to talk about the state of tourism in the country , we were supposed to be hosted by mr. shalbafian, the deputy tourism minister of the ministry of cultural heritage, who interrupted his appointment at 93 minutes and later with a special news interview and participation in this program , and the director general of tourism development of the ministry introducing the house to us, i hope that they have come to our program with full preparation. in tonight's program, we are going to talk about different topics. as i mentioned, mr. fatemi, the general director of domestic tourism development of the ministry of cultural heritage , is our guest in the studio. with vahid reza parhishkar, the correspondent of the macroeconomic desk of sed and cima news agency, during the conversation, regarding the tourism issue. pilgrimage and health tourism

will be added to our group . thank you very much for your company, dear compatriots, mr. fatemi. i greet you. you are very welcome . i hope that our tourism sector will not make decisions like changing your introduced guest. i greet you and all our good viewers. i hope that in any case, the enthusiasm and enthusiasm that

arose due to this exhibition and the presence of the honorable president at the opening of the exhibition will be provided to the whole society and we will have a new spirit. mr. persgahi , welcome, in the name of god. rahman al-rahim, greetings and respect, i am at your service. very well, we want to talk about pilgrimage tourism. what are the numbers and figures of pilgrimage tourism in our country now, and what plans have been made? the president stressed a lot about it in the conference today. and talk well, quite a lot of for their trips, our people include the topic of pilgrimage in their travel plans. we devote a large part of our trips to the province of khorasan razavi, which is quite evident, along with qom and fars provinces. anyway , there are three important pilgrimage centers of the country.

it is not very possible to separate pilgrimage from tourism because both happen together or happen together. it is almost impossible in our country to separate a trip that has zero pilgrimage or zero tourism. we believe that traveling to

pilgrimage alone is a lot of pilgrimages it is happening, there is also tourism, what did you do with the same approach that you are referring to in order to be responsible for these increases? you see, in our country , we need many infrastructures in terms of travel , some of them are in the field of transportation, and some of them are in the field of accommodation. the travel that exists, many of the infrastructures that exist in our country are insufficient , as in the speech of my president this morning , one of the main needs of our transportation travel was discussed. transportation, whether by air, rail or land , we are facing obstacles and problems, which is a basic prerequisite for travel in the field of accommodation , especially with the different price ranges that must

exist, with shortages in different places. our country is facing a coma, but also the type of our trips. travel is happening and a volume of travel is happening in a limited peak. the same past declines that we had in february and the high volume of travel happened in the southern provinces of the country and in the northern provinces of the country. we were facing serious shortages, we say shortage and now you are also pointing you mentioned the inadequacy of the infrastructure and the needs that we have for hotels. now we have one main center called the matching of seats and beds, which means that we should have the possibility of transportation as much as we have the accommodation beds in one place anyway. may these two be available for them, together with everyone who

will be accountable. we are facing serious deficiencies in various areas that we must solve so that we can have a peaceful trip . i greet you mr. khushgu. have a good time. the needs of the tourism field of our pilgrimage now what are the rhythms so that these needs and these infrastructures match and have harmony? how is it going now

? we have this disproportion and every year the needs are increasing and the plans are moving slowly according to the experts of the country's tourism activists. why? you see, planning is not slow, we now know what our plans are for our needs in different parts of the country . in different places, why are we again announcing that our needs, planning, and infrastructure are not appropriate? for example, the country's transportation sector is facing problems related to now. no, it has faced many problems in different years and this will have a direct impact on the trip. you can assume, for example, a destination like kish, where most of the pilgrimages are not different. for example, you

want to travel to mashhad. it means that it was not enough, which means that we cannot provide it for everyone, even though it was ordered by the president. it was decided that the routes rail should increase in the number of trains that were supposed to be there, but in the field of transportation and the ministry of roads and urban development, in the field of the ministry of tourism, what is wrong with us now, if we want to talk , it is better that they tell us from the outside what our shortcomings are . we have the pathology , we must also see that there is a shortcoming, you see, one of the serious issues we have is the number of accommodation complexes that are operating in an unauthorized way, in the form of guest houses or guest houses . but this is one of our serious challenges when

it comes to organizing tours like this it is being held right here, you mentioned the passenger , mr. farazkari, they are going to enter the field of licenses and the discussion of licenses now. the issue of the passenger house and the problems that the ministry of tourism is raising in the meantime is also being followed up . the type of license and i think about 8,400 licenses were issued based on registration and the conditions were very simple . tourism did not go to the satisfaction of the applicants and give permits in a certain period of time

