in the name of god, greetings, courtesy, respect, service to you , dear and respected viewers, of the higher program with a debate. we are now at your service with the issue of whether to have online supply and online explanation of tires or not, an issue that obviously had many challenges last year. in the continuation of my report , we will present to you that queues were formed , there was a shortage of goods, there were price changes, but anyway, a decision that was considered was that in addition to the usual explanation that exists, we also have the online supply of tires, some believe that this can reduce the queues. it helps people's access to create transparency.

on the other hand, some people believe that this method may have problems in the process and cycle of tire distribution, it may cause fraud , it may create false demand, and other problems mentioned in this program, we want to deal with these issues and challenges. accompany us to the end. thank you very much here in our studio, mr. benanjad, general secretary of snuff chamber. mr. mirzaei, the head of the tire manufacturers' association, is also present as a supporter of the online explanation of tires tires are present. hello and god bless to both guests of the program. before we start the debate, i want to invite the viewers to get a report on the progress of the story that we want to debate about. let's go back to mehdi anari's report and start the debate. we have been coming here for a week now at 4 in the morning.

the pages that were supposed to use the internet queue system. if my roommates agree, yes, we will make a promise that after 3 months still remains as a promise, then at 5 am on wednesday, march 9, you came for tire 5. i hope it will be soon, it's too much

they came from 2:00 in the middle of the night. now it's 5:30 in the same street. go straight to the head of the square . names are written on the paper. now people are standing in front of the screen and registering. after 8:00, the shop opened at 8:00 , and it starts at 8:00. if it is opened , it is all cut off, until 12 o'clock they still haven't given us anything, the officials of the guilds say they have no problem with the implementation of the online sales and appointment plan. remember, in that meeting, it was also discussed that we should create a discussion in the form of online scheduling so that people can enter their information in the background system and the platform should be prepared from on the part of the ministry, how do they put license plates on cars ? they say, sir, be there at such and such a time, you must be there at such and such an hour, take it easy, all these people in khayam are not against it, it was supposed to create an online system, which unfortunately

has not been done yet, that is the problem of the internet at all. you can't register. if my system is solved, all this will be solved within an hour. mehdi anari of sed and sima news agency. what is the reason for your opposition, despite the explanation in the name of god, we operate in the production sector, and basically, the issue of the philosophy of tire consumption is that the consumer does not go to change his tire personally. when he finds a need , he actually goes to a device somewhere and

chooses it based on the amount of need he has in the type of need he has, and immediately gets the service, his tire is replaced , he does the balance, and finally he goes to consume the drug. the consumer comes and makes a purchase he takes a tire, now after how it will be sent to him, then he blinds this tire and takes it somewhere to replace it. well, this is really not a good thing. this is a consumer product. we do this for food. let's go shopping online. well, we don't do this for work. this is a consumer product, and as a rule , the customer should have the right to choose. it should be plentiful. if there is a brand, he can use the brand he needs based on the quality of the budget he has and the type of car he has . we did it because we could put the inflammation to sleep. well, at some point we did this

. if necessary, we will do this again, but my opinion is that the customer should go for a rubber amulet based on needs and possibilities. do your own shopping in the budget that you have, except that you say that now, for example, it is not very good to order tires and online, let's go to another device, what do you see, why this did not happen, the main problem is in the system. we see the business community system that now creates conditions for the customer to authenticate yes, this verification of identity is sometimes done incorrectly , secondly, it is time-consuming and depends on an internet platform, which sometimes is not available in many parts of the country, the infrastructure is not correct, sometimes it takes more than 20 hours, more than 20 minutes. some days, the customer comes to the store, he does not know if the system

will be connected in an hour , or if he can't wait there. the system seems to inquire from several places it is necessary for ford to authenticate whether it is qualified to buy a pair of 1 million tomans tires or not. apart from these other infrastructural challenges that you mentioned, there is another point. well, we are talking about our production in 1402 at some point due to the fact that it is not wide, for example. if this infrastructure is fixed , we don't have any issues or you see a problem. you must see that the problem is deeper, in my opinion, we want things from the customer . now in the same issue, we said a national card , we will make a smart national card, the people will be able to use it. he wants the passport, he also wants the national card for tires, for tires, for example

