it is trying to dominate the people's economy and people's culture without any response. i mean, what response does instagram have to our people, but yes, until a problem is found, the media will attack it, the government will attack it, i don't know. for example, during the elections, the members of the parliament find a space, for example, we support the people and so on , and they speak against it. it means that it is something that is available, it is not something that cannot be taken care of. because on the one hand, you say that the way is the need of the people do not listen to the representatives, in order to attract the opinion of the people , they are against, so the people are against this in nine or two debates . first of all, the current filtering is the fruit of 10 years of inaction, it has brought us to a state of emergency, a situation that we have gone through several wars , and i do not know how to mess up the country's economy. it has created a thousand cultural problems for the country, now they say, sir, what should you do, now this patient has been imprinted, this patient

has been around since 1988, that is, you can't face this 10-year-old , not exactly the paradigm, exactly the paradigm of our policy making in the virtual space has not changed at all. these 14 years in europe say, sir, we are a problem we had security, now they say we had a security problem , the politician had to close the sekoro platform, for example, no, see, it is exactly the same as understanding the space, for example, which is very interesting to point out.

you see exactly, now we have nothing to do, the official who should be responsible is actually projecting why telegram channels have been active in the last 9 months , the shaknam filter has increased, all the channels in my width are working, why is the land price not playing telegram channels in the last 9 months due to the fact that its ground is in many real spaces on the effective width, in the real space there is a problem for the land for any reason now. experts

should report up and down, but it is not that the market is 40 tomans, the telegram channel says it is 60 tomans , the way it sets the price for the market , why didn't it set a price this month? i say that if there was no telegram , it would be impossible for 70 million iranians to be members of messengers, for example yes or ita, on a channel that announced the price of land. it's changing moment by moment and merck bank's policy is the same as in 2019, remember, in the summer of 2019, if i'm not mistaken, the width of the market would have changed momentarily. at that time, you probably went to the gold dealers or the money changers themselves. if they had an internal network, it would change in a moment. they would go with those who are in the space, which you mean, yes , close that space like jamshid, in the name of god, take it and close it like sultan. if you mean

the former minister of communications and information technology, after a considerable period of extensive filtering and the destruction of the infrastructure of digital economy development in the country , he says that filtering has not been effective in solving the problems they are considering, and numerous damages and publicity in society does not necessarily open to social networks and with a high probability, the reason for neglecting a series of obvious problems was shahab javanmardi, deputy chairman of tehran chamber's digital economy and transformation commission, according to unofficial statistics, people

spend at least 5 thousand billion tomans to buy vpn , which is equivalent to one billion dollars. and if people don't need vpn and this amount is paid to the operators, they can use part of this amount to develop the cost below. if the constructions are maintained, it means that we will take the money out of people's pockets and this cost will be imposed on them, but it will lead to welfare id, more accessibility and better internet. it can't be done and everyone feels guilty and this is a big strategic risk in my opinion. estesen etzari , the former secretary of the supreme council of cyber ​​space, the issue of filters exists in all countries , it is not unique to iran, and each country implements this system with a different scope of work. . in iran , all officials agree with filtering. maybe there is a difference about mossadegh filtering , but with the drafting of the virtual space policy agenda, these differences will be resolved. i don't believe in filters, but i believe that i should

start something like instagram and password, the government should be responsible if today the people don't have an internal password and use a foreign password , they should not be indifferent about it. abdul hossein khosropanah, secretary of the supreme council of cultural revolution, in the world and in all countries such as america, england , germany, france, japan, south korea and china , they use filtering, and we do not know any country in the world that does not use filtering. the world has accepted filtering with certain conditions, but domestic capacities must be strengthened. for this example, internal applications should be strengthened day by day and people can use them in business and social and cultural activities. we have overcome numerous political and social security challenges, according to mr. habibi, in the last 10 years, for example, in the last 15 years

. according to the officials of the time, some of these social networks, in any way, in any way that it is referred to, to lay the groundwork for. in order to investigate and deal with such incidents that we are witnessing, in any case, there is a need to finally put a stop to this issue. what do you think , when messengers inflame the atmosphere? what should be done to haghiji? see, you first say messengers unites, it should be clear because messengers.

throw in the press , they are fueling an issue that is sure to throw a tyrant in the shah's time, the example of which is that the shah said that these intellectuals and the press and the atmosphere they create are the cause of this situation . there is a real root in every social issue, that issue may be wrong by a group of people, that is a separate issue, but it has a real root . messenger actually helps to either it creates an environment for these opinions to be spread in the society, it is certain that in the situation of inflammation , people will refer to the messages of the media more and it will intensify

