well, you are with me above, i would like to start with mr. hassan khani and ask him what is the reason for his opposition to handing over the authority of market regulation to the chamber of guilds. in the name of allah , the most gracious, the most merciful, i offer my greetings to you, mr. nasad, and also to your respected audience and dear guests, as well as your prayers and prayers. it was written that i am not against the transfer of authority to the trade unions based on the original law. snuff that in

in 2002 , there is an article 17, article 17 of this law, in that article i will explain now. article 17 of the trades law states that the guild must follow the rules of regulations and legislation and pricing determined by the government within the framework of the governance structure. it must be adhered to, so now the issue is not whether we entrust the pricing to snaf, or to entrust the supervision to snaf, or to the governance of this duality . it is not a complete duality, and the governance of both of them has a responsibility towards each other and towards the people, that responsibility is in in fact, maintaining the peace of the market, maintaining prosperity mardemeh, of course, in a situation where the legitimate benefits of asalaf are actually preserved, this is not an issue. however, there is a conflict of interest here

, that conflict of interest is that if you actually entrust the complaint mechanism to snuff, for example, if someone complained about a taxi , you make the authority to deal with this complaint the taxi drivers themselves , there are probably some things that may happen here. in fact, the right of the people there should be lost. the point is that besides the government should not interfere, we should not deregulate government supervision in the name of non-interference of the government. from the society, especially in a country which, like the conditions of our country, is mainly embroiled in sanctions, inefficiency , inflation, and some corruptions, however , it may escape from this space unintentionally from the hands of governance , it may happen, so my point is that we should have a duality that in fact , there is mutuality and governance, let's base it on the law, whatever is the law.

it has determined that the path set by the law should not be deviated from, but at the same time, in the interpretation of the supreme leader, too much interference of the government in the market and in fact taking over the duties in his own hands. make it bad, as we see in some markets in some markets, i mean that this conflict of interest should be managed and that conflict of interest should not occur, that the people's dignity, the people's will, in fact , the people's rights should not be lost under the pretext of not interfering . government de-governance should not happen . this is my first point. obviously, marketing should be brought in by the government or should only the supervision be included, because these powers are a bit too much. i mean, we talked about it in the previous programs. now , market regulation is market supervision. it is supposed to be handed over, a part of me has been handed over. you

you said that you ordered most of the monitoring aspect, but you didn't say what your opinion is, now you are against the fact that the chambers of guilds themselves should supervise the market. you see that the chamber of guilds has been supervising and has been supervising for a long time. it is not your government's supervision, no matter how many supervisory guilds there are , they still need a supervisory body. there is also an external example. in any case, a complaint from the people on the part of a guild actually happens, for example, a person goes to complain about a gold shop. that this gentleman sold me fake gold, if the reference of this complaint is the gold guild ok, the people's rights cannot be paid, the people cannot get the money, anyway , there must be a sovereign military behind the incident to make rules and supervise, that's why i actually think that in history, on 12 may 12 last year,

mr. the brothers sent a letter to mr. nodeh farahani, in fact to snuff, that he must have a sales invoice for gold. leave it to you who are the chamber of guilds, mr. hassan khani, they pointed out that they don't see you very open in the field of supervision and they don't agree that he should be in your team. i wish to accept the prayers and prayers for

my dear countrymen and fellow citizens. also, i offer my condolences on the martyrdom of maul al-mohedino . inshallah, may god accept these prayers from our people . if you want, we can make a comment about sanaf, union, and asalaf chambers. before that, we should know the true meaning of the position of trade union chambers of trade units , what is defined about the union and trade chambers of non-profit organizations . it means that they are non-profit in performing legal duties and enforcing laws and overseeing behavior economic organizations have guilds and economic enterprises. basically, one of the missions and one of the laws required by the union and discussion chambers

is inspection supervision. if we take the inspection supervision from the asalaf chambers or we downplay it , it will definitely not benefit the people today. our unions are all one of the issues that they follow up as the main issue in their work anyway , the issue of inspection supervision. we should strengthen this inspection supervision which is entrusted to the unions according to the law, when this inspection supervision can be effective. ok. that is the real support of this union and snat's rooms. what is being said today and this dear one is bringing up the role of government supervision over all organizations and organs, all the so-called non-governmental organizations

