tv [untitled] February 7, 2024 3:30pm-4:00pm IRST
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isfahan has infrastructure, whatever you bring water to isfahan, people will come to it because it has a hospital , it has roads, it has entertainment centers, that is, isfahan, today, if four million people reach the pipeline and advertise and open it, god willing, tear the flag and the so-called ribbon, the crowd will flock to it . isfahan thinks that the problem is solved, while the unsolved problem of isfahan is 5 million, 4 million will reach 10 million. he says 10 million, i brought 2 lines, mr. esadi will bring us two more lines , then it will be four lines, very well, we who are from qom, now i heard that he wants a line. bring the water pipe, semanano, i am sure that they are looking for the water pipeline, well, look, tehran, tehran 100 , will look for the water pipeline, it is not like this that tehran says, i don't have water, the pipeline line, why, because you are using this theory that because there is a lack of water, we have to bring water no, the central plateau has a large population.
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the loading of these factories is too much. instead of bringing water to mubarake steel , you should take mubarake steel. now your question says, mr. mousavi , we should take mubarake steel. why should we take mubarake steel? thank you . i will answer this in the next part. yes, sir, before we go to mr asadi and their answers , i invite my colleagues to prepare another report . what do you think about transferring the water of the seas and oceans to these cities, which are now short of water, well, this was supposed to happen many years ago, well, why didn't it happen now, do you agree, disagree, 100 agree ? everything comes when the water is in the region, everything comes, tourism comes, industry comes, agriculture comes, medium and high , they say that the water they purify is 6 times more sour , it costs more, so do you agree?
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if it is against it, it is fine, but when the cost is more, well, anyway, it will harm the society 's budget, it will affect the social budget , it will affect the parliament's budget. we don't have water, our country is hot and dry, when we don't have water, and we have done all this, 70% of our water is evaporating, so we have to do something else , so i agree with aberson's plan. i don't agree because they can't, why can't they bring water if they brought it they have been bringing it for so many years , it is great if it is done, it means both for drinking and for the industry . if it is done, it means you agree with this plan
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. yes, yes. take them to the seaside, i don't know about it, but the first thing you said, i completely agree with it, it's not good, i don't think it's good , let's deal with it. sir, the amount of water that comes here is less than the environmental ecosystem there i think these are aquatic. it has an effect. well, usually the promises they make are not true. in the end, somehow, it doesn't work out. it 's the opposite of the promise. if the degree is very good, it's fine. i 'm not an expert myself, but the good experts who are very rare in this matter can make a maneuver, as the saying goes. and a body-wide research is good, which means against this sterilization in terms of ecosmetically and so on. yes. well
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, we saw and heard people's opinions together, mr. esadi , how much you emphasize with your statements that attraction is created, again now there are 50 million people who say that it will be more, how much do you agree with this? because i am surprised that you, as a water expert , see that the central and eastern plateau of the country is moving towards the dry land, that is, no matter how much we save in the water sector , it is actually under so much pressure that the water resources the underground facilities that you mentioned, in fact , your orders are under threat . see, our industry is not our target. only now, the stones that you mentioned, for example , require 16 million cubic meters of water per year, or other industries that are active now. juan, in fact , it is this water, not the transfer of this water, see our economy
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it should move from the oil side to the mining side, we must go to the mining side with this mining potential that we are in the plateau. we have central and by the way east of iran, you see, god has not gathered all his blessings in one place, we can activate these mines by transferring water and instead of pushing the population towards the sea, we can stabilize the population, especially for the east of the country, you cannot force the people say , leave your house, go to the water, take the mine to the water, all these mines that can have infrastructure , my infrastructure is water, that means you can't live without water. a lot of cases of butterflies in fact the exploration and exploitation of the civil industry is stopped due to the lack of water, go and see how much potential can be created for the infrastructure of the mines
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. do not appoint him, governments at all, this is the demand of the supreme leader. yes, and i said late that it started at the end of the 10th government, in the 11th and 12th governments, it progressed very slowly and reached the end, that is, the first line of 99, but the end of the government , in fact, mr. rouhani, who actually brought up these things well, mr. raisi, wherever you go on a provincial trip, i see the first problem of your water supply is khorasan razavi, south khorasan, sisistan , baluchistan, kermangar itself. you cannot deny this by saying that there is no water, we must conserve water, there is no water, there is little water, and we must think of a solution, the experience that the arab countries of the persian gulf have now, now you, the miniature countries of the persian gulf, now have 26
