we do not agree that the top is higher than the bottom or higher today, wherever we are, he said. you are with the higher debate here in our studio, mrs. zahra saeedi mubarakeh, the elected representative of the people of isfahan in mubarakeh district, as the opponent of the issue that i presented to you, and mr. ali babaei karnami , the elected representative of the people of mazandaran, sari district, mian darood, as the supporter of the issue that i presented to you , yes lotfi you are saying that you should do it. in the meantime , god bless both the guests of the program. i would like to start with mrs. saeedi and the question, where does your opposition to the elimination of the high-paid assistants come from? it comes and what is the reason? in the name of god

, i offer greetings, politeness and respect to you, your respected colleagues , the good and honorable people of the islamic republic of iran, the patient and hardworking people of mobarakeh. well, one main issue is that we call this money that we want to give for subsidy as financial aid, which should be from anyway , government revenues will come, but especially since we are currently paying this subsidy from oil money , and that's it. it's a shame and we can't be a representative of something that belongs to the general public and decide whether to give it for money or not. the most important issue is that we we represent both the rich and the poor. the problem is from another place, which i will explain. we have to give the subsidy to the general public because it is inefficient, but that is another discussion.

owning, working, producing, serving, and becoming a capitalist is good and halal for them, the location of that capital and the source of their money is at the discretion of the food system. the food system determines whether the source of their sources is the right money or the wrong money, but what we want from a depriving that person of his right because of his possession is a mistake there is business. in fact, he increases his own capital to be taxed. we cannot make problems with our payment system because the party has money. there is money, we have to tax it. you know who has money in france. and he is living in a nice place in france , he has a house of his own. because he is living in a good place in france , he gives 60-70% of his happiness. but unfortunately, i don't know , i had an interview a few years ago. i said that we have someone

who has 200 empty houses, which of course was about cgt or capital id tax that i proposed. we prepared it and brought it to the previous parliament and we worked very hard to get this cji or capital id tax approved. of course, when you want a law not to be implemented, you have to put the law somewhere, leave a loophole for the people to reject it, if the people reject it and the people don't come to you. register the system, then the law will not be implemented . we are wondering if this subsidy is a help, because it is public property, should we give it to everyone or not ? i say give it to everyone, but after the one who used the subsidy more than the limit, because you know, the money for water, gas and electricity is not worth it. we know that the government is paying subsidies so that someone can build 100 houses, for example , the one who built 100 houses, the one who owns a thousand houses, the one who owns a few cars of 10 billion tomans, unfortunately, we

have a look at the tax. we are saying that tax is a means of income, not tax, from a scientific point of view , it should have a control point of view, that is, we should tax the one who has, maybe we should not give him much more than what is the size of one share, and we don't want to tax him, this is the issue. another issue is the underground economy and tax evasion it is being done, and i will talk about it in the continuation of our conversation and i will have something to say. maybe we should shake up the structure of our country, this economic view, the economic attitude that has been treated in our country , create a paradigm shift in the framework of the system's values, and make it clear with a paradigm shift, an internal revolution in the discussion of our economy, an underground economy. we are convinced that the number in the economy is changing, it is not a number , but a few. the research of great professors of economics

is done, but i am strongly against that we come in the discussion, firstly, from the point of view of traditional shari'ah, we cannot make a decision to see at your disposal. yes, peace be upon him, he had the authority from the treasury, it is true that he gave more to the low-income earners, but i do not have a representative or an expert who can make a change in the matter of anfal's view of the shari'a and legal view of this issue. i will talk about it further . thank you, mr. babaei. how much do you agree with mrs. saeedi's statements? in your opinion , yes, yes, in the name of allah, the merciful, the merciful, first. i thank the noble people of iran for being present most of them in the elections of the islamic council and leadership experts responded to the call of their leadership and

thank the noble nation of iran for doing a great job of supporting the system and the officials. re-trust us in fact, but about the discussion that i served today. contrary to the opinion of dr. saeedi, who is also one of the good representatives, let me tell you that i fundamentally disagree that the source of this income is not the government's income at all. in my opinion, iran had made some commitments based on those indicators of justice. you should check the resources of the country's budget. at all, there is room for a deep debate, we do not reach the subsidy at all, it is not called a subsidy at all, we have decided that in the country, with the view of justice, the lower strata of the society are opposed to the lower strata of the society from any point of view, until we actually reach those indicators of justice and opportunities. equal

to reach a suitable point. now, before we call it subsidy, what did we give , what did we give to those people, in the end , it did not give anything to the so-called people from the lower decks of the society. that's really it because today, when we use the facilities and infrastructure and there are many issues in the country today that we are using, unfortunately, we did not provide equal conditions for the upper and lower reaches of the society to call it subsidy. the objective of the subsidy was from the beginning, from the beginning, in the year . the day i think it was the 8th or 9th in the parliament, it was depicted in the name of the law on targeting subsidies. at that time, the debate was that, in fact , we spend everything we have in the country on gasoline. for example, are those who have more facilities going? they are better than us in this country , good lives have been prepared for them after at least after the revolution, but in fact, eight in the bottom decile

