you are with the higher debate, mr. taheri , what is your opinion , how should the city of azad university be determined? azad university and non-profit universities should determine their own cities as they are now, or should another body come in , such as the competition council and the competition council. do it in the name of allah, the most merciful, the most merciful. greetings and i have a good time. i am serving you and the respected viewers. if you allow me, since two days have passed since the election on march 11, i would like to express my gratitude to the noble people for their presence and the epic that they created and the real winner of this election. my man. to be honest, my servant

the program that sedasima broadcasted was for the debates in our province and also the coverage of candidates' advertisements, i was not very optimistic . for the next years, a change in advertising costs can be seen. gary was wonderful, i mean really comparing the people especially in the debates and the answers to the questions and the understanding that i had of the candidates and the debates that were done, in my opinion it was a valuable work. i hope it will be better with the feedback that will be given. it was a huge development for the next years and god willing , i hope this work will continue. regarding your question, i know a few introductions

that i need to say . the first is that the number of students that are actually needed according to the capacity of public universities , a large part of them, maybe more than half of them, have to study in educational institutions that require tuition fees, and they definitely want to do this. we have about 40% of studies in our payam noor university there is a second time and so on, and they pay an amount from that side. wherever we are forced to do something, suppose you have to buy a product , and the price, whether it is a service, a tuition fee , or a product, should be based on the supply. if the maker wants to determine, he can definitely do damage.

and it seems to me that there is a need for a regulator so that the rights of the people and those who want to study are not lost. now what form should this regulator take? the ones that the competition council has, the damages that are in the price there have been mandates in other places, what have they been and which part of higher education is now competitive and which one is forgiving. it is very exclusive and has customers. it is a discussion that i want to enter in the future , god willing, to have a specialized discussion , god willing. please see if you have a chance. first of all, in the introduction, i want to talk about the competition council. i think there is room for a higher meeting about this infrastructure. for every place where we think there is a need for regulation and breaking victory, you can now see how the performance of the competition council can be given in different departments. to the members of the competition council

let's give an acceptable grade, but i don't give an acceptable grade to the council 's performance, and i have a reason. i confirmed that the performance of this council in de-monopolization and in places where there is no competition, did it benefit the people , did it benefit the supply sector, for example, the producer , or let's say the university , i will not give an acceptable score, that is, if the competition council is going to enter find it, i mean, the competition council itself it needs a pathology and correction, however , the whole issue of whether the universities that charge tuition should determine the amount of tuition themselves , this

is not the right thing. if he chooses , he has to take this service at the price that is offered, which is the education and research provided by the university and from onor. the supplier of this benefit can pay any price, he has overhead , the interest rate is not high, he has extra professors, extra classes , extra employees, he wants to say all these things. sir, i have money, we have to give students , there is definitely a need, but with what tool now , is there an acceptable tool like the answerable competition council ? what do you say? your opinion is that the university and other universities of azad university and other non-profit universities should determine the tuition fees of those universities themselves or the competition council should do this. in the name of allah , the merciful, the merciful, i offer my greetings and courtesy to

the dear viewers and guests of the program and the dear ones who are in this they are trying to find out about the education system of the country. now, those of you who are discussing more about azad university, what about non-governmental higher education centers and universities and the government universities themselves, which take almost no less night courses than azad university in other places? i believe that we do not have a special order in the tuition department. that is, the type of services they provide, the type of educational services they provide, and the type of income they earn are not compatible with each other, and yes , the parliament should enter into the belief, of course, in in the educational case, we have a council, the provincial council

