98 mr. seif, the head of the central bank, says, "sir , the economic policy of the country is out of my hands. why did this happen, because there is a channel in telegram that does this before . newspapers couldn't do this, but this is the shift of the workers they say, but telegram channel can do this and it can play with the price and width, that is, the highest official of the central bank of our country says, sir, this telegram channel is playing with the width of the country, so this is the effect of the economy. this is the message of social media . let me give another example: the issue of digital width that telegram had to offer america's gram is ordering that you must collect this service, why is it doing this because it knows that it has its own domination over the world economy that is happening through the dollar, and this is getting out of its hands, so this same social messenger has this same social network. he does these things, but now they say that if fraud can be done on internal platforms, for example

, you should intercept and see who did this on instagram, telegram, but also in the internal virtual space and internal social networks. this is one more thing. let me serve you the same people feel like living on instagram, what you see as content in, for example, the instagram explorer section , this creates culture, what is your policy , do you show content to people, why, for example, when i say something, do users to account

a user similar to one with, for example, i don't know, 2 million users, that one also has 2 million users who follow this man's words, which are about food, and i don't know about lebanon, and i don't know about islam, revolution, and these things. this is not published . this is not visible in instagram explorer. as much as the one who is speaking and acting against them if it is seen, it means that we don't see zero and one anymore. this is very clear. we go back to your previous statement where you say that the filter is happening from the source, the filter is happening from the source, the orientation is happening. socially, they say that the period of socialization of teenagers means that the teenager wants to enter the community, he is getting to know his community, on what platform he knows it, on the platform of instagram, on the platform of instagram, who do they clap for? i know it is very first class up there well, now mr. keshwauri raised a question that we did not get an answer from you.

first, what is the ideal filtering in your opinion and how long should it continue, i mean, this is the ideal filtering, the filtering that does not block the way of responding to people's needs, does not block the real needs of the people , and provides them, and at the same time, the way of removing fraud is the way of those who they want to dominate our country, our sovereignty, this filtering is desirable, in my opinion, it means that wherever a person is coming, he wants to dominate the economy of the people, the culture of the people, without any respond too.

the futures are opposed in order to attract people's opinion , so that means the people are against this. there are two main arguments. first , the current filtering is the result of 10 years of inaction . it has created a cultural problem for the country, now they say, sir, what should you do, now this patient is cured, this patient started seriously in 2008, it was before that, but now, obviously, social networks, youtube, twitter.

exactly, our political paradigm in cyberspace has not changed in all these 14 years in europe

in general, with those who have there , if you mean to close that space like jamshid, in the name of allah, and close it like sultan , they will take coins, which will not affect me later. it creates in the currency system , we have to close it, the main factor is telegram, it is not the main factor of banking policies . let's go see another report and take a look at the opinions of supporters and opponents of governance in cyber space and blocking the message of the media and social networks, let's see it together, let's go back and follow up our conversation. mohammad javad azari jahrumi, the former minister of communications and information technology, does anyone have the courage to

say that filtering for solving the problems considered by them was not effective, and numerous and obvious damages in the society necessarily social problems did not return and with a high probability the cause was neglect of a series of obvious problems, shahab javanmardi, vice-chairman of the economic innovation and digital transformation commission of the tehran chamber, based on other statistics officially, people spend at least 50 thousand billion tomans to buy vpn, which is equivalent to one billion dollars, and if people do not need vpn and this amount is paid to the operators, they can spend part of this amount to develop the infrastructure. to maintain it means that we take money out of people's pockets and this cost is imposed on them, but it does not lead to welfare id, more accessibility and better internet, and everyone feels guilty, and this is a big strategic risk in my opinion. former supreme council of cyber ​​space, the topic of filtering in all there are countries, it is not specific to iran, and each country