, he wants a green card, a green card, and a 10-digit number on the green card. well , suppose a person who came for a trip came to tehran during the eid holidays and took the card with him. why do you say that and do you agree that we should have an explanation of tires on the internet and if it is possible that you also mention these orders of mr. mirzaei regarding the infrastructure and the market and that now

it is difficult for people to buy online in the name of allah , the most merciful, the most merciful, greetings to you and mr. dear mirza, i wish you acceptance. i would like to inform you that now the issues that mr. mirzaei told me in my opinion, we should discuss these things later . see, one of us says internet supply. well, we have internet supply now . we have many items of goods and services. they are a trade union. they are working , they have their own goods

, they produce, import, supply and consume. we both agree and we have our own reasons , we say that we should not limit the business space first , because in the real and physical space, people are working as a trade union as a shop. in the same way, it can be in space it is subject to its own special rules and inspections in the matter of clarification. now, as mr. mizai said, i believe that you should also produce a part. problems happen, explanation happens on the head. for this reason, we strongly

agree with the clarification because it is clearly defined in the internet, the clarification of the chain does not matter whether it is online or physically and in the real space. see this was also in your report. it was created, well, there is a good system that can be produced. the importer, importer, and consumer should make this chain clear and tell where the product came from, where it was produced, and where it was supplied to, in any of these circles, but we do not need to we have an indicator, what are those indicators , for example, in the tire sector, our issue is now, well , as a rule, the national code of the owner of that car is the vn or the code on the sheet. the car is registered and that , for example, the mobile phone number that

is in the name of an individual, well, unfortunately, with the start of the trade society system, and the events that happened at the beginning caused obstacles due to the links between the trading community system and part of other sites, the speed was slow, it was definitely happening . now we have called it electronic turn of the decade, pre-registration. registration of these pre-registration facilities should be created for people so that they don't have to wait in front of a shop or even an online store to register their information, which will be interrupted and cause problems . ntsw ntsw. ayr created. people can themselves from their homes from anywhere. if there is an interruption

, they will enter after half an hour and an hour later, they will receive a code as a pre-registration code . with this pre-registration code, they have up to 5 days to visit a trade union and get their goods they are waiting there for this inquiry to be done, or for example, if the party is delayed for half a day, then say, sir, this person is a child, i don't know, he is a minor, or the person is deceased, or there is no affidavit or any other discussion , he can check all this before that and with that code should go to his head, and this is also the trade union limit he registers in the system of the trade community, when he is done , his specifications come and he can deliver the goods to him , which means that it reduces this time, but this is what is happening, which we expect, god willing, that the producers from the initial circle of their production in the system of the trade community will do it correctly. they should enter their products there and explain them correctly. in any case, the supply is through the agency and through their sales agents, and now something has become available

, unfortunately, when it is in short supply , it is offered as a package or as a package . it is and it is popular, it should be offered, it should be sold , it should be sold, the product that is in low demand should stay in its trade unit and keep people's capital there , mr. mirzaei, two points. pointing out one is that you should make your activities transparent now. two, the supply of the basket that you mentioned regarding the clarification issue has been transparent for years. we don't have any problems in this area, although we have some problems, that is, we have to have the system active when we want the cargo , because the driver has to carry the cargo that you want. the registered system should have the document that, well , many times the system is broken and

we find problems with the porters, that is, the porters who hit the load and ask for permission to leave, we don't allow them to leave the factory, so they have to solve their problems again and again we had a problem and got into a fight with the drivers. well, this is a weakness of the system. these problems must be solved, but we do not have this problem in our production area. our production is transparent, and our distribution is transparent to all representatives. we are giving, we are saying what we are saying, we have no problem with the chain being transparent, we are saying that the chain should be transparent, but we are hard to buy. we should have a catch, a customer who has been working traditionally for years or does not have the necessary knowledge to go to the system, to go to this system, he has to go to a series of brokers for him to register and create space, so we have a simple condition. he came to the store , he can be authenticated right there within 5 minutes. we can do whatever we want with his national card. we will let

