mr. bakhorsad, if we start with his highness , firstly, for our dear viewers to get a better understanding of the subject and to be aware of its dimensions, a little about the structure. there is an executive governance of waste management in our country. viewers , please explain, in general , how is this waste management implemented , whether it is in a small or a smaller form. yes, in the name of allah, the most merciful, the most merciful , before i enter into the discussions of hazrat ali , just as you have mentioned, i am a man of the past and

residues have less knowledge than the issue of waste. in our law, it is clear that waste includes all the production tongues by different departments , which we can almost say that in the country, if we say that it is residuum, what we mean is residuum. it is a collection of human products and wastes that humans throw away and humans do not use. this means that now the wastes are in different sectors . we have normal wastes , we have medical wastes, we have chemical wastes , we have special wastes, agricultural wastes. we have all these hazardous wastes how is it managed in our country? according to

the law, it is clear that the executive management of normal waste in the country is with the municipality inside the cities and outside the cities with the dehdar and district administrations. yes, and according to the same waste management law of 2003 , all waste producers are responsible for waste, and first of all, the officials are responsible for they should be responsible for collecting it, and secondly, when the waste is left , they should cover the total cost of waste by themselves. therefore, according to this law , municipalities are only responsible for normal waste, and any device that normalizes waste can be leave the management to the municipality, and the municipality will also pay for the costs. or the district and district administrations

, in return for charging a fee , can waste on the waste management plan and how to separate waste from the source. now see, i will make a general discussion here for your service. it has and so. residues are valuable. why do we say recycling and separation from the source? again , let me separate these two issues. separation from the source. we have more waste and dry waste. segregation segregation now this segregation, why do we say that segregation from the origin should be from homes to production locations so that clean waste is delivered to us and not contaminated, and why do you say that? recycling means that we can

return our waste in the production cycle to the consumption cycle, which means that we can use the waste to the maximum for the benefit of humans. this is the waste law. yes, so how much has it been implemented so far ? 55 thousand tons. so, the production residue is from now on the production residue, at least i can tell you that if we consider at least 10% of it is dry residue both the waste that is food is valuable and this dry waste is very valuable

. how much of the law has been implemented in our country today? for us , it can be said that 70% of the leftovers can be disposed of, 30% comes in the consumption cycle, so you have to, i mean, i have to conclude that management is not necessary, it should be a plan anyway , because the 10-year-old responsibilities are left behind. we now we have a law more than 10 years old, a law more than 10 years old, 20 years old, almost 83 until today, from 83 83 until today, yes, we have a law for 20 years. first of all , there are different producers in the law, whoever produced it, when you write the law, think about these issues , why it has not been implemented, after ten more, you have to ask the relevant agencies why it was implemented . you don't know proper management

, you don't have anything to do with the person. the type of management is the law that you agree with. we have waste management, i'm right, that's what his highness meant, only normal waste in cities and in villages with rural areas, well, after all , the private sector should collect it, or the municipality should manage it with the municipality

, not the operation . you said, anyway, to the private sector or to the city's waste organization. we have another discussion that should be discussed. in addition to the fact that we produce 20 million tons of waste every year. i believe that the private sector should not enter into this work as the only executive agent and collect the waste. my point is this. mr.

baghersad says that the municipality should manage the private sector to collect it. it is another shame to point out that there are all these laws and that there is a legal house. but in practice, municipalities are not successful in this space and do not have enough tools. one of the reasons is that there is a law, but it is not accompanied by the law. you have provided now, in the discussion of tab collection, it can be said that there are many margins. sometimes they use names like mafia in this space. in the discussion of garbage or suppose in the field of dry residues that he mentioned now . but it would have been better to say more completely. at present, 30% of our normal waste is dry, 70% is more than 70% , 60% of it is food waste, in fact

, it is food waste, out of the 600 that fao also mentioned. a few years ago, i remember the debate was that one -third of good food in iran is being thrown away. the same mr. bagharsad was once in charge of the waste organization, now in one or two large ones shahrhar, i think that most of them should explain themselves, so what happened that our waste organization actually comes to collect the garbage just as he mentioned, through an arm called the contractor or contractors, which of course should be discussed . how many are there? in the memory of special people or more, anyway, they were in this space. but i want to say this, this management mechanism and in some way, either not fully complying with the law or escaping from the law, now they have the executive responsibility of this in previous years, and now in some areas, they should explain what happened.