. if you look at the car that ignites, they ignite a hundred corpses. by the way, i put an example. there are many accounts that have all these images. the second point here is to assume that we have such a space. did the filtering solve this now that we have almost 10 to the first messenger and social network in the world, if you refer to 9 or 10 we filtered them, we filtered almost all of them, now that we have filtered them, and now that we have completely filtered them, it means

the same partial legitimacy that existed in the interior. finally , people said that these are somehow accessible and had a non-filtering mode. now that it is official to go to an underground network, it means now, let 's negotiate or apply any solution , sir, what do you want to say, since you filtered me at all, i.e. tools. we don't have you, like a father who has a child who leaves the house, he has closed the way to negotiate. in fact , it has made the negotiation very difficult now that you are the filter. what else did mr. zarpour say , clearly announcing that we are ready, come on, we have always been ready, the problem is that now that it has been filtered, have those issues been resolved with the filter? if the technical ability is intentional. there is also a series of arguments that we say, we say that there is no solution with the filter , part of it is because technically it is not possible to block

, this is what we are seeing now, it is almost close to the ceiling of the technical possibilities that the gentlemen are doing, if they believe that it is not possible to do it. not giving means what does a little bit mean? in the end, alhamdulillah , the parliament and the government are aligned with this view and they are also applying filtering, no , they are not aligned, no, if in any order, at least in the technical set of this issue , they should apply it with all possible power, because it is a balance. somewhere more, you want to tighten the filtering , it will harm the positive applications and finally the internal networks, the same thing we say, we say why we say filtering is not the solution , because filtering is not possible except to the extent of what you see now, now i have a clear question. and i am clear that anyone can say any concern, any injury for social networks , you have to answer this question as well. is it solved for the current filtering system, or on the contrary

, it went to the bottom, as the famous saying goes, that is, it went to a place where you can no longer officially say that this network operates in my country. while everyone is using telegram, for example, it has gone under. no , well, anyway, now you have 20 million people using it. unfortunately, mr. kashori, they think that , for example, if we want a solution to this big problem, we should talk. we say, sir, the filter is the rod of moses, this is how we throw it, for example. snakes it will be eaten and the problem will be solved . the problem is not like this at all. look, we are exactly. if you allow me , i kept silent during your speech and listened. you see , filtering is not supposed to be the rod of moses, no one has ever made such a claim. filtering did what the networks did in addition to native development. he did something that the networks that i mentioned at the time were in 1997 and this was the first time filters were applied on telegram , soroush messengers and other domestic media messages, like yes, like ita, even these.

for example, of course, telegram, instagram, and whatsapp, and this not using

official statistics, i have not heard so far, but unofficial statistics. the work in the expert space that we are hearing is that ita and telegram are almost equal to each other today in terms of active users, now telegram may be a bit higher, but it no longer has that all-round dominance without opposition like this. instagram is also the same. this is a discussion. another discussion related to it, we said it is similar to rubik 's, i think it has increased explosively, that is , it has increased by 10 times, i don't know, it has increased by 5 to 8 times , it has also increased by five times. now i know this exactly please refer to the statistics given by the ministry of communications . very well, now you want me to answer. no , please let me gather my thoughts again. mr. keshwauri, see about the situation of internal messengers. first of all, we are in favor of the development of internal messengers . there is no room for discussion that we should, for example, from we should support the message of foreign media and not support the domestic one. this is not the case at all. our problem

is that the message of the media, first of all, the message of the domestic media , must be regulated for applications related to electronic government, administrative documents like these, and anyone against this practice. he should be punished this is not a debate at all, that is, i will clarify the lines of my argument, like what he said in france , exactly, that your government is right and that is what i am right. to prevent government documents and things like these or electoral government services , for example, registration, for example, fuel cards, for example, this must be in the interior, no one is arguing about this, the economy of the people.

first of all, the person who left , let me finish talking, the part that left is the responsibility of the government to educate the users about the trends of everything, to provide an internal platform , that is, you, for example, the likes of baslam, digikala, etc. these are ready to have the ability of the others' instagram, and one of our mistakes in parentheses was that we filtered everyone and left instagram open. it is natural that there is an extreme monopoly and dominance on instagram.

we heard from you that anyway , if we had social insecurity, if we had an economic problem, if we had a problem, for example, and we had foreign messengers, what should be done ? they say, what happened to see 18 million? i have asked the people in charge of user statistics many times it is only an activist that is misleading . of course, the success of someone is under the question of an effective society that affects the social and political environment like this. internal expression. is this not a matter of people's safety

