tv [untitled] February 12, 2024 3:00pm-3:30pm IRST
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in the name of god , greetings, politeness, respect, service to you, each and every one of you, dear and respected viewers, especially for the higher election program, we are at your service with another debate. the leader of the revolution, in his recent meetings , called the real competition one of the important pillars of the election, which means that the field is for the presence of the views of different political, economic and cultural issues should be open so that everyone can. with these different points of view , they can form a real competition and an active presence in the election field to have one of the issues that different experts disagree on is whether or not we should import buses for public transportation. obviously, the two spectrums that agree and disagree know the reason for their opposition in the fact that if we import buses for our public transportation in a situation where, according to them
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, the domestic producer can meet the domestic needs , there is no need for us to import buses. basically, this import harms the domestic production of the country , on the other side, for public transport, for example , an institution like a municipality, says that the production domestic suppliers cannot meet the city's public transportation needs, so we need imports to cover the public transportation deficit. let's do more details of the introduction that i have presented to you. stay with us in the above debate until the end here in our studio. mr. alizadeh, the head of the tehran homeh bus company , is present as a supporter of importing buses for public transportation . mr. hosseini, the ceo of one of the companies, is also present. after-sales service providers
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of bus manufacturing companies are present here, and naturally , they are opposed to the import of buses for transportation. general but before we start the discussion with the guests of the program, i invite you to see the report prepared by my colleagues in the industry group. we will come back and start the debate . every day this is our situation. it can be filled with kip taki. the deputy director of transportation and traffic of tehran municipality says that 7 thousand buses are needed for public transportation in the capital city, and what is active and working in the area is about 205 buses . it has the capacity to produce the necessary infrastructure for the annual production of 3,000 units of diesel in iran is provided for the production of diesel buses.
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1000 electric buses are active in this sector, 10 bus manufacturing companies are active , since the winter of last year until today, tehran municipality has signed contracts with domestic manufacturers of 3000 buses and vans, it says it has the capacity to produce them, but the municipality does not know about it. roud , we have no request from tehran municipality , we have offered them two or three contracts . the municipality says that it has signed a contract with some domestic manufacturers to provide electric buses , but the ability to compete in price and production volume. they didn't have a contract with us, such that they give us two cars in the first year, or amad khodro, which gives us 500 cars.
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he has signed a contract with domestic manufacturers and is going to import some 200. we should buy electric buses from china , the initial understandings have been completed and we are going in that direction. fayez shabani of sed and sima news agency. yes , we have seen the report of my colleague mrs.
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shahrani . you want us to import for public transportation . a topic that was raised recently a rumor was also spread in the media about the importation of buses, and these are the things that i am concerned about . ... 500 buses were contracted with domestic manufacturers and 2,500 were contracted with the chinese, who recently mr. zakani visited china and
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closed the first priority for domestic production. the purchase was not so much, that is, in the previous period of urban management. about 250 buses were purchased , of which 130 were minibuses, and 130 to 120 were buses, which were purchased from iran khodro group. currently, we have purchased 304 of these 304 vehicles. we signed a contract for 500 units due to the non-implementation of the contract and the lack of capacity of the private sector , which is domestically produced, so we are now at 1011. in fact, there are no buses and we have not delivered nearly 7000 billion tomans, of which 500 are actually the season.
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we did it, and it turned out to be 2,500 the amounts that we paid in the three financial models that i am presenting are for the dear producers. our problem in the field of transportation is that our people cannot wait two or three years for a bus that is produced by domestic manufacturers to arrive in two years, three years, four years, for example, 200 to 300 to 500 to 1,000. the main reason that mr. dr. zakani. in fact, the contract with the chinese is that within 3 to 6 months after the initial payment, 2,500 yoho vehicles will enter the country. well, it is a revolution, a change in the field of public transportation in the field of buses. therefore, we
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we have done our actions in the domestic sphere , we have signed a contract, our contract is clear, my closing time is clear, i am with you, we cannot delay the people, which means that instead of tehran, people are waiting in the bus stations between half an hour and 45 minutes in the bus stations. we need a revolutionary jihadi action that
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we can make a change in the field of transportation by buying from inside and outside . i am referring to alizadeh. greetings i have the courtesy and respect to serve you as iran khodro. diesel, as the country's largest producer of commercial vehicles in the region, anyway , has the capacity to produce diesel buses as well as electric buses in the number and circulation of 5,000 units, which can be operated annually . we are a company in this direction. iran khodro diesel, according to the available circulation and the demand that
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we have in tehran metropolis and other cities , we hired 2800 new people, we equipped our lines, so this capacity is now in iran khodro diesel and naturally in other cities. domestic car manufacturers are also ready. i think that if we sit together and form a national agreement, we can meet all the needs of tehran municipality within one or two years. this is the point that mr. alizadeh mentioned that some companies domestic companies cannot fulfill their obligations on time, so you do not accept the termination of contracts with a number of companies, or the use of half of the products in their shopping basket, domestic and half of foreign products . we acted according to the contract. in 1400, a number of buses were contracted with us