, the national council , they determine per capita in the general education systems of the country, but in the university system and non-governmental education centers. and the government doesn't have a regular structure that the tuitions they receive from the people are subject to a rule and a rule, which is a standard anyway, and this is the reason why sometimes you see that the universities in the form of they themselves and the university system are changing themselves. shahriar 20% increase by 10% is a cause of concern for both students and families, i believe the competition council too. there is no council that has the expertise to enter the field of the country's education system, because in the country's education system, if we are going to define the per capita, we have to go to the different fields

of study, for example , you are studying in the technical field. those who study in the field of humanities and those who study in the field of political sciences are different from each other, so we need a series of languages. according to the conditions of the country's education system, the universities are different according to the criteria in all universities according to the type of services provided by the university. in addition, let's calculate them . at the moment, in our educational system , i do not believe that the competition council should go to this department . it is definitely educational, and the educational services they are providing to the students should be decided in another group. take it and

it is one of the necessities, as soon as we can , you either pass the law in the parliament, or the worthy government presents it, and then the government implements its rules. write, i believe that this is the embarrassment that exists in the educational system of receiving a city from the educational system . they take the students of free zones , they take the students of saiq university, they take them, and different departments, i believe, should have a summary of these and make policies in the field of tuition. thank you, mr. taheri. how much? in your opinion, the status of azad university and other non-profit universities is the same market, their market is monopolistic , in your opinion, is it considered a competitive market? now , we did not have much disagreement regarding the doctor's orders

. educational services means free university institutions and private ones loneliness did not determine the price. he also accepted this in the discussion about who should do this work, which we also agree on. i said that one of the pathologies in competitive councils is that the situation is more legal than technical. this is not the issue, you should go to the car now and see if the competition council is really functioning well or not. one of the indicators here where the monopoly market has been recognized is entry pricing or actually destroying the manufacturer or the consumer, which is really nothing. time for a balanced path and the necessary tools to deal with it there was no regulation, that is , there was regulation at one time, but in practice, the supplier did not comply. the position of the competition council

was like a prosecutor who did not have the ability to enforce the verdict until he was somewhere, then he was cut and this could not be done. the other side is actually a kind of government, that is, its budget is from the government and the restrictions that it has not been able to achieve , there is a consensus on the effectiveness of this, but we should leave the work to the university board itself. the tuition fee of azad university should be determined, i disagree with this, there must be an institution that is like you in the discussion of economy and our industry. we have a council whose job is actually to support the consumer and the producer, which means that there should be a producer of the air , the consumer and producer support organization should be something like this here, that is, a training provider and a provider of those who provide these services. they take in fact, both sides have their own way. azad university once

had a lot of students. you have developed many units . you have many employees. not to him it is a research form, there is no connection with industry, no project is taken from outside, not that it is zero, but the number is very small. the places of free and non-profit universities, well, the fact is that it once developed and attracted such a large number of people and we have a lot of overhead. students, should these 20 students provide the salaries of that part of the professors, which were supposed to be 200 at one time? well, it is not right for us to come and say that our expenses are so much. stomach to our existing students, productivity , for example, there have been mistakes in the past, or the cost

of public universities has increased, or now for any other reason, so the need for regulation and the fact that we must have the students' atmosphere is an inevitable thing, according to you, their market is an exclusive market. and you must see the competition as exclusive . they should either have two paths or they should not continue their education in the university and post-graduate studies and with a diploma, for example, enter the society. they have to go and do this, if they are going to study, there is no other path because it is full, when the path is full, this becomes exclusive . you have no other path. there was no door. in the current situation , we have master's degree and doctoral degree. from my

point of view, there is a monopoly, and the places where more regulation is needed, the doctorate is needed more, because the demand is much higher than the supply, the customer is much more. it is better to have regulation postgraduate education should be in master's degree or doctorate. because there is relatively less monopoly in this field and there are empty seats in universities that are so-called public universities or where there is a lot of competition that can attract customers because of the price, but this is not the case at all in postgraduate education and the demand is very high for government employees, people who with a bachelor's degree , those who are interested in continuing, usually have a bigger market . or do they have a competitive market?