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million cubic meters per day. it desalinates water up to 38 million cubic meters per day and is investing. and know their country now the air temperature in that region has even changed, the agriculture that is happening is not only for the city, wheat is now self-sufficient, saudi arabia is exporting olives. he is running away from the east of the country, these social harms that are caused, we did this with the aim of civilized industry, but now mr. raisi's government has come to the conclusion that it is really a very good thing, he emphasized. that these plans don't stop, these plans that, in fact , the second half of 1400, is the key to start their implementation the sea water transfer headquarters was formed due to the importance of this plan, chaired by mr. mokhbar and four of the ministers, and to be fair, both the ministry and the ministry of energy
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had a very good relationship, and even now that mr. aliabadi is fiercely defending this plan is supporting these plans of yours , something that is not actually logical or economical , we industries will never go after it , that is, the industries have come to the conclusion that in order to be able to activate their own mines and their own factories and to however, population migration has not happened from these areas, in fact, i promise a change for it the east of the country, especially the central plains, that this population, which has actually migrated, will return to their own cities and become their own pride and creation. the construction of mine water should be activated and what we want to do is actually preserve the civilization that we have in that area , god willing, mr. mousavi , what is your opinion about the cost of water in these areas , do you think it is used for industry or not? and if you're sorry, please ask
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mr. asadi to give your answer, you got your answer, not my answer , that he didn't give, anyway, they are saying the words of the supreme leader, but the supreme leader's words i am thinking the same thing. last month, two months ago, they said on the shores of mokran that your economic growth should be twice that of the central regions of iran. now you see, i think the budget plan announced our economic growth for the year. i think it announced 8%, which means 16%. we must have growth, what does that mean , i don't know, a petrochemical is now active, for example, next to chaabqar and two so-called donas. i say this is the economic growth, no, it is not. we have 70 thousand square kilometers on the coast of mokran, mr. bozor , mr. asadi, we have land there, we have an area. we are next to the sea, we were expected that this is the same industry, for example
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, i gave the example of blessed steel . well, what is stopping us from thinking of taking the entire foulad mubarake, now he answers on the spot, well, foulad mubarake is taking its stone from the melo tent, well, the melo tent is 300 kilometers away , mr. mousavi, it is possible. he says that chadormelo to bandar is 900 km, it is 600 km. you added more kilometers. the answer is that the future is in your hand. golgohar, you can do whatever you want on golgohar. golgohar is 300 km away from chador al balu. it has no reserves . take seawater from golgohar. even golgohar can use sea water. work on golgohar . this is what we mean. it didn't happen to the hardware, unfortunately, the things that
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work, the hardware, immediately think of the implementation, your software work, the software work is to study, discuss, value engineering, discuss and check . i understand that chador melo has no future, golgohar everything else is different. sangan was built only for mining, not for smelting. these dear ones should know why you should work in a factory, why should you stand upright, why should you bite to open a steel factory, excuse me for a moment , mr. musa, i think his opinion is that we should move the entire population to the side of the clock of the entire country. you should see that the people should leave, go to the sea, no, look , we showed you this map, we said that this central plateau does not have the capacity for this load, this is my story, you take one billion, yes, 10 billion water to the opponent. you won't go here, it's so hot, dry and densely
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populated, and then it has so much attraction, for example, who said that isfahan is an industrial city, isfahan is a tourist city , you want to profit 2 billion dollars from mubarak steel, 2 billion dollars mr. bigor, install 2 million tourists, you are a city. mashhad should not be an industrial city, but mashhad is a pilgrimage city of 40 million. the population should come to 100 million. the population should come. the appearance of 100 million water does not want to remain for 3 days, but you know that mashhad has a drinking water problem now . mashhad's water supply, first of all , mashhad needs about 400 million cubic meters of water in the horizon of 1420. unfortunately, mashhad is caught in an indiscriminate agriculture and has 2 billion cubic meters. now , look at this map that i want to show you. this is a curve of moderate salinity. it
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is constantly rising, which means that due to the withdrawal of too much water, our wells are falling into a situation where agriculture is not economically viable. in a few years, when this trend started, 146, if i have a well, i will come. i suggest that you come and give me 5 million for the well. i will give it to you because it is not worth having the same point, you will come later, let me tell you that mashhad's service will be solved by converting some agricultural tea into drinkable tea. the problem of mashhad is not supply. bring water from the sea, bring water from a thousand mosques, bring water from here, bring water from there, bring water from here.
