health, we, who are over 70 years old, have not been invited by the association in any way, and above that, according to the explicit text of the law on the organization of the medical system, according to article 3, a member must be present in all these cases, and invite them to a meeting. if you don't see this thing that came out, when we, who are the main experts in this field, will see the rest, well, with this short introduction that we discussed and talked about, i invite all the viewers, if they are interested in this discussion, to stay with us until the end. we are from kh. you are with the higher program with the subject of explanation online daru, the supporters and opponents who are present , here are two of the actors of this field , mr. sabour

, i said an introduction to explain the reason for the opposition. is it a letter or is it with the entry of companies and platforms that exist, in the name of allah, the most merciful, the most merciful? first of all, i would like to greet you dear ones, in fact, you invited us on the radio and television, of course, i think this is a good sign for us , although you said about dignity. in fact, the decline of our presence here, but i think it is politics in general, in the absence of real actors, in fact, that field cannot be realized in a real way, and in this sense, i really think that the dignity of people like us is declining now.

there are definitely more knowledgeable and worthy people who can sit here and speak with a way of thinking that is actually based in a part of the government. from this point of view, i am actually happy in this sense. it is a general policy, that is, according to the naming of the previous year, in order to make the most of this year, it has been introduced. yes, for in fact , a law was passed to increase production through knowledge bases, and this law was actually divided into different sectors in a regulatory system, one

was political, one understood a need in the society, this was actually a political and sovereign view, and in fact it was announced through the highest political authority of the country and its law was named. the regulations were actually compiled and it was the use of knowledge bases, so i deeply believe that as i see it, fortunately , the management and political bodies are now acting to express and really implement that political will within the framework of the laws and regulations. what is that increase? production through knowledge bases through virtual space that we can't really say how much

we did for their presence . the work of virtual space is a blessing in the area that was missing for years in our legal system, which is actually a kind of lack. it would make the economic activists reluctant to attend or create criminal responsibilities for them. for this reason, it is a blessing, mr. sabour. you see, our biggest challenge now is policy making. those who are writing and announcing laws in this field do not know the drug. our biggest challenge is that they see the drug as a normal product and what will happen. we got a wrong policy in 2009. i

gained about 250 years of experience. in 2009 , his boss was someone else. we went there to talk to mr. pejmanfar twice for two and a half hours. we said that we left in 2019, that is, we said that if these politicians implement these policies, we will find a drug problem, we were an antibiotic exporter, we became an importer, and it took 8 months for them to come to our word. if it is a strategic product, we say that it should be seen as a special product of a special law, now you have it. the minister of health and he do not make you a member at all and invite him as a guest. now anyone from the commission from the ministry of health does not have the right to vote. after all, for our area, which is a health area , which is so important, the world

sees this in a very special way. in the so-called most open economy of the world, you should go to the drug, the drug is special, we are different , now we have a problem, these friends, for whom i was the commission of principle 90, last monday, i was really embarrassed because the friends there made the decision. for me, first of all, all those who tested positive were invited by the chairman of the main commission, his deputy, mr. khezrian, and the chairman and the minister of communications. whoever was there, i apologize . they did not know the difference between drugs and supplements. they don't know the difference between registration and registry. i don't have a problem with the presence of these friends, but i say that the law should be written in a certain way, the actors should be clear. there is no problem with the age, see look at the principle , other countries in the world have been doing this since the 70s

. other countries are 20 years ahead of us. well, you go join 20 countries and see what they have done. then come localize and see what we can do for the country. let islamic iran be proud, not like other projects, let's move forward without study attachments. in a year, now we can remember the name of the health transformation plan. can we say in more detail, for example , this paragraph has problems because of this? or look at the first problem of maintaining the confidentiality of people's information. has this been seen? no, the second problem is that it's really a medicine that reaches the people. in the end

