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in tehran, the sunset will be at 179:00, the maghrib call to prayer will be at 18:00, and the sharia midnight will be at 23:36 . please , thank you, mr. zorian, in the name of god , greetings, politeness and respect. all special viewers of the higher election program , we are at your service with another debate, with the fact that there are two sides to this issue, like all other debates , we are at your service with the current way of holding elections in sports federations, a range of experts are against the constitution that has been prepared, and naturally they are on the opposite side of the range, who consider this method to be a good and logical method . we will have a debate on this issue . in electing
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a strong parliament, the key is in the hands of the people, the iranian coach sharaf iran is playing a telegram with the whole country . why is your question an interesting question in these six months ? you are special for the election program and one another debate , of course, we have another sports debate for you. the leader of the revolution in his recent meetings
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called the real competition one of the important pillars of the election, which means that the field should be open for the presence of different political, economic and cultural viewpoints so that all viewpoints can be all the differences that they have should form a real competition in the big election contest and have an active presence in this field. one of the topics that different experts have different views on, and different experts have different opinions, as i told you, the discussion. statutes of sports federations. and the method of holding the elections is the one that is questioned by the critics and the supporters say that with the changes that have been made and since we had the assignments in the past , now that we have come to the elections , we were able to make special changes and basically we are closer to justice. but the other side has another opinion , please stay with us for more details in the debate of this part from above, thank you.
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hosseini, the former head of the labor federation, is present here as an opponent, while greeting god , i ask for permission to meet with mr. amir hosseini. let me start with the question of what is the main reason for your opposition. federation elections will be held in the name of allah , the most merciful, the most merciful. i would also like to greet the guests of our dear friend, mr. dr. alinejad, as well as the esteemed viewers. islamic during the time of the late mr. shah hosseini to organize sports federations. for
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the first time, they told the elites of each sport to gather and elect the head of the federation, but the first atmosphere of the revolution was such that the nationalization of clubs and the so-called nationalization of all sports affairs continued, therefore, in the following periods, when the late mr. haj mustafa dawoodi was dawoodi shamsi agha. mr. ahmed dargahi, mr. ghafouri, mr. hashemi's assumption was that the selection of the presidents of the federations was by appointment, that is, the selection of each president of the federation was done by the head of the organization. at the end of mr. hashemi's tenure in 1978 , i was the cultural vice president of the physical education organization at that time. it was also brought up in the council of deputies , and we
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came to the conclusion that a new statute should be given. a group of so-called elites can be more armed than this. that the president of the organization wants to choose, so a new statute was written and this statute was approved by the government board, but with the change of mr. hashemi, this statute did not last for less than 6 months, and the next president, mr. mehralizadeh, came to exert another influence twice. applying the statutes and adding the 10th article to the statutes that took the dismissal of the presidents of the federations upon themselves, and this dismissal caused the application of political tastes and such, and 17 presidents of the federation and changing the election of the olympic committee.
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it led to the removal of the head of the olympic committee and the iranian ic member, but what was expected was that in a government that was reforming and claimed civil society, these civil institutions, which are sports federations , were respected. but we saw that during the same period, unfortunately , chih tesadi gret and interference continued. but what i object to is the way the elections of the federations are held, that is, it is in this way that the head of the federation, who is elected anyway , the head of the federation then goes to choose the head of the delegation, then the general director of physical education of the province is the head of the delegation. the head of my delegation is selected by the head of the federation, so to speak, after two times, this is a
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designed type of election, but what should be original is that in the election of the head of the federation, the executive method should be effective for all the beneficiaries there. what are sports fans ? there are athletes, there are coaches, there are clubs. these should play a much more important role. anyway, during the time when mr. dr. alinjad was the vice president of sports, he also held 20 elections. but this method of implementation was a method that was still current during his period. one it was the procedure, thank you, mr. alinjad. you agree with the fact that the ceremonial elections of the federations are held in the name of mr. hosseini or not, in the name of allah , the most merciful . in fact, we
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had a serious upward leap in the field of sports governance in 1978, when the previous statute of sports federations changed from appointment to election. i am also supplementing this statute according to the instructions of mr. doctor , which was approved by the islamic council it was established that in 1976, non-governmental public institutions that were included in 73 laws were added to them in 76 sports federations and it was announced there. it was that the federation of public non-governmental organizations and its constitution must be approved by the board of ministers, therefore , based on this 78, this constitution was formed, just as 81 was mentioned, there was a change , which was contrary to the spirit of the election, and it