implements this system with a different work scope . in iran, all officials agree with filtering. maybe there is a dispute over the validity of filtering, but these disputes will be resolved with the drafting of the regulation of cyberspace policy. abolhassan firouzabadi, former secretary of the supreme council of cyberspace. as a policy maker in the field of virtual space, i do not believe in filters, but i believe that i should launch something similar to instagram and password. the government must be responsible. if the nation does not have an internal password today and they use foreign password , don't be indifferent about it. abdul hossein khosrapanah, secretary of the supreme council of cultural revolution. filtering is used in the world and in all countries such as america, england, germany, france, japan, south korea and china, and we do not know any country in the world that does not use filtering. the world has accepted filtering with certain conditions, but domestic capacities must be strengthened . for this example, internal applications should

be strengthened day by day and people can use them in business and social, cultural, economic activities and even religious delegations. do we reviewed the opinion of the supporters and opponents , mr. keshwauri, now the clear and specific question is, we face numerous political and social security challenges , according to mr. habibi. for example, in the past 10 years, the past 15 years, according to the officials of the time, at any time, some of these social networks , in any way, in any way that is mentioned , to lay the groundwork for the weakness of the officials of that time, in your presence, the united space. to make matters worse, mr. habibi points out that a place is needed to investigate and deal with such incidents that we are witnessing.

the atmosphere should be like this, practically the message of the media their restrictions will not be lifted, right , let's pass it now, but the point is that in the past decades, you could have blamed the press for fueling an issue, which is definitely an example of the tyrant era of the shah. the shah said that these intellectuals and the press and the atmosphere they create are the cause of this situation, but the people here, that every social issue has a real root , that issue may be wrong by a group of people, that

is a separate issue, but it has a real root, you in all the unrest is now economic or any other issue what the relevant experts should check is that the messenger actually helps or creates the atmosphere for these opinions to be spread in the society . it is certain that people will refer to the messages of the media more often in the situation of inflammation, and maybe in france. and his video and pictures were broadcasted, so this space also exists in other countries, surely

some of its cases may be illegal , this is not my point, it does not deny what should happen in such a situation, the second point here is to assume that we have such a space has filtering solved this now that we have about 10 messages the world's first social media and network, if you refer to it, we have filtered 9 or 10 of them , we have filtered almost all of them, now that we have filtered them, and they are completely gone, it means the same partial legitimacy that existed in the country. it was non-filtering now that going to the underground network officially means that now we want to negotiate or apply any solution that you, sir, who filtered me at all, what do you want to say, it means that we have no tools, you are like a father who has a child. the house is bigger than the outside. the way to negotiate is closed in fact, it has made the negotiation very difficult. now that this

filtering has been done, mr. zarepour has said something else . he has clearly announced that we are ready to say yes, no. well, you have always come . the problem is that now that it has been filtered, have those issues been resolved with filtering? exactly, in the continuation of the optimal filtering discussion, now we use all our technical power , if the technical power is intentional , there is also a series of discussions that we say, we say that there is no solution with the filter. we are seeing that it is almost close to the ceiling of technical facilities what the gentlemen are doing, if they believe that not doing it, what does it mean to not do it , what does it mean, after all, alhamdulillah, the government of the parliament and these are in line with this view and they are also applying filtering , no, they are not in line, no, if in any way, at least in the technical group this matter with all the power of believers. do it because they have to apply a balance. from somewhere , you want to tighten the filtering to

the positive applications and finally it will harm the internal networks , the same thing we say, we say why we say filtering is not the solution because there is no possibility of filtering except in the limit this is what we see now now, i have a clear and clear question. anyone who has any concerns, any damage to the social network , should also answer this question, whether it was solved with the current filter system or the other way around. it went under the ashes, as the famous saying goes, which means it went to a place where officially you can no longer say that this network operates in my country, while everyone is using telegram, for example, now it has gone under. a million is that, for example, if we want to talk about the solution of this big issue, for example, we say, sir , filtering is the rod of moses, we say it like this, for example he will eat all the snakes and the problem will be solved. the problem is not like this at all. look, we are exactly what you are saying. if you allow me, i kept quiet during your speech and listened

