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naming the important elements of the election means that the field is open for the presence of different political, economic, and cultural viewpoints so that everyone can participate in the big election contest with their differences and with their own different viewpoints and form a real competition and in this have an active presence. one of the issues that experts disagree on is the issue of creating or not creating or increasing the number of free trade zones. you must have heard that you are in favor of increasing the number of free zones and that their existence is a way for now to avoid the embargo, to boost production, to avoid any now we should have more production in that region , economic boom and explanations like this on the opposite side of the opposition, there is a very famous saying that they say that free zones have become a gateway for imports, a way to bypass tax laws and similar events.

let's have a discussion with the supporters and opponents of the creation of free zones and discuss the issues that i have presented to you in more detail. come with us. well, here in the upper studio, mr. khazaei, the economic vice president of the free zone of arvand, is also present, as well as mr. karimi, an economic expert, who opposes the creation of free zones. free zones allowed i want to start with mr. karimi, while greeting god's strength to both guests and the question, basically, why with the increase in the number of free areas of the opposition, in the name of god , the most merciful , the most merciful, i offer my greetings, courtesy and respect to you, dear and respected guest , mr. khazaei and all the dear and respected viewers, first of all, i would like to congratulate the happy decade of fajr to all our dear and respected compatriots throughout

islamic iran, and i also congratulate the victory of our national team. i wish success to the iranian national team . basically, when it comes to the establishment of free zones we talk about increasing the number of free zones when we discuss well, this shows that a number of free zones in our country were established today. some people agree that the number of free zones should be increased, of course. of course, whether we agree or disagree , the islamic council has done its job in establishing free zones, and it has done this, and the number of free zones, unfortunately , has increased greatly in the last one or two years , so we should go back to the old free zones. the old free zones and the past free zones are basically our policymakers in this specific target area.

considering the establishment of free zones, does it have a role in the country's economy? free zones considering whether we really established our free zones based on a business-industrial perspective. is there really a special task for these? if we go back to the past, we see that, unfortunately, we are not in the process of establishing free zones. not in the development of the infrastructure of the country's free zones, not in providing the necessary incentives and facilities to attract domestic and foreign investors, not in the ways of financing the organizations of the free zones , and not in creating a unified management from the perspective of facilitating the entry of investors into the free zones. we did not do well with the policies that in the last 3 decades

, there have been extremely wrong policies for the effect of the free zones , and unfortunately, we have not learned from this wrong policy that today , when the first sentence about the free zones is said, all the free zones are yes. these are import gates , these are places of smuggling, these are places of money laundering. unfortunately, this is how it is said. basically , the policy of the last 3 decades regarding free zones shows that we do not have a specific plan for the establishment of our free zones anywhere in any area. we are and still are not willing to our own mistake, let's go back. and let's go back from this wrong track and determine the position of our free zones in the economic map of the country, then let's see if we need to establish new free zones today

or not. and the depth of the establishment of free zones in the country has not yet reached and the number is increasing. free zones are not only not in the interest of the country, and not only will it not affect iran's position in trade and foreign affairs , but it can end up harming even the investors in the country. thank you very much, mr. khazaei. what is your opinion? do you think that you should first say whether you agree with mr. karimi's statement or not, and whether you should say that the areas of qazid should be increased or not ? dear friends , i congratulate you on the ten days of fajr and the anniversary of the victory of the islamic republic of iran, and i send greetings to the pure souls of the martyrs of imam shahada, from the martyrs of 15 khordad

to the martyrs of baghdad airport, haj qasim, and the martyrs of the homeland until this day, god willing, they will all be our prayers. and let us be stable under the shadow of amir al-mu'minin, your presence. that first of all, it is an important issue , the position of different places has been discussed, but the point is that the new free zones , as mr. karimi said, have been approved by law . when a new free zone wants to be approved, all the organs of the republic must approve it , that is, it should become a text. text in the government in the supreme council in the government in the majlis in the shura in the guardian council. i would like to thank your honorable service. later, sometimes, in recognition of the expediency of all the organs of the republic , they pass a law. well, as mr. karimi said , they agree with me. they are the new judges because it has already been approved and is now being implemented. we should we were raising the question in a different way

. what should we do with the approved free zones so that they work better and gain experience from our previous free zones and move forward.

in the free logic , they are reviewing what happened before in the form of experience, which if in our own words , now we say strategic , they find out its strengths and weaknesses, they strengthen the work that was good , they don't do the work that was not right , you see, we two we had a generation of free zones, well , the free zones of the first generation were kish, qeshm, and chabahar , and the second generation zones were arvand, ars, anzali, and then mako was added to us and finally froud. imam, our active regions, the second generation of which was implemented almost since 84-85, each of them has a disadvantage in relation to their own region, and the performance in relation to their own region should be good. it was not good. i

