it is 10th of ramadan and 21st of march, noon call to prayer in tehran will be at 12 minutes and maghrib call to prayer will be at 185 minutes. have a nice day , dear compatriots , thank you very much for your attention and cooperation with this news series.

well, here in our studio, mr. sasaneh shaisi , secretary general of the iranian chamber of commerce, is present. also , we will have a connection with mr. izad khan , a member of the islamic council, who is in our studio in birjand, a member of the mining scene commission of the islamic council , mr. seyed shamsandin hosseini, another member of the islamic council. there are those who will add to the total because they are commissions in the form of internet communication he is special for the jump in production and being the minister of economy and one of the main designers of principle 44 and laws. since they have done a lot of work, we can go into more details with them. mr. hassan khani, an economic researcher, will be added to the youth . please tell mr. shavisi that we are talking about people's participation. what does it mean , how should the people achieve this participation ? you mentioned the slogan of years and years .

is iran's economy people-oriented today ? no, iran's economy is a state economy for 11 reasons, which is also the subject of various debates in its own place. a historical record tells us that the necessities of iran's economy are oil and that it has a strong base of income. the government has placed this platform and this foundation in the lap of iran's economic system and insists on the distribution of powerful monetary and financial resources. and define the effects of the capital's function in different areas, and according to that , he prioritizes the actors and the capabilities for himself and recognizes the needs. it says whether this is right or wrong, it is a matter of whether it should be continued, it is another matter, maybe before this it was necessary to define the needs of the national resources in order to make them work

. since the revolution , he has defined his own function in a phrase on the heels of government resources, and by the way, this happened to make a large part of the existing resources , including natural resources, human resources, and natural resources that exist in a wandering form in the country , subject to a dependency and the republic. given that the approach is that it is insisted that it should be economy based on function and government approaches should be defined. it has been pointed out time and time again that the views of hazrat agha, his fraudulent demands, and on the other hand, the actors of the public sector, whether it is the private sector , the cooperative sector, or the people who work in industry and small workshops, is that this scope should not be guided by the support of supervision. it seems to me that it should be focused on interventionist approaches, maybe if in 2019 we have the leap in production as the motto of the year. we used various packages in

the academic field, in the practical field, and in the operational field to realize it, but what it was intended, but it didn't happen. you may have mentioned that in the following years, economic names were brought up again with a production approach. this shows that maybe there is a basic belief and capability regarding what this mutation is, how it is, what its scope is. how should it be looked at in the internal sector ? how should it be looked at in the external sector and between the sectors? who is the main agent and actor? at what level should this actor be defined? it is the most important question that can be answered this year with the people's participation many of these ambiguities have been given. let's be a bit more precise and simple. if we want to say, for example, the housewife who

is sitting at home, the man who is the employee, the woman who is the employee , the man and the woman who are the workers, if they are to participate in the economy. where should this contribution come from and for what purpose? let's define the process and the trends side by side and then place the role that we want to give to the family economy in this process and in these trends . take this product engineering itself has different components , starting from the production of knowledge and services and ending with the production of wealth . it defines a chain. we must determine which of these players, whether they are micro players or macro players, in which position in this value chain, if this capability is defined. let it be defined, then we will get to the priorities. who defines the priorities, the political needs and necessities , or the needs or necessities of making the economy more competitive

in order to take a greater share in the geometry of the global economy ? it seems to me that if these are answered correctly , then the relationship institution of knowledge structure and management and people it can be better defined in this area . thank you, mr. izdekha. what do you think? look at the strategic system that the leader of the revolution has in the field of economy. from a few years ago, at least 12 to 13 years ago, in one word, this resistance economy has aspects that the leadership has. every year , they try to emphasize one of those aspects and the first one. the important thing is production. the economy should revolve around production. not on the circuit of capital sales, not on the circuit of cash sales, not on the circuit of crude sales, not on the circuit of profiteering. the economy must be a productive economy. second , it should be endogenous and extroverted. we

we believe that our economy should have strong internal foundations, but it should work in interaction with the whole world . third point. the issue of justice is central, economic justice must prevail, structures, economic structures must establish justice, not spread discrimination, we now sometimes have structures that are fueling discrimination. there is a third aspect to it: we call it people's economy . this people's economy is a new word in the world. we are violating both of them. we are saying that people should have agency in the economy. the fifth aspect is the discussion

