i would like to serve you and ladies with 55 years , yes, well, i invite all the viewers, if they are interested in this discussion , follow us on khabar network. thank you . iran telegram is playing with the country, why are you pricing this month? your question is an interesting question . we don't want to hit the football manager .

mr. mohammadi , you are special for the election program . you are against the presence of the reason for your opposition with the increase in the retirement age, what is happening at this point ? i seek refuge in god, man al-shaitan al-arjim , in the name of allah, the most merciful , the most merciful. the fact that the plan, in fact , the seventh development program of articles 28 and 29

, was approved in the parliament and the guardian council also proposed and approved it was a good opportunity before we discuss the expert discussions about increasing the retirement age, and i think there is a lot of space for discussion now. the retirement age should not be increased and it is better to discuss the issue more let's talk about the salary of 2014, but thank you, we have already paid for this. here are a few questions, why the government does not have the financial ability to make new commitments. it is expected that day by day

the number of insured persons who are now protected and the definition of the exemptions that is actually given to them by insurance is increasing day by day. what is more serious is why the number of real insured people has decreased, that is, now. the support ratio is mentioned. they say that the support ratio is decreasing, that is, the support ratio the number of insurance payers compared to those who receive a pension, and this is a point that friends who are in favor of raising the retirement age keep talking about the fact that this support ratio is decreasing due to the aging of the population and the increase in life expectancy.

and the funds are one of the reasons for this, because they are facing a crisis now, but the serious question is why the number of real insured persons is low, and according to the current population indicators, we should flourish now. our fund should be in the best condition and the most flourishing condition, not in the present let's talk about the critical nature of the funds, mr. mohammadi. see, mr. mirghafari said that there are almost no dissenting opinions regarding the issue of the support factor, i.e. the ratio of insurance payers to the ratio of retirees. well, one of the reasons that caused the support factor to decrease in all funds and actually find a downward trend is not the issue of reducing the number of entries. the reforms of early retirements

are in the 80s, which 7/14/80, detail 2 of article 76 of the security law was amended, and the discussion of early retirement is related to its harmfulness. currently, our pensions are 48 it is overdue that i don't think there is a discussion of early retirements in any country like iran's pension funds, that the number of our entries has decreased . we had a new recruited person who both increased this support factor and kept it constant during the period . now our social security fund's support factor is more than four

. why does the support factor decrease as promised? our decade of 54 our support ratio was 25 to one. the growth process is four and a half to one early retirements and amendments to laws during different periods, especially early retirements , have caused the support factor to decrease . in order to maintain and improve this factor , one of the ways is to increase the number of insured persons and increase the fund's income. . i would like to give you a number that in december compared to december , we had an increase of 132,000 new insured persons. we also have new compulsory insured persons . now, we

have 10,900,000 compulsory insured persons subject to the insurance law, and the last the statistics that i will give you are more than 16 million we have new insured people. well , there is a gap between formal employment and informal employment and the insurance coverage ratio that more than 24 million people in the country have formal and informal employment. according to the statistics that i presented to you, the total funds which are carried out as social insurance coverage services in the country , covering about 18,600,000 people, of which more than 7 are related to insurance, and the rest of our other funds are still 6 million people with 18 million and 24 million still not being covered is a part related to the provision of smoke, which i think escapes there is an insurance, and a part

of it is related to other funds, such as the villagers' insurance fund and other funds in our society, whose purpose is to carry out the work of insurance. in the coming year and in the years to come, the first thing we should do is not to have insurance coverage in the country, whether there are certain insured persons or certain people who exist, and whether there are workshops covered by the insurance law. if they are not included in the special employment regulations , they are not included in other funds , it is our sovereign duty and in the implementation of article 1 of the social insurance law. these let's cover our second issue is the issue of foreign nationals, one of our duties and that of other funds is that people who work in the country with a work permit

are covered by your insurance this year . god willing, we will also cover the foreign media . the reforms that should be discussed in any case regarding the general policies of social security should be followed by the announcement that the honorable gentleman had, well, it should definitely be done, but the easiest solution is to elect the government, and in any case, there could be many better measures. and it is more effective to handle the cash that has come in, according to what mr. mohammadi said, and i confirm the format of his speech, and 6 million according to our report, 6 million, in fact, we have uninsured workers, which means that they do not pay insurance, so if this 6 million is the number of insurance if the payers are added now, the support ratio

will increase, why are these measures not taken, and in the first place , we will go to increase the retirement age, which means we will forget the main issue. and in general, we have to pay attention to the share of informal jobs, find the roots, see what has caused this, in fact, the current situation, if allowed. let me give you a brief summary about the overall story and the low number of real insured people at your service , which may be a little different from the opinion of our dear guest. you see, in the 60s and 70s , there were more than 94 permanent workers, and considering that now the government in the decade 70, its economic policies will change, and the construction of the next government will be done by the construction government. at present, more than 956 of our