, which has absolutely no contradiction with the role of the government and the so-called special role of opinion organs, exactly. the government should have an opinion that the government should have supervision and the executive work and operational work should be entrusted to the union and the chambers of asalaf. if this does not happen , we have no control over our markets. this does not contradict the role of the government, the role of the government. we say that the government should do its own work. give but the main supervision should be carried out by the unions themselves, because they have a more detailed understanding of the issues , so to speak . it has been transferred, look at

the powers that are the regulatory debates , anyway, because it was said that market regulation, marketing , market supervision was the case before this, and now this is it. if there is a name or not, see if something like this is going to happen, of course some parts have been handed over, but in any case , your monitoring and inspection needs its own tools. we are considering something more than inspection supervision . anyway, inspection supervision should be based on facts , supervision and inspection, which in its place, now you also mention the previous two parts, how much of it is now at your disposal, but it is exactly the main event. what we are talking about has not happened yet. obviously , what will happen if we want to take a closer look, we basically don't know about the market and only inspection supervision , i said that part of marketing and market regulation.

there is a demand for goods. look, all this means that you are the price setter of the goods, the supplier and the regulator of the prices , which is currently being done by the market regulation or the ministry of jad . we are going to before that, let's monitor the events that are going to happen in the discussion of market regulation, i.e. determining the prices, the real supply and demand that wants to happen in the market . you mentioned the work of mr. hassan khani in your presence, you did not agree with the monitoring in the field of market regulation and marketing and price. there is also going to be a report, which means what was said last year, the memorandum of understanding that the chamber of guilds had with

the javadi ministry of agriculture was that market regulation and marketing should be in the hands of the chambers of guilds . what do you oppose or agree with this issue? mr. rastgari , our friend, says that there should not be a conflict between the supervision of the government and the supervision of the guilds. we consider the market, in fact, regulation of the market and assistance to the government to be legitimate, and it is true that this work helps the government, because the knowledge of the guilds is good about their own market, of course, it is not that the government has no knowledge, anyway, within the body of the government, the body is there is a very strong expertise, and there are also very good knowledges of various nobles , there are also very good databases, it is not the case that the government

cannot have nobles, but the presence of the guilds in supervision is necessary as an aid to the government, but to leave all the authority to snaf, this is one i said a little about the issue of conflict and interest , it is true that according to our friend , conflict is actually a snafu, in fact non- profit organizations are considered on paper. but if you are in a guild, anyway, the person who is actually the head of that guild came from inside that guild, from outside the guild. if people complain to that guild, the head of that guild will stay here . before the supervision of two other important departments. i have already informed you about my question . i will inform you once again. now, according to the memorandum of understanding between the ministry of agriculture and the chamber of guilds, it is planned that diyar the regulation of the market should be entrusted to asalaf chambers, this includes marketing, it includes a part of determining

the prices, it will be pricing, you can give your opinion on this matter, then let's go to the supervision , we will talk more about it, see my pricing discussion again. in your program, i said that anywhere in the world, pricing is not actually in the hands of market agents, although snuffs have a very special role in pricing. mainly in developed countries, guilds play a role in the pricing mechanism , they play a prominent role, this should happen here too, there is no problem, but the price formula should to be clear, what does it mean, if you assume a shock to the market, a shock entered the land market , for whatever reason, we have experienced several shocks in recent years, and a shock to the currency market means that the price of the currency suddenly jumps. it may happen in the coming years , it may not happen, that this shock is an excuse that all the pillars of the market

, i.e. the interests of the people , will be subordinated to the interest of the guild. the increase in expenses should be clearly included on the expenses of the guild with close supervision in fact, the involvement of the government with the expertise of the government with the verification mechanism, otherwise it becomes a story. the motorcycle that i told you in a meeting a few meetings ago , there is no rationality behind this pricing system that you see today in the field of motorcycles. the motorcycle that was actually sold in 1995 at the same price, in fact , there was no supervision on it, now its price is the motorcycle may have increased 20 times, 30 times, from the place, just from the place , but there was no strict monitoring of the method , if it seemed to me. that this area of ​​pricing should also monitor the transparent formula themselves