him send the national card . go get this green card, where can you find it now? like me, i myself, who is the manufacturer , have not worked with our car maker for years, now i want to go and find it, it is really hard work, i have to get it , i can't buy tires anymore. look at the executive . it's like i have to say that i agree that in some parts there are few facilities, in some places we may try. to do these things gradually, that is, with the cooperation we have with the ministry of home affairs, we tried to do these things gradually , so that now, for example, in the sizes above 15, the transparency of the comprehensive trade system will be 40%. we have reached it, we are even negotiating with the ministry to reduce a series of those items and indicators that are in this report

. cut the green and i , the producer, will continue to import, but there are small problems like this , there are small problems, not medium or big problems . you ca n't exclude the main issue. don't you look at what happened last year? what happened, your supply decreased because your price was approved. these friends come and prepare a report and say, sir, there is no tire in the market . they go to the open market and see, for example , there are tires in the virtual space or anywhere else, but where were they accused of high

prices ? come here in any part, whether in the discussion of explanation or in the discussion of production. sir , tell your sales agent how much tires you are looking for, are you looking for a package, are you looking for a package , or are you looking for the amount you need? yes, he goes to him and deals with them without any trouble, but if there is something wrong with the supply and production, at the beginning of the line, the problem will be in the area of ​​guilds, it will be in the area of ​​the market, unfortunately here and... when they say market, you know that you are as an economic person has a definition of the market, the chain of production and import to the consumer is not only the shops , it is not only after wholesale, it is the market, all of these requirements are the same necessary and sufficient condition in this

situation . we also respond to people's needs with our own share. i mean, it is very easy to do this, but well, anyway, this easy task that you say takes more than 20 minutes for the identity verification to be done for me, which i want. now our people are all aware of how they should go to buy tiles. we informed the people, that is, a real consumer knows that these things that you know , which system is it, where should it go? i will go to the system and level it, how can i level it , the national chain, i want to buy tires for myself , i don't know what you are saying, this program

is now an information program, i have it, sir, one the site is in shambles. we want to give a consumer product worth 1 million 5d to the customer . why do we have to make the conditions so difficult that he is willing to spend 3 million tomans or spend half a million tomans in safisa or whatever mechanism you have for him ? he made it clear, i say the mechanism should be simple , can't we do the same thing with the national card in this electronic world that we have today? well, this is not the weakness of our system. look , there are 2 million owners who have a national code, a number of that card. the car is there, nothing is difficult, it's not too difficult to show it, i expect that from you as a producer, come here and tell me, sir

, what did you do in the field of production? look, we are now. yes, we are now something. 30 million tires per year . 31 million, approximately 31 million tires per year . our consumption the system is weak, i mean, well, we are in my production, we have our own system, and when

we open our system, we have people's feedback. can't first when they go to the system, sometimes the wrong purchase is made, that is, let's say the party wants a 13 ring, a 14 ring is bought. there is information, well, we were weak , we didn't provide proper information, our organization has the necessary conditions to be able to do it. we say that the party doesn't want to make a big purchase. we have to pay attention to the size of the purchase. one time we want to go buy a car, we say, mr. nim. at nine o'clock, i am delayed for a day there is no problem. because he is making a purchase with ambition, but for a while, please consider allowing them to disagree with this part of your order . tires are a strategic product. in my opinion, most of

the people who are using the car, or now i often say, many who are using it. they are using it for their sustenance, or it is also used as a passenger or as a cargo, especially in categories 13 and 14, sizes 13 and 14, which are mainly consumed. he swipes his card, swipes his bank card , no other identity protection is done at all, they understand that i want to tell you from the beginning of the month, you go home. how soft you took me, but i didn't understand. it's fine, you

