society's legislation, unfortunately, and we have adopted a very market -oriented , sloppy, undisciplined approach. for example, i look at it from a market angle. he looks at the issue from the perspective of, for example, elections, as the famous saying says. let's talk scientifically and scientifically. if we have a society's legislation, whether in the cyber space or in the normal and classical space , we will not have any so-called problems in the next 20 years in the face of the modern technological world, because
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the society's legislation extends to everything so-called. as the famous saying goes, those discussions and solutions that take the initiative, i want you to see a proposal, a clearer opinion , for example, a society law that wants to include, for example, even rosa's field, i say a lot, this is where the problem is, because i respect it a lot. so that the so-called discussion does not become more so, but we can discuss the society's legislation when we can discuss it with a person who has read at least 130 units of the prerequisite law, so that i can bring it up, not people are bored of hearing the classic legal discussion from they have my language, no, this space is a space that is equipped with minimum knowledge in the field, that's why let me go through this, but for us lawyers, i will use switzerland as an example. you can see a simple example that fits all the laws of switzerland throughout its history. it has not been equivalent to the approvals of the board of the government of the islamic republic of iran since the beginning of 1402 until now. i repeat, the entire financial and economic criminal laws of switzerland
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have not been equivalent to the approvals of the board of the government of the islamic republic of iran since the beginning of the year 4 until now, when we are at the door of bahman 42. well, this is it. it is already clear, i think that this word will clarify for the audience what the purpose of the legislation of the society is, mr. ashnini, now the point it is interesting to point out, mr. doctor , that the country of switzerland is currently dealing with the phenomenon of random passwords. doctor, we will be happy to tell you . since 2017, the country of switzerland has proposed the sro method or self-regulation and its own institutions for this issue, by the way, and maybe until to some extent , this issue is compatible with your discussion, that is , the upper laws of the economy have not been changed for any digital economy issue or any new issue, but the requirements have been replaced. the new laws have made different criminalizations in the same way, such as solicitation or encouragement an empty promise or an empty promise
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is something that we don't have in our country, and we are witnessing the fact that the advertisers are pushing on fake topics that we will only see after the people are actually hurt, and we don't have the right society laws in this field. yes, there is an upper law , not about the crypto currency. in my opinion, the issue that the doctor is referring to is an issue that goes far beyond the cryptocurrency issue. it can be raised about the macro issue, and for me, the question is what should we do in crypto currency, today's concern. i am for the country, this is why i am here, we are in the space we created for the country in the field of regulation up to now, what has happened up to now is that we stopped the growth and development, why did we take an active business that could not actually develop the appropriate tools in this field, and it has caused the iranian person to be in a competitive position. a beautiful technique can be found in a foreign platform in the field of cryptography, and unfortunately, this is one of the biggest kernel damage that we
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have seen in the field of cryptography. a foreign platform blocked all of iran's cryptocurrency assets, iranians, and everyone . before that, in 2013, a platform called emtigax suffered a breakdown, and no one got anything. there was no place, especially if it is from iran, this is one of the things that our national wealth is in danger, when we accept that this is an opportunity that has arisen for the people and for the country that we are such a limitless asset in the world. the boundless future and the boundless digital economy is unimaginable without this kind of property. well , when we, who have a beautiful opportunity, our country , the people, anyway , i read the report with some influence, it was almost equal to russia. we have a penetration rate of about 10 and one tenth percent when we have such an opportunity
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, our user chooses foreign business and competitor for new tools. we couldn't even get an opportunity to attract when the uae and turkey are laying the red carpet under the feet of this issue with a special kind of regulation. in fact , we couldn't get a market share even from the neighboring countries. the reason for this is the business owner . i am worried that with this type of harvesting that i want to do, will my store be open or closed tomorrow ? what is the reason for this? without regulation, not lawlessness, without regulation, another one of the situation is the lack of development of our educational field. you still want to keep the education in the next part . please allow me to complete the field of education. up to
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scientific articles from our university professors in the field. after all these years and so many users, this situation is a bit strange. this is due to the shortness of the cry regulation, which i think is worthy of criticism, which is the fact that it is my own fault. thank you, mr. keshtian. do you understand that your proposal regarding legislation is preventing growth and development and that this is regulation. in the middle of the propositions that you mentioned , the middle proposition, i would like to point out that the function of economic growth and the function of the so-called capitalist in the real sense of this matter, so there can be no opposition at all . let's say, can ramreza really help
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people in our society now? help me, i believe in myself , see the civil law, we define property, we say property must be something or an asset that has benefit to be rationally accessible means that this is our entire definition of property in our civil rights, therefore , whatever we want to call property or property , it must have these parameters in a cumulative and cumulative manner . our problem is that we have to sit together at a scientific table and make it clear that, sir , you can see now, considering that we can't talk about the issue at the moment, neither has the government's prescription taken a position that, in my opinion, is one of the he says that there is a so-called horseshoe, which means that the government is coming . in fact, it accepts from an angle that the code of latitudes they have legal restrictions, it comes from the other side , it takes a kind of guard that the audience has asked me many times if the government says that crypto is legal, even now we have an exchange that is operating in this field, well, this is in the strict sense of the word, if we look at it , it is a structural intention.
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the government is complaining that the government does not clarify its position, the lack of transparency of the government's position is a fact that we really need to see, that is, the government knows that if it says openly now, even the central bank will ban transactions in the field of crypto-currency, which is now the deputy of the judiciary's crime prevention this fall. this is an official matter activities in the field of cryptography are prohibited, of course, with a stipulation that it takes an organized aspect, and that it takes a membership aspect, that he declared no crime, of course, he meant pyramid activities, doctor. i will say the same thing with an adverb exactly as they state that it should be in some way, for example, an organization . excuse me , doctor, one thing we should pay attention to is that the nature of this field based on the blockchain platform is uncontrollable in the whole world.

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