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the formation of the ministry of commerce is necessary now. the large size of the ministry of home affairs and the unmanageability of this ministry of home affairs, various companies , various vice-chairs, and various duties in this ministry of home affairs have caused that every minister, even the highest, that is, the most powerful, in fact, the executive ministers of the government, are also executive people. let's put it on top of this ministry of home affairs. this ministry of home affairs is so big that it is difficult to manage it . i said to my previous minister that 25% of the affairs are related and arranged by this ministry of home affairs. this is a worrisome issue , how can a ministry of this size be created ask him to be responsible for everything. i deliberately emphasized the formation of the ministry of commerce from this point of view , but at the same time, since the issue of agriculture is also discussed , there is this doubt for me that when in the law of concentration of duties, the cause of the year is the cause of march. or
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now, the notification of esfand 91 was approved by burj bahman and its notification was in esfand. there is a third article. this article actually says that the ministry of jihad is obliged to act in the import of any of the goods of clause a to meet domestic needs and regulate the market in a way that at least our self-sufficiency in this area should be improved by 10% every year now, with the ups and downs that you said , see how much an industrial problem is an agricultural problem, i think. in your opinion, how much is the formation of the ministry of commerce
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, which you gave to the central bank, if you take away commerce from me, and give it to the ministry , there will be nothing left for jihad to manage. now , it wasn't just that, last year they wanted to take natural resources too, yes. i mean, all of this is towards separatists. my opinion is that friends are saying that this discussion about the law of concentration should remain because if this law of concentration is lost, we will not be able to do business in the field of business. let's work in the field of agriculture.
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in fact, our accountability will disappear. you agree with this statement. i do not see this statement as strong and solid . why do you see, when the ministry of jihad and agriculture is in charge of an issue called judicial security, it can be done by coordinating, that is, by creating coordination, not by making a council, but by discussing with a council. i completely agree with you, no issue in this country can be solved by becoming a council, we all know that we can solve an issue wherever we want. the ministry of jihad, in fact, because i want to be responsible for judicial security, should also have the authority to trade agricultural products it is up to me, at least in practice it is not defensible for me, because now in the years when the concentration law was implemented and it was in your hands , it was in the hands of the ministry of agricultural
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jihad . for the first few minutes, let me present a desirable model in the administration and in fact the governance of the agriculture and food supply sector, then i will present these to you in relation to that desirable model. the foundation of the department. agriculture as well as natural resources in this rule of the people is our foundation we have production units which, depending on our economic, climatic and social conditions , are usually small family units. they can grow a little bigger in the same family size, but this growth will never mean that they can
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complete their entire production chain in one unit, so they should be organized together in one village, all the farmers who work in the same guild. they are doing their own production it consists in their organization, they complete the chain , that is, those parts of the chain that they could not do in that small unit alone, be it before or after in the chain, say this in that organization, do this in the production unit level unit and in the level now come to the policy making level, if we have these organizations from the village level, the village, the village, the city, the province, and in fact, the nationwide unions at the national level, and these are really formed from the bottom up, not the current organizations that we can say from the 1940s were built in a top-down manner, according to government orders not in the way that it is really formed from the bottom , how the organization can be formed from the bottom is a detailed discussion, we can talk about it
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. let's get to that national union that is really formed from the bottom up, it can regulate the market, it can provide the inputs. do it, it can provide the inputs for animal feed , it can provide the inputs for agriculture, seeds, kot sam, it can regulate the fruit on the night of eid, it can regulate the price of chicken in the holy month. regulate and all the things that we directly expect from the government, this is what everyone believes in. none of these work alone. it does, but one of the accessories is a fragmentation of chain policy. another tool is entrusting work to organizations. as you said, the discussion of the law, in fact, the focus has been suspended and re-implemented in periods that have increased and decreased. we have another law. law to increase the productivity of the agricultural sector and
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illustrated natural resources for the year 2009, in its article 6 , clearly states that the duties of the government are the duties of its management regarding the executive actions of purchases. preparation and explanation of all production inputs , executive actions, purchase, storage, explanation and summary , leave a series of other things to the organizations . 89 has been suspended until now, and this pardon is pending, as well as many other parts of this law. now we can talk about it, but obviously about a point. which mr. hassan khani mentioned and the question that so far in this, for example, how many in the year when the law of concentration was passed, all these powers were in the hands of the ministry of jihad and agriculture, and as you said , they were concentrated in one place. we had to follow a path in order to reach that basic people's governance mechanism that