they should cooperate with the government. make this transparency happen in the pricing formula . i think that the benefit of snaf will be realized as well as the benefit of the people. thank you, mr. rostgar . it was supposed to be given to the guilds to market chicken, sugar, and rice on a trial basis. do you agree with mr. hassan khani's comments that you should not be the price setter yourself? you see, the most important factor that we have to consider is the issue of supply and demand, that is, what determines the price in our market, the issue of supply and demand. when smaf comes and the unions come , we should not look at it as if it is only one group for the benefit of gathering, anyway , we have nearly 3 million trade unions in the country , and having a significant contribution to economic growth means that it is not just profiteering, in any case, it is a group like

other sections of the society, they have the right to profit, see this. i say high-altitude guilds. they say that it means the union and the chambers, which means that it makes our supervision more accurate. we did not come here to take advantage of the market . it is true that we came up with the votes of the people. we are a non-governmental organization, like all organizations, we should not see that these are special representatives, for example. they came for a special group look at the benefit, this view is a wrong view and the view of the government . this is exactly where our problem starts . when we have so many services in the country , we have so many facilities, we have so many powers. why limit our powers when it comes to market regulation, how does market regulation happen? it means that value and demand are not supposed to set the price. we are supposed to let supply and demand determine the price. why do we

not want this real supply and demand to be implemented ? what are we worried about? in these 40 years, when the government has been monitoring various economic issues , how many percent have been successful? if they could control the price and inflation, how many percent could they control, what would happen it has happened, why have we reached today, almost since the 1380s, the decree and so-called slogan of the year when the supreme leader of the revolution had economic slogans, that is, his last slogan was to make the economy popular. the jump in production can be popularized, yes, with the participation of the people, the participation of the people, apart from the fact that non-governmental organizations like snaf , which have both tools and expertise, are also accredited , and that they are not the government, our speech is not the

government 's speech at all. basically, you should look at article 44 of the constitution, policy making. how far are we from that principle? has it been done exactly? trusting the people means that an organization that is a people, such as trade unions and unions, they should be valued, they should be able to set the price, what kind of supply and demand mechanism is transparent, we want exactly transparency , the entry and presence of government agencies with any title in the market. it falls, we cannot control it because. a renti is made exactly for a few people . their presence means their planning and their coordination make a renti for a group . well, this rent makes us never succeed in controlling our market . we want the end of all the mess. from the unit let's make a demand from the trade union

, we want the honor from the trade union, we want the trade union to answer the price, and at the end of the work, we want the trade union to do the crimes. it is exactly an unfair behavior that we want to experience again in a vicious circle for several years, so our suggestion is that when the supply and demand is sufficient and in the right conditions, someone cannot have a special rent, so it will definitely benefit them. people buy that real price , people understand the real transparency. well, dear brother, look at us, no one is against, no one is in favor of nationalizing the economy it is not a solution at all that we don't know from the leadership's statements from the slogan of the year, from the fact that hazrat agha says that the popularization

of the economy is equal to the unionization of the economy, which we should not see. one point is that you say that mr. let's leave everything to snuff. if this is your interpretation, it means we leave the pricing to snuff. i mean , there's no problem. let's leave the pricing to snuff, but the pricing formula must be clear . we can't say, mr. snuff, you are one box , one box. make magic from that box magically, whatever price comes up, it's supply and demand , not at all, economics is not all about supply and demand , supply and demand in stable conditions can determine the price fairly in competitive conditions. in the conditions of perfect competition, it can make the pricing fair , but what if there is a monopoly? in the conditions of monopoly on the supply side, can pricing be based on matching pricing? the result of supply and demand can be in accordance with the interests of the people , it can be the maximization of the interests of the people

. you should give credit to the guilds, but if the guilds take over all the components of the work , there will be no corruption, no , it is not like this. make the people realize it, but if we talk like this and look at the government as a disturbing element, your statement will not

come true , it will not actually lead anywhere. consider the interests of the people . i want to give an example. look at last year's thought i think it was at the beginning of december that the gold guild came . where the guild is against the government, the government has no choice but to control , it has no choice but to deal with it, we have to define it somehow, of course, this forgiveness goes back to the government itself, we have to design the path in such a way, especially in the field of basic items and agricultural items that mr. bozorrab says, "i am the subject of the program. we must design the game in such a way that the government designs it in such a way that the trade union can pursue its own interests in a legitimate way." let it legitimately realize itself and help and support, at the same time, it is about the social benefit and the benefit of the people, which should not be taken into account, in fact