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in the same year, the honorable mayor of tehran came and now my file is in the media . this means that iran khordiz has this potential and of course, if the domestic companies provide them with the necessary width , the supply chain that is provided will certainly be realized and they will be able to make the production part of their production available to the society. take action and meet the country's needs , mr. alizadeh, let me explain. yes, see. that mr dear hosseini, they say that every year we have a thousand , yes, we do not deny it at all
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, but you see, we have more than 1,300,400 municipalities in the country, and they have a fleet. iran khodro diesel company should cover these 1,300,400 units. well, of course, a place like tehran's metropolitan city needs at least 9,000 units. for the city of tehran, where there is a shortage , the existing 1,000 units will not provide the necessary units, except for iran. diesel cars of other manufacturers don't offer these accessories either what is the reason, the main reason is that the production line of our friends has been dormant for more than 10 years, maybe the forgiveness will return to our loved ones, not only iran khodro diesel and other companies that we are dealing with. he was looking into the field of urban management
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, now the field of urban management is to actually transform the bus fleet or the field of transportation. in fact, the municipality has been assigned to the transportation complex, well, only because during mr. hossein's time. we accept this point that because that your production line has been inactive for years , i agree with you that yes, in the 90s, that is, for almost 7 or 8 years, because of the problems that existed in the city management, there was no demand for bus manufacturers, so we did not have customers and did not produce, but thank god well, in the current government, given that the approaches are towards support. there was a demand for domestic production. automobile manufacturers
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started production in 2018 and now that we are at your service, we have delivered 1,903 buses to the country's urban transport fleet. in general, how much production capacity do domestic manufacturers have? they have because now they said that they need 10 thousand and we have 3 thousand, which means 700. there is this capacity, there is capacity in the country, if the government that is really supporting us all join hands , we can certainly meet the current needs of the society in two or three years, those needs or the situation that existed in the past eight years. this dispossession was created. let's cover the country , let's make a plan, let's make a target, let's plan for two years, three years . the car manufacturers should all work together to solve the problems that exist in terms of land supply
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. surely, we can meet these needs. brought out let's do it and we will definitely want the same thing. this is actually the weakness that we have created in these 10 years for domestic production, because i myself personally have the facts and supervision that i have in the lines. i stood at the bus station for 45 minutes to 40 minutes . well, the reason is that our transportation fleet is weak , the reason is that our areas have not been renovated , so this sense of obligation that was felt in the city management group was that we should be under the rock in any way possible. should we bring a bus or whether it be domestic or foreign production
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to cover the 10-year gap, we have no choice but to do so. i would like to make a report. this is a sign of support for domestic production . it is a sign of this debate, which has become a controversy recently, and mr. dr. zakani correctly pointed out that domestic production cannot. this is actually our issue. solve and provide, well, if we didn't go to iran khodro, that means our claim in the field of urban management was that we went to you, sir , you couldn't have done more than this.
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that they don't buy now, anyway, our voice is that considering that the supply and production of buses has its own special conditions, now the circulation that is considered let's sit together in a friendly manner and that capacity and needs assessments should be announced for all car manufacturers in the old days in the 80s, such an incident happened in the mayor's organization. the country fell . the head of the khudrus organization gathered all the khudruss organizations . advance payments were given and the buses were delivered during those schedules. now with a delay of one or two months, but they were delivered in the 80s. in the late
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80s, let me explain this point that mr. hosseini says, you should see mr. zakani as soon as you manage. interpreting 171,400 to seat 175 buses, stop using this vehicle yes, 175 devices, out of these 175 devices , you are offered to hand over 70 of them to us. yes , from this 170 to 56. now, due to the differences between the cash and non-cash models, our 500 billion is more than approx. we paid more than 500 billion in cash. the rest of iran khodro was owned by us, and now my friends in the media explained in a different way that my owner actually had a meeting, the meeting was held, it was handed over to them , it was handed over to you, and they did not accept this point that mr. hosseini time in the 90s with the organization
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the municipalities held a meeting , that's what i did . we did that. what was our financial model 3. what was our financial model? 25 cash, 25 non-cash, 50% of education. well , all these companies that i mentioned are accepted, except for iran khodro, which has the official letter of mr. tousli mehr . they both came to my office and announced in writing. criticism is just working, which means that i have written a letter to present to my friends not accepting the issue, if i had accepted it , i would have closed a thousand bags like the rest of us, as many as i could. we closed 500 with sna , we closed 500 with parsiyan motor, we closed 500 with mapna , it is with your service, which model, with each, with all, one model
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, that is, 25% cash, 25 non-cash, which becomes property, 50% of my education, what are the conditions even now i will explain this step by step, that is , we have achieved all the circulations that you have closed. look at this point . they have close to 3000, which were not closed even after 5-6 months. so we canceled it, that is, we first reached out to production. inside, we said, sir, enough god, let's go ahead with this number for the time being, around 300, with 25%, which cannot be produced. those russian cars that came out of necessity , we finally went ahead . accept the 25th point. what is the main point? 25% of the cash that we put , 50% of the education see the country's banks too. why don't you deliver the manufacturer's friends? because they know that they don't have the capacity, we just came and set up a new mechanism, we said, sir, 50% of the education, we will go to you
