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you know that in the past few years and recently, there have been many talks about that we should remove the entrance exam and hold it in a different way. the last approval was that, for example, the entrance exam of 1403 should be two-stage, the share of records will reach 50%, and there are many issues that the supporters and opponents of keeping or removing the entrance exam talked about, which are also discussed in this program. we would like to present a debate on this topic to your presence. please stay with us until the bottom. the iranian coach, sharaf iran , is playing with a telegram across the country. why are you setting prices this month? your question is an interesting question. you are a football manager . to be here in the upper studio, mr. younessi

, a professor at allameh tabatbai university, is present as a supporter of removing the entrance exam, as well as mr. omraei, a member of the education commission of the transparency and justice watch, as an opponent of the issue that i presented to you. greetings and god and strength to both guests before the debate. let's start, i want to invite you. let's go see a report, let's see what the other experts think about the topic we are talking about , we want to debate , we will come back and start our conversation . it was held in 1348 with 4773 candidates and today more than one million and 100 thousand candidates apply to participate in the national exam. there are candidates who, among the five

experimental groups , are more likely to apply for widely used and job-creating fields, considering the ups and downs of holding the national entrance exam in holding and announcing the results and the diversity of the district and different universities. be volunteers? do you agree to remove the entrance exam or not? entrance exam in no way until the applicant exceeds his ability in some fields . currently, about 90 percent of the fields universities do not have an entrance exam and only 10% of fields of study such as medicine, dentistry, pharmacy and veterinary medicine and some fields of humanities such as law and political science have many applicants and the entrance exam is held until some fields have many applicants, we have we are holding an entrance exam so that those who

have higher grades and academic ability can enter the university. konkor imposes injustices such as different quotas and purchasing educational resources on students and creates anxiety and stress for them. to the opinion in my opinion, it is better to remove the entrance exam. i think one the four-hour test cannot show all the abilities and capabilities of a student, and unfortunately, perhaps for some institutions , it has become a tool to earn money, and this can cause a lot of damage. students who use educational aid resources and have more facilities try to learn more test and exam tips in order to get the best result in a short time, and this work will be more of a test-taking skill. currently, most universities do not have entrance exams, especially in the fields of humanities. even some universities both government and private schools accept students without an entrance exam.

so why is the entrance exam not removed? you are a special viewer of the higher program. allow me to start with mr. amrai and this question, mr. amrai , where does your opposition to the removal of the entrance exam come from? well, in the name of allah, the most merciful , the most merciful, i would like to say hello to my dear viewers, dear guests, now in different countries and all over the world, there is a model and method that is used for university admission and the so-called evaluation and admission system that they consider according to the capacity of the field. the most popular in the country. there is a country, we must support these volunteers let's separate in our country, due to the fact that the capacity of our high-concentration fields and, in principle , the special fields in the society are very limited. for example, in our fields of medical sciences

, our capacity is 15,16,000 students based on a resolution that has just added 20% to the amount of the supreme council of the cultural revolution. we for these special disciplines. currently, about one million students are registering to study in these fields , while the capacity of these fields does not reach 20,000 . konkur because our feeling is that we have to design an alternative method and model that can help these 20,000 people out of this one million. now, this model does not exist, or if it exists, its infrastructure is moving forward in a weak way, and there is no infrastructure at all that can replace the entrance exam. consider now that in the exam, in

fact, the sat is one of the exams that in one of the famous and brand universities of the world , admission is being done in three ways, three models, which does not mean that we are behind the rest of the countries, not exactly different countries. the world is moving forward in the same way as the entrance exam model, and after all, science is teaching them , it is moving forward with these models. i want to say that we are also following the method and model that has been defined. we are not behind the world in entrance exams, in fact we are in a good category and if you see that patients from all over the world are entering our country, you can see that our neighboring countries do not really have the dignity in terms of medical science that a disease can go to those countries.