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was a very wrong and wrong thing that the problems it created something serious for iran's sports, of course, rome had another reform in 2012, which was not a serious reform during the time of mr. abbasi, he was the minister, but the main point is this. in the following years, due to this incident, many of our federations were suspended and serious problems were created due to the interference of the government, which is one of the serious red lines that exist in the world in the field of sports. the intervention of the government started in 1985, when the suspension of the open football federation was formed because of the use of this clause. and fifa came in and analyzed iran's football and a new statute in the football federation started to be written at the same time , the thought was created that we should change the statutes of that type of federations as well. mr. engineer aliabadi started some measures
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, then mr. saeed do abbasi, dr. guderzi, they all wanted to change the statute, but nothing actually happened until mr. soltani appointed a working group headed by mr. davar. i was in that working group, interestingly, mr. poladgar , who became the deputy champion after me, in this government , he was also a member of that working group, mr. esbaghian , who is now the vice president of championship sports, was also a member of the working group, which means that we were actually four vice presidents of championship sports , all of us were members of this working group from 2016 until now. and we had many meetings for about 7 or 8 months and this statute we approved the current one and presented it to the council of deputy ministries, then it went to the council of ministers in 2018, in march 2018, this statute was approved. based on article 85 of the constitution, the guardian council has an
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interpretation that they must approve the statutes of sports federations, which are public non-governmental organizations, as well as the olympic committee. until may 1400, it took nearly a year and a half for the guardian council to check this . government re-introduction it was approved in behesht in 1400 , it remained in the guardian council for two months, and in july 1400 , the guardian council approved it. therefore, the current statute is approved by the council of ministers and approved by the guardian council. friends raised objections to the approval of this, and now , god willing, mr. doctor will say in their orders , i will answer. in my opinion, considering the problems that the previous statute created for
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us, which i will explain, in the next section, we will again make a serious move. we had a very good time both honorable men mentioned a history of my colleagues in the sports group of sada vasima news agency. i also prepared a report on the same topic . it was then that the new statutes of sports federations came into effect. the statute , the key to its changes , was approved by the council of ministers in october 2018 and was referred to the guardian council for final approval in december of the same year, and after 20 months of research and review, it was approved in july 1400 and sent to the ministry of sports for implementation. the mountaineering and climbing federation was the first federation whose elections were held with a new mechanism was established. with a new shape. let's talk about the elections, including that everyone should vote secretly from the chairman.
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although a working group consisting of sports experts was formed to prepare the statutes, but for the first time, this statute will be implemented, which, god willing , will open the way and the movement will be smooth for the next election . . many people prefer to know each other. do this as a team now, in the position of chairman , deputy chairman, and say these things before the start, in fact the talk of the candidates is the time to accept the resignation. according to the new constitution, the process of holding the election assembly of the federations starts 4 months before the end of the president's term. this space is at their disposal and not at the disposal of the other candidates . until the sound of protests. regarding the arrangement of the members of the assembly and the influence of the chairman, rise up. the number of votes
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increases so much that the heads of the delegations are not decisive. until the moment i was speaking, i didn't know who the members of the assembly were that i could vote for. although the condition of holding a full implementation assembly articles of the constitution, but on the day of the meeting, the quorum of the meeting was not observed. mixed votes of the gymnastics federation for the presidential election. the federation had only 26 votes, which is in line with paragraph one of article 15 of the constitution of the sports federations of the islamic republic of iran and the answer of the former deputy minister of sports to all these ambiguities and uncertainties that we are not the organizers of the elections at all, the federations themselves are organizing the elections. varzandeh of sed and sima news agency, yes, the report of my colleague mrs. varzandeh. we saw it together, mr. amir hosseini, what do you think? look , what is very important is the way of execution. now this
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the new statute has come, but the relations are going in the same direction, that is, according to the law, the goals of the organization of the ministry of sports and youth, article 13, says support, supervision and coordination of the activities of all sports institutions , such as the olympic committee. the duty of the ministry of sports, but the ministry of sports, when an election wants to be held somewhere. it shows that they are seeking to exercise their opinion and taste. now, whether it was in the era of mr. dr. alinejad or later, we are witnessing that, for example, in the case of gymnastics, it was a problem in the case of two fields. it was not a sport
