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in public universities, in any case , there are high-quality students. in private universities, there are low-quality students , and that's why we currently act like this. charter students are conditional , we support them . we have educational facilities for student welfare in our islamic azad university and in our other non-governmental universities, he is studying in line with kishore province, he has the right to be supported, and the necessary quality is also supporting him, because it is called islamic azad university , because it is non-governmental. not when in macro let's look at the country's decision-making. these huge resources are directed towards a government university. well , in fact, the suggestion and premise of mr. doctor , who is a researcher at the majlis research center, is that the government, not the ministry of science, is obliged to provide financial support to non-governmental sectors. he should have his own , sir, it is true, but now and our discussion
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is actually about this issue of educational justice, well , whatever it is, then definitely the same budget that the government is allocating to the ministry of science, with all the difficulties, is it to in your opinion, is it fair between a non-government university or a tuition-paying university? public universities and students who don't pay tuition are being divided or not, the main question for us is whether this budget should be used with fairness and accountability, taking into account all the factors you mentioned, now at the university level, now at the student level. is this budget being distributed fairly and should it be allocated to all universities , or should it only be seen by the universities , clarify all the universities, now the concern of your excellency, and perhaps for example the viewers, is that the credit of the ministry of science is explained fairly among its own universities. we consider the whole student students, the origin of this number of credits is something else.
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from the per capita calculation of daily students, it is legal to have ten students, see the credit of daily students, the formula for calculating the budget of universities is in this order, that is , the government has not given any support to the ministry of science for night students or tuition-paying students. to say that the number is not high, dear doctor , the credit that is determined for universities, every year , our research institute firstly collects the statistics of day students, not night students. they don't even take seniority, that is , they don't take undergraduate students who have been there for more than four years . the number of students in a university is correct. it is defined based on whether it is a bachelor's degree, a master's degree, or a doctorate. it is defined as about 36 million tomans per undergraduate student per year. a master's degree is about 76 tomans and a doctoral student is 90 million tomans to taksim university. it is given, of course, this
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is the base number, then add to this, for example , suppose the per capita ratio of the physical space that is valid, the number of their faculty members, the number of their employees , this base number will increase based on this. therefore, in this non -governmental student equation formula, it is not seen that what is the basis for this , mr. basically, i think the origin of this basis can be the constitution itself, which defines free institutions. no, i don't agree with the doctor's words, especially that they say that these credits are done per capita according to the law and not only for the daily university, mr. doctor , mr. doctor, the constitution requires clarity in this , especially mentioning the law, maybe this is the basis, no, no, mr. doctor in any case, you must be precise when we say the law, mr. doctor, allow it see, the lowest allocation of credit is per capita
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. the lowest means you count how many students are studying in which university, what is the quality of the credit, is it in line with my goals, is the income decile of this household low or high , it is not necessarily like this, mr. doctor, now in universities have no difference between a student with a low income perception and a student with a high income perception, in terms of their well-being or their nutrition, mr. doctor , see the truth . it is not clear that our viewers jump to a branch in every question it's boring to see if you know exactly what that statement is, it's easier to understand that higher education budget for all students is the budget of the ministry of science . higher education is the budget of the ministry of science for all students, students of the whole country . listen again, the budget of the ministry of science is for all the students of the country, you accept this , allow me
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, mr. doctor, when we are talking in eshel and in the country's educational system, the ministry of this program is not only related to the ministry of science, the constitution mr. doctor, allow us to put it in the middle of the phrase , is the budget of the ministry of public education not to say higher education, mr. doctor, so please correct your question. it is a question of yes or no for all students . what is the definition of education budget ? let's come to the middle of the institutions responsible for education, what about the ministry of health, yes, the ministry of science, yes, these are two separate institutions. you see, when we look at the science and technology research institution, the tasks of this institution are to educate students. a demand that from here, we are based on that minimum budget , by the way, i want to talk like this, mr. doctor, help me with my discussion, mr. doctor, look at
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our per capita student in the country, at best, a doctoral student is 90 million tomans, help me , how much is this per capita in other countries? i took a look. let me help you. per capita student in a country next to us , which is our regional competitor, called turkey, is 300 million tomans. it is correct. this regional per capita is our competitor and per capita student. it is possible for azad university to see the program it is advisable to do this for other universities. do this, but what is now under the title of the ministry of science, research and technology is not the ministry of science, research and technology of higher education , mr. taher niam, let me ask a more basic question, basically, how many students do we have in the country? give us an accurate statistic and this number of students. how much of it is under the ministry of science, how