yes, but why is iran coming? the reason is that we are holding the entrance exam with the same method that has been established for 40 years and even the entrance exam goes back to before the revolution. we will do it if there is a problem with the entrance exam method. now, our medical field also had a problem because we accepted and trained doctors based on this entrance exam, i want to tell you that the world is now using this model, of course the entrance exam has some disadvantages and if you get an iranian from the entrance exam, i i will take 10 from iran in the entrance exam, but we have to choose a method to replace it, based on the infrastructure we see, it does not exist, and that is why we are against removing the entrance exam. how much do you agree with mr. amrai's statements? greetings dear viewers, i congratulate you on the holy month of ramadan and the renewal of the spring season

. i greet you and my dear guest again . i am not the education system of the country, so i am not the representative of the measurement system of my country. i am an academician whose field is measurement and measurement, and i want to serve you now with my observations and experiences. let me tell you, i can almost say that i agree with all the words and statements of mr. amrai, that is, the entrance exam has its own problems , but it is not like that. let's not move, we have to move. after all, in my experience , the history that i read dates back to 1317. this entrance exam is now being implemented in different ways . of course, he has tried different methods, but in

any case, don't forget one thing that testing in the world of industry is considered to be a very large-scale assessment industry. in general , large-scale assessment is one of the most profitable and profitable industries in the world . some of them are large-scale tests and are considered extensive assessments fateful like an entrance exam, well, when it's a fateful test. can be here the first difficult problem arises, that is , we are going to make a decision about a large part of a person's life based on a score in a certain period of time. we should not say yes or no to cancel the entrance exam , we should say do we want to learn. arya atlaf omar, yes or no

, we have to pay attention to it. look at the educational systems of the world, you must see, mr. omrai, the ministry of education, the ministry of education, or more precisely, we are here. we have come to education in 3 parts , each of them is incompatible with each other, that is , the education system, the higher education system , the medical education system, in other places , we encounter problems with each other. this is the resolution that the supreme council of cultural revolution entered it was part of the misunderstandings that occurred between the officials of the ministry of education and the sangeesh organization. i was informed to some extent and i think i was right. please give me this data and analyze it. do my analysis, for example, is on the technical issues

of the field of measurement, but it does not give me data, even though it gave data to, for example, the officials of education, which it did not, and that is why the officials of education were able to take this resolution and implement it through consultations, which i think is a cultural revolution. let them know how true or not it is. in general, i don't think that in the technical matter, for example, you can say in the air defense industry , for example, the supreme revolutionary council. culture or for example other places that correspond to it, in this situation, media and find entry, i think it is safe to say that rushing to announce this resolution when we can talk about change when those conditions have been met, alternative conditions have been met. i agree with the elimination of the entrance exam on the condition that our educational system is

reformed. it should be as much as the country needs. now, last year, about 60,700 people took article 28. it means that people who, for example , have a bachelor's degree in chemistry, physics, or other fields, and have studied at azad university, payam noor, or other universities all over the country. but this is the period of nature, the teacher of the unseen nature. teacher they haven't seen it and they are going to fill our primary education class, they are going to fill our technical and vocational education and first and second secondary education anyway, despite what it says and i have seen in previous programs that they emphasize on the fundamental document of education should be implemented and the national program in the national curriculum should be implemented . actually, he does not have so much ambition in this direction that, for example, one of his important elements, which is a teacher , should be moved in this direction and make more favorable choices. mr. hamari, see, now he is

almost in line with my words there were also reasons for bringing orders . the resolution issued by the cultural revolution council regarding the entrance exam was a resolution full of problems. we wrote to mr. president 5 times, and the president also ordered follow-up on the letters. the former secretary of the cultural revolution council followed up. those letters of ours, as they already went from the secretary, still with the answer to those letters that mr. president ordered us not to give in the organization and came after three amendments, they announced a resolution. i will tell you here. some educational institutions that teach teaching aid books they claim that their books were printed before the approval of the entrance exams