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ourselves , we will arrange the education for you. the only company that did not accept was iran itself and diesel . yes, because iran itself and diesel is one of the most profitable companies in the current iranian automobile industry , it has no problems with banks, it has no debt. iran has no accumulated losses. so, the type of business model that should be done. it must be right in my opinion. well, for sure, when car manufacturers take 25%, they cannot do their value chain properly, that sale or that deal or that contract. iran itself and diesel can't be done right . he knows this, he has his experience , he has his lessons, he is the biggest producer, for sure with this well, of course, the property will be bought
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and sold, it has its own conditions, education , and also you had a contract that recently had a bit of a fuss. in my opinion, this story was a bit exaggerated. we will sit down with the municipality and solve this problem. the problem is that you have not received your money yet. we will solve it now . we will solve the problem. very well , what is the model of your contract with those 2,500 who are foreigners? it is not 25. no, this model is completely the innovative model of mr. dr. zakanieh, who negotiated with the chinese to reach an agreement. in this model, we give 20% in cash, 80 % is the ideal finance that mr. hosseini says, yes , they take cash, they take cash, we will give, well, no, we also
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accept finance, what is it ? the municipality has come to work , it is using all its capacity to serve you , so that it can get this liquidity, what if it contracts with you and domestic producers with the model that the municipality has contracted with foreigners. you would have accepted, most likely, i am the type , now i don't know what their contract is, because i am telling you, look at this model that we defined , it is impossible for the domestic manufacturer to assemble it , why look at the device that we have now. this year, we signed a contract for 2,500 devices . each device costs us about 7 billion . the money we are paying means that if i
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do not sign this contract this year, or if i signed this contract two years ago, this number will be lower. it will cost around 45 tomans, but it will be offered to you in 1400, at the end of 14 400 it was early 1401, i think 40 machines. i bought a bus from aqab, each device cost me approximately 5 billion, but two, three , four months later, each device cost approximately 7 billion . this is the model that mr. dr. zakani concluded with the chinese. 20 percent of the commitment of the chinese is this 20 percent of the cost. take it and deliver 2,500 devices within 6 months. this is a lot. i say 100 devices should be delivered within 6 months. we signed the contract with these 45 companies that we signed with the same model that we signed, and now i am at your service. until the end of september
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it is the future. let it be 2,500 with this three models that we mentioned, if this finance is 20 % cash and 80% is 5-year finance, and it will be repaid in real terms, and i will inform you that the profit is below 5. below 5%, none of the manufacturers can actually sign this contract with us and if they can actually deliver the buses to us, then time is very important for us. time is very important for us. we will be able to bring the bus to the service next year and let people touch it. now let me tell you that we signed a contract with the domestic manufacturer the bus doesn't come to the street floor, well, it doesn't hurt. this is an essential need of the city of tehran. mr. hosseini says that you can't fulfill your obligations in time. we, you , as one of the days, yes, we now own iran and
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diesel. which has been concluded, it has been fulfilled , certainly if a new contract is signed with iran itself and diesel, especially considering the precedent of tehran municipality and iran diesel group, in my opinion, we , that is, in iran khodro diesel group, can make this promise that the circulation that we promise to deliver, of course, other car manufacturers also to tab they are trying to fulfill the commitment they give to tehran municipality, but we have to discuss the type of contract, we have a problem with mutual understanding , that is, for example, yes, because you say no, we are not looking for criticism. you said that 50% or more will be financed. they do 80 financing, financing means in china the government
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is supporting or there is a private sector. let's find it. in any case, i have a point let me say that now our type is a national debate. we also have our own diesel in iran and our supply chain value chain is complete. now the most modern engine in the world, which is a benz engine, is produced in idem . there are thousands of people working in idem group, which is a gearbox manufacturer. it is a major manufacturer, and it also produces parts of khavar gardan, the company's cooler.
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i can't tell you about the ventilation and we have 2112 companies that are active in our supply chain network. anyway, all of them according to this boom that happened in the government of mr. raisi and according to the orders of the supreme leader, everyone has come to work so that jihadis can meet the needs of the country. saying the benz engine. i would like to inform you that in the two companies that are giving us buses now, the quality is very different, that is, we, please, the issue of the people is important to us, the issue of the people is important to us. i would like to ask you to see that hazrat agha has said many times in his field of service, the automobile industry, that
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the production is not good. the quality is not good, this people's dissatisfaction is a trick. now, look at the collection of cars the bus ride is the same for us, that is , the quality of the bus that we have in the area of this road is really not good for us. why am i saying this ? i am documenting this. out of these 414 vehicles that were contracted during the period of urban management, we have received approximately 50 d because of the poor quality of our buses, i.e. this set of domestic producers, not only iran khodro diesel , they say the rest of us have no problem, the after sales service is good in terms of the technical specifications that we closed, but iran khodro diesel, unfortunately, we have problems with its quality many times. we said, we said numerous correspondences with the environment with the organization.
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