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the population is not the same in the country, yes, now you have agriculture in sistan baluchistan, which was once the warehouse of iran's peak, now we make an exception , we said sistan at all, we agree , the same thing happened to south khorasan. do the same thing in south khorasan. let me tell you. south khorasan's agriculture now consumes 700 million cubic meters of water. very well, what are you using it for ? let's do it . let's shut down the pressure. no, we didn't say, we're saying how much water do you want in south khorasan? this new map of south khorasan wants 5 million cubic meters for the mine .
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that is, you should go and see how much the village was deserted. water for agriculture, agriculture, which has actually decreased, so let's solve the problem with 50 million, you want to take 50 million there in south khorasan , the water use culture contract should be reformed, the culture should be modified with these methods, people will die of thirst and the industry will actually be destroyed, it will not
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happen. if he knows that the price of the water he is using is worth more than this , he will go towards saving, if not you, even if you say saving, let us save in agriculture , no farmer is willing, give the water to the industry, give it to us. we did this, we came to sangan and told you to save water we are going for our own industry, the farmer came and agreed, then he said no, i want to increase the underground level, which means you can't get involved with the people, this well is his own, and in the end , he has to decide what can create competition for water. the real price of water is not our price, like all our things, because we are not legislators, not everything is determined by the economy. you are right , but the whole economy means both water and gasoline, the price of which is now lower than water. you should have a lower price
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. asadi, this is now in the framework. it's not our business, we don't have any price at all, no, i'm talking about water only you, if without a farmer, the price of water, you will never be able to even save money in agriculture , it increases the level of cleverness. sir, it is possible for someone to give a well, for example, a well can have 20 partners , he said it is perfect. it is possible. it means that what you are saying is not official . i am sorry. i spoke with our official authorities. i spoke with someone who has the underground water resources of mashhad in his hand . i said, "is it possible for sangan?" i know that there are several kings in the zozan plain that can , of course, a little bit of salt doesn't hurt anything
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, so he can take that water and drink it, and the same zozan that you say can make salty water there. we put the water aside, we just came and stuck to the sea, this is not the case. look, if this plan is implemented , the culture of the east of the country, in the discussion of using the whole country , water should be used, and water quality should be listed on the stock market. the people themselves should own shares of water, if the economy of this plan is actually justified. listen, people, how much can you save on the price of water? this can also be done by agriculture. in fact, you are correct in your words, but for now, the water meter a cube of 1000 tomans is 500 tomans. no, you should see that everything should be offered at its true value. we
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think it should be . the consumption will be less because the economy of the plan will be preserved, god willing, and it can be done. for the finished price, fresh water is about 70 cents or 78 cents. at the end of the line we have now, it is about four euros to mashhad , and it is about three and a half euros to sangan. this is how it is. in fact, for sanaya, do you have currency for sanaya ? yes, for sanaya, no . tell me how much you would pay for mashhad. can there is a solution, if the water transfer is not economical, it should be made economical. with the development of the drinking activity, how much will it cost to drink it? the agreement we have with the ministry of energy at the price of desalination should
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be done in exchange for the mines that can be provided to this industry and the mines. which will be available to the shareholders of this plan , with the development of these mines, it will actually encourage investment. with two goals, how much money , with two goals, about 70 cents more? we have a different transfer fee with east investment we can follow the methods that the government is following now , how much? well, everything should be offered at the price of industrial water . you can see the price in bushehr or coastal cities. well, it is the government's duty to give water to the people anyway. in bushehr, as you said, 70 a cent