it is not possible to collect our waste completely, it is not possible to organize our waste properly. there is also a law since 2003. i am wrong everywhere. . all the laws and infrastructure are enough. it is not right to assume that the executive branch of our country will come anywhere in the country and say that we are looking for this. let's make a plan, make a law , make an infrastructure. well, that is the law. if the government cooperates with salt or the sector the others don't do anything, so why? not solved until now, we are talking about this now. i say municipalities based on the so-called article 84 of the municipal law in the field of city duties. you have allowed the municipality to do business. article 84 says, "go , do business. go, start an organization. go

, start an institution in this field. come and do a lot of the economic activities of the businessmen yourself , because a municipality is not a government, a municipality is a non-governmental public institution, but the point is why?" after 20 years, we have a law for 20 years. it is because of the lack of integrity of management in this field . let's talk to the people, let's say that so many have gathered, take the people to see that numbers and numbers are a part of people's ambiguous issues. now this is what i am talking about. i say that the management methods in this field should be reformed and improved, that is, our waste is currently all over the country. at the moment, it is becoming a problem before they see waste and expression as a commodity. they keep saying income, income, income. i myself have been active in the field of urban economy for many years. even

though you can't work, if you have income, you have income where does it go? if this income is used , why don't people see the output? if people see it, why are we wasting so much food ? we are talking about this. it is very expensive. two/thirds of our good products are available in the country, which means that if we want to consider it, we will. let's see a third. our good agricultural products are being thrown away. good agriculture is again something between 20 and 30%. this can be said in a way that there are damages and pests in the agricultural sector. it would be good to use this in the recycling process, and the same is the case of the circular economy. take it, which is not done at all seriously and impressively and practically, we see that our waste, which is a national capital, can be turned into national wealth, because i don't want to discuss its environmental and ecological aspects, it's not my field, but if

we want to discuss the method in this program in the economic field and some kind of return on investment. we say that we are rich, we have all these explanations in 1983 , we have a detailed society plan in 1993, and yes, i am presenting the detailed comprehensive plan of our past. it is good, but the implementation of the rules of good managers is not enough you can see the percentage of the number that i presented to you

in this waste, that we have 20 million tons of waste, the total waste of normal waste per year. on this basis, if we

but the progress that comes to the eyes of the people has not been done in this management. where is your people, who in any case had management in this area ? fortunately, what is developing in the 7th plan, they have addressed this point, and it is forming the management of the urban unit. you are the law waste management depends on different departments , executive management with the municipality, but waste. the management of medical facilities with the ministry of health is not the same as our management. well, now i have the same issue. if we were to come to your service , it would be one thing, and the municipalities could follow this issue as the managers of the urban unit, naturally. many problems could have been solved . you think that because the management is not of the same fabric, we

have no progress now, not in that discussion , in our other discussions. jump power. it does not cost to build this. part of the technology is dependent on foreign countries. it should be possible for municipalities to have a financial support and be able to solve this problem. this is an article.

i will tell you the next thing. naturally, we are in the issue of the country's residuals. we don't have a single decision-maker, very well , i hope we can manage together, what will happen? well , they believe that after 20 years of law and 10 years of us , because we don't have uniform management , we don't need equipment, the cost is high, the municipality can't do it, our situation is like this for several reasons. you agree, so they let this kind of garbage accumulate and this environmental incident happens, no, it 's interesting to know. i just heard today that a waste management center like the organization of municipalities has been formed before the plan and program and in some way the description of its duties were felt. in any case, we hope to select a person in charge who can and has sufficient ability, god willing , there is uniformity between the apparatuses, but you can see that this

is not acceptable for the people, and it cannot have an output. i am talking about something else, i am saying. our existing laws could provide good infrastructure anyway for years, mr. baghersad or the likes of this honorable man could have made this space operational in the field of implementation, which he did not see. now, this is the issue of garbage incinerators, this is the issue of activating the economic cycle of dry waste, seriously, this is the issue of struggle. with the zabaneh mafia, if it exists in the residual area of ​​khushak and the like, it has always been a concern for the country , this issue of garbage collectors, which is increasing day by day, or is becoming more and more serious . sufficient legal infrastructure

was foreseen in this law, why did it not happen until now, but now i myself can find a solution in this area. let me tell you, look, i want to say this , we didn't fall into the void period, now it is clear that despite 20 years of existing law and platform, which in your opinion had the ability to be implemented , we did not reach the result . they should be careful so that they can be considered as non-governmental public institutions that belong to the people, that is, the government in the macro sense . follow this work they are either zoning their areas, or they are ranking and organizing the contractors more precisely , or

they are organizing the contractors in a way that the contractor has specialized duties in the area of ​​the waste rather than in some municipalities. just because the company's charter allows the contractor to come and do dozens of jobs in the municipality, and practically, he cannot collect the waste and transfer it to the economic cycle process, and the most important thing is that sometimes it is heard that activities through the national portal of licenses it also comes and takes place in our area. what kind of permission is given to collect one's own waste ? when they sometimes give permission in the field of collecting dry waste, let's say that it is a job, that is , waste that is an environmental issue before it is a product and has a direct relationship with environmental activities. let's make it economic, it's natural

