the game will be the rule and we will do our best with the tactical discussions we have and the efforts of the issues that our players are doing and have proved that they are worthy so far. and we can get the maximum score, god willing, dawood moradi , radio and television reporting on some short news at the end of the asian cities chess tournament held in khantimansiskiye , the hope team of the people of iran. she won the championship as the runner-up, and the women's team of our country stood in sixth place. in the framework of the 19th week of the premier league the handball team of misr kerman confirmed its championship with a 32-24 victory over tebast coal 3 weeks before the end of the competition. in the continuation of the semi

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dear viewers, thank you very much for your attention and support. have a nice day and goodbye. iranian coach sharaf iran has a telegram with the country is playing, why are you setting prices in this month ? your question is an interesting question. you are a football manager . we do not agree with any kind of treatment . above, above

, in the name of god. greetings, politeness, respect, service to each one of you , dear and respected viewers, above the program with a debate. we are at your service. you know that in the last two or three years in the government, this is one of the many keywords that we have heard. it was that the government intends to increase the number of railways , increase transit, strengthen the cargo and passenger fleet , use the huge rail capacity that we have, but the most important point that is raised here. this is that in order for this increase to take place and for us to make the best use of this capacity , we need locomotives, but whether to provide these locomotives from within or to import them is one of the important issues that has become a point of dispute between experts and various officials. the above

is dedicated to this issue. we want to discuss whether we should import locomotives or not . first of all, let's go and see a report together . we will come back and start the debate. the problem of lack of locomotives manifests itself from time to time in the form of reducing the speed of the freight train and stopping the passenger train due to the failure of the locomotive. semnan kilometer was criticized. we asked the train officials to be responsible, the answer they gave us was that the diesel is ruined, we asked for diesel to come from semnan , after all this time passed, a diesel is coming from semnan. four years ago, the readiness ratio of this fleet was close to 70%, but now.

reached 54%, the ceo of the railway says that out of a thousand freight and passenger locomotives in the country, 200 locomotives are inactive, more than 200 locomotives are foreign class locomotives. practically, it is not even possible to revive it , there are about 150 other locomotives that are stopped. the former minister of roads and urban development believed that these deficiencies should be solved through imports. we cannot wait for 10 to 15 years. in fact , we are looking for foreign companies to bring a number of them with the participation of domestic companies. but domestic producers believe that the country's needs are met through domestic companies. now. it can actually be supplied inside the country. in the last two years, we have added about 50 locomotives to the country's railway fleet. i will continue, until now there are those who are actually

looking for imports and have not been able to import any locomotives . according to the ceo of the railway, 21 locomotives were produced in the country last year, a number that according to the activists of leila saki of radio and television news agency , yes, we saw the report of my colleague. and we heard that here in our studio, mr. eslami, the ceo of bana locomotive , is here as an opponent of the import of locomotives. also, mr. rostami , the head of the transport commission of the iranian chamber of commerce , is here as a supporter of the import of locomotives . greetings and blessings to both guests of the program, i would like to allow mr. i start islam and this question that the reason for your disagreement with ba. in the name of allah, the most merciful , thank you very much for inviting me to this meeting. look, we generally have a shortage of locomotives in the country . there has not been a shortage of locomotives for years

. it has been the same for many years. every once in a while, a production of an import has been carried out and the need has been recorded. in general, we need between 25 and 30 locomotives in the whole country if we want to consider them continuously, provided that we repair the existing locomotives , then it is not that we do not repair the locomotives, this locomotive is beyond this. that we need the production capacity of my country it is enough for this amount, even more than this amount, how much do we need annually? sayed is that we constantly need for cargo , how many passengers and cargo in total? passenger, in my opinion , for now, for the next few years, if the existing locomotives that we bought in the last 10-10 years are less than 15 years old, if all of these are in service

, it will be sufficient for the time being, and if there is a shortage, it will be added from other parts. it was mentioned that we need 900,000 new locomotives to increase our transit. we need that in the next 3 years the government has announced that it is more than the number that you mentioned. it seems that the statistics are very high, unofficially, 900 to 1000, that is, i want to see 900, 900 to 100, 900 to 1,000 locomotives . according to the statistics that the railway itself has, all the locomotives in operation the iron that is working today is for cargo. both the private sector and the public sector have 500 locomotives and 56 locomotives, and this is the total number of locomotives

in the past several years. actually, the ceo of rahnam said that we even set a record with this 56 number of locomotives. we want this for 900 to do it means to double what we have, and leave the locomotives that are lying idle. first of all, this amount of transit is available, secondly, nowhere in the world , they do not order anything. if you say, i want 900 locomotives, we will tell anyone , it is not very interesting for them. orders , almost the orders that we have in this, for example, in the last 15 years, we placed an order for 150 passenger cars that we didn't really have. should we

buy locomotives or 1000 for each locomotive at least 5 locomotives should be taken into account, that is, how many 500 locomotives can we have now, and each one of these should now have any locomotives it wants. for the regulator to sit and move , he should be trained for at least 5 years and pass this course in different levels so that he can come to the locomotive to carry freight. well, mr. rostami, please tell me why you agree that it should be imported , if mr. islami is referring to it. they say need means domestic production as much as domestic need, which they are of course, in the name of god, i say hello to my dear viewers and thank you for your program and before speaking to you, i would like to tell all our colleagues in the big transportation community of my country

that we should not allow any restrictions that have happened so far in the country related to the services to the people, and what will happen after these bans. something happened to our people on the occasion of locomot's import service. this is that we want to provide services to our people, whether it's about rain or about passengers, so we say that we want to provide services to this sector, we say that we have a ban on imports. does this capacity really exist in our country or not? let me give you the most complete data. we have 11 locomotives in the country , out of which 800 are 800 dnd and four of them belong to the government. 197 of the units belong to the private sector and