can say that your policy was good. why was it good ? mr. karimi, tell me. mr. karimi says that i did not have any community plan and what was the plan of the community of the free zones that was approved. was it done or not? mr. karimi said that, for example, the infrastructure was not good. tell me where it was not good i will explain that, sir, is this infrastructure good or not, is it for tecmin zeiss? the structure of free zones, to work or not, again, i answer that work means we have a point. if we make a claim , the point is that the free zones are new. now, i really want to be clear about the free zone. maybe we were talking about the zones before the program. azad is oppressed in a way because, well , because of being outside the center in the border points in the cities, i myself am a border dweller, as the famous southern saying says, i know that and that. they don't have the media, so we can't defend it

dear sir, please tell me what was wrong with your policy, i will explain the policy, tell me why we didn't have a vision, tell me what was not special for you, or about the infrastructure, i am at your service, and then i will explain about it. how are the new functions, what should we do, that our new manatas will be our next generation, this third generation was better than our second generation, just as we used our second generation to make our first generation better, i will do this for you. i am sorry for your presence, our times will be saved, not us it is impossible to save, not only in the past 3 decades in the field of establishing free zones, i.e. from the first generation to the second free zone, not only have we not performed well, but also in the field of politics. we have done worse things. look, when they say

the community plan is my plan , i talked with the authors of the free zone community plan and i talked about the free zones of our first generation, which has a large demographic structure . you have responsibility in the free zone. abadan and khorramshahr are there. you should tell us that in these almost two decades since the establishment of the free zone arvand is passing by, what challenges did you face regarding the presence of the population in these free zones ? sorry, the plan of the community of the free zones. i would like to say this . free zones are urban and architectural writers.

they have no sense of industrial trade centers, i talked to each one of them. i am saying, sir, that you were the author of the community plan for a certain free zone, your view of this free zone was really a commercial and industrial platform for which you wrote the community plan for this free zone, which later go write a detailed plan for him, he will answer me, sir, he does not ask me for such a thing at all. the authors of the community plan are the authors of the urban plan in the country, that is, basically, the view of our policy maker and our executive. now, i believe that after all these discussions and after all the data that we have collected about the new free zones, we are going to write a community plan that has studies. the market has also been moving, but it is still not at the optimal point. again , only in this case, in my opinion, a small progress has been made regarding the new generation. which is also not at the optimal point because we have daily these are related. the second point about the development

of the infrastructure of your development. after 20 years and 30 years of chabahar, chabahar free zone. first of all, what resources has the government considered for the development of the infrastructure of the free zone? we came in the worst possible situation. first, cut from 40 billion dollars to 50. we give free zones, you go and do imports , reduce this 15% commercial profit, you buy from me, you buy from these importers, then you develop the infrastructure for yourself, today in our free zones, to find importers, there is a competition for general managers and you have ceos and vice presidents of economics. and investment, instead of facilitating the production space , they are looking for importers

who will bring their goods from the free zone into the mainland , get this 15% commercial profit , generate income, this is one point, a source of income that makes the free zone infamous. he told me once to sell the land, he told me to sell the land , collect taxes, generate income for yourself and give an infrastructure development zone. are you today? the customs of the ports of all the means of transportation of the rail port are all of these ok, are they all? it is in a favorable condition, so mr. khazaei, i would like to ask you about one that i will answer. your service regarding the planning of the urban planning community is very surprising . i was surprised at all . introduced as a free zone, the first plan that should be approved is the community plan, obviously it should

be an urban plan, this has not been a free zone before . when you want to free a region or any other region, the first thing you do you have to do your thing in this urban base of the city area, you have to approve the community plan, which has to be approved by the government for all areas, generation one , generation two, next generation, yes, then it will happen now , for example, in arvand azad zone or other areas , the capital society plan the establishment of a more industrialized

society plan. i ask you, sir, that the environment is like this . can you do without it? i ask that you all be in the presence of god. well, now we are in the presence of the dear people of iran. if we speak , we make a claim, we must bring justice to it. you said politics. i said which policies we didn't explain, so he didn't allow it, you said, you said it was my plan i explained that the community plan is the basis of the rest of my width and

the infrastructure of all other plans. the community plan has been approved by the government and one of them is being implemented. regarding the infrastructure, there is the government, which means that this is good , it is the government. i understand that it is caused by the government, and on that is the community plan, which is the rest of the other parts of the organization , that is, the cultural and tourism sector, that is, we have a tourism community plan, we have an industrial community plan, a sustainable community plan we have a strategic community plan, a program for each sector, as the famous saying goes, it follows its vision and moves on that road map . this is a bad thing at all. alhamdulillah, it is done in the new free zones have done a very good and better job, because of the experience of the second generation free zones, having a plan is starting to work sooner, which means that there is a lot of work to be done, the initial work has been completed, and the draft has been prepared so that when the new free zone starts working , it will have a plan. on the detailed plan of the interpretation plan that you mentioned, the interpretation plan of the tuition fees