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much of it is under the ministry of health, how many are free universities, and how many of them are institutions and institutions that themselves have started to establish universities or colleges. the student cultivates, see we should not equate the definition of higher education with the ministry of science. your statement is necessarily correct. it means that in fact, what is the number of our student population in higher education in the country? there is also the ministry of health, which is not the reason for the ministry of science . therefore, the student population of higher education in the country is 3 million and about 40 thousand students. out of these 3 million and 240 thousand students, about 1 million and 20 to 30 percent of them are islamic azad university. a million and a half ministries the sciences of the ministry of science include specialized universities such as
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sharif university, community universities such as tehran university, and national universities such as technical vocational university , applied scientific university, and university. what you said is that only this one million and 500 thousand students was directly based on a part of that one and a half which is the day students
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funded by the organization of the next program. part of the expenses of the second-time students, of which about 70,000 are second-time students in this one million and 500. the main question. is this allocation fair, mr. doctor? you ask the doctor the exact simple question to say no, it is not fair, then you ask them the reason, mr. doctor, mr. doctor, they themselves point out very easily 1500 students under the supervision of the ministry of science, now of this 1500 how many percent of them are daily government students who are from 45 sources? it is correct that it is the islamic azad university, and counting about 50% of this number, that is , 800,000. do you
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mean that this is fair? teacher's right and teaching budget for education students except tehran university and sharif university, all their duty is to train students, the money that the ministry of sharif university. he takes it for his projects , he uses it for his research work, that's it , let's see, let's not make a mistake, we are fair to apologize to your excellency, i was talking to you , they also sign a contract with another device
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, and they take it again. the constitution is not implemented, this duty and this defect, however, the performance does not go solely to the ministry of health sciences, but to all the institutions in charge of education that the organization of the program as the trustee of the resource allocation and the ministry of science and the ministry were found. the other institution is also a credit that is given to maidan university or the ministry of science. it is not only for student education. student education is a part of the task of student education. research is the solution of society's problem, serving the development. your city , the service of your province is one of the tasks of the universities . don't imagine that, sir. for example, if we divide a text by, for example , let's assume that we have 8000 students, it will be money . sir, this money is not spent in this way. this money
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is spent on research, it is spent on services, it is spent on regional development , of course. a major part of it is spent on student education excuse me, i said this again because i wanted to clarify, very well, not completely right , please see, mr. doctor, in any case , as the deputy minister and head of the research institute, please tell me whether this number of students in the ministry of science is accepted based on the goals and needs of the country. should they use government assistants? do they all have the same quality? is their quality necessarily higher than the students of other non-dairy universities that you are obliged to support only mine ? and the ministry of science with a shortage the existing budget takes the number of students as much as it can financially support the students
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, take students, look at you from us, you mean the society rightly wants the universities to compete with the world , yes, compete in different fields and solve their problems within me. now, our question is that we want to compete with our neighboring country in the fields of scientific authority. we should compare our student population with them. the last census has 85 million people. yes, the population of turkey, mr. doctor , is a little less than 85 million. the population of turkey is 85 million . what is the student population of iran? i said 3 million. i don't know how many students per thousand of turkey's population , but you say that our students should be much less. for your information, i will tell you that in iran it is 38 out of 100. our student population means that 38 out of every thousand people are students, that is, out of 85 million people
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, we have 3 million, 240,000 students. in turkey , 89,89 percent of them are students, which means that out of 85 million people, they have 8,200,000 students. twice us, yes, our population is the same, but twice, i don't want to say that it is ideal, but i want to say that the idea that we don't have money now is knowledge. don't worry, this is not a correct idea, sir sir, if our credits are not responsive, then don't take students, i'm sorry , so what should we do with the constitutional assignment, by the way, help me, mr. doctor , our constitutional assignment, long before mr. doctor said the subject, mr. doctor, in my opinion, excuse me , see an article was made here. have you compared the student population of one country with another country ? have you felt the unemployment rate of my students? is there economic development, development capacities that can attract these students ? can you be from us?
