in the final of the africa cup of nations , the south african national team advanced to the final eight teams with a 2-0 victory over morocco, while mali won 2-1 against burkina faso. thank you for your company. today is wednesday, the 11th of bahman, the 19th of rajab, and the 31st of january. sunset in tehran at 17:00. the maghrib call to prayer will be at 17:49 and midnight will be at 23:35. dear fellow citizens, thank you very much for your support. i invite you to be a special viewer of the election program in the future. it will be performed by my colleague mr. shayan. thank you, mr. zorian. hello and have a good time, dear viewers , as i told you in the headlines of nimroz news, today the topic of the higher program

is the discussion of farhangian university and whether teachers should only be recruited from graduates of this university or graduates of other universities. they will also have the opportunity to be recruited in education . we will discuss this issue with two former officials of the ministry of education and farhangian university , but our opportunity has ended in ik sima . if you are interested, please , khabar sima network. follow the importance of elections in electing a strong parliament, the key is in the hands of the people. the iranian coach, sharaf iran, has a telegram playing with the whole country. why are you setting prices in this month ? your question is an interesting question . we do not want to be a football manager .

in the name of allah, the most merciful , the most merciful, the people of iran, dear compatriots, hello, have a good time , welcome to the higher today, well, as i said. today , the higher program deals with farhangian university, a university that was established in 1390 by gathering teacher training centers across the country and currently has about 90,000 students, 20 to 25 students per year. it graduates a thousand people and these graduates are recruited as education teachers, but since the number of retirees from the ministry

of education is more than this number every year, there is a discrepancy between the graduates of this university and actually the retirees of the ministry of education. has arisen and this problem has caused the education to face a shortage of teachers. in any case, this issue has caused the presence of farhangian university and that only the ministry of education is obliged. to attract his own forces from among the university graduates and to face his supporters and opponents. today with the presence two of the dignitaries who are responsible for both the farhangian university and the ministry of education are going to debate this issue. please accompany us to the end. welcome. well me

first of all, dear guests , i would like to introduce today's program to you, mr. dr. ebrahim sahrkhiz , former deputy of the ministry of education , our other dear guest, mr. dr. reza kechoiyan, the former vice president of farhangian university, if you allow us to start the discussion with mr. sarkhiz, mr. sarkhiz, as the first the question was basically what was the purpose of establishing farhangian university and do you think it is for this purpose in the name of allah, the most gracious, the most merciful , first of all, i would like to congratulate on the arrival of the victory day of the iranian islamic revolution of the decade of fajr, and to all the dawn makers of the proud and proud islamic nation of iran, especially the colleagues of khudom, far ghid, and the knowledgeable teacher. and

the culture of my country, iran, i thank your excellency and sed and vasima for the importance of the place. sometimes education and a strategic and governing university as farhangian university, see what farhangian university shows according to its constitution , its philosophy and why as a university with an identity. professional mission-oriented to provide training to empower me... committed and efficient expert human resources of the education system of the islamic republic of iran has been established, that is, it has sought to train a teacher at the level of the islamic revolution of iran, what

we have in the transformation document. in the general policies announced by the supreme leader, you are reminded that in resolution no. 8. the supreme council of the cultural revolution has approved , in addition to this resolution, in the sixth plan, we also have the resolution of the parliament that education is obliged to provide the expected force to its needs, and only through the two universities of rajai and "let's supply farhangian. this question may arise, so why?" we actually want to give the reference only to farhangian university, and why should the channel of recruitment and entry of personnel as a major educational input start from farhangian university ? be it

what i am quoting here are the words of the former president of farhangian university, who himself holds a chair in program planning. a year has passed since the life of educational sciences faculties , everyone dares to claim that educational sciences universities in the last one hundred years have changed from what they neglecting the category of teacher education is also neglect in terms of limiting ourselves to our practice in the field of education. university teachers could not produce knowledge and theoretical infrastructure in the field of teacher training, and in other words, there is no effort in the specialized field of education and training, especially

teacher training. this indifference is indifference. to teacher training and the lack of formation of the scientific society of teacher training on the one hand and on the other hand, let it be a brilliant obstacle that our universities were formed before tehran university and in other words, we are actually proud that our first graduates were those who entered education, of course, in secondary school. second, at the time we used to say high school, now we say second high school and after that, see education from the point of view of the senior policymaker of the system, that is, the position of the supreme leader is a sovereign body and this sovereignty cannot be handed

over. from the past years, i have seen them say that formal public education is in the dignity of sovereignty. and the state and this sand is inseparable, that is, it is inevitable and can be assigned in the plural form it is not possible to be productive, in fact, now that education is the most important element in teacher education and training, yes, we must train teachers with the same characteristics that the government expects, but the story of other universities has also shown experience. both in the field of thought and thought , in fact, they could not produce an intellectual and theoretical infrastructure for us in the field of education and train teachers, and our experience has shown that those who