. why are the permits issued in the ministry of cultural heritage with no requests ? the process had to go through . that a large amount of guest houses, which were applicants and came without our supervision, found a problem . we can see that the guest houses are a very good accommodation complex and you could be in the same place in the first section that you could supervise. give permission mr. prizkari, you should log in within a certain period of time. it was the problem of ms. mustafa that she was not connected to the port at all, which means it was a step before she wanted to be checked at all. and the gate itself started to issue it. the law said that any permit that is not connected or

damaged, the gate itself is obliged to issue the permit . they were operating in the market. finally , it became clear that there are a series of people operating in this market , and now their names have been taken away. my supervision, now what we say is legal , the law did not say that supervision should not be done, it said that supervision is done retrospectively, which means that a permit is issued after that , the ministry of heritage enters here, and if there is a violation, all this is the responsibility of the ministry. it is a heritage and it should take care of them, and now the issue of my passenger house , recently, its registration, now what they told us has stopped, and it is being issued in the same way as the friends of the ministry of heritage are saying in the same way, the issue here is the issuance statistics.

the licenses of the ministry of heritage that we check are approx about 22 passenger houses, we have to close the case, now they have a series of problems, which means 8,400 people, what is the problem, through the portal of obtaining a permit from the ministry of heritage , they say that i do not accept power, and now we have reported it ourselves, which means for us. in this messenger, he says that i got this permit, then they are locking me in my house, in this house of my traveler , because we do not accept permits. before, according to the law, now there is a problem, mr. fatemi, you see, we are dealing with the guest house of these people who are operating we accept kanan, by the way , we don't have a problem with those who are operating, but they should go through a legal process. they should get the permits, there should be a way to monitor it. see, if the people who are using it face a problem

, we should be able to monitor them, that is , we must have that monitoring, and the process that that term is necessary. they have to go through it so that they can get a license, sometimes this process may not have been completed and we inform them to go through this process. advance the structure in such a way that the speed of issuing

permits will increase. now the speeds have increased . you are closing the house of the traveler because he wants mr. khosh and they are behind our communication line. it was because it was issued in the form of registration and my supervision was retrospective, now it has changed that it is issued in the form of confirmation , the supervision is also retrospective and it probably made the procedure less difficult. in the country where the license is issued at first, we didn't know about many of these things in the provinces, then we realized that this number of guest houses is not supposed to be there. but they have to go through the process until their licenses are completed. mr. khashogu is behind our communication line

. i greet you again, mr. khashogu . what are the current state of our pilgrimage tourism, the infrastructure that must be provided, the challenges that are being raised? in the name of god. greetings, dear guests and all viewers. my voice now no problem? no, we receive your voice . let me say two or three sentences very quickly . look, when we say tourism , pilgrimage tourism is a part of religious tourism. i would like to point out that these namings that mr. fatemi said are purposeful based on the primary goal of someone who goes to mashhad, the primary goal of pilgrimage is enough , now pilgrimage tourism may also have tourism, so these are scientifically proven, and now the discussion is what kind of pilgrimage tourism we have now. it

seems that it is still traditional, if you remember the old days, caravans used to take people. or places another pilgrimage now, well , it's actually a bit more recent, but why are we when it's one month from now or the birthday of hazrat imam reza , peace be upon him, despite the fact that they work hand in hand, all the devices are still lagging behind those services that we should tell the visitors that this shows that we have a problem, as you have pointed out correctly in the sub-site . look, i have a comparison. i believe that you have pilgrimage and religious tourism in the vatican and many people go there, but everything is in place . relying on those traditional services

, organize this huge crowd. let me have a concern that was also in mr. fatemi's speech. you two are the same. look at the days. during the year, people don't even miss a day off. i said in class two or three months ago, i also said in this parliament that we should be very worried about nine days, two weeks off when two days are like this in two. three days ago, now two weeks, what should be done? pilgrimage is very important for our people, although they agree that the more difficult the pilgrimage is, the more acceptable it is, but we should not make ourselves comfortable like this. in mashhad, in qom itself, the ministry of heritage, for whom i thank you, is working hard for the loved ones, but these answers do not in any way solve the needs of pilgrims, tourists, or pilgrims in our country . very well, mr. khokhlo, stay with us, mr. fatemi

. that we have the pilgrimage provinces that we have, the backlogs of the past and the travel needs are increasing to the holy mashhad , we are trying to send the facilities to the holy mashhad, because now mr. khushko says that we are behind, that is, planning and forecasting yours is not correct, there are both, see each one two, what i am saying is that one part of it is in our infrastructures and the deficiencies we have, and in any case, the process that

should happen in increasing the number of infrastructures is one part. the other is about the culture of our country. we travel a lot , we travel by courier. we have had the same thing happen in the past few days in nowruz. we started at the travel service coordination headquarters , we created a room and a travel management center so that all devices are together at this time. we are monitoring what is happening in that center and based on that , we will transfer it to the relevant department . they are present in the same meeting and

they are planning to transfer these from other parts of the country to that province or think that we. in the discussion of, for example , the police, in the discussion of the emergency, in the discussion of the red crescent , we have many issues . we are saying hilal ahmad, this difference that exists causes some couriers to face problems in each of these issues, coordination can solve many problems. now the travel headquarters is complete. now point out that we are in trouble. we are in trouble. but you think that it can even save people's lives