, we again have a separate society plan for our economic discussions . before the region should be freed. these borders exist now . for example, in khorramshahr, for example, in chabahar, this port was khorramshar. before the azan region, which was 50 years ago, a

part of the region became a freed zone . when the region was liberated, the goods entering the mainland were placed in the heart of the free zone. it has been registered that the order of the mainland is registered in tehran and it can be declared at any of iran's customs offices . it can be declared at the customs office of one of the ports in the free zones . the customs of the free zones, i have no problem with it, then what to do now the 15% that you say is the government's right, and the government is paying this, this business is paying the government to the free zones with a limited figure of 15. now they ask a question, what are these free zones if they are not 15. it used to go in the account, where is it in the treasury account, but now yes, but in the account , now, i will use the two minutes that were there, and i will add 6 minutes to your service. it has now

come to the account of the free zones, but it has a small amount. what is the difference? note that the two free zones are only done in construction projects, yes, that means these projects construction is now 70. the incomes of the free zones have been construction projects since the beginning, if this money did not come. if it was spent there, it would go to the treasury . would it return to jolfa? yes , would it return to mako ? no, it would not. i will explain to you about my infrastructure. there is karimi in the wrong policy making and unfortunately lack of motivation. in the absence of a correct understanding of the context of the free zone in the islamic republic, it is enough that the economic deputy of a

free zone, the economic deputy of a free zone, is enough the way of infrastructure development in the free zone is being defended, especially about the way the government has the revenue of the regional organization. as long as the free zones in our country do not have a business development plan. that is, practically, our government and policy makers still don't know for which region, mr. doctor, why do you think they have a development plan , i know they don't have one, and i know that they don't have a plan with almost all

the free regions with all their ceos . having a community plan is just a problem. how much they implement the plan on the ground is the next issue, whether or not the ceo

you are sitting in a place where there is a population structure of several hundreds of thousands of people. i will not criticize you at all if you say, sir, that my community plan should be based on an urban basis. i say there is no problem. you should plan the community . thousand. he took someone and placed him in the context of the free zone. he placed him in the free zone . you should also come and say, sir , that the plan of my community should be included in the urban plan. the society that is characteristic of the azadi region does not have a business development plan and practically i don't know on what basis this free zone should be developed. find out, like the free zones of other countries in the world, in turkey, in the uae, in china , that the duty of each free zone is specific, it knows on

what plan and on what business it should be developed . the free zones of the world, maybe you didn't do the detailed study that you should have done, it's not your fault. this is the first point about the community plan . about the zeris plan. free trade zone and commercial and industrial free zone should be written in it a plan based on business development and on the basis

of commercial and industrial vision, the plan of free zone society, especially arvand region, should be based on urban planning, that is, if i go to a certain city, i should say mr. so-and-so your company come and write the plan of this community plan for me . they will put the same community plan in front of me who is writing the community plan for the free zone, so the difference is their free zone. if it is going to be in the free zone, the urban planning community plan should be written as well if the investor is not clear, we don't know what kind of investment will enter the free zone, so why should the investor come to the free zone , why shouldn't he go to the mainland and sit down and do his work ? this is my first point

about not leaving the free zones in the country properly. it's enough that we have come to the free zone. i say to you , sir, your government made a mistake when you said that you should come and import from the free zone . you should come from here. earn money for yourself, go develop the infrastructure, give the government as long as the infrastructure they did not create the necessary facilities for the establishment of the free zone , in fact they should not establish a free zone. infrastructure is possible, it should definitely take 10 years for only the infrastructure of the region to be established , but after 30 years, it still hasn't happened, mr. khazaei. well, in the name of god, mr. karimi , don't give us a reason why the community-approved plan for urban development was a mistake that i said. their service is because the infrastructure is the same plan

of the business community that you have, this is another bachelor's degree, the infrastructure is the tuition plan of the region now. freedom that, for example, we in the new free zones model , for example, their community plan, the population structure tuition model, have you ever read a plan, see the single plan of the authors of the plan , i tell them, you didn't know until a few minutes ago that the community plans of the free zones were caused by the government. as long as the plan of the society is not the cause of the government , we are not allowed to go ahead. well, what is the plan of the society ? what is the plan of the society ? let us ask you a few questions to see what is inside the plan of the society. we welcome you, mr. khazaei please, i want to see the same community plan that

you read. he explained the geography of that free zone, then he was supposed to discuss the economic situation of that free zone, so your information is incomplete . well, i write this in the society , and you can't put a hat on my head anymore. let me do the market study. let me explain. this means that you should know what uses are on the land . once these uses are determined, you can plan on them. mr. karimi, they don't know that the free zones are now in each of their sections they have a business plan, they have an industrial society plan , they have an environmental society

plan, i am telling you to summon my friends, mr. karimi, i am telling you that just a few weeks ago in the government , in the name of god, i don't remember that the government approved that for the environmental permits of azadi areas whose community plan was approved , they can get the same environmental permit, so there is an environmental community plan, there is a tourism community plan , there is an industrial community plan, this is wrong information , this is very clear information, yes. i wanted to say something to you, we are famous in khuzestan with warm hospitality, we invite all friends to visit mr. karimi in beautiful khuzestan, and i am at your service to see them closely, their information will be raised in the community and a business plan, and they will see the plans. they also see what plans we have , and see if it is at all characteristic of asking the investor's duty here