, it should be ignored, and that they say that supply and demand determine the price, this is an incomplete statement, it only serves utopian conditions , ideal conditions, stable conditions while when the supply shock or demand shock comes , the supply and demand mechanism is as it should be. it does not achieve welfare and social benefit. i will correct your sentence. see, we never said that the government is an absolute evil . i said at the beginning of my essay that the government, as an observer based on the law, over all social phenomena the saying of the economy is that the work of the people should be entrusted to the people, and the slogan of the year is what is the interpretation of popularization. this is not a negation of the government's monitoring of the economy, unfortunately, this corruption that

you say, you should follow up the corruption elsewhere . we in sna, according to the tests that were given in different periods in the country in different situations , showed that the union and asalaf have this conclusion . it is their promise that they can do it these talks that are sometimes called nafi are the so-called behavior that should be snuffed anyway. in your union, you used gold as an example , the union of gold and gold sellers of the country. not having any opposition to the law. where the law has created restrictions . you may not know that most of these systems and the portals that they put in place, all of these disrupt business, that

is, if you want to do a normal business , you have to go through 10 systems . come and see these obstacles. these are the same obstacles that are sometimes faced by some people people's organizations have a narrow view . we have no objection to supervision. by the way, your opinion and transparency are two issues that we believe in. what we say is that people's work should be left to the people . a few hundreds of thousands of experts who have nobles in different shows are experts. they are talking nonsense, why did we remove them? i claim today that snaf and trade unions

are experts in all trade and economic issues. let's leave this claim aside, let's use the people, let's leave our slogan 40 years ago, we went in other ways for one year let's try to leave the work of the people to the people . we can, with the number of people we have , we can give us what we have in all economic matters . let me ask you a question. this is a rare word, the infrastructure system is in the form of countries, and i can give you an example of about 100 countries. when a person goes to buy gold , the identity will definitely be authenticated. the class

will not be harmed. see now what a disturbance this creates a terrorist incident happened in shahcheragh shiraz in kerman during the ceremony of martyr soleimani . if before this incident a completely healthy and innocent gold dealer came and bought a few pieces of gold from him and supported the terrorist. he provided financial support. if this guy gets caught, you will see the answer. if you see the answer , if he is accused of cooperating with terrorism, whose blood is he responsible for? when they say authentication, what does this disturb you? what advantage does this lack of transparency create for you , sir? now you have a special trade, for example , we are talking a lot more about regulating the market, mainly about chicken, meat, rice, sugar, etc., we are talking about basic goods.

in the pricing of basic items , there is no issue regarding the actual participation and cooperation of the trade union in the pricing, only with the stipulation that the pricing formula must be transparent because it is major. the damages that we have faced in recent years from the point of view of sanctions is that the shock on the supply side of the currency has caused the price of width to increase . they used to import and sometimes depot, not sell at higher prices , they were motivated to sell. this formula is not transparent. if the trade union can make this commitment, it

will help the government with a clear formula. pricing should help the pricing process. there is nothing wrong with this , but our dear friend, mr. tang, says that there is a theory that the systems are not disruptive . what kind of disruption has the market system created for you , if it can make the supply mechanism clear from the beginning of the chain to the end of the chain? make it clear for you, the consumer, the producer, and the guild itself in fact, it can be done very easily, why should we make the distribution chain from production to the explanation opaque under the pretext that the systems are disruptive. in my opinion, this is not the right solution for us to de-systemize on the pretext that disrupting the functioning of this work is not in the best interest of the country at all. mr. hassan khani, regarding the marketing that we have seen before, well, sometimes we had an excess supply of some goods , we had a shortage of supply, sometimes there were many disturbances in

the market. do you think that even though this authority it should be transferred from the government to the snafu chamber itself . tell them how effective it can be. is it a better thing or is it not a good thing in your opinion ? it is definitely a good thing. we have no problem with handing over authority to snafu. saying that we have three and a half million, about three and a half million guilds , the format of these are clean hands, many of them are actually among our noble people who care about this country. there is no prohibition to be a country, only this is the point if authorities are delegated to market development from the government, it should be followed by obligations, no authority will be transferred unless it is a mandatory obligation.