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economist in our country, due to the existence of special economic conditions, people tend to protect their property or money from inflation. after entering a number of these financial markets, money takes on the role of game register. for this reason, the entry of money into these markets brings destructive social and economic effects for the country. if the regulatory and operational bases in the country are ready, the capital id tax plan will fulfill the motto of the year, which is to curb inflation and production growth. will help. mr. taimur rahmani, professor of economics, university of tehran. in the tax on capital gains, inflation should be created, and that is what i am doing i see in the capital id tax plan, it is actually a tax on inflation, not a tax on capital id. in addition to this issue, it does not make sense to include some assets in this plan and not to consider other assets. we saw the report together and reviewed the relevant comments. fagans
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and opponents of the issue that i presented to you, if you are interested , stay with us until the end of this debate, watch us on the news network . agree to tax they are for capital. mr. nasiri aghdam is against the current situation in the picture of taxes for capital, that is, the laws that are written are supposed to be implemented. in addition, god bless both guests of the program, i want to start with mr. nasiri, and basically this question is the reason for your opposition to something. what is written now as a tax for capital, in the name of god , i say hello and politely, you see, i am not against the capital tax. it has been one of our wishes that
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this type of tax be imposed and implemented in this country . i consider it to be a tool for regulating the system, also in terms of distribution. income can help us a lot, both in terms of allocating resources and strengthening productive activities against non-productive activities, and from fluctuations, it can act as a shield against fluctuations , so i basically, i have no objection, and all my efforts in my career are to implement such mechanisms in the economy . the issue is that in the plan that
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has been approved, there is something written that in my opinion cannot be implemented. it is very difficult and if it is implemented with this formula, it will challenge the economy if i want to summarize my understanding of this model and why i think so, i can do so. let me tell you that you see in the plan that came , it says that i will come and take the various assets of the people, then i will say that this is the property , this is the car that you bought and sold , this is the gold , this is the price. i don't have it, so they take part of the assets.
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i say that if it is a part of the aggregated value under one year, i will tax it at 10% higher than 35%, that is , it will be taxed at 45% if it has been between 1 and 3 years. from the distance between buying and selling, i say that 35% to 35% , which will soon reach our 35%, that is , if someone has more than 40-50 million tomans, he should easily give 35% to the government, and then if it takes 3 to 6 years. i will get rid of 50% of this from the new inflation,
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but what are we going to do so far ? if it has been 6 years, i would like to tell you that, well , i will get rid of inflation , and i will tax it at rates of up to 35%. how should we implement it? i want separation from the implementation discussion i should say that this design is a complex and non- straightforward design that creates resistance.
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respected, the friday capital tax discussion program has been discussed and discussed in the country for years and various plans have actually come and gone, and even we already had this in the direct law with one article, in fact 60, if i am not mistaken, until 1971, which unfortunately it was removed in the field of real estate and now there is a plan in the islamic council which was approved and went to the guardian council and the guardian council returned your objections. it is waiting for correction, i mean, i want to say that in this regard , the observer should actually enter the discussion mr. doctor, in my opinion, the discussions are mostly correct and i agree with him a bit. in fact , maybe i have a difference of opinion in two ways. one is in the dimension
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of political economy and what the plan has progressed so far, that is, even though i myself have criticisms of the plan and so on, that's fine. from those criticisms, i believe that finally the country's expert community or now actually those who are influential on the projects have gone ahead and reached this point, and maybe returning this and starting from zero will cost a lot and maybe it will never get here again. finally, the benefits there is actually a lot of not getting this though i also believe that your statement is correct if our design is actually incorrect in a way that causes complexity in our implementation. it can actually fulfill the same intention of zainafan by chance and it will never be implemented in reality, but regarding the current plan, i think that i will tell you two or three parts, very briefly. one is that
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this can, of course, work. it may disturb the tax a little, but according to the native atmosphere of the country , many exemptions have been considered in the plan , which has caused, for example, the example that mr. doctor said that with an id is actually covered. in my opinion, this does not actually happen, that is, considering that, for example, in the field of real estate, every person over the age of 18 is exempted from a residential unit, or the exemptions that are even in commercial properties are actually included in different assets. while i thought it was better to take these into account, in the end , he almost abandoned a part of the society. in fact, in this tax debate, the better consideration is that these exemptions should be less. in your opinion, yes, it could have been less and it could have been more effective, but in the end, the political economy that has been formed in the process of approving these exemptions has been removed, but from my side i want to say that taking these exemptions into account, it can actually be said that id is actually caused
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by inflation , so to speak. the reality of society. regarding the classes that actually have more property than this, i think that they themselves are somehow effective in causing inflation and price increase with the purchases and sales they do with the hoarding that they do now, that is, if we want this extra point. let's tell them that we get our taxes from inflation in a way, we have actually guaranteed that you can enter this market with a large volume and shake the market, and we will also provide you with this capital guarantee , although i think it will open up. what was approved in its initial version has changed. well, with the irans that the guardian council and the naali board took control of general policies
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, there will probably be changes again, but he tried to consider an intermediate space, which i honestly disagree with in my opinion. should not be adjusted regarding in my opinion, the implementation infrastructure is also good even though there are many complexities , as someone who has been following the plan for a few years, i think it would be easier to enter. kurd did not enter into the discussion or even so comprehensively in the beginning, but finally this path went ahead and these infrastructures were also considered, but in my opinion, with some restrictions and with some factors, it is possible to act with this plan in a way that is simpler and in in fact , it was implemented faster, you know , that is, now, because mr. nasir said no , it seems very difficult to implement it. if, however , it needs an explanation, well, then i will ask you in the next section well, mr. nasiri, do you
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agree with that part of the inflation adjustment? now see if you disagree or not. before answering your question, let me raise this point that you should see that when we come to design the system from an aggressive perspective , we consider the system in an ambitious way. we ask him to solve all our problems at the beginning , then hey , we will have to pay an advance. he says that there is nothing wrong with him, let him be alone he says, what do those who have a garden say? well, if a woman has a child
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, then there were some other places where she was free. what will be the result? the result is that instead of putting their money in real estate and
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supporting the production of real estate in the secondary real estate market, they will go to those other markets . it will not necessarily lead to an increase in capital, because in the capital market, someone gives in the increase of capital, which is possible.