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did you pay attention to the competition over the production of science ? did you pay attention to this issue when he says that in the indus region upstream of the indus, he says that in the region it should not be compensated by quantity, mr. doctor, allow me, doctor, i have a service statistic from the office of communication with industry of the ministry of science in 1402 from the student population that the doctor says, associate degree 6 bachelor's degree 56 master's degree 63 doctorate 76, that is, you should consider an average of 30% of our students are unemployed. i do n't think that is true. the resources should be reduced, the resources found in vocational training, the vocational training resources should grow and reach international standards. but mr. doctor, what is the problem and we need to fix it is the explanation of the mechanism
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. the works of those priorities that are sufficient are those priorities that the map of the society is a condition , let us explain the budget of the universities based on these indicators , but when the budget of the universities, despite the services provided by the people's government, still 90% of it goes to the salaries of mr. doctor, see if the budget is adequate we have to be able to enter these qualitative variables into it. i completely agree with you in the current situation because the budget is so large you don't have the opportunity to maneuver and be creative. you have to pay 80% of your staff's salaries for the time being. therefore , your order is very good . if the education portfolio is instead of 3% of the entire country's credits, for example, 7%, then let's say yes, 3 % is the limit. we give the necessary prerequisites for everyone. we give the rest based on performance evaluation, based on
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operational effectiveness, based on social effectiveness, based on research quality. yes, this is the idea. in the 7th plan, the progress of the transformational and content laws is predicted to be good, but not at the level that we will come to. finally, the government itself should see the income portfolio of its resources. i want a point, it is in the form of a question , of course it is an important point, see if the resources we have are being used optimally or not. the very important fields that
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have won all the highest honors of the country in various fields of industrial technology, even military, have been reduced from the perspective of the efforts of the professors. unfortunately we don't know our politics, really , we didn't plan our mechanisms and activities in such a way that we could support those priorities of the country, now the number of olympian students is decreasing day by day , unfortunately, compared to the sixth development plan, and we are taking students in some fields for free. they do it, which is basically not necessary . when we get so many students in that field , can you give an example or not? no, it's not sela , the fact is, it's not sela. my example is very clear , mr. doctor. go
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and see first of all how we compare ourselves. we have to compare the bases of our theory with other countries we cannot compare ourselves with a capitalist country. in a capitalist country, the logic of managing their resources is the logic of liberalism, the logic of economic profit and loss, the logic of materialistic thinking, so they say
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that this group is profitable or not . . the logic and discourse of the islamic revolution is the discourse of seeking justice, the discourse of social justice, the discourse of seeking independence, we have to pay for this, in this part of social justice, then we are forced to spend somewhere, even if it does not seem to have any benefit or loss from the tasks. the constitution has three important principles for us . you can see in the constitution that the provisions of the constitution must be used. what are we , as a government, we have 3 principles of the constitution, mr. doctor, help me, one of the 30th principles of the constitution, one of the 43rd principles of the constitution, if i ask about these 3 principles, mr. the number of our current students is high and it should be reduced. this will mean that no , you are making a mistake. manage, lead. why, look
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at the key words in these decrees, which are in principle 43 of the constitution , the use of science and technology and the training of skilled people in proportion to the need for development and we discuss economic progress we examine one of the most important and real concerns of the supreme leader of the revolution in the area. economics, yes, and in the field of economics, we have a problem, so now the question of the doctor , let's look at the field of economics, the difference between the education of unemployed students and not accept them, or by the way , we need a new word in the field of economics. we need a new word. the new statements above, but also find a solution for our economy. why, because here he is saying that education is needed for the development and progress of the economy. dear, in article 30 of the constitution, they say that if the budget is one of the principles that are explained and
