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? you are a football manager, we don't want any kind of treatment. we want to have a debate about whether to launch the currency exchange or not . obviously, there are two groups who agree and disagree on this issue . those who agree say that the possibility and the necessary infrastructure there is a currency exchange to run. it is possible to set up a currency exchange and a market that is known by international institutions and basically exists from the beginning . let's prevent and reduce currency fluctuations. opponents say that it is too early to start a currency exchange.

in general, in a market that has several prices, for example, we have 4 and 10 widths, we have 28 and 500 widths , we have the price of the exchange center, which is 39 tomans. new, they basically believe that the discovery of a new price and the price that they think is the real price will not be discovered there. join us in the higher debate and use it here in our studio. mahmoudi is the economic expert of the program, and naturally , mr. gudari is present in the program as a supporter of the establishment of the land exchange, and mr. mahmoudi believes that it is not the right time now . mr.

mahmoudi, let me start with this question, which is fundamentally opposed where do you come from in setting up the currency exchange for now? yes, in the name of allah, the most merciful , i offer my greetings to your excellency mr. gudari and the viewers. my objection is about feasibility if such a market is possible in the current conditions and it is not under the supervision of the central bank and is in the stock market. well, it can be a way forward, but according to the records we have seen from the central bank, a market will be created again, it will have a ceiling and a floor , it will be artificial, and a completely competitive and transparent market cannot be formed. we have it now we have a wide range of prices. again, this is a market where this market is also a market.

it is not competitive and the market is not perfect. we are not at all in terms of the rules . anyway, the law does not allow you to have more than 10 thousand dollars, so there must be a market where there are certain people with controlled demands. of course, this market is not real, so again. then we will come back to the free market again, and i think we should focus more on making the currency exchange market, the prices real, the rent removed, the tax and the difference removed , the resources reach the producers and the people, and employment and development will happen in the country, but the creation of such a market in the current situation, in my opinion , cannot create the necessary platforms for now, and we will again be involved in the same problems as before, all of which will cause

a new rate and a new rent to be created. for now , my suggestion is that the currency exchange market must reach the real prices of the rents that some people use anyway, and you were sensitive to them in several cases . let's grow production and control inflation, these companies can pay the prices more reasonable, of course, now i will continue to address the issue that we have some misconceptions about the company. it is equal to the world price, so if we create so much distance in the land market , it will definitely not be in the interest of our companies. anyway , i will explain further and

i will provide the number. let's start it and it will benefit from what the supporters say. let's use it. well , i offer my greetings and courtesy to you and all the dear viewers of shabani holidays and to all my friends and dear viewers. my dears, i congratulate you. thank you very much, mr. doctor. well, i would have liked the opposition to be of a substantive nature, that mr. doctor said that i am in agreement with the land market, but now i do not see the conditions as appropriate. so my question is, do we agree with the existence of the land market ? are we or not? this is our question. well, many of our friends who are now in the central bank and others, now there are some opponents, fundamentally oppose us with the existence of a currency market and say that no

, we should not have a currency market at all, while we believe we must have a foreign exchange market , the kind of opposition you said that we have the conditions now it is not possible for this market to exist , we don't have it, so my question is, when should this happen? well , we have been dealing with the same question for 45 years and 46 years . now is not the time. now is not the time. when is the time? anyway, you have taken the land market hostage to a situation, and now these conditions are because it is not ready, the currency market is my hostage, and the market is broad in all parts and angles of people's lives, it has parts and angles of the society's economy. this answer will not be a proper and legislative answer, mr. doctor, you should answer that if the conditions are not suitable, if the conditions are going to make the conditions suitable , then you say, how much is the currency market now?

it is a price, and it should be fixed, or the price of land should be real, and then we will come, for example, to close this land market. in general, our point is that if you do not have a currency market , you will not achieve this goal. you have found the face of the problem , you have lost it. the same thing will always happen and it will never be fixed , do you think? the continuation of this situation will help you to make the land rate real, will the continuation of this situation help us currency exchange rate and the social, cultural, political, economic damage it is causing to the society