workforce is temporary, which means there are no more permanent contracts. the contracts have become temporary. gone and with the loss of job security of this organizational structure and organization and its aftermath, the structure of the bargaining system has been destroyed, and now the structure of the bargaining system. the intensity is weak, especially from the working class, and this has caused the level of salaries and wages to be kept low in such a way that we use the word wage suppression, which means a macro policy that has kept wages low and currently the minimum wage. the wage is such that no one is interested in entering formal jobs, that is, because their livelihood is not secured, and

with that, a significant portion of the forces that are now entering informal jobs due to the suppression of wages , could actually restore the wage through policy. that the salary is such that it can actually provide for the livelihood of their families and their families , they enter official jobs and are subject to mandatory insurance , well, the number is not a small number, it is a large number, which means that

for every four people, we actually have one retired person who pays the insurance. if we have wrong pensioners , then if this number is increased, then the ratio of our insurance payers will be much higher than our pensioners, and this support ratio, which i think is ideal, should be 5 or higher. five and a half and above is ideal, this can have a significant change , so on the other hand, we ignore a macro policy. and when we want to solve a problem, we come again from the side of the one who has lost and suffered so far, we want to solve the problem of the fund and the organization again , we want to ask again from the side of the same group that was vulnerable and damaged. the problem

officially announced by the ministry of interior , we have nearly 5 million foreign nationals working in the country , and now these must be organized. the unofficial statistics are close to 8 million people. well, if these statistics are claimed together and in fact compulsory insurance is included in the status of both foreign nationals and non-official jobs, and it is organized, then definitely zarib. the support increases drastically and the effect is significant in fact. it will affect the economic situation of the funds, mr. mohammadi, how much do you agree that the easiest and easiest way to reform

the funds is to start from the retirement age, mr. doctor , the discussion of reforming the structure of the funds, the discussion of preventing imbalances, only one item is not considered in the set of reforms. they are considering a stone, now the increase in the number of insured persons is one of the items , the age adjustment. retirement is one of the items. i will give an explanation about the revision of the retirement age. platforma is not informal employment. it is an official employment within the framework of the rules of the established platforms . there are a number of people working on the platforms . is their insurance mandatory or optional? mr. mirghafari, you should explain whether these are the

three. is there a condition in the labor law , economic compliance, mandated compliance and doing work between this platform and the people who work on that platform , or is there a platform or not? from my point of view , the provision of osmosis according to the standards of articles 32, 31 and 32 of the law on osmosis says about those categories of the insured whose salary was provided by the customers, the employer is obliged to work according to the salary received by this person. let's insure now it should be checked whether these are mandatory or optional. however, in the law of the 7th plan regarding insurance coverage, people who work on platforms that work in virtual business space companies should be covered. well, from my point of view

, i refer to articles 31 and 32 of the insurance law. i say that there is a type of forced relationship. and these must be covered by compulsory insurance. now these should also be covered. if we optimistically increase this support factor to seven , yes, that means we cover all those 6 million, the balance is almost being maintained. but this is an item. the second point that is raised , is increasing the age as easy as we said in the law? see the legislator. wisely, this matter has been approved as promised. i would like to give you one point. in article 29 of the supplementary clauses, it is said that between 28 and 30 years, there is no need to increase the record , which means that people who are 28 years old and older can be released at any time. now the points

i present my law to you. between 25 and 28, it said: add 2 months to a year. between 20 and 25 , it said 3 months to a year. between 15 to 20 years, it said to add 4 months to a year, and under 15 years, 5 years to a year. but the second part of the law has come. any person can apply for pension based on the previous rules , so they can apply for pension based on the previous rules . it depends, if the condition of seniority has been promised, but how will it be proportional, but how will it be established continuously?

he is 20 years old and 42 years old. well, but the law says how much should be added between 20 and 25 years? said to add 3 months. this lady can go next year with the same 20 years and 42 years. he says to calculate the ratio of employment industries to mandatory employment . i count the average of the last two years. i count 20 wires. because it will be 60 3 months earlier.

this person's pension will be reduced by 400 tomans, which means that the effect of this increase in age and experience is much less , it is a gentle slope. they are working to provide you, and in this way, according to one person, there was uncertainty in the society that it will be 32 years from now, while this is not the case , it means that every year 2 months, 3 months, 4 months and finally 5 years are added. see, the argument we gave is a question. i am asking why the original story is being forgotten and they are doing the easier and easier work, and in fact, what

the main workers, the insurance payers, the employees , are the ones who are affected, and we are directly between the retirement age and the increase of the retirement age. the groups that are the most to see, i said the discussion of wage suppression why don't you mention that this suppression of wages can have an effect on the income of the social security organization, that is, on the other hand, informal jobs , which you yourself argued are included in mandatory insurance, why are they not , the question is why insurance is not mandatory, the role of wages in wages and insurance because.

