so everyone is going because next year, in addition to the budget deficit that the government has approved in the government budget, which itself creates inflation , we have the expected inflation there once , it will bring another shock, he says, sir, if we we came and checked that from 1360 to last year 1401, the country's inflation rate and the minimum wage increase was around 3% , which has an effect on inflation, but since it is being blown , this story, especially by the media, who probably do not know the essence of this story, has caused it is possible that we have more problems, thank you mr. seifi, this concern has always existed on the part of the workers you mentioned the regional wage that it is possible that for workers in some regions of the country

, their salary is lower than the minimum that is determined every year, for example, does this happen or not? look, first of all, this need to be asked why we haven't done any proper research on this for 32 years, with the right data, we have so many doctoral theses, why doesn't the ministry of higher education decide right now to come and tell me, sir, in the area of ​​the livelihood basket of the gate of effects regional wages. we did this research on a country and even its effects on the country's economy it is not true. now the information that exists is being given. i said it in farsi. yes, it is true. the information that i want to provide is not true, and that is why not everyone makes a firm decision about this. second , i would like to see your discussion before i get there so that inflation in the country is not controlled. you can use any number for your rights.

it's useless to decide in the end . look, when you talk to many workers now, they say, "dad, i have the purchasing power of last year, so give me the same . well, it's not the employer's hand. anyway , if you pay today's dollar, for example, it will change from 50 tomans to 60 tomans." this effect may increase naturally in the fields of expected inflation in the country and real inflation, naturally, this causes that if we have an inflation of 10%, for example, or if we have 10% changes in the dollar, we will see 10% affect 20% in the market , because it also creates an expected inflation. so one thing is that you see, when all of us , according to the constitution, housing, education, treatment, and so on, a person must be given from the public income, when you don't have this in your country, well

, let's wish for a labor field from the employer. look at the region, we always talked about it, but we never wanted it with full will let's get into this matter, because when you enter with a will, you will come and count all of us , even the people that we have 21 million employed, this 21 million, it will be known how much of it is in the exact services, in what other companies, except for our two centers. we have an insurance that can cover this completely , how much of it is in industry, how much of it is in agriculture, how accurate it is in small businesses, where are these small tasks more abundant, which work can be done , sorry, the percentage is available in the statistics center, not the bingos separately . see how small the industry is, this is what the social security organization should give to the insurance organizations why should you give it? because you have to see the effects you want to give. what percentage of this population of 21 million is in your mother industry. converting them has no effect. your

method can do it at all. increase it by 50%. at least it has no effect. but what percentage of this is small in that industry? i have that example that is hurting, i have given this example many times, see that if this trade union becomes in accordance with the industry and the region, it will benefit the workers in terms of hand, yes, in the end , it will benefit the workers, see. unfortunately, in our society, we see that number , but we don't see its effects. many of the work laws that come to a province in the past are piloted at all, they are trying to make different decisions for the whole country, but i have a question. see, according to the current labor law of the country , see me from the point of view of business , see me from the point of view of livelihood.

i give the worker the right to welfare, i say, sir, the worker must have a condition to be able to live a full life. how much is this contribution from the employer? his share? let's separate this from the government sphere, that's right, we don't separate it here. when we say housing, treatment, education , it finds a high share in the government sphere. my question is, suppose you have a thousand unemployed people in sistan baluchistan today, an economic enterprise can go there to work, one enterprise or two enterprises or four enterprises. in this economic period, the economic justification of the company is not more than that, for example, it can pay 10 tomans more per month. it is true that my people are willing to do this. does our current labor law

allow it? why do i say 10 tomans? you know the minimum salary that is set. you do it for a worker for an employer until the end of the year. for the employer, over 16 million tomans will be spent for one person he hires there is no justification for mangar to do this, so what should he do? we should start this company , these thousand people should go to work or they should not do this, our current labor law says that this cannot be done. what do you think? look at the point

. in general, i have a problem with the worker's livelihood . in this situation, he should be helped to get an upgrade , but besides this, i would like to point out the general policies of the system regarding welfare and social security. sir, when this was announced in 1400 , then it should be submitted within 6 months of the executive order, but nothing happened, so it means that it was at the time when the government was in place. he was handing over the government. my new government had to deal with new affairs and especially the payment of the salaries of its own employees, which was not a very good situation . we went back like this, we talked, we studied