are pure graduates of universities of educational sciences and faculties of educational sciences cannot become teachers. if i want, i can find success from the elders. that now it is well remembered that mr. haddad adel has a book called "a way to the end of goodness" in this book he mentions great people, many of whom are the authors of textbooks. these are all those who started from the school and then the famous teacher. becoming a university mr. doctor, if you allow me to interrupt your conversation right here. well, mr. dr. kechiyan and mr. sarkhiz say that first of all, because education is actually a matter of governance and we have to maintain our authority in teacher education, and on the other hand, basically , other universities have shown that the capacity of teacher education does not have and only people who graduate from this university

become specialists in the sciences they are specialized in, and they may not be trained in teaching techniques . i wanted to see if this is the case. the 12 years of performance of farhangian university have shown that, well , today we are facing a shortage of teachers . finally, what should we do? very well, i would like to say hello to your honorable doctor and the respected audience of your program. here are some points that he said today: considering my work experience, i was a member of the farhangian university of the country for 10 years with pride, maybe some of your audience and friends will like it don't be my dear but we definitely cannot close our eyes to the facts. today, the development of excellence and success depends on realism and realistic thinking . dear dr. sarkhiz aziz, it is very unfair in my opinion. he said that the outputs of the faculties

of educational sciences are really a good achievement for the education of knowledge. i want the facts of these, that is, where and with what evidence, for many years , the country's faculties of educational sciences have actually been the mother faculties in the country in different provinces of educational sciences, and these are actually training teachers for the country. and for us, the output of those teachers are very distinctive faces they are so big that if we want to name them, it will have a very long list . therefore , i basically do not agree with this part of the doctor's orders, but look at the issue of the monopoly of farhangian university today, we are going to discuss this with each other. as a sovereign university

, it should be under the control of farhangian university and shahid rajaei university, or it is possible to provide a basis for other universities to actually help farhangian university, otherwise i will proudly spend 10 years of my life in this university. i spent today as a person from this university. since farhangian university was established, mr. dr. mohibbinia, mr. dr. mehrmohammadi, mr. dr. khanifar, and after them mr. dr. sahrai, now mr. dr. qiyazi , i strongly defend everyone's efforts, but everyone's efforts are based on tastes. this is having a team, consulting with their team, making decisions and going part of the way, but the question is. you see, in your question, the answer that i have to give is underlined, if we are limited to

farhangian university, with the need of each and every one of them, the education and what should we do with our education? what should we really do? look, naturally, education and training needs between 120 and 130 thousand people every year . there are less than 40,000 and 50,000 people, usually 40,000 to 50,000 people. mr. sarkhiz retires, so you should look basically, we are now facing a crisis in education and training , so who should replace this force? now, let us insist that this force must be replaced by farhangian university . can farhangian university be able to? ali despite all the effective measures that he has done so far, but he has not been able to fill this

void. the first issue is that farhangian university does not have the required physical spaces. when i say physical spaces, it means that we do not have enough classrooms , we do not have an amphitheater hall , we do not have a place for students to pray. we have buildings that are very old, they are very old, and god forbid, any of them may create a problem for our students, for our professors, and in general for the governance complex, in fact , for centralized management in tehran. the second pyramid board

you see, the scientist of farhangian university, we can name a place as a university, or if we name it a university , we should pay attention to how universities work . the pillars of universities are their faculty members. now, in addition to their students , there is an audience of visitors, but after all, we faculty need to have a university that you promoted as a pillar of excellence and development of the ministry of education has been considered as an ideal slogan . person you said a number , i want to correct it. the number you said is our student teachers, plus our skilled students, plus those who are assigned assignments. according to the definition approved by the honorable parliament

, our number is 17,000. the definitions are different in university systems. it is different, but we combine all these loved ones in one. farangia university has 117 thousand students, what will be the ratio of students to our academic staff now?

mehr mohammadi's interview that you did on the night of the reporter that farhangian university is not able to train 300,000 people , which is my impression of shamseh, one of the honors of our sheikh , ate honey and said sweet, yes, well, doctor, they say that we should take his reference to the university. there exists in iran this thinking of the third plan, in fact, it has been developed since the time of marham mashmi , rafsan jani .

he said that this thought of outsourcing the school is a heavy task for him. the government wants a big budget it is a betrayal of the country that the sovereign should take responsibility for the sole responsibility in the discussion of education . why do you see farhangia university? for 8 years, mr. rouhani's government did not take a step to hire teachers . they illegally made someone the head of farhangia university, who does not agree with the employment at all. they agree with education and breeding please read the fars news agency coupon, their interviews are still available, recently i reached mr. khatami's office, he said , he is facing three crises: the legitimacy crisis , the quality crisis, another crisis .

