tv [untitled] March 23, 2024 3:00pm-3:31pm IRST
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hello, courtesy , respect, service , dear viewers, we are at your service with another debate on the subject of car import or not . believe that in the circumstances the current currency of the country and in order to support domestic production , we should not import cars , we should focus more on domestic production and our promotion. on the other hand, some people agree that we should import cars because we can create a balance in the market in terms of prices. let's do it and help increase the quality of domestic production by creating competitive conditions. if you are interested in this discussion , please join us until the end of the debate .
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sir, let me start with this question , where does your opposition to imports come from and what is the reason? first of all , i would like to say hello to my dear viewers and wish you a happy new year. let me know what you think, for example, household appliances, for example, the manager of the government, the policy maker, let's import everything, what do you think, wherever we have a shortage, let's import it, i agree very much, but the point is that this import border should be determined somewhere, and it should be with the conditions. we can't read anymore. for example, i will give an example and a simple example
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for example, let's go and import workers from abroad and open the door to the country . it is a good thing that every immigrant who comes here will be cheap . i did it under the circumstances . here's the point. in the current situation, we are talking to each other , naturally, not in the door. the conditions are ideal, yes, who said the import is very good? why did we stop it ? why did we stop it? because we didn't want to, not because we wanted to support the car industry. in my opinion , there is a big difference between this year and, for example, 2017. we did not face the currency challenge, but it was due to the foreign exchange policies .
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they were able to manage so-called many things in that way, otherwise our income has not increased in the sense that we can open everything in the import , including cars, you mean with the same principle because you say cars, but it is interesting why cars are separate from other things and import everything. let's face it, all your items, even chicken and eggs, will be cheaper when you import them , not with government dollars. this is what i am against. i am against thinking that now there is a solution called import, all the problems of the country will be solved. you said one sentence first. you said that competition will be created with imports, and with this competition , our automobile industry will be improved. this sentence was a misquote from work.
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yes, the same thing happened. this is the main argument that starts from here. many people assume that if imports are carried out, the industry will be improved. they assume that if car pricing is mandated, what happened in the past 6 years will be done. as far as assuming that the car price is controlled in the market and the car manufacturers are correct among themselves, now the question is the situation has improved, no, this argument is not correct. in another year, i don't know if the jcpoa will be fixed , i don't know if the income, for example , will triple the price of oil, i am saying the opposite. of course, based on the market conditions, industry conditions, and employment conditions in the country, this car import now has different levels, our misfortune is not one or two , this
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car import is wrong. the car is entering the country without having a contract with a reliable car manufacturer this means that it does not have the necessary guarantees . i remind you that in 2015-2016, when some people went to import, we even had very valuable, very valuable people who had been importing in this country for more than 40 years . our wrong policies are sudden, but what happened after that, what kind of service these after-sales service networks give to people for imported cars. therefore, i remind you that what is happening in the name of import does not create competition or industrial development. mr. haddadi, what do you think? why do you think it should be imported? to be in the name of god, i greet you and have a good time
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. i congratulate you, the dear guest of the program, and also congratulate all the viewers on the new year. friends who are generally against the import of cars draw a monster of car imports and imported cars, which usually has no track record behind this depiction. in 1400, when the car liberalization was actually finalized, the parliament finalized its law, according to the customs statistics, which are just a few it was also published the other day that less than 10,000 vehicles were imported, the final clearance is what is the fear for the car market, which has so much opposition, 8 billion the cabinet of ministers considered dollars for cars, industry parts and car imports, only $235 million cars were imported, mr. doctor, where is the horizontal quota outlined with this number, what is the fear of
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car imports, where is the assumption of this game of foreign cars, i accept most of the conversation hi shobano, i agree that the brands that are entering, well , anyway, there are limited customers, naturally, it is the wealthy section of the society . in fact, there are punctuation marks that are a series of keywords
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there is a cliché, the space and atmosphere of opposition to the car market has never had a fact, never had a document , you can't say car. importing cars over the last 40 decades has hit the car industry. i said that the car industry has been hit. the roots of the opposition to car imports have never been rational. you have never seen any imported car competing with a domestic car. you have never seen an imported car where an iranian customer says that i should buy this car from one of the big car manufacturers, or should i buy a german product ? yes, this is the volume you have. i asked you how much pressure this volume imposes on the overall situation of the country . let me explain to you. well, i have a question for mr. khosramani. then i will come back to you. mr. khosramani, what do you think? one by two, not two