, and we said, "mr. govt. my working week last year was directly at the service of hajj mr. raisi." i said that it is a very good proposal, and later we gave it to the ministry. sir, these general policies and this welfare law the social security organization is not the social security organization, its responsibility is not the social security organization itself , it is an economic center, if it is there, it means that the government has a duty to cover all its people and to do justice to them , that is, no one should implement this law let him go to bed hungry at night. well, one of our demands is that the government has been withdrawing its livelihood since 1985. it should come in. there are two issues: the implementation of the

social welfare law. this is very important for us. now, mr. seifi pointed out borrowing from the orders of the leadership of the worker and the employer are two wings of work. we want to look realistically, if the amount of wages and subordinates is too high, a small workshop will take 10 people instead of 10 people. it should be treated in such a way that

a large number of young people in this country can be employed and at work and all of them benefit from a reasonable wage . place pointing out that salary increase is proportional to inflation or according to inflation, you mentioned that article 41 of the law the work of the second debate is always that if there is going to be a regional wage, we will come. what do you think about the livelihood basket, and i would like to invite you to raise salaries based on inflation? well, no , look at the current labor law , see that this discussion is within the system, that a person who lives in a society must have a proper livelihood, no one should have anything to do with him, no one, one of the concerns now is that we tie this up. we should not get tied to the work law, this is the initial error , see the law. we have a labor law, a labor law the basis of demand, supply and demand of the business sector

is formed. you have to make a decision in the labor law that please don't go to the economic enterprise, at least the livelihood can be formed for the worker, but since we tie all this to the livelihood of a householder, the result is this. today, the economic enterprise is in trouble and the work goes ahead of the current law , according to torb. that is, you take inflation into account. our livelihood basket is correct . look at a family of 3 and 3 decades . see how many people are working in a family of 3 and 3 decades. this is another information. we found out that out of these 42 million insurances that now there are some of them working, 20% of them are working , out of these three and 30%, three of them are working , one of them is working, but maybe dear viewers can listen now, tell me sir. what are you saying, we can live with 10 tomans, for example, he is right

, he is right, but when you look at it from the point of view of an economic enterprise, in order for that economic enterprise to survive, a right decision must be made so that it does not close down , because when it closes down in fact , the country's employment will suffer. see, you have to bring the country's business environment to a point where the number of economic enterprises will increase. that the worker is his own price he decides that you should now go to a construction estimator . who can determine the price ? because you do not have a building , the number of supply and demand does not matter to the area responsible for construction workers. but in some areas , because the number of economic enterprises and our business environment has not reached a point, there are thousands of enterprises. the difficult situation keeps itself, the result is that if it is harmed, it will be shut down, and

that shutdown or retrenchment will cause the worker who is actually working. and he needs to get the same minimum, he will also lose it, especially the current labor law, which does not allow a series of companies to work under these current conditions, and they actually say that we have found a lot of informal jobs in the country now, because based on at least that's all. they can work, but many are willing to work, and in fact, it has caused that side neither to have insurance, nor to have a pension, and this is what is happening. because this always leads to confrontation how can i deal with the worker ? can i, the worker who

needs to be separated in the morning, the labor law should be amended compared to the current conditions, which saw both the job security for the worker in that case and in different industries and regions, or in fact different economy, if 50% of our economy is services, we should submit separately for services. if it's an industry , you have to make a separate decision. if it's agriculture, you have to make a separate decision. when you come here, you want to set a number . this is a very difficult number for the whole country. well, mr. afsharpour, their point is that the workers who exist are their understanding of this matter. that this determination of regional wages or based on different industries will harm them. well, no, where did this understanding come from? look, it came from the public space. for example , there are many discussions among you. if your opinion is different , then i say proof. the correct research can be proven, what i am saying is, sir , we can find out based on the correct information, for example

