basically, in the field of agriculture, in the field of minerals , especially, and in other fields, we tried to identify their good exporters in africa, from this point of view, well, we are in various technical and engineering fields, in the field of health, in the field of agriculture, in the field of industry. food in the oil , gas and petrochemical fields, whether downstream or upstream in the metal industry fields, we have tried to look at the story from both sides in all these fields, and we have invited as far as possible. let's make it possible to negotiate with them in these areas. very well , we will go into details again. we will hear more from you dear mr. dariush safarnejad, expert on international issues, i greet you, mr. dr. safarnejad. please tell me what are the bilateral capacities of iran and african countries and how can they be strengthened. what are the obstacles to the development of communication and how can these obstacles be removed and the communication

can be made stronger and better. hello, i wish you and dear viewers a good night. in the name of god. i would like to ask you to see africa, the continent of africa with its characteristics geographically, economically, commercially, even scientifically, culturally and politically, it is one of the areas that must be considered. seriously , it should be placed in the islamic republic, africa has been one of the least-attentioned regions in the last two decades, anyway, it is a valuable and emerging continent, as i said in the studio, in the upcoming process with this continent , great achievements have been made, including the study of relationships and the representation of breathing space. new in different dimensions. despite

the long-term sanctions imposed on the islamic republic by the west, we should consider using bilateral and multilateral opportunities in the field of diplomacy. you are aware that this is one of the issues and parameters that the honorable 13th government has been paying attention to, looking to the east, paying attention to new areas of opportunity in the world's affairs. multilateralism should also be considered in this field. well, multilateralism itself is looking at africa as a single group. well, you know that the islamic republic is also an observer member of the african union . anyway, this is a very good opportunity for us to play a serious role. let's face in different fields on the level of this continent, a vast continent full of the capacities that can be the source of the effect for even

synergy in the fields of academics, scientific fields , economic fields, and as it was mentioned in the term , we should not only look at zero as a market for our consumption, in fact, the view of cooperation is the view of fellow workers. the trends in africa are very good for our country . another point i would like to mention is that africans are the only people who have very good memories. as you know, africans mostly do not have good memories of foreigners, they are mainly memories of colonialism and exploitation. but iranians have always been throughout history throughout africa, wherever they have been, the origin of development services. now, in different regions of america and africa, we are witnessing the construction of so-called iranian buildings, which still stand as a manifestation of development and so-called even technology.

in the area of ​​water transfer, road area and similar areas , they look at it. in general, people in africa, in different regions of africa, because africa itself has 5 regions, now i will not open the discussion due to time constraints, in general, they have very good memories of the same. few relationships that during the so-called history with the iranians today, we can use this as an opportunity for the future process . today in africa, a 50-year document to consider for development. this development is in various scientific and economic fields. to reach this 50 -year document, which is from 2013 to 2063, various parameters have been considered. in the first step , there is a 10-year development plan in the field of science and technology in africa. well, you know that the islamic republic is also in these areas. it has letters. we

are one of the advanced countries in the world and one of the society in the fields of foundational knowledge and scientific and technological fields our goal is that we need these so-called facilities. there are legendary services and areas of knowledge , the african region can be, on the other hand , we also have needs that africa can provide , from minerals, jewelry and gold, to all kinds of raw materials needed in our industry and production to products. livestock and agriculture, in fact , our view of africa is a win-win, a synergistic view, this can create a good synergy in the course of history, considering the good memories that africans have of the presence of iranians in different regions. a breathing space and it can be a good breather for our economic field , especially if the people are added to this so-called myth, you know that good political relations

exist when they have two attachments, economic, cultural and popular. so, what was the first step? the first step was that last year, in 1402 , the islamic republic unilaterally canceled visas with about 40 countries in the world, in order to create a study in people's communication, some of these countries are countries in the african continent, which, god willing, should definitely develop because it joined the people and we can definitely strengthen the culture this year and the next year, along with those economic connections, there is also a time when, in addition to our most important companies, companies that are dependent on our macro economy, technology and industry. no , our private sector, god willing, will get to know this space and know that the image that exists in africa today is not the image that we iranians have in our minds, and it is very different. in different parts of africa, we have very good capacities that

we can win. let's look at it, while considering the embargo that the western world has provided for us, this can be a very good gateway for the field of employment both in the field of business and in the field. commerce is also used in the field of monetary exchange and financial banking. i would also like to say one last thing : the rest of the african countries are members of brics. we can cooperate with them in this field as well. internationally , we are also present and active together with africans. inshallah, this cycle will be held and we will receive good omens for the movement of this cycle.