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the table was set, what is the election delayed , this is one of the problems and one of the problems. in my opinion, it is that we were not able to fulfill the basic spirit of the constitution, which is collective wisdom, and to attract all classes. for this, mr. president of the federation, there is a conflict of interest. in some of these elections, the head of the federation is appointed, and that head can then to be selected or not. and these are some of the conflicts in the implementation, in my opinion , we have very serious problems in the way of implementation . mr. alinejad, do you agree? we have problems with our implementation. i would like to explain that i could not
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hold any elections with this statute, that is, all the elections that i held were with the statute after this statute was promulgated in july 1400 until the day when i became the vice president. i was in the new government for three to four months. no elections were held. i held the preparations for 10 elections, but i was not the organizer of any elections. therefore, every election i held was based on the previous constitution, which had some problems. not we went to find out what the problems were, now let me enter. it was by the minister, which was the intervention of the government . the next issue was that the representatives of coaches, referees and athletes, the number of which was very small compared to now, was also determined by the vice president of championship sports. there are two clubs, but as
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you mentioned, they should have a much stronger presence. this was also confirmed by the vice president of the championship. that is, this created a problem , on the other hand, due to the fact that this election and dismissal, that is, the dismissal was the responsibility of the minister , it was possible to leave a supervisor, in my opinion, with this current constitution , there is no possibility of leaving a supervisor, which is happening now, in my opinion. the statutes are not respected. now we have come to fix all this in this new statute. the members of the assembly increased from 45 people to almost 70 people. coordinating this number for those who are responsible in the ministry of sports in order to actually make the elections the way they want is very important.
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it becomes more difficult. all clubs of the premier league of the relevant field are present in the men's section. 5. women's premier league clubs are present, the athletes have become 6, and the commission was formed for the first time in the federations , the athletes' commission chooses them, not the deputy minister, the coaches' commission was formed, four coaches are chosen by them, the referees' commission was formed , de tavero they choose for the first time that we are practicing democracy in this way , that is, the non-governmental public institution that we had has its public institution by having these commissions in it. in fact, it is moving forward, but the fact that it was not implemented well, in my opinion , it was not implemented well, which means that the provisions of your statute were not complied with in many cases. we wanted to hold elections in the same 10 federations that we had specified, but it did not happen during my term
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. according to the constitution, the time of the elections was determined to be 10 days before the elections, and they announced that this would be postponed. the week is delayed, it is not possible at all , because according to the statute, 45 days before any time it should be announced that those elections in rome, if anyone went to complain, they would be annulled, but as you saw, they went to complain about karate elections , gymnastics elections, horse riding elections , wrestling elections, deaf elections, all of them are now annulled initially in the court of justice and judicial courts, this is poorly implemented. we don't say to my servant or dr. amir hosseini, the lawmaker, and the one who actually has the judicial system says that the judicial system is canceling these elections. can for the first time , the previous government had the honor of taking this power from the minister . this is a very important point for him to be able
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to dismiss the president of the federation. dear mr. amir hosseini, do you believe that the constitution is good and the constitution is implemented badly? this has been resolved, but in my opinion, the big problem is the execution. you see, during the tenure of dr. hamid sajjadi , many people were appointed as supervisors twice , which means that a lot of damage was done. you who during the period of mr. sajjadi, there was an effort to prevent this federation from growing . for one year, the federation was run by two supervisors, and this is the least of the interferences that exist even in the federations
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. it was seen in the ministry of sports. in my opinion , the biggest problem now is what is the ministry of sports itself . according to this law, the objectives and duties of the physical training organization are the tasks of organization, supervision and support. this, but once you look at the president of the federation who has 4 years of experience as the president of the federation, he was the secretary of the federation for 4 years and how many years was the manager. it was so called sports, they say that you should have had a work experience of 5 years, for example, a regulation and instructions have been issued that actually hinder progress . it was that the labor sports community all trusted the same
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so-called previous candidate, well, with an absolute majority, now 48 votes will be elected, but after a gap of one year , who wants to answer? our biggest problem is that all the development plans, for example, about this is the election of provincial boards well, again, we don't see the same independence now, and that is that, for example, the delegations should be organized by the clubs, by zain afghan, again , what