, there are many discussions, they say, sir, if we assume that you come to a different region or industry, migration will take place, so no, is this research i have a method, by the way, i am saying that one person cannot do it. you say that it is based on the region and industry. different, yes, on what basis do you say this , because when i go today , i look at different factories in the whole country, for example, if you go to a city, how many guilds are there, how many industries are there , you go to a city, you see 2 cities, 2 industrial companies it has, for example, 100 to 15. there are 200 businesses, how many shops are there in the city, it is very simple , go and see, it is obvious that the number of companies that work in the trade area is much more than the industrial area, but you go to the same trade area and say that the person who works for you has the law. he has a contract , how much has been done, you can see a lot of this

districts cannot legally sign a contract with that person because he has no economic justification for them. well, this is a high percentage of the country's employment. look, we can't determine salaries , let's not think about employment. this is where i come to discuss the welfare sector. what mr. afsharpour said is correct. take into account that this has nothing to do with my field of work. if i want to live more and better , i should go to work more, not to meet the minimum limits . here, something goes wrong when i i understand the minimums that you say, this is not the responsibility of the employer, it is the responsibility of the government , the constitution says, go and see what it says in the constitution, we say, sir, in the constitution, if these things were to happen, today the share of handwritten salaries that it determined is 60-70% belongs to these cases. 30% with these

increases, now 10%, 20%, 30% could be managed by one worker. but when this does not happen, it is clear that all he can do is to let this percentage go up, this percentage is also because inflation creates an expectation, now he wants it to be 3%, or 4%, whatever it is, if that inflation is contained. if the value does not happen, you will complete the trade and industry that you said, if it becomes a region for the benefit of the one who is working in a trade, for example, how will it benefit him, that is, now , for example, he is getting less than the salary of the ministry of labor. now to me i am a trade union , when i can't see when i have it, i will tell you that it should be approved today. for example, the labor law says that the minimum salary is 7 million tomans. at least now , if he has children, housing, and extra money , it will be added to it. for example, suppose it is 8 tomans for me in the morning according to the labor law, i want to sign a contract at the end of the year, i signed a contract with this person for 8 tomans

, 7 tomans for his base, which is 7 tomans , it will cost me about 14 million tomans with insurance. with idish, with his industry and all other discussions, well, i am working in an economic enterprise, a shop, he says how much i earn if i give 14 million a month to this person to work for me, what will happen now , they will not sign a contract with this person, this person will come to work. he gets 5 tomans, he is happy to work , because he has nothing to do, he doesn't have a job, then this person doesn't have a contract, he doesn't get insurance, he doesn't have a pension, our labor laws are small, so for example, come for example, a base of 4 million to 5 million has been approved, which costs 10 tomans, so i 'm saying the same thing, see, because we can't , we have one number , we have a law . different regions, why do we say that the labor law should be changed at all

? at the level of the region, you see that you are in a deprived area. well, of course, an economic enterprise must go there to create employment, so an economic enterprise that does not have a certificate cannot. go there, unemployment will be formed, thank you. that means you can't give an average for a country that has 31 provinces, one country, one province is deprived , one province is not deprived. see tax. mr. afsharpour, please tell me to what extent you agreed with his order, mr. seifi , until you see about regional wages and various industries, my point was that in the field of labor , there is ambiguity for us, the implementation of regional wages and the industry of rome, they say, sir, he has already come to very old governments have failed to implement yet

we don't have information on what it was based on, what components came and went, and how it worked. regarding a region, our suggestion to the government is that if you want to work, there is no problem, just come and work on 3 items. i will do it myself . see how well these organizations are with you in your province and regions . if there is a problem , fix them. then come and do the work at a higher level . now come and work on children's rights. come and work on housing rights. come on ben. work as a worker , go to your region and do it, that is, how can it be done for a worker in any region based on, for example, the cost of housing that area can afford housing. take it, because in general, it may be more, why do we always think that if there is a region, it should be less? well, one thing, i would like to mention this about the region. at the moment, there is something

that i am confused about, and it should be, that there should be a minimum, then the region's rent. there is no decrease or decrease around it, but it has its own increases, in some places there may be an increase of 5d, in some places there will be a 30% increase . but the national minimum should be determined. say , sir, this is the minimum for the region. based on these few provisions, the minimum is not in the law. it is not there. look at us. right now, the minimum that we set is not legal . yes, because we don't have anything called a national wage , we don't have a law, we have different industries or regions, we have to determine according to these two , we don't have a fixed and national wage. in this area, i find a sense of peace when i know that this has already happened or how it is going to happen or what i have or

what is going to happen in my livelihood that i am now making up and down with, but i know less than this. i can't put my livelihood in danger our suggestion to the government is not to enter at all. regarding regional wages, if you want to implement 3 of these regional wage items , you say that it will benefit the worker 100% . for example, they have this concern that with the implementation of these orders that you are saying here, it is possible that their salary will decrease, but it will not happen . in the field of wages regional and field, because the method has not been worked, the country must

first have the courage to operate and make a decision , let a region pilot a province , let it be a trial, let it be a year, once and for all, find out the task of doing this research. with the correct information that exists, come after the builder. sir, we will come to a province, based on this year , we will determine the region and field for that province. let's see if what mr. immigration says will take shape . we believe that this will not happen, but until this chat comes to research and numbers it cannot be defended logically, you, as a representative of the employers , have demanded such things from the government so far. we are not, we are, or we are not