of knowledge. now this year, the leadership has pointed out and declared itself on the popularization of the economy . what does it mean? that is, if we want our economy to be organized, we must get rid of poverty, misery and discrimination , get rid of corruption and rent, first of all, we must build the backbone of the economy on production, and secondly, this path will not be possible except through popular economy . there is a formula for popularizing the economy. there is a pattern , we have to go and make the patterns according to the country's requirements. we don't need to imitate the world it is not necessary to imitate the same banking model experienced by england and america in the country and our huge liquidity resources should not be directed towards production and

our entrepreneur should actually stay behind the bank and a share of the bank and banking education . it doesn't matter whether people's savings are in the bank or in the land sector. even though we are a vast country and we have vast land resources, we have a problem, whether these are in the prison of the government or in the prison of big capitalists, and the general public , our farmers, our farmers, our entrepreneurs, small and large , cannot use these huge resources. we must put the economy in the hands of the people , we must develop the agency of the people in the economy , we must free the land, production resources, capital , not in the prison of the bank, not in the prison of the land affairs, not in the prison of the failed state institutions. this should be available to the public. mr. hosseini, what do you think?

what action do you think should be taken to make the economy people-oriented, to bring the people's participation to jump in production? basically , how is this leap in production realized with the participation of people ? by the way, i want to clarify the point of my discussion. the general policies of article 44 of the constitution are the same law executives, you are informed that the key to correct the structure of iran's economy and to implement it in accordance with what the constitution has said , goes back to the general policies of article 44 of the constitution. let's go out and return to the same arrangements as mentioned in the constitution after announcing the general policies of article 44 of the constitution. and the approval of its implementation law in the islamic council, we

removed the prohibitions for the participation of people from the non-governmental sector in the economic sector, but unfortunately, i must say that the restrictions and excuses to the 11th parliament took an appropriate action to remain strong, and that was to address this aspect, that is, to open the way for people's participation. you see, we are definitely waiting, based on the analysis of our business environment among 190 countries in the world. we have the 126th rank, and again with regret , we have to say that to start a business, it means people's participation

, which means that people start expressing their economic activities. there is no such thing, which means that the people are now strata investment is the introduction of investment production. it means that when you establish a company or increase the capital of a company, you are equipped to increase production, but when someone who wants to use it . now , it is not very important whether

it is in the form of, for example, a joint-stock company or a cooperative company. economic institutions prevent al-hil from being present in the economic field in various ways. so, how should people's participation be formed? some may think now that we should give a call and say, hurry up let's participate in economic activities. when you are interested, we have different programs. we discussed with you that a person wants to come and start an economic activity, we do not give him a license, how does he want to form an economic partnership, today the supreme leader brought up the jump in production, and they said, with the participation of my people, where is the bottleneck in this licensing process ? the ones that you mention, how much work is going well, how many problems are there, where are the problems, in general, compared to what was before, the situation has improved a lot.

see my various devices for example multiple times i said, for example, the municipalities are still not connected to the business systems, this is the national portal , i issue permits, the agricultural jihad is still very weak in this field, the ministry of health and medicine is likewise, so i want to tell you something, see when a slogan is raised, lest we assume that we have to go back to the starting point and start from zero . no, you go back to the meeting that the economic activists had with the supreme leader about a month ago . i was also there. facilitate the presence of business licenses was another, in fact, financing when we

talk about financing, the presence of the people is actually the presence of the people. i want to say again that we don't have enough resources to waste. we must have a proper financing system . fortunately, the production and infrastructure financing law has been approved in the 11th parliament. there was a back-and-forth with the guardian council, the major part of iran was resolved . if we are looking for economic growth and jump in production, we should look for this. for investment to increase, in order for investment to increase, on the one hand , the business environment must be provided. in fact, facilitating the issuance of business licenses and the business environment, now the business environment, how many devices and names did you mention for issuing licenses, which you said that they have become the bottleneck of the 12th parliament, or in this same