, i say that you should read surah al-rahman , there is a verse in it, rabbi, you are a liar. i said whatever i said , the continuation is the same, which means that i have no problem with online sales of medicine with the introduction of this technology, because now i am accused of being traditional because my friends, mr. deputy minister of communications, who are old, don't know cyberspace at all. dad, you are old. now don't tell me, my younger brother, who was mechanized in the 70s. why are we talking like this? you didn't have a meeting with us, see confidentiality. yes, the finished price of the product must be specified the originality of the product should be seen in the information that we have to give to the patient. look at some of the patients . it has specified the world or this . my writing is that there are 1650 pharmacies here . look at us, don't count people. i'm telling you

, don't invite the medical system organization. how can you not invite the main organization of such a big plan? then sit down and write a constitution. this is for you. let me say that i have 100 documents i have a documentary about how the world has reached this point after 20 years that this way of going was wrong , they came into the game with the way that saka and the so-called platforms came into the game because they say medicine, no, look, they don't have a problem in principle, we don't have a problem either, we say. this whole package of our bridge, look , we have a writing version, we have a screw version, we have a submission, right. we say that you should see this in a single system. i am 100% in favor of the private sector because i have been working there for 30 years. i have 80 people working there . send one, be sure. now, i have patients

who have been suffering from this designer for two years. my patient, who was taking his medicine 19 years ago, is now coming to me and saying, mr. doctor, why is my information in a certain place ? go there, take it from me. no one knew that i have ms at all, we say, i want to say that this is a failed infrastructure that we have, this work is not progressing at all, mr. qaho chiyan, i thank mr. sabour. i gave the explanations, but i , as a citizen , as a member of society, in commerce or e-commerce, and as a lawyer, if admit it, in fact, we law students are actually a bit of a contradiction, i will say this as a member of the health commission of district d, the most abortions in iran, even though we say that the population is the type of young population,

go see who has the most abortions, and who has the medicine, so please explain them, mr. doctor. we want to come and talk about a public issue in the public space. sir, the ministry of health has written many times about this issue. allow me to conclude this. i think that this is the time for you to judge with the people, that is, my child. if by chance, the specialized commission that belongs to the ministry of health in it's not happening, give me four minutes, mr. qaho

please tell me, none of these actually have an understanding of first of all the discussion of medicine and economy, mr. engineer , let me know that i don't know what to do about you, if you let me speak for a few minutes, let me see the time of mr. qahuchian's speech, if no one is actually an expert. only probably one trade union and one organization and one organization in the country are experts. we don't have any experts in the ministry of health, in the parliament, in the government, in the private sector . let's just leave it to the experts. experts too which are only trusted by you, i

would like to tell you the history, mr. doctor. look, right now , based on this incident, we are standing here. you and i are actually talking to each other. dear viewers, the regulations have reached the final stage. allow me. allow me, i can't understand that you are disagreeing about a regulation.

how are we at a point where the health minister has relations with the minister, definitely more than you.

like public participation in determining the economic destiny, with which the naming of this year has a very close connection, removing the unfair discrimination, dr. allow me, i know you don't have a problem, let me conclude my concept, like actually removing the unfair discrimination between the online sector . the online part has come to an economic part, it will actually help to meet the needs of that part of the traditional part, usually you are protesting in online taxis in stores and goods distribution platforms, your opinion should not be taxed , i am this old man of correct economics, we are mechanics at all. we did that we couldn't

make an electronic version, let it be the old age of the economy correct economics based on fact.

many of them can be found in the term social justice, private sector, and by the way, e-commerce economy actually has an internet sector and virtual businesses . they do this through fair access. we went for eid with my wife. we went to the city of cha, that province , which is really beautiful. it took us seven or eight hours to reach iran city. it was a long way, and when we went to goatar, it was 7-8th until there. i will tell you this issue. and it has the possibility to create a platform that will be able to serve

its people all over the borders of our beautiful country. our whole discussion was this. we said that we have a proposal for the center. i want to beautify our country based on the principles of the constitution . we are coming to help. let us do this service to our citizens, let us do this service to our citizens let's make it so that even in goiter in sistan in ilam