we are happy to be in iran. in the past, we had economic relations with iran, but now we are looking for them we are solutions to develop and expand these relationships. these visits and meetings strengthen the relations and knowledge of the two countries. we are strengthening this image, which, god willing, will increase the trade circulation and economic activities between iran and these countries. welcoming iran and the presence of this in such a situation. the businessman is a symbol of the stability and growth of the country in the field of business and, god willing, business relations. the formation of a complementary economy depends on the activities of both sides, not to say exactly, everyone around mr. raisi, recognizing the weakness and identifying the obstacles and removing them

along with detailed planning according to the climate of each country. he mentioned the country as one of the important issues between iran and africa. shipping lines should be strengthened, airlines should fix the problem. financial and monetary transfers, whether through bank transfers or with caution, and in any way they are regulated, these are among the infrastructures that are necessary, and in two to three months at most, all these three problems should be solved. the president said that the number of economic exchanges the amount of one billion dollars is not suitable for africa, which was announced here, and efforts should be made to increase this capacity by 10 times. in the first step, we have to move to a number 10 times this amount with the whole of africa, we have 10 thousand knowledge-based companies we are in iran thanks to the guidelines of the supreme leader of the islamic revolution, and their exports so far

, only the companies of our academics , are almost 2 billion dollars. he described the work of his ministry and considered one of the important means of establishing financial and banking relations between iran and africa is the exchange of goods. dear and precious viewers, have a good time . we are following tonight's conversation on the topic of examining the commercial and economic capacities of iran and africa. a dear guest has been added to our group. i would like to welcome mr. ok michael buffy, deputy minister of industry and trade of the republic of qena , and first of all i would like to ask how he evaluates the commercial and economic situation of iran. thank you for giving me this opportunity.

in fact, they are ready to create an alliance among themselves

and economically they are almost on the same page and become a big market and their gross national product is more than 2.6 trillion dollars , and according to the population of africa, it is almost there are 2 billion people, africa is a big continent. iran has also entered an area that can have many benefits ok , it has a very high potential for itself and also for the opposite side of africa, we have made a lot of efforts and iran has actually proven itself to be true to itself by trading and interacting with africa. sideways for both parties , africa will benefit from trade and commerce with iran

because it has had this experience before and there are opportunities in iran for africa , on the other hand, in africa , there are opportunities for iran. what we have seen in iran shows that iran can it is easy to interact with africa and this is very happy for us. one more thing. what i want to add is that many countries actually follow diplomacy at different levels. economic diplomacy is one of the aspects of this diplomacy and we know from us in ghana that coming here now can bring us many benefits. it has to be accompanied and iranians can express it to qena. this relationship is actually two-way and it can benefit both parties . therefore. we must try to improve our economic diplomacy

let's improve our relations so that our countries become closer to each other. very well, dr. qanazadeh and mr. michael buffy point to an economic diplomacy and a convergence and grouping of iran with african countries. for this to happen, we need a special economic model. please tell me that you are in your organization and in this meeting and on the sidelines. have you arrived at a model that supposes that this model can replace the relations that we had with africa in the past, that is, a new model that will be a successful driver to reach the diplomacy that african countries are looking for? yes, of course. mr. michael buffy well, the african union means the 54 five countries that exist, well, they are forming an alliance in this union , and well. he pointed out issues that

we can strongly play a role in. one of the most important issues is that they are trying to have 60% of the intra-continental trade from their domestic products in africa, so this is a unique opportunity for us to be able to through investment through the implementation of joint projects through joint production with these countries to that big market. and now there are 34 billion people and more than 1200 billion let's earn dollars. well, this is an issue that definitely needs to be given special thought , mr. specifically, let's assume that we have a communication model with china, a commercial communication model, let's say that it was discussed in the same conference yesterday , it is established with pakistan, sri lanka. what about this new model, let's go to the africans. yes, that's what i wanted to achieve . look, in africa, as i said earlier

, africa has many rich resources. it is one of the best models that a successful model has experienced. there are some countries that can be said to be successful in working with africa by investing in africa's primary resources, trying to exploit these resources properly through joint production or intra-continental connections, and then in return , they should export the finished goods to the african continent, a very large consumer market because iran has made great progress in technology , one of the opportunities that we will discuss a lot in these few days. the format of the panels that now, if i have the chance, i will explain that from this is our serious opportunity, we will transfer technology , transfer knowledge, transfer technology , try to play a serious role in the process of industrialization and industrial development of africa, and in return, we will be able to provide

primary resources, and we will be able to establish this two-way relationship with africa in reality. we have identified these areas. in the form of working groups , god willing, it will be found, god willing, mr. michael buffy, what are the different african countries, especially the country of qana, the land of opportunities ? what message do you have for iranian businessmen? what opportunities do you think can be available to iranian businessmen? have a good two-way interaction with your country and other african countries. see , africans today are very ready . they are different from africa in the past. now our economy has changed from a primary resource economy to a commercial economy . before we want to export anything, we will process it a bit. qanai has placed it in a very good position in terms of trade and we can continue doing things with this country