. and mr. doctor , look, we are not going to create a new version for this market, we are not going to invent a new wheel , i am not talking about experience, first world countries, developed countries, less developed countries, countries in our region. should we have a broad market, should we have a broad stock market or not? this is whether we should have a currency exchange or not. first, you answer me. do you agree with the existence of a currency exchange ? i say, now we have a currency exchange. i say yes, of course, then you agree. that we should have a stock market, you see , it's a different matter if i say no, we

don't have a stock market, a rent will be created, well, i definitely disagree with this, but the issue is that i say you want to allow the central bank to create a new market again a new rate is the possibility of discussion. in this sense, in all discussions, my market, for example , the discussion of opposition to each of them may have a gender. for me to come and oppose, i should say, sir , no, this is the rent, no, i am against it, but the main issue is whether we will be in charge of this market . you want to form a broad market , well, i say, well, we have a broad market , don't we have a broad market, we have a gold and broad exchange market, now what happened next, the commodity exchange

had a certain mechanism, it was doing its job , a new organization was created anyway. the formulas of the fifth century are being traded and in no way there is no work, the supervisor is the same, the supply is the same, i don't know , the trustee is the same, so this is it. it didn't happen, which means you want to create a market, create it like this and agree with it. those who are against such a market, the market you say, i have to see first, you have to see whether such a market is possible or not. first , you have to answer this question: feasibility or impossibility. sir, such a market is not possible, so i think the important issue is that i say we have a market. it's a wrong mechanism, be focused, mechanism. let's make it and if we give a subsidy to the production sector, let me tell you, sir

, we will give a 5% subsidy, the free market price is, for example, x your amount should be 5% lower than that , mr. gudari, why do you point out that now is the time, mr. mahmoudi, they say no, now is not the time , i am very happy with your reasons, mr. dr. mahmoudi, they agree that we should have a foreign exchange market , this is a big step in itself. and this makes us proud that you have accepted that now yours is the same as now the opponents have accepted that we should have our currency market anyway, so at this step , thank god, we have it, mr. doctor. my argument is that the market we have is mechanized, mr. doctor. combined with the existing market, posto market, and other markets the official market, which is in the corner of the shops, the corner of the passage and the black market, which is not called a market, is a combined market, so we accept it.

it doesn't happen, we don't want anything beyond that , we don't want anything strange

, first of all, don't make this word too big, don't make it too scary, so that we say "ard stock exchange". it is happening in the world and billions of billions of dollars are being exchanged daily in these broad markets, which are called forex. first of all, we have to accept this. the second point is that according to your statement you said, you said that it is not legally possible, we are not allowed to hold more than 10 thousand dollars , you are saying this, you are saying that legally, we are not allowed to keep transactions related to derivative contracts in physical contracts, which means that the nature of these

contracts will not lead to taking possession of currency. they do not exchange land. was it a gold coin? no, it was not. yes, my owner was respected , but is it a coin? alhamdulillah and manna , these experiences exist in the central bank and in the capital market. i think there is no will. will of what gender is it not? however, central has always

been in charge of the wide market from the beginning. gold in this country knew that because of the infrastructure and the traditional approaches that existed in the central bank, and here , it is the responsibility of the central bank to cheat and respond to rate changes . the management of these two markets has not taken the initiative to use it and has always been against this issue. you said in your statements that the central bank has just arrived with a coin certificate and a gold bullion certificate , which has more than 10 thousand billion tomans. he is banning the traded market overnight and banning his own banks from crashing this market . the overnight market is a market . you said something in the 4th century. i say it was formed in the 1st century. for example, it trades gold bullion . this is my approach. the central bank

has a currency exchange because the central bank says, sir, if i have a land exchange. now is not the time . we don't have the infrastructure now. i say we have the infrastructure . look first. the reason i say is why now is different from the past. in the past, the need of economic activists for the land exchange was not the same as it is now, maybe in the past there was a need. and the demand for the creation of a currency exchange has been increasing for many years now, now it is a general economic demand , a general demand of all the activists towards these people, so it should be. for this public demand , an action should be taken. i would like to say a few things. well, after mr. mahmoudi's orders, now you are saying, what are the reasons why you are saying that it is not possible for us to start the stock market now? he owns a company, that's why, see, you

say this, mr. gudari, they say now is the time, don't you see, with what regulations we say. and with how long have you been with the supervision of the central bank according to the resume that we have just mentioned? mr. doctor, why do you think that he should be in charge of this ? this market has not been able to meet the needs of these economic claimants . you insist

, i want you to insist on legal issues from today . what can we do right now, we must fix the exchange market right now, man what i'm saying is that we have a market . you say that the central bank should come and create a company for itself. then it should come again and give a new rate. a new rent should be created there, then say yes. this is the market that you said. no , sir, it is an exchange market. our problem is the width of the product . now, ordinary people

have a price for their needs . of course, it is low and it cannot be covered. the way is to go for the current situation the exchange center in the exchange center of the rates, if the distance is reduced, there will be a rent , if the rates return to production, i said that the real profit margin of production is at the daily rate of 50,00 . let's go and solve this, then let's say, sir, we have a foreign exchange contract from 73 , thank you very much.