, i'll just say one thing and give it to you. i would like to see you, as one of the supplier platforms that you want to do this , put forward a few points about the shortcomings of this regulation and this method of supply, one of which is to maintain confidentiality , the final price, the originality of the product, the patient's information, how to send 5 how to raise this very serious challenge, which is criticized by pharmaceutical manufacturers the pharmacy has a medical system. yes, the medical system . answer this point in one minute. one minute i will say this point and then i will say this . look, we sold 9,000 sports supplements only, mr. doctor. are all four original? i can

tell you about the point that i asked as a weakness, for example, one of the weak points in the new regulation was in the new regulation, and now i think we should be a little more technical. i really appreciate your opinion. we want you to answer our questions. the field of supplements is not separated from the field of medicine. supplements are a large part of actually goods. the issue of virtual businesses in the country , virtual businesses actually have a license , they don't need permission from the food and drug organization anymore

, this is a very good point in my opinion , because we, as a part of our government system, trust we have unions, we say that, sir , it is a platform like the current platforms for the distribution of goods, although all the rules must be followed. i am proud that if the country wants to be proud of it in the field of medicine , your capillary network is the farthest point of the country where you can go. we have a pharmacy, we have an over-the-counter drug wherever you want, at a single price for the whole country, this is one of the honors. the islamic republic of iran, which is doing this , is talking about supplements, saying that over 15 years of age

, supplements are not a problem in the ministry of health. i know something else, i am saying that if it is really the person who is sitting up there as my father, now we call him the ministry of health, let him be whatever we want . he knew about us he used to invite legal discussions , he used to meet everyone at the same table, he knew everyone's words, and based on what he did in the world , something good would come out, now our problem is that you have been doing this underground for 2 years in front of alki alki , put the catering organization to work, you have a mirror behind it, you write it as soon as their bylaws come up , throw out the catering bylaws, bring up their own bylaws , you see what karver company said, it is a company that has registered more than 10 million people. ok, call it knowledge-based companies, where is it knowledge-based?

they have more than 100 turnover, he called it danesh baniyan company, then he said that the companies that can do this can even have 50 foreign shares , you can see what i will call all these companies, what are their names? i am saying that this is what the world has done. you can go to japan and see what he has done. norway has lived with the electronic version since 2007 until it was abandoned. let me talk. norway started its system in 2023. they have statistics

. they have statistics . look at the data i'll tell you a little thing, assuming that my blood is karaj because they have a family doctor, check the structure of each patient. the family doctor has come to every region, the patients are registered , the pharmacies around those patients have files . if i go to dr. x, who is my family doctor , the pharmacy knows that i have this disease . that's all i'm talking about. i don't have a problem with this system . i say, sir, come on. prepare this infrastructure , especially the register of the patients , why should the transplanted patients come up in the street of the patient, which now you, iran, for example, said, you have raised several objections. this system has its biggest problem. i said that one of them is the registration system. now look, i will tell you one thing . now, warfarin is the country's deficit. it is true that the government, with all the problems it has

, has imported 3 times the country's needs into the market. it is consumption, not import, that which is mostly imported . why do we have a national deficit? because everyone has the same code. nationally, in these applications, they pay 30 tomans, 10 tomans , they get a syrian prescription, they go to get the medicine, you have a public registration , you can see that there are wall networks

, i don't have a problem with a network, because friends don't know what they are doing, the infrastructure is ready. identify me as a cancer patient in the system register my name. i want to know what the medicine is. i say that every month i will take the medicine to him at home . when it is registered in your system, it is not registered. i say, sir, this is the same titak, father, it is three months, go and check the warfarin for one month. they are selling, can our country tell us how much? at the end of your speech, it is usually the result of inference and understanding that you actually do not agree, mr. doctor, let me talk a little more about this issue

. especially now, i think this point is a little too much, our dear people are listening to us it was not ethical that you took the name of case and business here to your software. i have to take others who really got into this game. no, i say do n't charge me. there should be a little more in the googles, in my opinion

, in fact, in different parts of the country , they are deprived of the lack of quick and easy access to the economy, at a reasonable price, mr. doctor, by the way , you know yourself to be zenift . darus.