. you can continue with africa in the current situation. i want to tell iranians that qena is a very suitable place for political investment it is stable, you can find everything there, from a commercial point of view, in the field of mining, construction and any commercial field that we can think of, the best place

in africa right now is ghana. it is in good condition. what characteristics do you think iranian people or iranian businessmen have that makes you want to do business with them on both sides? they are very serious businessmen, they are very focused on their work and

have an economic mind, so they are people who are smart and we also help them. it turns out that they are economically strong people, and what we should know is that we cannot always think that we can operate in a limited place, for example, we must expand our field of activity and see where we can

be successful, where is the money? and in fact, different fields should be identified , so i encourage iranians, the more iranians, the more we trust you , we like to do business with you , so don't hesitate to come to qena and us . this two-way trust should be like our country our businessmen can have this interaction along with trust with african countries . what is your suggestion or what are your plans in future meetings to familiarize iranian businessmen with the capacities of africa? well, you see, we are one of the most important obstacles. moon and our challenges on the road to development with africa is the same problem of lack of recognition. when we don't have a proper understanding of mutual capacities , then no motivation is created, so

no relationship is formed, no business is formed. one of the main functions of this meeting and now the meetings that will be held in the next three or four days in fact, one of its main functions is to introduce iran's capabilities, capabilities, achievements and technologies to the african parties. and on the other side , let's hear from the african parties the potential, capacities, and facilities that they want to share with iran . well, this is our main goal in this summit , that's why i said, maybe several, maybe more than 6 months, that with the help of the rest of the organization and with the help of our agency, with the help of business centers, we have 10 business centers in africa , we have 3 consultants in africa, we tried to gather the fields joint cooperation and in the form of 12 specialized meetings , in the coming days, we will work on cooperation issues in a very specialized and case-by-case manner, for example, in the field of agriculture, we know that africa is one of

the most virgin lands for agricultural work , there are many fertile lands in some of these countries have an average rainfall of more than 1,200 mm 3 or 4 times a year. well, these are unique opportunities. well, we have a detailed plan and plan for overseas cultivation in africa. for the import of basic institutions for the import of meat, which of course started from two or three african countries and we are expanding to other countries, well, look , there is a plan and a complete package of cooperation in the field of agriculture . we are discussing it these days in the field of mining and mineral industry . well, i said that africa is full of unexploited mines , and mr. bafi said that our african friends are also looking for the development of mines. they are not looking for raw materials , well, we are the owners of the technology, sahib dan. we have been working in the field of mining and geology for years and centuries, so this is an opportunity for us to be able to transfer technology and provide resources from that

continent. we created packages with the help of the rest of the apparatus and private sectors, so during these days, with the help of the face-to-face meetings, we have nearly 150 meetings, and now our friends have registered more than in these few days, we can process them and our important work is just starting now to pursue these agreements and to bring them to a conclusion. very well , mr. michael wafi, in your opinion, the most important obstacles that stand in the way of iranian and african businessmen, and you think that

after the first commercial contact and the first interaction is lost. we came to do business and have a business and i don't think there is any serious obstacle in my opinion, the important thing that iranians should do is to see africa as a friend, and they know it as a good friend, from now on they should see it as a better friend, don't touch the african market. in fact, according to the population that we have in africa.

it shows that africa is a very good market and everyone succeeds in doing business there, so they should put aside fear and replace fear with trust and express their work and consider africa as their best friend because africa is a new market that it can be well-being and bring prosperity to iran

, if iran decides to take africa seriously, africa will help you iran. iran, what can you do as a business? you mentioned everything from that side. what services do you need? what kind of business do you need? it is possible.

it should not be in qena like petrochemical products in fact, the products that can have added value that we can get from iran , iran is very orderly and disciplined from a commercial point of view , and we ask them to help us apply these disciplines in qena as well. we didn't come here to play, we came here to meet , there is the use of clearing, now considering the obstacles that exist in financial exchanges, have you thought about clearing , will

you have a plan on this issue in the meetings of the coming days? yes, look at the successful economies that i mentioned, some of them in working with africa, when we look at their trade balance, we see that they have a balanced trade balance, for example, exporting $100 billion and importing $80 billion, which means that they are continuously exchanging goods , not just importing or just exporting, and again i did it first, because of the current restrictions on financial transfers or anything of this kind, and because of the importance of continuous exchange work , by the way, one of the best ways to work with africa is the frequent or exchange methods, and only it is not necessarily the frequency of goods to goods, we have all kinds of methods we have high frequency or barter, one of which is the frequency of goods to goods, but we can also do this in the field of services, we can give services , we can buy goods in exchange for the services we are doing

now. it will be held for a few more days . yes, tomorrow, well, just like the honorable viewers, tomorrow you have the opening ceremony of the iran expo event. iran is present. they are our guests , they will attend the iran event tomorrow, but for on sunday and monday, all our african guests will participate in the twelve panels that i have presented and in more than 150 face-to-face meetings with many iranian companies. we have planned good industrial visits both inside tehran and in more than 20 different provinces.