to be diversified, the government should pour some money like gasoline subsidy into the accounts of the families. anyone can find a school according to their pocket, poor children and in fact the lower deciles of the society go to normal schools where the teacher has to tolerate 58 people in the class, the teacher does not have to buy service, those who have money go to luxury schools where even the judicial menu is sometimes sometimes millions of tomans have to be spent. in tehran , we have a school with 100 million tomans. we have a school that has a menu. this thinking has followed since the third program until now. i didn't want it to be a university at all. the minister of education, mr. fani, did not look for hiring a teacher for 8 years. he said that in the past we don't need to hire a lot, it has been reduced, the density of previous needs has reached 300,000

, and there is a solution. in fact, of course, the former president of the university changed article 28. the issue was not that we were supposed to hire for special fields, which the education system does not have the capacity to train. this generalization, i told a teacher of my school to take article 28, now we have reached a crisis. i tell him that he is losing his mind, no one said, article 28 , don't take the test, sir, he says that we don't have the facilities, if these facilities are available in this government, the leader who is the policy maker. the system has its general policies, it says that our payam noor university is empty, azad university is empty, once azad university itself used our facilities , now what's next? i believe that farhangian university, if it wants. in order to survive , its faculty must be recruited and its content must be changed, not the content of educational science faculties

, its content must be coordinated with the research organization in a structure. we don't want physics elite, we need physics education, math education, we need education we need science and i don't have teachers. you go . the teacher wants to be a member of the academic staff . he is the first rank of the university. it is not clear whether he will be a successful teacher or a successful professor . look at the time of shiraz and the time of mr. rouhani, he says that when we have so many graduates , why do we have a university?

farhangian universities 2019 2019 2020 2021 2012 2012 2012 2012 2012 2012 2012 it has something to do with farhangilam university . you were the deputy minister . yes, i am saying that during the 8 years of mr. rouhani's government, you had 80,000 to 70,000 retirees. at one time, if we want, we are short of 300,000 teachers. your entire

employment, dr. fani, became the minister of education in the event that you and dr. haji babaei sobh decided to increase the five grades of the primary class to six grades. the deputies, including me, were in that council meeting i was the deputy. he came and announced that with five , for example, the first grade, the second , the third, the fourth, the fifth grade, the sixth grade, without us, we had 176 thousand jobs for the sixth grade. the head of the human resources center is alive now , they exist

, they are present, they can say that we didn't have them at all, i am saying that there are 300,000 teachers who are lacking today, mr. sahraei , they were produced overnight, they were not produced overnight, mr. doctor, you also accept the forgiveness, it was during your period of responsibility. but let me see, mr. doctor, when the input channel education can become a farhangian university . it was your order, but you are referring to the order of the supreme leader, which specifically teaches teacher training through the university's channel and mosque. you see, farhangian university wants. let

50,000 people enter, as you promised , let 300,000 people enter. i am telling you that you and dr. haj babaei took 164 of our technical and professional buildings overnight and gave them to our technical and vocational university when i and mr. badhai , we walked and went to the president of the technical and vocational university . we did not transfer to our name, we must transfer the documents . once we made a decision, we went to him and said, sir, 12,030 of this document has been transferred to your name. now, we don't have enough buildings and educational space to train teachers for our own students . he told us a joke, a joke, he told us that, sir , first of all, you should make the document in our name, the approval of the parliament, you must give it to

the university. we went to the rooms of the buildings we took from you and saw that there was a laptop in the room there was a printer, there was a tv , there was a computer , but now this is not the case. we added all these together. it is 3 billion tomans . it is 3 billion tomans. i don't want to start with a billion tomans, where are you going to be a technical professional, where are you going to university, we are not, when a student says, we are now saying teacher training, graduates should return to the system, what percentage of graduates and students and book education should return to the system? mr. doctor, i am saying this number of assets

and our building from farhangian university should have the capacity to produce 300,000 graduates a year. do you agree that this authority should be maintained or will there be no trace of quality, dear mr. shayan mehr, look, you have a container in this glass of the same size. you can pour water on us and see the story. now, i am talking about the fact that farhangian university

has been a success in a decade of its activity and work, unfortunately, in terms of quantity. i was at a university . i must defend the dignity of the university i was the vice president of. deputy supervisor, why did all universities give student tuition fees of 27 million, and you gave 17 million to students? mr. doctor, yes, you should have gone . you were the vice president of the university. you were the president of the university who was the head of the university for 7 years and 4 years illegally. why didn't you try ? the per capita of farhangian university is lower than all the universities in the country. 17 million, why do you say yes, i believe

there is a problem with the calbarish space you should have gone. you were in charge of the budget for 4 years of university. you appointed someone who was a 40-year-old retiree the program organization did not defend itself at all, you promised the program organization, you announced that the university should be closed, we should hand over the schools , buy services, mr. doctor , do you know the budgeting system in your country ? he delivered the budget on the 14th to the parliament. something goes to the parliament , it is approved, and then it is notified to the guardian council. if we can, mr. doctor, every day, don't you see that you say you didn't go? how much do i have to say? i was at your service