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the problem is that you, this balance and the general balance of the system are related to this container. you are this container you tilt it, then this will cause it to fill up, and there will be nothing, and this drying will have a negative effect on this , so my main point is that now we have to create a balance. let's bring down the rates
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and let's accept you. sir, this person who is buying property here is using the system excessively and the system is causing harm to himself. i say let's assume this and accept this speculation , for example, well, i'm not saying it is like this or not you can't solve the problem with an aggressive approach . first, he has to do something so that this car starts . thank you. well, mr. azizi, do you
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believe that the price should be found or not? basically, you think that the prices should be, but this did not happen. in my opinion, it has become very complicated, an attempt has been made to consider it in such a way that it will finally start , that is, it should actually start with restrictions, and finally , different times should be taken into account, for example , in my opinion, the stock market should definitely be included, but when finally, the government had decided to place this market where when the production investment infrastructure actually increases, he finally preferred to spend money in other markets , so he gave this exemption, although i personally do not agree with it, and i think it would be
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covered at a low rate or at least in another way. kurd regarding the secondary real estate market. actually, i should put it a bit more simply , i think, if i have understood correctly , the real estate builders will make a profit, naturally , they will also make a profit from the construction of housing, in fact, from this buying and selling between this space and in fact they say that if we take this profit , we will actually weaken the production, that is, one-sided yes.
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sibash has definitely built more than that, and i think that this plan is arranged in such a way that only construction is exempted, and this will lead to the direction that by the way, we will adjust our housing market to the construction market. let it be sold sooner and the unit that people need means, in my opinion, this discussion is taken into account, but the fact that the pre-sale is actually exempted up to one or two times, in my opinion , it doesn't really hurt from that point of view. rate discussion below, as the doctor says , according to the experience of some countries, in fact , for the purpose you say, the entry should be a little slower . in fact, we face a smaller population, and
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i have no objection to dealing with that smaller population a bit more harshly. year after year, these people increase and decrease it, 25, 35, 25, for the past few years , there is an argument that is due to the fact that , finally, there should be a difference between this activity that we we say that it is not productive, according to the words of mr. leonard berman, in fact, he says that it is stupid, dirty, sterile, this means that the words are finally the tax economist in america
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, between those who are finally building a factory. yes, if in fact we lower the rate, which we are going to do in the next bills, this can also be adjusted according to it, but in my opinion , it should definitely be higher, and secondly, considering the numbers, in your opinion, it is a suitable number, in my opinion , it should be higher. it means that i should be more. yes , for the first years, my 10% could be even more than this time. it means that yes, it could be 45. ok, the rate reduction could have happened later , because our housing peaks happen once every few years. it seems that we should adjust it in such a way that in relation to inflation, this is one of the features of bandaz, in my opinion, it could be even faster, mr. nasir , if it was faster in your opinion, it would not be better to balance the rates. we can put an atom bomb under the economy and say yes, for example, two people are making a profit, let's blow up the economy
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. well, i have no idea about this, but i understand what number system you think is your ideal number. a series of countries say the same foreign experiences of the tax system that implement the double tax system of the tax system. dogan is saying that i will gradually tax the labor force on its income, but i will tax the capital for various reasons that can be disputed about it now. i don't want to defend it between the lowest tax rate on the labor force and it is included among the taxes on capital income, this is the capital verse, that is, for example , at a rate. 10% flat, consider that we are now in an economy where we have been saying that corporate tax is the most important resource for all these years. for our income, the effective rate is below 10%
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, the effective rate we have is taxing them, so once you come, tell a system, i want to come and get 45 from a place. let's control it. i disagree with this because it's not possible. if it was possible, then we could discuss whether it's good or not. i say basically , there is no such possibility available to us. then see, regarding the secondary market of your property, you say that i will limit that secondary market. but i include it in the construction, i exempt it , and this is very good, but the problem is that these are not separate islands. if you pay attention to my emphasis in a market, you will be in a market. let's come to one of our major markets, such as gold and silver , which is clear, and the car, which is a major issue