, in fact, they are garbage tanks, which you have to explain . suppose, for example , there are 50,000 to 55,000 shantytowns in the city of tehran , that is, vagrants or itinerants, or sometimes jobs that can actually be considered informal jobs. expression from. from this kind of permission , sometimes they enter the dry waste collection activities and make it more like waste. let's start sorting from the source, let 's start sorting from the level of garbage , let's start sorting from the general garbage collector. well, actually, you see an ugly situation b. in a way, it can be said that it is creating an appearance for the city, and the city is full of gossip, and a whole mafia may

be formed in this area, willingly or unwillingly, and in fact, the municipality is under discussion. if the management of this work is in trouble, then my request is that in this space, the municipalities should clearly define their duties and activities with the government . this law is now approaching the 20-year mark, which, in any case , has loopholes and loopholes that you call management of a cloth, see, now we are discussing the management of a cloth. be careful, in the discussion of the language, now the ministry of health allows you to say that you are talking about life, the method is emphasized you

can do it anywhere, express it exactly from the origin and home , their body knows better. we now collect the waste in the system and deliver it to my city . now we have a very simple example, an epr law. it is good for all of us to take care of it. you see, you are just discussing the matter now , we have various issues, you just came , you are discussing the dry waste , i would like to tell you that it is economic, by the way , create an incentive for the municipality group , the municipalities of the group are self-sufficient and should get their income from the points. different in one of the

the places that can generate income for the municipalities are the wastes . ok, it can be used as a power plant to produce electricity for us, and it can be used in the form of granules, it can be used for your service, but this same turkish waste can be converted to fertilizer. they are not ready to invest fertilizer they should import it, but they don't want to use this fertilizer, which i can tell you is a domestically produced fertilizer . well, here is one thing

that has become clear now. i think mr. bagherzad says that because it is economical and can be used in different places, maybe this is the reason why the presence of the private sector in this area has not been strengthened until now. it is true that it has been strengthened. but i have a question for you. you agree 100 % with the outsourcing of waste management to the private sector. what they see exists now, they are referring to themselves right now, they are taking the waste and recycling it. let's assume that compost will be produced from it . ask the ministry of agriculture right now how much of the compost it buys. if the method of these loved ones was correct, then why

is there a problem in the matter of buying compost? that is, the operational model that works for the private sector.

if the private sector wants to do this, because it is not profitable, my bank will not come seriously, but if the municipality owns shares, some banks may come, the municipalities themselves will come , if they enter this space, the municipality will be allowed to come in article 884. i don't say that he should directly interfere in the production, but this legal article has the authority to do it. it is part of the duty to be able to tell the collective kovar , now titvar, say that the cause is successful. what has been the absence of the presence of the private sector in the country's waste management , tell the headlines, it is precisely because the full price of our waste cycle is not cost-effective for the private sector through logical means, and naturally, the process may have a thousand and one problems and margins for itself, intentionally or unintentionally. therefore, according to the rate set by the municipality, it has nothing to do with the rate of the municipality.

they did not come before looking at this economy with a complete environmental view, evaluate this review and comprehensive view, then do the activity as you think, because

it did not have an environmental view. no, the municipality that collects waste, for example , tehran municipality collects about 6 to 7 thousand tons of waste daily , this whole collection of cleaning the city, green spaces , these are environmental issues, yes, but the point is that the government should help the municipality. because path two. from the beginning , it would be taken from door to door, from school to the door of the workshop , to go into the consumption cycle. putting the economy in the background or the issue. for example

, the wastes of the project, you know that i said that nearly 70% of these require a lot of facilities in order to be able to produce electricity, to be able to be produced cheaply , so the government should come and support this system, and the most important thing is that we some of those who work in the discussion of the structures should be collected. change your body , be a little more agile, plan a little more on this issue and know that we have income, it is true, the municipalities naturally have their income from other places. they pay less attention to this income, so environmental issues will arise when less attention is paid .