, we are full-fledged, unless it is possible to grow the economy in an economic war, then your labor law is from 32 years ago , can't we do this surgery once and for all, fix it and update it. only that part of the tax, i ask you to look at the discussion that exists , we will define a poverty line now, if we define a poverty line, we will define a poverty line , until that risk, we should not be taxed anymore, for example , come and see, sir, for example, we say, sir, up to 10 you, m this year it was up to 10 million tomans, for example exempt from 10 million tomans, for example up to 14 million one percent of 14 million tomans, for example up to 20 million one percent. today , when we say poverty line, suppose if the poverty line comes this year, first of all, something happened in the country. we understand that statistics and figures, for example

, you see the central bank with the statistics organization , you see a series, for example, tolerance, what is the end of it, sir , how much is inflation from your point of view, from the point of view of the statistics organization , because what you really touch is important, but whatever the number is, today, if let's determine a poverty line, for example, sir, the line is 15 million tomans, for example, 18 million tomans, not 12 million tomans, any number from this line to that line, we would not have to tax it again, why should we tax it, this is a help that the government can do, you see, by raising salaries, we are dealing with inflation and the expected inflation that is in the form of it doesn't happen for the worker , we have to increase the side support in a labor area. do the work, which means

marginal support should be fixed. so that the worker can be at that point of comfort. mr. afsharpour , what do you think about salary increase proportional to inflation or exactly inflation? the point is, let's say, sir , it can never be done according to inflation, because it is according to inflation, of course , before that, let me tell you something, at least the workers' salaries are very low, that is, when they announce it. 400,500, what amount do you think will be added? nothing special is happening at all for the working class . well, let's come to this. now we have a long backlog . there is a long backlog in the determination of wages and inflation, which has always been the request of the labor community . based on that,

we can do the work. for several years now, they have been saying, sir, nothing according to inflation the time is not adjusted for inflation based on the consideration of inflation and the livelihood basket in the supreme labor council. it is the basis for bargaining. well, it does not mean that a position has to be determined to say, sir, this is 30% inflation, now i have to increase by 30%, not the livelihood basket was important to us. it is important that based on these two, how much bargaining power should i increase so that i can have a higher wage increase. now here is a more important point. is the bargaining method of determining the banana correct ? we have a more fundamental problem, which is the method of determining us in different countries

they have different ones. fortunately, all the members of the working community, employers of the government are familiar with which country has gone with which method, but in these many years , everything has been left to the working community, who just comes to bargain, sir, we cannot reach a formula, reach a fixed method that is scientific. may it be clear that it has the least expected damage in its variable economy. and the salary should be determined based on that. it is always difficult to negotiate at the end of the year . sir, he is shouting, it should be low, this should be high. what is the end of it, for now, until the government controls inflation. 100 should be added to the worker's salary, after 3 months , wait a little bit, because the issue is more fundamental. we

had the same party 57 years ago, everyone was happy at first, but after two months, it returned to its original position, that is, the worker was unhappy, the employer was unhappy, the government itself was the most unhappy of all, no, you should consider it right now. that's a good point, mr. afsharpour. suppose now that inflation reaches the base of 42 at all . increase it by 42. for example, it will be 8. it's not that we think that all problems can be solved with it, but until this inflation is really not controlled

earthquakes really occur. in the field of business and in other fields, until those side supports are formed for a worker whose work is based on the fields that i told you in the constitution , in fact, these debates about rights do not affect the field. a worker of the country does not do anything, remember you, i said that the worker feels entitled , so there is one thing, we ask the government, there are two deputy ministers in one ministry , one announces the poverty line, and the other determines the wages. hakim , thank you very much to both the guests of the program good wishes especially for the balter program that you have accompanied us until this moment. may god protect you and bless you wherever we are today.