11th parliament, how will you follow up? see, we are your place. the characteristic of the islamic council is one of the mechanisms that we follow is the opinion reports. so far we have received two monitoring reports in the 11th parliament . we will definitely present the next monitoring report. after we passed, we had the budget law and the law we had the plan, our report is ready now , we have to see if we will find this opportunity or not due to the changes in the parliament in the 11th parliament , but in any case, our report is ready , this is actually an opportunity, if available, with more details we can discuss how many meetings we have been at your service so far. i will emphasize again , my dear brother, dear friends, please

note that our economic growth was low during the years 1390 to 1400. it was less than half, about half a percent. our population growth is over 1%. our per capita income has decreased. in the years 1401 and 1402 the investment situation has improved a bit , the economic growth situation has improved a bit, but i said that it is at a young age, in order for this bud to become a success, at least 2 of the basic tasks that i mentioned must be followed. one of them continues to emphasize the facilitation of issuing business councils, and here i expect the judiciary to provide more and better support. i personally believe that in many cases , some of the people who did not want to cooperate are behind some of the institutions in the judiciary. the judicial branch should help the islamic council and the next issue is financing the production

it is a fabrication because when you refer to economic activists, one of my issues has been raised. i want to emphasize this, and finally, that we should seek the approval of new laws in the 12th parliament, rather than seeking the approval of the same laws that were passed in the 11th parliament. even the parliament before this law to remove the obstacles to production, the knowledge production law , the housing law, let's emphasize on these, god willing, they will be implemented. thank you, let's go to mr. hassan khani, mr. hassan khani, what do you think, in order to open the way for entrepreneurs, for investors, in order to open the way for mr. hosseini this popular participation should take place, what measures should the governments take, what should be done by the parliament itself, what should be on its agenda, in the name of allah

, the most merciful, the most merciful, i offer my greetings to you and also to the audience, the audience , the viewers, the dear people of iran , the honorable guests, and congratulations on eid. i would like to submit your theater and prayers, god willing, accept the door of truth , and god willing , soon we will be able to hear the news of the victory of the palestinian people at the world level regarding the saying of hazrat agha and the slogan of the year. regarding the orders, especially mr. dr. hosseini and mr. eizdkhwa, see, i want to convey this point that the mutation of production is a series of requirements. preliminaries are necessary, and i think the most important prelude to the jump in production is the realization of clause 8 of the general employment policies approved in 2019. paragraph seven of the general employment policies emphasizes the issue that the coordination and stability of the monetary, financial and commercial policies of the country

. or the economic governance of the country, from the parliament, the judiciary, and actually the governing body of the country , i think people always play their role in these 45 years of playing in our various fields in the war, when the people show up with the directive , not showing up, it was a call of the imam saying that the people say lip service in the field of my economy, when the leader says that the people show up, the people are ready to do their duty in the demonstration. they don't do it and they don't do it . it is the government, the parliament and the governing institutions, they are the governments that should create the platform for the people to attend. mr. dr. hosseini says about investment. or the licenses, i think this is a bit of a reduction of the issue, the issue is not that we only have the license, if we actually create the license, people will show up.

no, this is a requirement for the presence of the people, but it is not enough. it is not a sufficient condition. the most important condition is the most important condition before the permits, before the people invest. i think the most important condition is that the economic governance body of the country works in harmony . in the 11th parliament and the 13th government , we have clearly observed that there were some disagreements, especially in cross-cutting policies, or there are interpretations, or in fact there are issues between the ministry of economy and the central bank. these must be resolved, but we cannot. in the conflict between the executive bodies and the decision-making bodies, for example the central bank and the ministry of economy specifically discuss the commodity exchange center, see what differences there are. and what is still not resolved is an important part of these, i would like to say that if we want people to enter the economy, one of the most important requirements is the fulfillment of paragraph

seven of the general employment policies that we need, firstly , there should be coordination between the decision-making institutions and the executive body, and secondly, there should be stability on the policies. if a policy is announced by the government, even if it is wrong, this policy should not be pierced by the government. other devices from institutions that can now operate in parallel. if the policy applies and the order has been issued, coordination should be made for its implementation. of course, the shortcomings must be fixed and in fact, there should be no problems in the implementation, not that the parliament and the government will fight over an adopted policy. this is the most important requirement. thank you , i would like to mention one more thing as the most important requirement for the realization of shawal, which i will come to in the next part. people, it has not been realized until today, despite the fact that since the beginning of the revolution