. you see , filtering is not supposed to be moses' race. development. bumi did something that the networks that i mentioned at the time were in 2017 and this was the first time the filter was applied on telegram, soroush messengers and other internal messengers like yes, like ita , they couldn't even send activation sms, today the development has happened, messaging like ita may it can respond to 18 million daily users , it can respond to 25 million monthly active users , this development is in addition to filtering. it caused the users who were in the space of telegram and i don't know instagram to migrate to these sites. our question is mr. keshwauri. please answer what caused this 3 million users to become 18 million to 25 million and let's say that now i am a i would like to add a few more points, because we raised many issues, i see that

you asked, maybe you want to answer right now , now answer in their own time, this is a discussion, a discussion. the next thing is to see that in the discussion of negotiations, when we say , sir, for example, let's go to negotiate, they should adhere to this , then you gave a statistic from ita, from the statistics , for example, telegram and instagram, for example, you have statistics that, for example, have decreased. for example , i have not heard the official statistics of not using telegram, instagram, and whatsapp . telegram may be

the first that we agree with the development of internal media messages the discussion is not that we should, for example, support the message of foreign media and not support the domestic one. this is not the case at all . our problem is that the message of the media, first of all, the message of the domestic media, definitely and definitely for the applications related to electronic government, administrative documents. proverbs these should be regulated and anyone who violates this practice should be punished. this is not a discussion at all . i mean, i will clarify the lines of my argument, like what was left in france. exactly, the government has the right and i am right. this is to prevent government documents from being published. and things like these or services the government, for example, registration, for example, fuel card, for example, this must be in the interior

, no one is discussing this at all, what is the economy of the people, so now i will explain about my economy, because you mentioned it, now it is interesting to have time. the part that has gone is the duty of the government to educate the users and tell them the consequences of anything and provide an internal platform, that is, you, for example , baslam and digikala and others like these are ready to have the ability to use instagram, the rest and one of our mistakes in parentheses. let me say that we filtered everyone and left instagram. it is natural that

there is an extreme monopoly and dominance on instagram the parentheses are attached, the next point is the consequences when he does this. whatever he says, the business itself must choose whether i should sell my goods on, for example, salam and digikala, or on instagram, which may , for example , close my business. it's not like that at all. a very low percentage. a question right in the middle . let me ask one thing. i'll ask this because you're talking about the economy. now, we didn't get the answer to mr. habibi's question from you, if we had social insecurity anyway. there is no discussion about it at all they say, "so what happened to 18 million? see , i have asked many times from the people responsible for the user statistics and only active users are misleading. of course

, success is not questioned by anyone. where did this success come from? this success was due to compulsion, and finally some after filtering. yes, for whom, let me complete the discussion, for whom was it effective? what was our purpose in filtering this ? for example, my grandfather said that he could not get a filter breaker or for some reason it was not important to him it has come to ita, these are important, these are the people, yes , some of the people, you must see that there is no longer going to be a populist discussion, no one says these are not the people , there is no one who says these are not the people, i was coming down just now b. god, who was telling me about an important news from the network, which i don't know when it will be broadcast , was looking at me and said that i

saw this news while the tv was on. let's see the social, political and economic activists, how many percent have come from ita and yes and other alternatives foreigners use it, the active user shows this , instead of using it on a high scale, you see the viewers of this program. anyone should compare themselves and their surroundings . by the way, this is stupid. why, you are in a spectrum where everyone around you has telegram. i

am in a spectrum that all right, so i will publish valid polls. this poll is valid . the 3% that i am saying is an official poll, which means that it is confirmed that before the filtering, and after that, similar things have happened. from the filtering of users, the best message of our media is 2% now it has reached, for example, 50% . now, i have forgotten this fact. if i am not mistaken, i remember the report that the parliament industry commission read in public . we are having a moment, i can also ask ita how

, once a month , i have dozens so far .

come on, for example, what do i know, whatsapp , answer me, i might have to go once once a month, for example, i will filter it and turn it on, but the statistics i have are the statistics of daily active users, that is, 18 million iranian users visit ita every day . let us have your attention for a minute. let me tell you how the parliament can enter, how the parliament can help. well , what is the specific proposal that can be made ? like these , we definitely need to update the qur'an in authentication for services that are available in the virtual space we definitely need the works that are presented, if this happens, the vertical part of the violations

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