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came up from the bottom with a people's production structure . a very large part of what we have achieved so far will be lost in order to reach that destination, which means that i agree that the current situation is not at all defensible in that sense, and in fact, the performance container that exists in the existing structure will hinder our work. it makes it difficult to defend the idea , but anyway, we can't fall short of the principle of this idea, that there should be concentration, the work should be entrusted to the organizations, but the issue is that if the ministry of commerce is formed and the important arms of the ministry of jihad, agriculture are in the discussions business should be taken away from him, i am not looking for this again they should express their entrepreneurship, support companies and participate in state commercial enterprises and rural cooperative organizations, and these should regulate
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the market themselves, no, it should be entrusted to the organizations, but policy making, if it is taken, in fact , we are half way back, that is, we will lose the hope that we will be able to reach that destination. in the country, for example, it will lead to an increase in the import of gas, or it will lead to a change in the export and import of gas. we are observing in the years in one year, wheat may
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be imported three times as much as the previous year, and in the following year, nothing at all may be imported . in one year, barley may be imported in a small amount . banning a part of a group of mobile phones , let's not import them, they say that the ministry of commerce , the formation of the ministry of commerce is equivalent to an increase in imports . where did this statement come from? if someone said, with what evidence , it is really very strange, he asks everyone , he only says this part. if the ministry of commerce forms the ministry of commerce, it means the ministry of import and if it is formed with the ministry of commerce imports in the country are formed at the expense of import production . basically, we have a foreign exchange policy , we have a trade policy, we have restrictions
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, we have the production sector in the country, we have the issue of sanctions , where do you say this? you make a very correct point, and that is the hesitancy in the decision that we should come together once and separate again. that is, more than 120 years ago until today , we are involved in the separation and consolidation of the ministry of commerce, industry and national economy, and i do not know these things, and 6 7 these things have happened many times, so this point is absolutely correct that hesitation in this way in this way will destroy even the few achievements. this statement is correct , but i am saying this. let's insist on the method, let's stick to the method
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and don't change it again, don't touch it, don't come every year , say, don't come to every parliament, let's say , well, now there has been some separation, now let's claim it , let's see what happens, we will say it again in 4 years, well, now it's my claim, we're a bit tired. let's change the situation and see what happens, not see what happens it will ruin the work and we are with you . this is my offer. in summary, this is my offer. if you, in this 10-year experience of the law on the concentration of duties of the ministry of jihad , at least in the 8 years that this law has been in existence and has been invalid, give me a report on the performance of article 3 of this. tell me, sir, article 3 of this law states that if the ministry of jihad has control over the commercial sector , it will lead to the entry of non-governmental organizations , it will lead to the improvement of the share of self-sufficiency . the self-sufficiency of this issue was two or three years ago, maybe it has changed a bit now it was 13%, i think in 2019, we
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checked 103, but the coefficient of self-sufficiency of chicken feed, which is 90% of chicken products, means 90% of the input of chicken production , our self-sufficiency coefficient is 15%, in fact, we are not self-sufficient in the field of chicken, we have a strong dependence, as soon as the price the currency becomes turbulent , our chicken market will have problems in the first step of turbulence. please give us a report on the performance of article 3. convince us, we will be happy to help if the same problem remains in the same condition and we will give up our words. thank you, mr. sodegar . i told you that the performance of the ministry agriculture has not always been defensible in these years when the law of concentration has been implemented in this sector, and this itself gives a blow to the path that we have to take to reach that favorable situation, but my point is that if we are a sector we came from the road, in the same part of the road, in fact , the executive officials were not able to do the work, or finally did not understand
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and did not do it, should we go from the path we took, the basic laws that were good during this time , the law actually increased the efficiency of the law, the concentration of those that have been now it is good to go back and have it from here. i mean this it is not really the case that we have no achievements in any of these areas, but on the other hand, we do this very easily. for example, let's say that one of the debates that is seriously discussed for us now is the issue of the implementation of the policies of the killed model, the same debate that you are talking about, in fact , the discussion is about animal feed and, in fact, about chicken seed. now we are consuming it in the existing style of our chicken farms and in the ration that is common in the country, a large part depends on seeds that are rich in water, and basically the production of these is only in countries that are rich in water. but if we actually change chickens and go towards species that