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people . in front of someone, we will arrange the time later , not always . it was raised, do you think that the import of cars should be done or not? let me say a word before entering the discussion that the import of cars and cars. it has been working for 5 years, now it is the law and all, and no real or legal person, except for a government decree , has the possibility and authority to want to cancel this, so we should sit now and talk about whether we think imports for example, whether it is right or wrong , it has no place in the arabs, we can give our opinion. yes, it is an expert. this issue has now become a law, approved by the islamic council, approved by the
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guardian council, approved by the supreme board of supervision of the implementation of the laws of the system, and approved by the council of recognition. expediency of the system has been adopted by the government board and it has been implemented. if a law that is in the parliament with the majority of votes and has gone through this process is not implemented in this country. no stone will be left unturned , so which legal institution will gain legitimacy . in order for an issue to be implemented , what path does it have to take in this system so that it can be implemented? therefore, the law that has been approved and received all the approvals is valid. but regarding the statements of our dear friend mr. kakaei. it's strange how many years we have had these conversations. i
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was serving mr. kakai in your programs 6 years ago various people said that the import of cars should be banned, why don't we complain, this disaster has hit the car market for the past 6 years, this disaster has hit the car industry during the time of the import ban , this disaster has hit employment, and still the same repeated keywords are fine. now, if you said 6 years ago, 7 years ago that we do not have an argument , we are in a horizontal war, excuse me, these words, in my opinion , are meaningless and empty, and these words are only possible for people who do not know much about the subject. it should be heard that we have no complaints, i don't know, these are the results of 6 years of work it turned out that we are now at your service after 7 years of car import ban. didn't you say
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that car import should be stopped because we don't have supply? was the supply price controlled? did the job market improve? did the quality improve? did the consumer's rights be respected? i would like the key, at least now that we can see the practical results , now we have to look at the past , not the future, import ban. the car has brought us trouble that we are in now. one point is that they raise the issue of after-sales service a lot , friends, it's strange that we think of getting service we have high-quality imported cars that definitely do not need much repair for a few years, except for periodic services such as oil and filter, but we are sad about the cars of the model. from 2006 to 2017, in the market , which is often wasted, and
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now people are spending a lot of money , they leave cars that have worked for 15 years , for example, 14 years. don't worry, they also provide service to new imported cars, so if we come to stand behind the currency issue, we are speaking on the one hand. on the one hand, every day there is a new case where we have actually allocated billions of dollars of foreign currency to different places and recently there is also a new hostage taking which we have this option and i really think it has been opened for this year as we have seen that. very well, now if we want to open our import car, we mean everything, we mean our own imports , we take credit for everything, we don't have tea production , we don't have rice production, so why is all this imported, if we don't have meat production, then why
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are imports imported to regulate and there is a market adjustment. how do you compare the car with the rest of your cases ? dear mr. kakaei, chicken and meat should be imported right now with free dollars, cheaper than the market price . the problem is that car import has a very small share of the market, but it is very effective in adjusting the price. mr. haddadi said that the consumers of these cars are the wealthy section of the society . the layers of the society are reaching and the price of the prices in the market, especially the price of
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goods like cars, is a waterfall in fact, you modify the top of the pyramid and bring it down, the price of other price deciles and price segments will also be modified, so if you import , if we can lower the price from the top , don't think that your imports are for the benefit of the wealthy. i said that the ban on importing cars was for the benefit of the wealthy because they have expensive cars , the price of which has increased by 25 times . thank you very much, mr. khosravani.
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it is very true to say that meat is more expensive. i completely agree. you look at the issues in one corner and we don't look at the rest. it's not like that. i completely agree i said that i was against the ban on car imports on august 15, 2016. i said this. what is the situation? all these people have gone and registered. it is a problem, but the issue is that i am here now, as mr. khosravani very rightly said that in the past 3 years, the lawyers of our parliament have done their best to make the import and remove all the obstacles very good. it doesn't hurt them
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to bring it, but the opposite point is that they force me all the way. it's good that it has entered, because you said 400 402, thank god, because i was surprised , i said, how can 400 be something like this? see in the world before corona. there was a series of shortages, especially the lack of chips, the production of cars in the world decreased until we came to implement these laws and write their names, it reached 1402. what happened is that it will take time for the importers to be able to bring the
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cars. clear routes do not enter, you cannot move money at all on a macro level. it is already clear that there are no compliments anymore, and as a result, it took a long time. right now , as we are talking, 93,000 orders have been registered and let it go because of the money that is not easy to come by. for the production and development of the country, it is known that many people want to bypass the sanctions and now, in the middle , the events that want to happen are the excuse of the people, in fact, the car. let them enter, of course, mr. khostrovani said it very well. he said it better than you. he is telling the truth that this is the property of the wealthy, while the parliament lawyers are going to approve this plan in the parliament the day they have it. they say that we will bring a dollar-priced car. saying no , is it possible to get 10,000 dollars, then saying 10,000 dollars means 500 million tomans, then we reached two and a half billion tomans? yes, i don't really disagree.