i believe that this is a matter of regulation i said that i agree with the plan, but i believe that it means that if we are going to be really orderly and have an excellent supervision , any services in the field of education should be done. even the assessment of the assessment organization means that it takes tests and prepares a figure by itself, and people keep protesting that, sir, they really provide so much service to these figures that they take this amount of money from the people to conduct an entrance exam. in short, people are arguing about it. now that we are coming , i said that i am only interested in the private sector, azad university, and one of the problems in our country is that the government miad means

that he is constantly fighting with the private sector. i agree with your opinion. i say that the government services are also providing educational services . he should regulate the competitors strictly. in principle , those who have an interest, such as the ministry of science or medical sciences, do this. i remember about last year that the ministry of science, the board of trustees of one mustafa, vowed that any student who wants to be transferred, especially in the field of medical sciences. at the beginning, i must tell you that the city paid a heavy price well, in any case, a student is trapped in a poor family, or his parents are dependent on him, and he has to work , in short

, he has to pay for his own family. we are transferring medical sciences to you. we were asking them where they got this law from, because you see , those who have benefits, such as the field of medical sciences of the ministry of science, take a series of resources from the people , which i believe are the same. they don't give enough services . now we want to bring order to azad university non-government universities, night section , public universities, departments, even entrance exam classes, classes that are for the entrance exam, up to the podomani courses that the ministry of science both authorizes and conducts. i believe that podomani courses are any type of educational services that we provide in this country. we want a regulatory body, now a regulatory council , which is specialized in the field of education and supervises the field

of medical sciences, the ministry of science, other departments, even education, and i believe that this will be done in an orderly manner, and the people will agree with they pay easily and the answering line of the device is also responsive that the amount of the city that is considered based on the type of services that they provide, because now, currently, those who own oil are the regulators themselves, this has created an awkwardness in the discussion of cities , which i believe is now in the education and research commission this discussion. finally, a general law should be approved and the government should set the regulations and manage this matter of cities in the same way with a regularity, and the people should feel comfortable that they are paying tuition for their city instead of the services that are educational services.

excuse me, i had a question for my doctor mr. doctor, it is a debate, yes, see. mr. dr. ma, the entry of the government into the private sector and the regulation of the issues that were raised, one point is closed here , and that is the quality of education and research in non-government educational centers . there may be an exception. whether the bright spots are everywhere or the opposite, i am telling the result and i am sharing an experience a little further away in teaching that i had for one semester at the azad university. they go here, so to speak, but in the end

, the quality of education and research is affected because of the profit debate. it is very low. i remember one time, of course, it was long ago, maybe it was 20 years ago . i was studying in azad university for a semester . i used to present electric cars in the car laboratory. well, when i visited every test session, they said that not here, for example. from 16 to 17 training sessions, for example, two or three more sessions , they summarize everything in one session. we did not talk about destroying or providing bodies everywhere we had very good points, but this is also one of the headlines. regarding tuition fees, we should not only pay attention to the 140-unit case, for example, for a bachelor's degree, or for example, the project it has, the quality of the education of the outgoing articles, and

i want to ask you how much our graduates from these departments can actually graduate. to be effective, to be useful , we have to take into account the price. and the tuition fees that we determine are more per unit, practical and theoretical and assuming that means we do not consider that quality parameter. i would like to give you an example. consider schools or kindergartens, if we were to consider the existing model , we should not consider the quality, they should all be the same price, but we have seen that there are different cities in the schools depending on the educational quality, otherwise they are all supposed to be the same. the books that mention education, for example, study the minimum, but we can see that

it is different depending on the different services . the discussion is pointless, the regulatory body must have an entry in this part as well, sir kouchini nejad, if you also tell me that in your opinion, azad university and other non-profit universities, i would like to hear from you, are their markets monopolistic or competitive? no, today , i believe, neither azad university nor non-governmental higher education centers and applied science centers like we have an applied science center that is licensed by the university of applied science, we have a higher education center that is licensed by the ministry of science and the higher education office, and azad university also has its own

management system. it is not an exclusive time it means that there is a competitor of azad university, and for example payamounor university, payamounor university is also a university that is a private university. i believe that we should pay attention to this part, that is, the type of training that they provide, for example, in technical schools, for example, in the technical schools of these schools, the type of equipment they have, not in the post-graduate education, there is a debate, you are now a ph.d. no matter how much azad university you read the rest of the collection, you will know that there are still some people who are left out

of the basic technical department in the technical department of azad university, even they are studying at the doctorate level. he is also studying in the night course of the government