or maybe a general or macro policy, why the contribution of keeping the hands of the museum down is actually not paid by the social security income, on the other hand , the government's own debts to the social security organization. continuous and innumerable obligations given by the government itself , the exemptions given by the government accept the employer's share why don't we deal with these and first of all, we will come to the time when we ask the employees and the workers to compensate this budget deficit or this imbalance of funds, and the next question is why our economic participation rate is low? that is, the main story is that we have to go to the hypothesis of a low economic participation rate and this has a positive effect on the politics and income of the organization, and now

on other funds . the agents are together. i do not agree at all that i it's not the hand at all. first of all, this argument means that someone who did not have bargaining power could not argue and defend himself. you came first and increased his age . i understand this, if i make a small point, and this is my understanding with this. in fact , the events that happened in the seventh development program are as follows. in fact, the currents have turned out that the government does not need to attract the opinion of the society and the target society at all. it means that he is taking a single task forward and as mr. mohammadi mentioned in the implementation of these policies as if the policies are actually the policies of the leadership and from the position.

the leadership has come and we should not have any more criticism towards him. what is being discussed is actually his approval in one day and two hours in the parliament and the fact that many representatives do not know that they are voting by themselves, this is very ambiguous. that is, on the one hand, in order to legitimize the story, they relate the case to the leadership institution, that is, this policy that was announced by the leadership, while there was no direct reference to the increase of the retirement age. amending the set of social security regulations from the program law. the fifth is the development of matter 73 of the law of the fifth development plan was that the provision regulations must be amended. in the opening article

of the law of permanent orders, in the discussion of the law of the sixth development plan, it is explicitly written that the government is obliged to reform the structure of the fund and reduce dependence on the fund and the public budget in the seventh plan. i might say that more than two years before this seventh plan, the government is obliged according to the constitution to allow a moment, yes, in the seventh plan and before the seventh plan, the overall social security empowerment plan had been approved by the social commission of the honorable majlis of the islamic council, with the presence of the honorable representatives. employers and workers of this discussion, i am not in this situation at all. first of all, i think this issue has been studied for more than 2 years. by the way, the honorable government has acted boldly here. i would like to say a few points.

he has organized the discussion of exemptions, the organization of special groups, he has also organized the discussion of workshop insurance premium exemptions, that is, the discussion that the government gives exemptions, but it is not followed, the discussion on industrial budget laws, both the government of last year and the pr year , the main part of the organization's demands. he has predicted the exemptions from the government in the industrial budget. and a part of the demands that were supposed to be fulfilled the organization of providing food and drink, which was done last year, we came and cleared the debt to the refah bank, this year in the industrial budget, fortunately with the help of the honorable government and the presence of the honorable members of the islamic council, about 170 thousand billion tomans are provided in the law, and god willing, if those uncertainties

of the council dear guardian of the honorable assembly , if the expediency of the system is resolved, part of the government's demands regarding the exemptions will be solved, although it is also mentioned in the seventh plan and development law that at the same time those exemptions are applied, well, one of the duties of the governments is that a part of the insurance premiums special groups they should ensure that they can make insurance payments, but this issue should be foreseen in the budget laws. in the law of the seventh plan, in the law of the sixth plan, in the discussion of the sixth plan , it was that article 12 that the government was obliged to settle all the claims of the insurance organization during the sixth development plan , well, it settled a part of it. repressing wages i believe that wages first.

you should sit down with the wage organizations, i don't determine the wages in the labor law of those who are subject to the government, for a moment those who they are subject to the social security law , they are subject to the labor law , it is within the framework of the approvals of the supreme labor council and the supreme employment council, and the one that is about government employees is within the framework of the regulations of the general budget of the government and the laws of the industrial budget and with the approval of the honorable islamic council, but usually during courses related to the supreme employment council and the supreme labor council , sorry , i said employment. the supreme labor council is usually 5% more than the government employee related courses . my colleagues in the group

the welfare and power of the news agency. seda sima , prepare another report, prepare another report regarding the review , opinions of experts, supporters, opponents of raising the retirement age, let's see it happen together , let's go back and debate seyyed salat mortazabi, minister of labor cooperation and social welfare, gradually increasing the retirement age is one of the ways of sustainability of the funds. it is retirement that prevents them from going bankrupt . increasing the retirement age is a universally accepted rule, and this method can stabilize the stability of pension funds. hassan sadeghi, the head of the pishoutan union of the labor community. age increasing retirement is to the detriment of workers and it leads to more unemployment in the society due to the reduction of motivation of workers to pay for insurance. increasing the retirement age from 30 to 35 years.

it makes employees suffer from job burnout, physical and mental exhaustion and inefficiency. ahmed midari, university professor and pension affairs expert. retirement age reforms have been implemented in 117 countries of the world, and iran is bound to implement it as well. without correcting the imbalance of funds, the problem of unemployment and inflation will not be solved. one of the causes of inflation and budget deficit is government assistance. it has now reached 20% of the year's budget. olya aligir, president the board of directors of the high center of islamic labor councils. increasing the retirement age is a punishment for the workers and the implementation of this decree threatens the public trust of the society. in addition to the life expectancy index, two components