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its interpretation should not be oppressed . this is one of the good principles of the constitution. we at bachesh institute are our colleagues in the educational program. key. there is a word for general education, which means education, it says to provide facilities for all the nation until the end of secondary school, what does that mean, you know that this year you have 200 thousand first grade students, next year it will be 200 thousand second grade, so you have 200 thousand capacity. you want to base two it's not like that in the university. in the university , not necessarily all those who get a diploma this year may not go to the university, so he says about the university that the means of higher education are up to the limit. the whole country should expand it for free, it means that you have to have a budget, be flexible when you have a demand or in a field you need to create capacity for students to come, it's not like general education for all
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third grade or fourth grade. to what extent is self-sufficiency , mr. doctor, self-sufficiency has one small aspect, that is , we do not need to import doctors from abroad. there is no need to import an engineer from abroad , there is a quantitative part and a qualitative part. mr. doctor, when the three main principles mentioned by mr. doctor are the third principle of educational consolidation and generalization, the principle of siam, the discussion of the expansion of free education until the speed of self-sufficiency. it means that the human resources are suitable for the needs. are our students currently being trained based on the needs assessment of the aim? no
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, it is not necessarily like this. the basis of bargaining or identifying people. the important point is that you think about the main wire of the constitution i would like to point out that the center institute is at least 2 years behind this issue. the country has been able to train manpower in accordance with the economic, agricultural and cultural sectors. if this is not the case, if above this, we should reconsider . however, with all these expansions, we should reconsider that our resources in the field of education are optimal for the purpose of
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the field. it is true that it is not welcome. we must create external motivation, not only basic subjects for priority fields like the same philosophy that i mentioned. the rationality of society arises from philosophy. if the labor market does not have it, we must let's support others. basically, our system is a value system in a value system. support for fields is not just economic , it's not just profit and loss and the labor market. the labor market is important, but it's not the first and last word. i 'll sum it up like this. let me tell you that , based on the above documents, like the constitution itself, the 3 main ones that i mentioned, as well as note d of article 97 of the 7th progress plan
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, oblige us to pay attention to the 7th progress plan. it is especially true for the humanities and basic sciences. well, paying attention to the humanities with its closure, which will not happen with its development , will happen with more support. we can't say more, better, better, sir , reduce the cost, then, for example , we will have a better quality output, so the task of the documents above us leads us to increase our budget and manage it optimally. the discussion of comparing our student population as i said, in the countries of the region, we have two main competitors, one of them is turkey. i said saudi arabia, both of them are far ahead of us in terms of quantity, and we should pay attention to this population ratio and not lose the index in our analysis. if our index is social justice, it is a different kind. we look at the issue if our indicator is economic issues and let me tell you the benefits and losses of these are the results, the result will be something else, while the task of my documents is the same as the constitution, increasing the awareness and knowledge of the society also passes through the university and students. thank you very much
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, sir. thank you very much. state universities and they have the resources and subsidies of the government, if the 9th and 10th 37th tenths of our constitution, as a common covenant of all of us , did not say this and did not want this, basically , how will it be different in our practice and implementation, unfortunately, i made this fair, i will tell you three to three principles of education finance, one is efficiency, quality and justice. the important thing is that i want to serve you a quality student a student whose income decile is known and
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is in line with the country's priorities. any university that wants to study can be found in the ministry of science or maybe in other universities in our provinces. we have to support them. we have to empower them. it's not just that we have a framework in the name of government institutions to support them, it's necessary that the resources allocated to education, which are currently 72 percent of our ged, grow and increase to cover this issue. thank you very much, thank you very much, and thank you for accompanying us until the end, until we meet again, god bless you. or higher today.
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