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are compatible with our climatic conditions, what should we do? we should implement a uniform cultivation model policy. let's see the country , let's see the ration of poultry farms in the country and see the export and import of chicken. we can adjust all this together if the importer is the import policy maker, such as the ministry of commerce. it should be separated from the ministry of agricultural jihad to import corn and soybeans for itself. is the ministry of agricultural jihad basically? there is a demand in the poultry farms to produce domestic manure for him and come for him. implement the policies of the cultivation model, the issue is that finally all of these must be together so that we can do the work , while there is another important issue that exists in this area, the challenge is the challenge of calculation . agriculture means the whole chain of production up to food trading. honorable parliament, its duty
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is clear if you feel any problem. do it in the field of supply of inputs, in the field of market regulation and prices, even in the cases of administrative corruption cases that sometimes happen the task is to know which ministry is on the side and which minister should be criticized, but we witnessed this in the years when we did not have the law of centralization, there was a back and forth between the ministries and the house of representatives, the people were confused . i told him that the business did not do its job properly. the business said that it was not a shortage problem. in general, what i am saying makes it difficult for the ministry of agricultural jihad . you can see that it is getting to the point where the government itself changes the minister of agricultural jihad because of several cases or problems that arise. professor, if i may ask you this , i would like to ask mr. hassan khani, do you think that tomorrow, for example, the ministry
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of commerce was formed and all these powers that we are talking about, as an expert, you are against this practice, what do you think will happen to both the agricultural sector and the other sectors. i apologize to you that the industry will fall to the ground, what is happening now, i think it will only make the administrative process within the ministry of jihad difficult, so maybe in practice nothing will happen in the current situation, but in moving towards that desired situation, we will definitely have challenges. i mean, i know much later that you are in the structure public administration, the current state of our public administration structure , we can hope that in a situation where we have multiple goals, we will be able to manage several home ministries in such a coordinated manner, so i want to say that maybe in the current situation, we cannot let's say that if commerce is separated, the situation, for example, the price of inputs , their regulation, the price of fruit, and all these things like that
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, will definitely improve, which means that we have no reason to believe that it has worsened. every structural change at this level is like one and this is a point in practice, but on the other hand, i am about to explode inside the building of the ministry of home affairs. that this ministry should all check, that is , for example, if our target audience is watching this program, let them see that, sir, if the daily business is formed tomorrow, mr. sedaghar's opinion is that the price of chicken, for example, will increase, the price of meat , for example, will change like this, or for example in the field of automobile industry, something like this will happen. i know what you think. i used an example and i said that this issue of segregation and my claim is like a hot potato . you take charcoal and heat it
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your hand is hot, you can't do this and that, while the problem is that you shouldn't take this with your hands, the problem is that the government wants to solve the market regulation problem with my claim and separation of the problem, i say now if separation takes place you know , nothing meaningful will happen at the people's table. if it happens, there are obvious tensions caused by the change of management. if it were separate , it would be re-integrated . it would not have happened again at the same moment at the people's table. this was the situation. the issue is that the regulation of the market must be done. organizations for this, we need a series of policies, including these policies are the focus between production and trade . there is an inherent conflict of interest. everyone knows that the one who is a trader likes to import and get his commission. it exists , i am the ruler, that this conflict should
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be resolved in the interest of the welfare of the people, with any mechanism, no structure of the government, no businessman, should not be thrown out of the market, now with his own legitimate profit, with his own legitimate conditions, and not in the present way. speculation and the operations of computer speculators and traders. barrow this the stories are the problem. the main problem here is that we have 8 minutes . you have 4 minutes to sum it up. after that , i will ask you to answer a conflicting issue. let me tell you later, i will come to this conflict , how defensible is the performance of the ministry of home affairs
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in this field, in different periods, in the cases you mentioned, it must be the same. we reach a place where the government appoints its own minister before the parliament will be attacked. if, in fact, this concentration of duties did not exist, this would have easily happened, i'm sorry, it should have been changed much earlier . well, i mean, i want to say that by the way, the chair of the ministry of jihad and agriculture will become a hot seat that no one can sit on and no one can sit on it. the one who sits must be able to be accountable to all of this chain , he will not have the opportunity to actually fix the issues and blame the ministry of other houses, this is one of the biggest advantages. which happens in this current situation, while i also have a suggestion regarding the situation you mentioned regarding the side of existence i am repeating it again, in the situation of the ministry, well