of the society have no share in this country. they make more effort based on the ones they have . it's not called friends, in my opinion , it's like giving points to a special group, that 's why i say that we should change the number with the index of the building. my children are trapped after a person called a capitalist, what is the economic rent of the country in this country? look, 160 , the unconscious opportunities of the government economy of that time gave some of the economic activists of our country that time when the dollar was 7. toman has given facilities to some people, he had political rent, the other party was dependent on a certain political current, so at that time he gave this opportunity to his name, in my opinion , he is not a real capitalist and investor in

the country. and infrastructure like your car is a porsche car look at a person who wants to buy a car like priyt in society, he wants to try for his life at least with himself. this equality of individuals and deciles of the society is in question in the society when we have a discussion about our basis and therefore , let's explain the 70 percent to whom should we give it, if we want to give it, it seems that with these indicators , i completely agree with the top percentile. it should be deleted, even in my opinion, the fourteen above should be deleted, however, in the following discussions, i will definitely have a serious objection to the discussion of indexing for tagging the society of today's employees.

let's design in the parliament, god willing, in the 12th parliament, i will continue to discuss how we , the members of the parliament, should design for the benefit of an index called justice and the gini coefficient in the country. the twelfth read better decisions. thank you, mrs. saeedi. please, i didn't understand the end . mr. babaei karnami , you objected to this work from the ground up, because the topic of our discussion is whether the high-income earner should get a subsidy or not. i say don't take it, now when you see anfala , the government should give to everyone, but take for everyone

okay, mr. dr. pajohian , dr. mimar nejad, that is, from four times to 7 shares, it has been announced that our real economy is four times to 7 shares, equal to this 7,000 shares. look, you and i are both rich representatives and poor representatives. it's true , what do people like? people like us to say

that we only support the lower middle class. what percentage of their lives is this subsidy? it is the person who has the money he is right, he says that there is no money for him at all, he gets this subsidy, but the problem here is that maybe we have to correct the structure, that we have the amount of money that is available to the people , and if we reach this conclusion, people's opinions will change at all. our discussion here

is that what has left a judgment in the society today is that it says that these seventy efforts are not necessarily oil revenue, it is not really . let's see a report and review let's see what the rest of the experts think . let's go back and find out. thank you abbas moqtadaei , the candidate elected by the people of isfahan, kohpai and harand. this number that is currently being subsidized is not that high and everyone can take it, there is no problem, we must fix the source of income and wealth creation. mohammad mahdi muftah, the candidate elected by the people in sarkan. i definitely agree with removing the subsidy for high earners. the logic of the subsidy is that the rich. they should not receive it and it should be for people who have low income

. the tithes are completely not calculated based on income facts, the subsidy of individuals should not be ruled out in any way. ali nikzad is the candidate elected by the people of ardabil, nair namin, and the subsidy of the high earners must be removed as soon as possible. this is the law and the 12th and 13th governments. they delayed the implementation of this law. upper deciles should not receive subsidies. mohammad bahrami saifabad, the candidate chosen by the people of bai rahmat, dana and margun. we have to talk honestly and transparently with people and raise resource and cost challenges. so that their high-income compatriots voluntarily refuse to receive subsidies. hamid rasai, the selected candidate people of tehran, ray and shemiranat. the removal of subsidies for high taxes is the law. but unfortunately. now the form of implementation of this law is not exact. now many compatriots receive subsidies that they shouldn't. well

, we saw the report together and reviewed the opinions of supporters and opponents of the issue we are debating. mrs. saeedi, please continue your statement. yes please well, i say we are stuck at one point now with dr. babaei karnami because of that. anyway , we have 10% of the society or now 20% of the society that we want to say not to subsidize them. 80% of me, well, it belongs to them , you are one of our problems. the country is that we are eliminating the middle class and this is a pain . you can see that the standard of living is really becoming two models, either middle to low or high, and we are rich and poor. the gap between the rich and the poor is increasing day by day. let's find out

and solve this problem , where do we have a gap in our economic structures? you can see it in the law. fight against smuggling and he says that if someone exchanges cash anyway , he will take my money this night, it belongs to him, it means that there are also dollars and coins. also, you can see if someone who does not have cash can do their transactions in this country or not. it is true that we have to deal with it. no, piles of money are not necessarily in the economy

. that's it. according to what law you mentioned. you see , we came here to clarify for the country , we currently have a superficial law in our parliament called the hefandi yarana law, which, unfortunately, is the basis of the law when it was updated . you

have the basis for iran's decision, just not saying yes to me the same mechanism, i said, i agree, because why these numbers should be in a centralized account, the system should

be replaced and explained to this person, i am against it, not that you bring this money , it will be the government's current expenditure income, i don't agree. i mean, i agree with hazm, this number should be, for example, 5 hamats per month, this number should come or, for example, two hamats per month , in one account, it should be for those who want justice in the country, who in fact want to replace the bad policies of the governments in different eras, for example, our we have 2 million unemployed university graduates, who in this country should the country solve their issues for them? in any case, they could not create a job for him , the world is a solution for them.