, how did they know that they had printed the descriptive exam books? how should the mafia be informed that a decree is being announced to bring the books for the exam night into the market? we had a book in the national entrance exam. it was a test book. this is the book i took. we said that the market should be limited. the market should be limited. institutions that sell test books. bringing tashri books into the market , now you know what happened. a new financial market was added to the field of education, this double pressure was placed on the family. see

if the decree that was announced was really aimed at reducing stress and anxiety. once we multiplied the national entrance exam by 30, it became 30 final exams in june and january. 801% of the entrance exam candidates officially declared their opposition to the effect of academic records in the questionnaire designed by the evaluation organization. it is communicated that the goal should be followed, one, this goal should benefit the society and help the cycle of science in the society , and second, it should help the approved students. what was announced did not help the volunteer, nor did it help the society. as you know, the ministry of education is one of the ministries that is not responsive at all. unfortunately, we came

and drafted a question before sending a letter to the ministry of education. education we sat down with 3 ministers, the former and current minister of education, we told them about the entrance exam, we told them to take care, they are putting a huge burden on you regarding the final exams , they want to remove this burden for the entrance exam, they want to put it on your shoulders. you want to destroy the educational system but gentlemen, why are you happy in education, because they say that we will finally come forward in the society of the final exams, which are now being promoted by education, in fact, you are aware of the effect of papers , what does the difference between 10 and 11 marks in one paper mean, gentlemen, coming in one the program of our news network came in the previous program, we announced that there was a difference, then came to give an answer and said that this difference might be one sheet, or two sheets, the same one

sheet, two sheets in each province, you multiply it, and you get 100 sheets in the country. these 100 people have 100 capacity for medical sciences field of anatomical examinations in 1962 and 1963, the assessment organization came and conducted a detailed exam, and it failed . do you know what the reason was ? they brought a mark on a sheet in the morning and asked him to mark this sheet . he had given a grade. being after lunch, affect this , he had given another score, the same sheet and the same impression. the original teacher had given him a different grade during the break. one person and one paper will produce three marks. consider that in education there is one paper with 3 students. how can you comment on one paper when 3 people are reading? is the body this is really justice in our country, thank you

. dear doctor, how many thousands of people do we have a density of 19,75 to 20, do you know what it means? this means that children whose gpa is below this written gpa should say goodbye to medical science courses because the capacity of our courses does not respond to this number of gpas. and let me tell you one more thing : the final exams are open from 0 to 20, the entrance exams are from negative and 33 to hundred and when the interval increases, you can automatically distinguish better in the community of amarid. there is a statistical science that i am telling you, thank you very much sir. well, thank you very much, again, some of the issues you raised are correct, some of them, in my opinion , i have a feeling that there is a bias in it, if you allow me

to open one or two of them, see that you mentioned that there were many differences between the documents, the first correction, the second , the third. he did the final exams very well, that is, for example , in terms of security, because minutes before the exam starts , i actually send the exam questions to the provinces, there is a duplicating machine in the district itself, they quickly duplicate and complete the exam. they scan and you must know that when they come , they actually turn the exam papers question by question and, for example, in different provinces, which , for example , the branch does not appear . if you look at it, it is our teachers who are conducting the entrance exam, the main arms are the same teachers who organize the elections, most of them are the same teachers who finally have to adjust here, after

all, there may have been some cases, but this is what i heard and asked. the difference of what is important if the difference is two as far as the corrector is more than two marks, the corrector will go to the third or fourth. the number you say , for example, you multiplied and you reached the number of 100 or 1000 sheets, compared to, for example , right now you have 2000 candidates that the claim evaluation organization this is cheating and based on this issue, you were involved. in the last few months, mr. pour abbas resigned because of the court decision that was issued and he said that it had nothing to do with the survey organization, if it really did, it really did anyway. if we want to calculate , that worm has its own problems, see mr. doctor standing in front of the work we are against the entry of a cheater into the university and we stood up for the same case, for the same case that the court voted for, we said that if the law on dealing with violations and crimes in