. they have a competition with each other, the type of equipment, the type of training , the definition of competition is that we are your supply. when you say monopoly , it means that you become a monopoly when what you supply is less than the demand and so on. he has a client, under any circumstances, you can set any price, take whatever tuition you like , now you double the doctor's fees . again, he has a client, this will become a monopoly, that means there is no other place for him to turn to. why not, see, it is a debate that you see once that you say that azad university is a monopoly doctorate course, you see once, no, this monopoly is in the hands of azad university, not only the university.

we are going to monopolize only the government, the private sector is very weak, this becomes the monopoly of the government, what it produces, it says that it costs 100 tomans per kilowatt, we are publishers, let's accept it, when there is competition , the private sector will come in, it will also produce electricity , this will become our competition now. we do not have a monopoly in the field of higher education. the open knowledge of the open universities of the open universities of payam noor shabana should increase the tuition fees for seniors by 10 times. does the person who has too much demand and is forced to study , does he have another solution? he has to go and study this. monopoly well, this is true, no, yes, look, this is true , this means monopoly, for example, how many public universities, azad university, payamour university , have doctoral programs, but i say that there is competition between these courses, the monopoly is that there is none.

a new collection does not come in. a collection is doing something, it is a monopoly and it says that i am doing this work. it is done at the price of 500 tomans. we are publishers, so let us accept 500 tomans because the competition is a monopoly. once it is created, the competition affects the quality. the type of education has an effect. now , in the field of the ministry of science, there is a competition between azad universities payamonoor university, state universities , and applied science universities have this competition , which means that we do not have a monopoly in the field of education, but what is the problem now is the type of service they provide , the type of fees they charge, the fees they charge, and the type of fees they charge. a university determines for itself, this monopoly must really be broken, a collection under any title, now in the automobile sector, there is a competition council

here. come up with another name to organize this country's education system from preschool to doctorate and organize them in the form of items. he should pay attention to the type of training they give, even the type of workshops they have in the technical field, because you know that training in the humanities is cheap but in the technical part it is very expensive . you see, i don't mean that now the tuition fees of non-governmental institutions are high or low, that is our second issue, which should be the method of discussion . it is not a question of high or low. friends may now argue that it is not possible to present this discussion at all. we did not discuss here whether this is exclusive. or not and with this

the way that exists now, if the prices have been increased or if there is a solution, i say no, you come now, for example, say, i am a phd student , i want to take this city that is now , come, say, sir, i want to take, for example, twice as much. anyone who wants to study here has a choice. i say that the total capacity of postgraduate education in the country is clear, the applicant is also clear, yes, finally, one who has the talent. it is taking more time, maybe the government has been accepted and now, but in the end, the demand is much higher than the supply in graduate school , so in such a place, you really have to pay that price. which is reasonable and appropriate to the quality of education and the unnecessary overheads that different universities may have, which is not the fault of the student who wants to study in places like the

competition council or the ministry of science or now. whichever institution is responsible for organizing this should take it and this cost should be removed from the shoulders of the students. very well, if you agree , let 's go and see a report together. taheri is a representative of the islamic council in some universities non-governmental organizations cannot operate, and this issue creates a monopoly, and as a result, the entry of the competition council must be done. mr. ali amraei, member of the transparency and justice watch training commission. currently, the determination of tuition fees by non-government universities has caused protests by students, and a regulatory body such as the competition council should enter this market. mr. mert.