that's it, well, we approved in the 10th parliament to give 20% of the minimum salary of the labor department to the people covered by the relief committee. in the 10th parliament, we approved in the 6th plan that the parliament is obliged to state 20%

of the minimum salary of the labor department in the budget to the people covered by the relief and welfare committee . i want to see if we eat the greed of those groups, why are we in that parliament now that we have tried our best. at the end of the 10th parliament, we tried to keep this 20 percent aren't the other laws equal to the fact that we ignore them? after all, of course, these belong to a group of people who are covered . we were able to gain the satisfaction of several groups of people by allocating the same 20% . the pain i have, mr. engineer, do you know what it is, mr. doctor , engineer, forgive me, mr. bozor, yes, look, the pain i have is that we, the people who have unfairly

acquired us, want the rights of the retired. let's equalize, we say there is no budget, we want 20% at least we have the right to say the work, we say there is no budget , we want 10% of these people to whom we want to subsidize, they have the right to subsidize them, now we would like to see that we do cultural work , it is the duty of the government to subsidize the party, the father that i asked you was referring to mr. babaei according to the law, the cash subsidy for the high-income sector should be removed. it was the law now that it is the law , no. well, you are now asking an elected representative who wants to give his opinion . well , we are going to make reforms. do you agree that this should be corrected? yes, i do my opinion is that we should give a subsidy to that person . he has 10 houses. we should give him a subsidy . is this right based on

the number of his family members? for example, a couple with two children can have four houses of 250 meters. if he wants to have a house of 5 thousand meters , he should have it, but pay the tax on the extra 475 meters when he sells it, then who does this tax belong to, the tax belongs to the one who does not have a house, we have this cell. then i said you are at work. sometimes i still feel the pain because people like me can do it let's amend the law, but sometimes we have to do cultural and educational work in the parliament

. besides, i am of course against giving cash, we should give goods and services. can a number be determined for gasoline, for food, for clothing, for cultural work, for educational work, and according to that number, we can determine the level and give the size, of course, mr. doctor , talk to them about what i am talking about. of course, i studied industrial engineering, wherever you are do you want to discuss m. sidi's decision-making discussions? we will put a series of indicators , we will put a series of alternatives and options, we will rate these indicators, mr. doctor , there is something wrong with pointing out the indicators. i will sit down as a member of parliament with my personal taste. the letter that came to me will be kept for 6 months. of course, the

legislative representative cannot be in the executive position . one of our executives, from the security guard to the highest urinary officer, is not equal to him. how many days do i have to answer this letter? there is no balance for it, why yes? there is no balance for him, why this golden signature gives them the license of a stock exchange office. he doesn't give it to them , so the problem we have is these indicators. of course, i think you and i agree in this field that we are one, that our database is not really clear about our people. my bank account, if it is checked , no one knows how many dollars and how much gold i have. i am taking this pseudo-money in economic exchanges, and if you have more than 10 thousand dollars in cash , it is still a crime even in countries that are struggling with our economy. what do we do now with people who spend money in the middle of the night? they change and the poverty of the islamic republic of iran is in this underground economy. if

you look at it from an economic point of view, the one that has stem cells in the nano military missile industry, nuclear defense , is the first word in the world, then it has problems in its economy. we have to see where the pain is. our economy is an underground economy, and if we can reach this underground economy unanimously in these 4 years , we can have a conclusion for the general public. the earth. paying tax means after all, their incentive tools are such that i can fill the motivation of our investors to attract them. my goal is that he and i, mr. doctor, and all of us are representatives of the public . thank you, mr. bababai. do you agree that this is the law? finally, i agree with this discussion that before we decide whether to increase the subsidy , we should agree and disagree.

so, here, they are subsidizing him because he has a high economic income . in other places, the government is helping him. next question. i would say that if a person in isfahan has five houses in mazandaran , he has five houses every day, based on the same rules and regulations , he is using the prices of public services, he is like a worker, not an employee.

the work of an ordinary person is to say that we should amend the law, so that it remains low . do you agree that the law should be amended ? we should take the tax from him. i say that if we collect taxes, we will, of course, be in the parliament eleventh. the capital id tax law has been approved for implementation, the government says, i believe that this is the weakness of the government's implementation , unfortunately, for example, now the tax on the capital id can be understood , but it should be included on the capital id . we will pay everyone 10 tithes, if it has now been converted into percentages, if you see yourself, you said, mrs. saeedi, right when our economy

is not going normally.

the tax is placed in its place because we cannot base it on income, that is, assets in the country no, the priority is not the least, at least , because why, doctor, can i say, doctor, this is the income you are talking about, well, our banking system, our transactions are not completely clear and clear in our banking system . see, the pain we have is that if it was clear and clear, see, you are my income, zahra saeedi. congratulations . the one that is in the banking system, you can finally observe a pain that we have that cannot be traced, see the main pain that you should see if the 12th parliament is a pain that has been in this country for years, it will make our poor poorer. untraceable, the one i'm going with i do my work with dollars, i do my work with coins