clarify, you clarify , let's remember, people, these are the information and statistics that we use to plan, that is, if the ministry of home affairs is anywhere, it's the chamber of your association or anywhere. they don't have correct information anymore . i can't use the program for my future. there is a problem somewhere, there is a problem with my internet . that we are for the future of our rubber production supply. and how to explain it. well, this information and statistics are useful for us to say that this product does not reach the person who really needs it and

it goes to a depot somewhere. well, this is really unfair to the people. where did this happen? see how it happened. i want to say that this package you have is the black market, for example , see where it came from. i don't want to accuse anyone, it can also be our agency. now, my question is who comes and buys in the system and is a real consumer . can you confirm it? i say. no, the consumer is at least someone who owns a car and a car in my name, i am a person, you say, with a national card, well , i won't have a car tomorrow, my car is not in my name . let's do the same thing, at all , issue so many coins and coupons, for god's sake, we have license plates for them to go and buy, there is no coupon at all, no, now

it's nothing but what you want to say, we say that you identify the consumer. the consumer must first have a balanced market, i will not bother myself should i buy it, put it in the corner of my warehouse, or go to the site , i want to sell it. this is the first big weakness that no one has supported in this chaotic market. let me give you an example. how is fuel being explained now ? fuel is being paid because of the subsidy, which is my mistake, the subsidy. it is not possible to pay where we are. we have almost no goods in production

. it is not a question of subsidy. i say, sir , we give 60 liters of gasoline per month to an ordinary private car , but to a car that is used to transport cargo and passengers , for example, maybe 200 let's give it a liter and it's done, that means we made these two different i mean, we came and said, sir, a consumer who is mainly providing services in the market, as a rule , his fuel should be supplied more, his tires should be supplied in the same way, i will invite my colleagues to prepare a report regarding the other pros and cons, we will see it together, we will come back. we follow the debate. seyyed mohammad gadmagahi, an expert on the tire market, is against the fact that there is no necessary infrastructure for the proper placement of tires in the internet space. on the other hand , internet distribution is not only not effective in reducing the inflammation of the market, but also leads consumers mentally to a path that even if the real need for

if they don't have tires, they should buy them. mohammadreza ganji, head of the tire industry value chain association, agrees: if it is possible for the real consumer to go to a page on the internet , see the specifications of the tires he needs there, and after registering his personal and car information, choose the store . and do your shopping, very well. even with the online ordering method , the customer can be relieved that he has a quota to receive tires. alireza renai, an expert. the tire market, contrary to the market trend, shows that there is no need to explain or sell on the internet now, experience has shown that the systems could not play a role in managing the tire market as they should , when the width is equal to the demand in the market and a reasonable price for tires is considered, the problems in the market will be reduced . gholam alidavi, secretary of the supreme board of supervision of trade union organizations, ministry of the ministry of favorable.

internet distribution and sales in the platform of systems. it can be one of the options to organize the tire market. basically, anything that creates transparency in the chain of production to supply and reduces long queues in the market is supported by the ministry of education. we hope that snuff will also have this preparation . mohammadreza alsara, head of the opposition tire dealers union. selling tires on the platform of internet systems cannot completely solve the problems in the market. consumers like to see different types of tires in the market and ask the salesperson before buying. more important than internet explanation is to balance supply and demand. mehdi omidred, speaker and member of the board of directors of the chamber of trade unions of iran. the centralization of the tire supply system for consumers, along with face-to-face sales, with activities on the electronic platform, is the most favorable method of tire distribution it is because being system-oriented next to

face-to-face sales. it will increase the transparency in the explanation system and increase the quality and services . you can see where it comes from. i will go back to the original width where i divided the topic into two parts. on the topic of online sales, i said that there is no problem with online sales, any of the platforms that exist in the virtual space can sell their goods. the way he is selling mobile phones, the way he is selling chips and puffs, he can sell tires as well, but anyway there is opposition in tires, yes, now that he is already competing with each other, but no, i wanted to say that it is a blessing. one