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mr. khodesmani, i really want someone like you , who was and is one of the old and very valuable importers of this country , because i really believe in this issue . in 2016, we dealt with it in such a way that some of our loved ones were even sent to prison . this was a wrong thing. even now, i agree that the import of cars should be done . of course, now we are arguing with each other. yes, but one thing. this is where your country's policies should be appropriate , while in the auto industry, all kinds of trouble to draw and to beat sanato. at the same time , you are saying that it is not very easy to take all kinds of trouble to stop production. look at how much loss they have caused in their hands
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, how they treat the producers and how they are removing the obstacles for the importers. who said to import, at the peak of the freedom of import , there was 70,000 for a short period of time, there was a rush , he imported 10,000, and that's why you took 70,000 more. our market didn't exist, but don't forget , isn't our situation similar to that of 1390? are you comparing our conditions today because of this? due to the situation in the country and the blocked money that cannot easily enter the country, many people go around and take this currency and turn it into a finished product. at the same time, i remind you that at the same time, china has also reached a peak. who wants to develop six export markets. yes, they say that we are very small compared to other markets , but we are also important. the mistrust that is being done with china for transportation to import
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the so-called finished goods, in contrast to our raw materials and raw materials, these must be seen together, otherwise, who said import? it's very good, but if it is just to say, sir, the price is going down , i agree that we should shut down meat altogether, for example , let's import meat. what do we do? we have money. we are going to say that no matter what happens, we will relate it to a big corruption. sir, that big corruption is wrong, but it has nothing to do with whether we are allowed to divide it up. the next thing they say is the figure. the number of games will reach 90,000 and 10,000 with this handbook, because all the obstacles have been removed, the loved ones like mr. khosrovan are fully prepared. the work has reached this point, which makes my producer proud. look at imports, how miserable we have become, see how the society has been brought to where those lawyers who passed this law , who know that import is the way to save the country, why can't they answer that
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the organization of the automobile industry was supposed to happen in these two or three years, where are they? where is that program, where did it come to? yes , 100,000 cars will be imported, very good , from before it was up to 20,000, now with a series of privileges they have 35,000 and 40,000. last year, i told you that there were legal barriers , there were also commercial barriers in the world, more than 40 companies are importing, but it can be 1 billion. there is no problem with the dollar. when we are talking about the lack of width, the issue is not that one billion versus 9 billion or one billion versus three and a half billion tea is a small number . this basket should be filled to a
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certain extent. what was the position of your favorite industry at the smallest time when cars were not imported. it has nothing to do with the fact that some people were out of supply and then the action was not imported . your popular industry had a shortage of production every year when cars were not imported. mahbub and the industry that you defend instead of producing its products there are problems with faith and
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quality , it is an illusion, there is a belief, there is an idea that in fact a group of your like-minded people are developing such an idea. because there is no objection, there is no reason, so i am asking you now. yes , please tell me in two short sentences what is your objection to the importation of a car? mr. khosravani, i have a point
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. i believe that you are a very honorable person thank you, your honor, based on the term of devotion to your service and the acquaintance i have, and i testify that you are completely a person who has halal money in your life . you are entitled to the rights that you get as a consultant from car manufacturers, and you are doing this cartoon. and you come and defend them that the money you get is halal and you are insulting me or you are complimenting me, mr. khast , thank you very much, you mean i am getting my bachelor's degree because of the money i am getting, are you a self-made consultant? you are not, why am i? what does it have to do with the discussion? look, you are discussing character destruction . this is not true at all
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. we are talking scientifically. according to you, a law has been implemented and approved. you two are doing this. this is not correct at all. you are making the same conclusion about the demolition. you are accusing me personally. you are saying that because i am getting money, i am calling from the auto industry. what are you talking about? people are watching. now, look, you are destroying the character i described you to the title of an importer.
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someone tell me what interests iran has in imports . yes, well done, so why do you have to enter into this discussion, why are you doing this now that i earn money from my industry , you should not say the same thing , tell me, no, let's have a scientific discussion. let's do it scientifically. it is scientific that you are the so-called servant of the defender of imports and my job is you are the defender of the automobile industry because your job is to be his advisor. let's not be afraid of what we do. i am not afraid. we should keep our flag high. call me, i'm coming here , the vice president of the car dealers union the car dealers say with a sign under the sign, "i am against , i am in favor of imports, for this reason, yes, i am in my favor, my benefit
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is in the same direction as the benefit of the car market, society, and the people, sir. no, i did not understand why you were upset. i said that you are an industry consultant. " you are a car and you are defending yourself under that sign . look, mr. kakai, i feel that i am more worried about the car industry than your friends. the car industry has been hit by the thinking of some of your peers. it is a disaster that you are bringing to your industry. if your producer is going to leave now, please forgive me importing cars actually destroys all your many years of talk, i don't know , no, the manufacturer must produce, the manufacturer
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will be ruined, the manufacturer. he is the first person who actually went to the import side, that is you , the first betrayal was committed by yourself, mr. raees, exactly the resigned former head of saipa automobile company , laughingly said, "we are going to get your tweets, that is, they themselves know how salty ash is." how economically justified their production is is another matter. dear mr. kakai, please spare me this one sentence i like your comments and i consider your opinions to be valid. look, if the car goes towards mandatory pricing, tell me yes and no . do you agree that mandatory pricing is the first cause of the destruction of the automobile industry?
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