? it didn't matter to him. he has come to ita , these are important, these are the people, yes, some of the people , you must see, there is no longer going to be a discussion about the people, no one is saying that these are not the people, there is no one to say that these are not the people, i was coming down just now, the servant of god, who had an important news from the network. now i don't know when it will be broadcast, he looked at me and said that i heard this news while the tv was on , i saw it on telegram, i mean people. now this was an example, you can see around us, the social, political and economic activists, how many percent have come now from ita, yes, etc., they are using foreign substitutes, the active user shows this. i wish the bandwidth consumption statistics of these would also be published, especially the trend of a network like

instagram, the bandwidth is comparable, not internally , but internally, which we already have, why not internally. before user filtering

, the best message of our media was 2%, now it has reached, for example, 50%. or 63 users are using the filter breaker . how do you mean we have minutes ? i can ask. i explained. i said that there is someone every day, and yes, and the rest, someone may install it to send a document . it's very good. i'll see if nothing happens. i don't want to tell the media. it is very good to develop internally , you must be growing right now import cars, import iran khodro , the so-called production site, the use and popularity of people will increase, there is no question about it. it is clear that when you block something, but obviously in the field of cyberspace, in the field of cyberspace, the filtering is enough, that you have 623 right

now, maybe it is more than a few months ago , you have used the filter breaker for a one-minute summary. keep in mind that in any case, we have a special election plan to see what the next parliament should do and how it should come in . see, first i have a quick answer to them. we have a minute, if someone once in a month , i have dozens of them now , i am talking about, for example, filtering, maybe because of a thousand different reasons, including the fact that my friends may not come inside, they force me to come in. on whatsapp, for example, answer me , i may have to filter it once a month, for example, and turn it on, but the statistics i give are the daily active user statistics, which means there are 18 million iranian users on it daily.

we definitely need to revise the computer crime law of 2008 in the area of ​​violations crimes and frauds and the like, we definitely need to update the qur'an in authentication for the services that are provided in the virtual space of businesses. if this happens, we definitely need a piece of hope from the violations, both inside and outside, how it will be solved in the outside space. most of all, this program is definitely so interesting that we will definitely jump into another program. thank you very much. both guests of the program, i thank all my viewers for accompanying us until this moment.

a workshop to display heritage toys at the research institute's booth. it has become much closer, it has been tried to use the common themes of cultural heritage in the field of children and adolescents. one of the things we have done is the discussion of modernizing and actually updating the games. we can divide the games into several parts, and in this area, in the field of cultural heritage, we can introduce a part of the revival of ancient games, such as the city had burned game and the maradem game, the city had burned, which has been modernized

, the ancient game of the city had burned, the city game. burned, this was an exploration in the city of burned. well, exploration a very small part of it was related to the game, it was pulled out, it was presented, it was unveiled, there is a method , articles are being worked on, so that the world can know and see that such a game exists. of this type , we have a few more, that is , we have so many that we are talking to the children of karon, that we can make a scientific article out of them. it is very indicative of the maneuver method and as an iranian culture, for example , it is known to the whole world that we have these games. and we are doing this. in this workshop, some updated heritage toys for children were displayed. the research we did on the methods the concepts of psychology and education that exist and are being used in the world. archeology of cultural heritage concepts. now this can be a museum, a building, a site, a heritage of honor . if all this

is told to the children through a game, through a practical and experimental activity, i.e. what the children do with their hands, that understanding will be formed very well in the minds of the children, and we are based on continuous workshops. when we held that all these were with the approach of the game and with the approach of experience , we saw that, well, all of them. those concepts that maybe the theory had no use to say in that approach game-oriented was institutionalized in children, children understand the value of heritage, the value of the archaeologist's work in general , the importance of protecting this heritage, how do you feel now that you are actually seeing the game up close, a historical game of 5 thousand years that has been updated, a sense of history i feel like i 'm stuck in the city now, children. in this workshop , they learned about one of the symbols of iranian architecture by painting on tiles . this child, instead of just visiting this tile, we want him to

put rangga in his mind. let him see the shape of the tiles, then when he comes , we will give him a tile in the practical part of the work this child is wondering what color the tile was, he starts painting the patterns , he remembers that these tile patterns were made of this color, and this tile material actually stays in his mind, where and what color was used. what shapes did it have? what was its design? about the game you are playing, do you know what it is to paint pottery? it is very happy, then it is used a lot in the mosque, what games do you play, color games , do you paint? games are heritage, if you are going

to introduce a game to children, what better way to introduce it. it is a game that is related to identity . now we are trying to get sponsors for these games , according to the discussions we had with the scientific vice president, the scientific vice president, and the private sector in general. invest in games that are related to the country's cultural heritage . let's introduce 200,000 games that children play while subtracting. and excitement is actually paid in other ways they learn directly how different human species and humans lived on the planet 200 thousand years ago. ahmad aminfard of sed and broadcasting news agency.

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