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, is the queen in the structure market, in the major market of our property. let's say , sir, it's a secondary market. 35 45 50 go up and i don't care about my shares, come help me, come to the capital market, it's not news at all that you are completely connected to each other. it is falling, so my point is that even if at some point we say, sir, this rate should be this much, first let 's create the necessary infrastructure for the simplified implementation of brady capital tax , so that a platform has been created. he says that the platform came to us at that time , it was much easier to increase and decrease these screws, how to build the infrastructure for tax
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collection, brady, other capital, how do we recognize the id , how do we include it, how do we guarantee its implementation, and now this is the next part of my conversation . the detail should be two minutes of your time. yes, what do you want to see about the adjustment of inflation and that you didn't tell me? in the current situation, if we want to get finance for capital, it is 35, how much should it be, in your opinion, 10%, 10%, except for the successful first year , 10%, with the rate of the first year, how much should it be in the first year ? i do not agree that the party should buy today. he will sell it tomorrow, well, it is clear that he has it, but whoever buys a house, for example, must keep it for 2 years , keep it for 3 years , keep it for 5 years. we don't charge tax from this base, no one is currently subject to this
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, so you should make it equal to the rest of the bases. it has a regulatory property, so i say, sir, let us get here, then you say that yes, for example , this was too little . in the short term, 35 more is good for the first year . yes, for property, but see, for example, gold has a different story than property. currency has a different story. let me tell you that if i have the bad time, mr. azizi, i will get it later. see, what i mean is that we instead of that let's collect the tax at the source. well , this will make it much easier for you to come and collect it
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. then you make something giant , then tell me, yes, now with the advancements of artificial intelligence, now you are saying the collection of income. this means that the logic of the total has been dealt with in the capital id. instead of doing this, let's make it complicated. next, i will tell you what i have to offer , let's get something simplified in the source and finish it. thank you, dear sir. yes , thank you very much. exploded means that now you and i are talking about the housing economy after hiroshima . i think that for many years, unfortunately, the housing situation , especially housing and the discussion of other activities , is worse than this. it is an example of my violation, which in fact, well, we have always said. that discussion is actually england, after the war after the second world war, when these activities started
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, by the way , it happened very fast and very fast . my marriage partner says, for example, for the second year onwards, you agree to see if there is anything as far as it is harmful, in my opinion, the low rate means that i am concerned, i understand that they are actually helping the project, but i think that there are some concerns, one issue is that if the rate is low, it loses its regulatory properties. it gives not only it doesn't lose money, but the transfer of the burden happens, that is, if you impose a small tax , the sellers can easily transfer it to the consumers, but at high rates , for example, at high rates, this risk is almost according to those experiences and this is much less. the next issue is that it is short-term and long-term dr. maiferma says that i don't agree that he
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gave a discount for a year or for example a few days and a short time. ok, in my opinion , it takes more time in the housing market these days because of the peaks that we have in our history . let's give a little time, for example, 6 months to a year, this can easily expand normal documents, that is , the party will say, well, one year , let's sign something together, then next year , for example, let's make it official. that discussion in addition, it is a good time to go back to that thread, which, in my opinion, took a lot of time , but it was set because the plan that was approved says that, sir, from the time the infrastructure is provided , for example, 3 years from now, for example, this will start. there is no locked-in space, there is actually no shock entering the market, which i think your statement is correct, that is, i agree, but in my opinion , it is placed with this, that is, the culture that we finally have
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and we want to correct it. the last order of my doctor cannot be corrected quickly. the issue is that we actually get the tax and the transaction at the same time and let's not get into these past discussions. i completely agree, in my opinion, of course, if the plan had not reached here, the original version of the plan that was in the previous parliament would have been like this . the discussion was that they should be directed towards the collection of income tax, which i myself do not really agree with this. in my opinion, this is in its place and it is in its place in the future. in the next few years , it can actually be integrated. we discuss a lot, you agree that this happened, not me completely in my opinion, inflation should not be deducted at all, even because in the plan, half of it will be adjusted, now because the supreme court of supervision, unfortunately, in my opinion , there was a problem with this in the name of tax justice
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. the amendment is apparently set to be completely amended, but i am completely against it, in my opinion, even if it was not the policy of the politician that this plan finally reached here after years, in my opinion , if it was not approved, it might even be better than if it was approved with an amendment. mr. nasiram, first of all , tell about inflation adjustment. see, capital income tax is capital income tax, so it is better to talk about capital income. let's not talk about wealth, it is a tax on the capital id , which means that the principal of the capital is in its place . you ask other countries to see other countries.

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