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do you see about the interference of the general manager? however , we have very serious problems in the implementation method and we should practice democracy in this sense. we should respect the collective wisdom and interact with each other. the big goal is the development of sports in the country . iran is in the constitution, for example , there should have been a guarantee of better executions, the constitution would have been written better. i thought that the big problem is the officers . now, mr. doctor, you can see that mr. alinejad's body is more involved in the explanation. this statute has the international criteria and indicators that it should have, that is , the government's intervention has been removed. in the previous statute, it said that certain regulations should be written after the approval
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of the pledging organization, after the approval of the pledging organization , everything after the approval. there was an approximate organization , this has now been deleted, here you have no role for the ministry of nimishid pointed out in his speech that we are not the executive at all. it is true that the secretary of the federation is the executive secretary of the executive assembly, but did this actually happen ? was it the ministry of sports that decided when the election would be, or the secretary of the assembly announced, so there was really a problem in the implementation if the implementation was not a problem because this number of courts of justice did not invalidate the elections. by the way, the law is a good law. the statute is a good statute, but if the good statute is not implemented properly , it creates problems. i am talking about the fact that the ministry of sports always knew its right, which actually had an arrangement. ok, don't act. make a comment this is a fact in the past, it happened in our time, and it is the same now, but it is very important that we follow the legal rules, which means that we
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do our best in our era. we did it, even though we knew that the constitution was flawed and in fact it was a constitution that tied our hands somewhere to respect democracy . before the meeting, we held two field elections . apparently, it was a proper election and it was done at the beginning of corona. a number of people because of now i don't have to worry about corona. in the next meeting, one of the heads of the delegation protested that the person who came was not my person, this is not my signature, we checked, he is right, we came in less than a week, we said sir , there was something wrong with this election and we annulled it , we had the courage to say that if we made a mistake somewhere, let's retreat from it, we followed the law, we didn't violate any of the regulations , i strongly disagree with this discussion of the supervisor, which i mean
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, we really tried our best to have the least number in our course, i was delivering the course i was in the ministry of home affairs, together with its deputy, has been replaced by a new person. 3 federations have 17 or 18 supervisors. it is interesting that in this new constitution , it is basically not allowed to appoint a supervisor . see where it is allowed to put a supervisor. for any reason , he is dismissed by the assembly or has an unjustified absence of more than 3 months. either resign or there is a judicial ruling, which means that a party cannot be the president of the federation. it is only in these cases that the president of the assembly can temporarily be the head of the federation for 6 months. now the term of the president of the federation is over. can they put a supervisor in his place , no one has such a permission, no one has given such a permission , we have come correctly according to the relevant letters, 70 days and 45 days, i apologize for 45 days.
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which was in the past, in the previous regulation, which created problems for us , we changed it to 120 days before the election, the election process must start, in 120 days , everything can be done . can be observed, why did we wait for these 120 days, because in the period when the party has not finished its presidential term, elections are held, which is what in the world, what we do in our own elections is done, isn't the parliament election coming up now? march 11, well, the parliament will end in june, the members of the parliament will now be candidates for the presidential election. when a presidential term ends, one of the presidents will be the organizer of the next round of elections, and in the meantime, what is he a candidate for, no one there says conflict of interest , conflict of interest well, we have to hold elections on time , it is very wrong to remove the power and unfortunately, we have 17 or 18 federations now.
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do you agree with the election of sports federations? yes or no? arash farhadian, former head of sports federations joint affairs office. the statutes of sports federations should not conflict with the internal laws of the country, and the current statutes are approved by the board of ministers and the guardian council, and we must act accordingly. kiomers hashemi, minister of sports and youth. the era when sports federations all have a single statute. it is the past.
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we should be able to formulate its own specialized statute for each federation by using the domestic legal capacities of the country and by using the capacities of sports federations. seyyed reza fizabadi, sports expert. the current statute that electoral assemblies sports federations are organized based on it, maybe it is not comprehensive and complete, but its correct implementation by the executives is important in elections and is consistent with meritocracy. in any case , a statute is necessary to hold assemblies to prevent the influence and relationship of the games, and i believe that the current statute of the speech season is for all federations and should be implemented properly. god bless you before football. our constitution regarding the election of the head of the federation is wrong. of my 80 members.

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