, the leader of the imams has repeatedly said, leave the work in the hands of the people, why has this not happened? i will give you a concrete example to see where the problem is. my claim is that the problem is that we kept the people's hands and feet closed. we have locked up the resources, we have locked up the powers, right here you say which government agency or parliament, exactly what are their duties, what should i say now , we have two factions in the government board, one is the production faction, which is the ministry of security, the ministry of jihad, the ministry of agriculture, the ministry of energy, the ministry of ict and we have a faction that is macroeconomics, it can be the central bank of the ministry of economy, the budget planning organization , the problem is in the macroeconomics faction, not the production faction of this ministry, the production houses are servants of god. if you want production to flourish, those who don't let it, and the door is closed and the feet are locked, the macroeconomic

dollarization of the economy, centralized planning from above in the style of expansionist centuries, the organization of the budget program, the imprisoning of people's resources in banks by the central bank and especially private banks this is what prevents the participation of the private sector. our customs sometimes sleeps for 4 years, the equipment of our production line wears out and becomes paperless. in our customs, where in the world , how many hours does the goods sleep in the customs, in our customs , the goods sleep for four years until they are released. we left the macro economy to i have discussed some examples to be honest, today our oil minister says that he is on the same side as production. in fact, the oil ministry says that i need to invest 80 billion dollars in order to maintain and improve the level of oil and gas production . here, our central bank makes a statement, saying between 40

up to 60 billion dollars are in the hands of the people, which are not in the hands of the government. they are in their houses or in their coffers or whatever. the question is why these huge resources that are in the hands of the people cannot be transformed in our oil industry. create and we have to go to unjustified methods or borrow or come and spend government resources in oil and gas. why, you are telling me the solution for each of them now, that is, what should the ministry of economy do, what should the central bank do, what should the organization of the program do, what should we eliminate the monopoly of the national oil company. even today, the ministry of oil is a subsidiary of our national oil company . there are governments that don't want to bring dollars and rials, maybe no one knows how or at all, to participate

. let's make him able to go and exploit the oil and gas field, according to who are the specialized contractors in iran who have the money. don't leave it here. you should make a call and say that we want to give the north-south railway of chabahar to 5 joint stock companies . burning why are you not in the main projects of the government and the country? because the government has imprisoned you, please release the marathi. today , we have a heavy livestock capacity in our pastures, amounting to 3 million camels. right now, with the same water and soil conditions that we have today, how many camels do we have, 300,000? it means that one tenth of the capacity of our ranks has been restored, why not? we can give authority to our villagers to our herdsmen

, sir , we don't stand for land grabbing at this level of land grabbing, the lands belong to the government of al-abad, but come and start a business in it. now do you allow it, or that poor camel herder will go away, get fined , get medical treatment, and go to prison. in this south khorasan, i was a witness because 20 camels were taken from afghanistan and brought here to breed them, they were jailed and my camels were confiscated . options are locked elsewhere, sir, you should the authority of the program organization is why anyone who wants to drink water in this country must get permission from the program organization . why do you oppose, sir, in the case of housing , you

give all the people of iran 200 meters and 400 meters of land to each family in their own area, in their own city, in their own villages, tell them we don't have money, let 's give them land, 1% of the country's land today is under residential burden , another 1% release it and see what happens if it happens, housing prices will fall in the country , tell the people, we will give you land, you can take it and make it your own house . a thousand rural cooperatives. and agriculture in this country is still in the medieval style , our fruits and products have to go through 10 brokers' hands to come to tehran's tare bar square, why don't we give permission to the same cooperative that is in the same deprived village south of jiroft to come and set up a stall in tehran? and to sell his product directly who locked him up, who prevented him, why don't we allow privatization, because we went there

, the governments go there as a money box, look at self-development wherever it is reduced, whenever the government's pocket is empty , it auctioned off the government bonds, giving them to aghazadeh . to the brothers, to the aunts, to the cousins. well, these should have reached the people. haft tepe has 10,000 permanent and seasonal workers. why did we not give haft tepe to these 10,000 people? we could have turned these 10,000 people into 20 with the owner-worker model. let's make a cooperative of 500 people and give these 24 thousand hectares of water and expensive soil in the hands of these 10 thousands of people in the world have done this and experienced it. in some places , why can't we go? we have a new legislation. i don't believe that the current laws will give us the answer because these are written with a conservative point

of view . we have to aim for the economic revolution in this parliament . the economic revolution means to destroy our own economic model. dear mr. izadkhah, member of the islamic council mr. hosseini, please tell me the equivalent of the parliamentary committee. people's participation , please tell me how it should be done. yes, in my opinion, the discussion has become very diverse and in some places it has become more than the slogan of the year, and we should follow the technical discussion . the supreme leader is the supreme authority.