and clear is created to meet the width needs of manufacturers and other people who deal with width in some way. also, all those who have an export market can sell their market in this space legally and away from secret and monitored transactions. they provide official and legal references. even if the government wants to give tax exemptions to the exporters, the procedure will be clear. hossein salim the president of the iran and afghanistan chamber of commerce will eliminate the establishment of the brokered land exchange in the foreign exchange market, which

is a very important and significant issue. when the stock is bought on the stock exchange, there are rules that oblige the seller to fulfill obligations. another advantage is that for the money i'm going to give someone, i'm not sure if they 're going to give me sure terms in return. have mustafa safari, capital market expert. entering the capital market is a completely expert and correct work. the government has chosen transparency as a solution to the currency crisis, and from now on , every rate setting will consider supply and demand using stock market mechanisms. pedram soltani, vice president of the chamber of commerce of industries, mines and agriculture of iran. transfer tracking risk. iran's foreign currency is raised by the sanctioning countries with the launch of the currency exchange, and knowing this information, they have blocked the money transfer routes, and hence the problems and disadvantages of the launch of the exchange.

currency becomes more than its benefits. haider meghrebin hosseini, the former deputy of the central bank of iran , monetary and financial policies in our economy do not have logic and standards. therefore, there is no point in setting up a currency exchange at the moment, and a currency exchange should not be set up. if the land exchange is considered as a future market, considering that the currency supplier in iran is the government, not only does it not help to control the market, but there is a possibility of corruption in it. yes, we saw the report together , sir well, i am very happy that all the opponents of their words are from our dear opposite sex they say that we should have a land exchange, but now we don't have the conditions, and

i would like to tell you a few things, and please allow me to finish my request , then you can give your orders. currently, the demand of the society towards the stock market is very different compared to the past. now, in any case , a proper action should be taken for this public demand . the second point is that we had a successful experience in this field . a physical market that people offer between the supplier and the demander is not desired. in the world markets, maybe 2% of these markets and even less is related to this physical exchange between the seller and the buyer. most of the world's markets are based on

currency derivatives markets. and i said about currency derivatives, let me finish now, we have to exchange currency derivatives again in the currency exchange, and there is no legal prohibition, which means you don't need new legislation at all . next , i would like to share a successful development experience, for example, we are in we had a private coin , and i think we had a gold coin derivative market in 2015. the coin type is almost similar to the currency type. the behavior of the gold coin is very consistent with the currency behavior. therefore, when we can easily create a derivative market for the coin, there is no need to let's go from the other side of the world

and come from a place in space to design something. let's get weird, not this currency exchange. in fact, we believe that you should start with the currency derivatives market and later go to physical exchanges, which are very small. the next thing is to develop our technical infrastructure. i think we have more than 80 years of experience in this matter with the exchange software that is being carried out in the stock exchange organization. in any case, the technical knowledge of our own domestic companies is being used, and the domestic technical and software infrastructure of our country is fully responsive. let's not erase the face of the problem, look, we

are always facing it. with economic activists, friends and statesmen, security officials say that we should use foreign investment, well, capital when a foreigner comes to me, he says, "i want to pay for the land price for the money i have in your country. what solution do you have for me? do we have anything? the general demand for foreign investment is the same. i don't say foreign investment." he should come from america , he should come from europe, not from these countries around the regions, if a lebanese shiite wants to invest, for example, 10 million dollars in our country , does he have the right to withdraw his money? what plan do i have for this foreign investor? i thought, what kind of structure do they have, how can i end my bad permission , mr. doctor, because look, we have no way to develop our foreign investment

. i think the example you have is very simple for our dear viewers, your example is a teacher who has a lazy, mischievous child , he doesn't study himself, he doesn't let others study, then the teacher says so, sir, he won't allow me to study, he won't allow me to study now, there is no space, now, let me teach later, what is this excuse , what is this, see mr. doctor, you just said that is this ownership or not? yes, you inquired. yes , from where did you inquire whether this is a crime or whether criminalization is included in it or not. the first thing i would like to say is this

. the producer and the consumer of derivative instruments all help the markets a lot, and by the way, i say that the physical market can be eliminated with the stock market. in general , i say why should we go to buy shares for investment , excuse me, why should we go to buy shares, let's go to stock companies that they are export oriented , let's go and buy them look, mr. doctor , i am telling you this. let's sit down now and look for this. 3 years, 4 years , the legal preparations, the legal inquiries, the platforms should be prepared. let's go and create a market . who will create the central bank? central that no with.