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, maybe it was the same way that he envisioned the product groups and made a separation in different industries. we also had in our history . the merger of the ministry of industry and the formation of the ministry of industry after the merger formed the same. i say , let's not destroy the ministry of agriculture, the jihad of agriculture, nothing in the same field with the same chain view, that is, in fact, look at the chain of governance, if there is going to be a separation , it should happen with a different cut. in fact, these bills that are now in the parliament , let's make the cut on the basis of separating production from commerce, let's make the cut in a different way . the same conflict of interest can be managed. you said that conflict of interest is inevitable between different sectors. the businessman is always looking for his own profit , the producer is looking for his own profit, and the ruler must be
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able to adjust this. in order to be able to adjust this, he needs tools. he wants to be able to enter the whole chain no, no, in an enterprise-oriented way, yes, this is my suggestion. you have a minute left. if there is anything left, i think the most important issue is the governance system of the people in agriculture. we should have the authority to market and regulate the market. it also happened that one side was left to the snuff room and the organizations talked about this. yes, the issue of regulating the market is the same, and we have a law for it. in fact, i told you, it is said in the law that before we reach the conditions that those organizations how can the government be able to do this? of these support, but the important thing is that actually the sad part is, unfortunately, that our governments have never had this view, that is, the governments have always
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not moved towards this because of the emergency they felt and the weakness of the government administration structure. we postponed the matter until tomorrow, and this is making the work more difficult day by day, and we are in a situation where we expect the government to take over the entire process of regulating the market. that part of the government, while this issue is fundamentally wrong, mr. hassan khani, watch 4 minutes as a summary , there are at least 6 types of problems in the establishment of the ministry of commerce, in agreement and opposition to the establishment of the ministry of commerce . let's review these six issues very quickly . the main issue is production. it should be strengthened, it means that every decision we make should focus on strengthening production. if we say that the ministry of commerce should be separated, it does not mean that it is in favor of imports. it means that
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trade affairs should be focused in such a way that production is strengthened. production within the second issue is the issue of chain distribution. the distribution should be transparent so that we don't see a part of the chain and feel a large part of people's efforts. the problems of the importers and the problems of the producers are being distributed outside the network. this is a serious damage, especially for a country that has 90 million people and is under embargo. it is said that the bread project has saved at least 500 million euros in wheat imports. if this is the case, they really don't have to worry. the ministry made a special effort to make the chain clear about the issue of allocation. the supply of basic goods is our achilles' heel . in this situation, the fourth issue is the discussion of marketing and
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market regulation and pricing, and in fact, the conflicts and frictions that exist in this issue. the fifth issue is the issue of self- sufficiency . now we have a problem in the field of self-sufficiency. our problem is not yet solved . the problem is the same as drought and lack of facilities. the largest amount of water wastage is in the agricultural sector. then we will come in front of the tv when it is summer and we will tell people , don't wash your cars with water. home of 7 owners. is you abandoned the 93 issues , you abandoned industry and agriculture, why are we looking at this issue at this level, this issue of self-sufficiency should not be solved , at the same time, it is not a good thing, now the increase in water efficiency that has happened in the last two decades, rome must considering that you are a farmer, at the same time , i would like to point out that the issue of washing the car with water is correct, but that is not the issue at all. the sixth issue, which is my slogan this year, as my last suggestion, is the issue
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of making things participatory for the people. people, participate , mr. people, stand up, not mr. government affairs make it participatory , let's make the affairs participatory, the people themselves, did we actually say no to the people about the war? the imam said that the fronts need people to participate . thank you very much. of course, you have 30 days left if we want to make it participative, the conflict of interest must be managed. governments should act in harmony. section seven of the general employment policies, which has been going on for more than a decade, 12 years and 13 years, nothing has been done about the coordination of monetary, foreign, financial and commercial policies. someone is doing some kind of action for himself, and there are conflicts of interest, but mashallah, this separation will be done. do you think it can be organized , it will help the system, god willing. thank you very much to
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