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or 60 cents is involved in the production of fresh water. the government pays the desalination company, for example, 30,000 tomans per cubic meter , if it is 10 million cubic meters, for example, in bushar, then how much does it give to the people, for example, 500 tomans, so we are doing this, we are giving this. it can be about 300 billion, that is, for the current situation, for example , we have busher, he gives 300 billion from the government's pocket, now in total the one who came in the budget bill said that to guarantee the purchase of water in kenna's desalinated water, it is worth 2000 billion. now suppose that minus their talk that the government is now saying that it is possible for the government to give a series of shares in chadorramul and where did i hear this? apparently, i heard this. in mashhad, our water is 4 euros or 5 euros. because this is a private company, the invasco company says that i spent my water money, you should pay me, i have no business being in the government or non-government, if
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we deliver 100 million of water to mashhad and the cubic meter is 300,000 tomans, it will cost us 30,000 billion tomans, that is, in government industrial budget the representative who is in tabriz, the representative who is in ahvaz, the representative who is in shiraz. he has to sign that 30,000 billion tomans , i put money to guarantee the purchase of gillnets, for example, this has not been done, this has not been done, unless the government says that the shares of the factory of chaadermelo and golgohar are given, for example, 10%, or that the development fund is a money grant that this contradicts with the philosophy that gentlemen and he had come to their goals, we are the company.
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in fact, the policies of the system of using the fund for the private sector of these companies are completely private now, part of my shares are equity shares and the government is actually involved, mr. musaei , i really don't know why you don't realize that our country is moving towards prosperity. we had serious opponents like you, the previous government , mr. ardakanian was also against, mr. khamsi was also against, all of them are against, but
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you cannot deny that we have water, we are adding water, you are actually a plateau. these plans should be implemented in the central and eastern parts of the country with the aim of creating the infrastructure to stabilize the population , it means the security that it creates, you cannot know the security, that is, apart from this issue , separate the social issues, but our goal is the economic goal, next to it, next to it, mr. next to it,
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there is industry. now, the ministry of energy is much more enthusiastic than before . the minister of energy himself is following up on this project. the ministry is more serious than in the past . i think that the installation of these projects will be an honor for the government. thirteenth, since the beginning of these plans, the implementation of the efficiency that now we are laying two tenths of a kilometer of piping per day. in fact , we don't have this efficiency anywhere in the country. isfahan started last year. at the end of this year, water will go to isfahan for 520 kilometers within a year. as a water specialist, you know the volume of operations. executive , how is sistan baluchistan itself? now, we have the potential of laying two tenths of kilometers of pipes every day , unfortunately, one kilometer, actually one kilometer of pipes is being transferred now, but we are
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increasing this efficiency, we in sistan. we are sweetening the well 70 km from zahedan , the first phase will soon be completed healthy, 100,000 meters of fresh water, the security command, by the way, this is an anti-security plan, that is , a pipe laying, a road has been built , a road has been built, and these cars, which are smuggled anyway, will have to be protected by the military forces later. build a road, because anyway, it is from a region that can reach itself. the next thing about yazd is saying yazd now. 7.
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there are 2 ceramic factories, if you take water, 70 because there are my materials there and my export is 70 ceramic water factory, 70 will be 170 to 170, it will be 370. see, we say, don't encourage, we say. whatever it is, 170 people are very beneficial to us . well, your population is jobless, so how do you want to create it? see, you are against development, not the employment of industry is 10 times that of agriculture. % agriculture creates employment which is infinite, we did not say that this is our goal, there is another industry with water transfer for industry , this is happening for my big industry , it is affordable, it is economical, some industries are also
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not affordable, we have to make it economical, you have to you used to provide water for you didn't create the same industry. now mobarake foolad , mr. esdi, mobarake foolad wants 16 million water. yes, he doesn't want more. no , what's going on? we'll take 200 million for him. see if he wants to develop more. who said mobarake foolad should develop more? the million is with karkhon, we don't go for mubarake steel only, no, so who are we going for?
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