national exams is not followed, we will fight strongly. we continued and said that 100 people have this problem or 1000 people have this problem. i said that the difference in grades is too much. i mean the difference in grades is one grade, two grades, three grades, five grades, but you know how much difference a grade of 25 hundredths makes. yes , it does not make a difference. i have to tell you that in the final exam that was held in 2018 and 2019, several 1000 of us had a written gpa above 19.

at that time, a former representative of the parliament announced a statistic based on a series of data. mr. lashki , who was a former representative and is now the legal deputy of the ministry of education, came and said that if a person had a book gpa. if he is below 117th percentile, he cannot study in the 3 fields of medicine, dentistry and pharmacy. mr. doctor , we came and wrote a letter and asked for statistics from the ministry of education. well, sistan was the last in terms of the rank it was getting, we said that now according to your opinion and according to your opinion , a decree has been approved and announced that helps the children of deprived areas.

we filed an official complaint to the free category commission for the free release of statistical information, giving us the first rank in accepting candidates in the same entrance exam based on the new quota of yazd province. we inquired from the iranian statistics center. and we came and looked at the last rank, sistan baluchistan province was there we also inquired that sistan province has the highest rate of inflation. the final conclusion is that the grade point average of the final exams has an inverse relationship with the rate of inflation. the higher the rate of inflation in a region , the lower the final facilities . we conclude that the decree was not issued in the direction of justice. look, i want to say this now, do you know what is really happening, that is , i expect every person who has a heart for the border

and for the university. and their families should really check all aspects without bias. you say that, for example, the difference of two grades is too much? you know how many tests in the entrance exam, if it is wrong , for example, even if it has two options, what will happen and how much it will increase the scores. it was a month, there is a question that

is the most wrong thing that you and we still don't know how they are working and ranking is really a difficult process, it is not that simple and there are issues in those nodes that you mentioned where the density there is a score , how do they untie those knots? i mean, do you think that there are two people, four people, and a thousand people in the entrance exam. the score is because we don't assign the correct score to the entrance exam questions. well, for example, think that the score has been 200 for years. for example, 160 has been correct for 50 other people. all this is not the grade point average. so how are these ranked from 1 to 50, from 1 to 100? we say really, i will explain to you now , so that you can see, first of all, that we are a monitoring organization and a scary organization with an actual organization in the society and announce that we do not know what is going on with this organization . actually, we we are against this debate, see

the organization of sanseh. an organization has been successful before the revolution was formed after the revolution, anyway, before the revolution, now we have it, we said we have it now, we have the results of the test that was held in our country 10 years, 20 years, 30 years, 40 years ago, we see and observe that you have a problem with the device in the measurement organization. following the same issues that happened to us in the art field, we also entered last week, because the discussion there is different from the discussion of the interview tests that we hold. of course, in farhangian university, this issue is being followed and resolved, their selections, their interviews, i want to tell you this, we are not going to do anything bad. let's remove it, replace it with something worse . well, we came here to solve a problem . i'm telling you that removing the entrance exam is not in the interest of the society for the reasons i told you. well, you should go and ask.

in any case, at the level of the society , why are you really against it? why do they say that, sir , we go to the entrance exam once , we take the entrance exam, and now we go to the entrance exam twice, and we have to go 30 times in the final exams , so in this 30 as a rule, every person is sick once is it possible to enter the exam once, as we have all the information security devices and service providers across the country, sir. the entrance exam that is held all over the country ends. for the entrance exam to be held all over the country, you must record in 30 , the information and security device and language services that you will hear online for 30 final exams in the areas of the final exam that you mentioned. if the final exam is so long well, it is being held, why do we turn on our phones when we are outside the field , it is in telegram.