. for successful and good deeds to be done. we are at our maximum capacity, we are at our maximum capacity , not all devices have the same features. they use it so that we can manage travel couriers. we are the same exhibition that. we know that this year coincides with the holy month of ramadan , nowruz is open like last year and the trips will start earlier because of the holy month of ramadan , we have to manage this volume of travel. that in a city we meet with the travel courier , we identify the complementary cities, the places where the possibility of settlement is possible, the goal that mr. khasqo and kamel said. in other cities , let's

have the travel management at the moment at that time, because we have long-term planning along with it. we are talking about pilgrimage tourism. we talked, let's see a report, come back, we want to talk about the issue of magus in the field of tourism , what are the problems and what has been done. an area in the heart of the desert, 150 km from tehran, with tourist attractions that hosts tourists in cold winter and hot summer weather. qom, a province that welcomes different tourists and pilgrims in different seasons and needs the development of tourism infrastructure. people who visit the province for religious tourists. and this is a god-given capacity of the blessed presence of hazrat masoumeh, may god bless him and grant him peace, but along with me, recreational and tourism facilities must exist.

come tourism capacities of qom province, a province that was previously known as a pilgrimage destination and of course a gateway for other trips. now it is developing with the presence of the private sector. introduces projects that have more than 25% advanced physical. to the banks to get note 18 and the tourism development fund here, after the operation, 300 people will have direct job creation here . according to the upstream laws, investors in the tourism sector are among the groups that receive government support. one of the policies of the ministry of tourism that we emphasized at the beginning of our work and we are doing this policy for the first time, we are allowed to start working with phasing and phasing, in fact

, there are many projects that when the first phase is put into operation , people will use it, that capital will not be lost the income they earn can start the rest of farsa . currently, we have 2080 tourism projects in progress. that the amount of investment in these projects is more than 360 thousand billion tomans, in the document of the transformation of the people's government , it is also mentioned to support the increase of tourism facilities, nasrin bekpour of sada news agency and simo, before we go to the issuing of permits, one point, now one of the most traveled and touristed provinces is the holy mashhad, mr. fizi , deputy director of astan quds razavi.

please explain the report of the pilgrims from the beginning of 1402 to the viewers of the special conversation . therefore, we still believe that the dear ones who visit mashhad with pride and pure intellect

are dear pilgrims who visit and travel to this region. of course, we will not mention the tour , but i am asking. the dear ones who visit the holy places in our country. they are looking for a park they return to karbala. they are looking for a tourist area in najaf . no, it was for pilgrimage. of course, this is not much of a discussion and there is room for discussion. i would like to share with you that in this government, fortunately , the supreme trade council has been established under the chairmanship of the president. the executive vice president is responsible for following up on the same points that his excellency and distinguished guests azad mentioned in the meeting. inaccuracy problems

are following these issues. so far, mr. fizi, how many problems and the number of meetings have been held ? is there time management? yes, we have three important and basic problems, that is, transportation, accommodation and requirements , that is, all visitors without exception are facing these three problems. we also have a difference in statistics with our dear ones. it means that a pilgrim can enter mashhad once, but it may be 10 times. therefore, we are in the field of what we witness, of course, our duty is mostly in the holy shrine, and fortunately, this

matter has been in recent years. they declare that they are right, but this figure for drinking in a year is more than 10 million, that is , in a situation like nowruz, we only have about 6 million extra for a week in mashhad. ashura, the night of milad, the middle of sha'ban, the nights of revival

, have many of these occasions. thank you very much, mr. fizi. thank you very much. in addition, the sound quality received from mr. fizi was not suitable. now , colleagues, they are amplifying it. if we have a chance , we will get in touch again. it is very short. 200 zars and about 200 pending permits in the tourism sector. tell us about the time it takes to issue each permit and about 2,200 permits are delayed in review. now, the discussion here was like this, it was all brought up that we have problems in the peak times, for example, in accommodation . solve the problems, now the statistics that are available according to the statistics of the national portal of permits are different from the issue of houses that used to be issued in the form of registration, now it is approval-oriented and

it is more difficult to get a permit. it takes time. i believe that what happened was a very good thing because we realized where our bottlenecks and problems are and we are correcting some of these things so that we can speed up our work especially in the city and in the provincial centers. let 's see the increase for the items you are correcting.