it is interesting that 524 locomotives are operating out of these 11 units. and practically, we see that 50% of the number of locomotives in the country and the capacity of our country are out of service. well, now with regard to production. in their own country, the producers announced that if they reach the capacity of producing 25 locomotives per year, we will see that it will take 20 years. it hurts that we want to replace the 500 that are grounded now. in the next 20 years, these 500 that are in traffic will definitely be grounded, so we need to have domestic capacity and support from our producers. give the same opportunity and permission to the private sector to import and import locomotives because

they provide better services to our people. our people have the right to be able to get more convenient services. to travel by bus , to travel by train, or to move goods in fact, a locomotive can carry 60 freight wagons, 60, which is approximately 3,600 tons , that is, the capacity of more than one ship that comes to the port of our northern ports. there is a lot of talk about protecting the environment, supporting road safety , reducing accidents, we have a shortage of locomotives in the country, friends should accept this, now if we

allow this competition, let it come from the manufacturing companies of other countries. let our investments, our private sector, come and import them there will be competition. it is lying and stuck on the ground

. it can be started with a very small cost. it is not like you think that it is all gone. see, the cost of a new locomotive that we actually buy is the same as the cost of three that we can repair, that is, if the money in fact, we want to buy a locomotive, let's let every part of it go to the repairs of this locomotive , because it can't be done, when should it be done , the government, well, the government, whoever has a locomotive, whoever has a locomotive, the private sector that has a locomotive, this is the locomotive first. even the private sector that now they have brought locomotives and used 35-year-old and 30-year-old locomotives, that is, no private company has gone to bring new locomotives. let us take a 30-year-old locomotive that has worked in other foreign countries

and bring it here for our personal benefit to repair it and start it up , just to say the least. it has much more and right now you look at the statistics, the most locomotives in terms of let's calculate a percentage . it is the same chinese locomotive that arrived and it is not possible to supply parts right now. for example, one company has brought four units , one of them is working , another company has brought two, but it is not working at all, and another company has brought one. it doesn't work at all

that the locomotives of other companies are also brought second-hand by force of some people. you have produced in the past few years. why is it that every year you produce the same capacity of 20 as you say, 30 as you say, i say it is not true, 15, why is the number of our fleet in discussion our locomotives are not increasing. this is the reason . the reason is that you agree with me . the number of production that can be done with the number of locomotives that are grounded, well, i am grounded

because the government has come. in fact, the discussion of the enterprise, which was supposed to be handed over to the private sector since 2008, and the most important things that were actually sweet and bitter, came to the fore. talchava handed over the issue of wagons to the private sector , and the sweet part related to handing over the stations. he should have left it to the private sector, he didn't leave it because he deserved it for his own statistics you know, the government has also given mortgages, in the first 6 months of 1402, our mortgages have lost 100 billion tomans . they announced themselves . look, the private sector, which actually has a locomotive, could not manage

it, why couldn't it manage you , because the income it earns from the neighborhood is very low, and the government, which is actually in charge of all these rates. he will not let this fare until you see the reason for this you can't see that we are going to import. i say 500 locomotives are lying now at a very low cost. if the private sector wants to start them, the government should bring them and give them to the private sector. the private sector should start them at a low cost. now the government has no money. the private sector, the private sector will do this work, mr. eslami, that's what we are talking about. look , we are saying that the part that was a headache and the government came and left the sweet part to us , i am not out of the discussion. companies are not going to buy wagons, look at last year

if you look at the purchase of more than 10000 wagons by a private company last year, 1000 units are good , the production capacity of our producers is not the amount that our railway society needs today. so, does the government create the conditions for the private sector for me to come

and repair these locomotives that are stuck on the ground? it is also worth going to buy it now half of it is asleep now half of it, now half of it, half of it is asleep. why is he sleeping because he couldn't earn money and spend money? now you assume that they take a new locomotive and bring a new locomotive, but they can't bring a new locomotive at the same prices that it is in reality. they don't want to see until the basic issue is fixed, the price, in fact, the price of the locomotive, is not corrected. first, no one is interested in investing. second, it is safe. ok, our domestic prices are actually lower because the locomotive is lower and its maintenance cost is lower it is more economical for the private sector if

it wants to buy. the foreign discussion that we are doing is at all something that the companies don't want to buy, or of course the companies themselves don't want to go. there are a number of brokers who are actually looking for imports. government companies who know that it is up to them, they buy domestically from domestically, just as they are buying a part of it now. look now , some parts of the companies are actually buying, and now we are in the last two years, i can tell you, despite i don't know that the government is saying that we want to import, but this word has not been able to import even a single one we have produced about 70 units , see how many years, ten years, see how many years, we have produced based on the order that we received, see the request came, when there is no request, no one produces the locomotive, which is not like a car, we can produce thousands to thousands. so we have to let the customer come with a special locomotive

. it is possible, but about a thousand or more locomotives did not enter the country. that 500 of them are working. you say that we need another thousand, while we have no room for repairs, and we have no space. today, the same private companies that buy locomotives do not have a shed so that they can take their locomotives there to carry out repairs. in fact, he doesn't give shelter to these people, he actually helps them to do the repairs, we are in the desert , they are doing their supplies , they don't have a new locomotive

, bring it here and make an exhibition, the private sector will come, measure the investment they want to make , check and do it. gives you if you are worried you are an investment in the private sector, please don't worry about the private sector. our private sector is ready to import locomotives , either from china or from europe, so that it can be in the same situation, but you say that the government the managers themselves should refer the issue of entrepreneurship to the private sector. azam dari said, "sir, let's use the people , use the private sector , use the capacity of the private sector, these are the expressions of rate setting , just as hazrat ali said

, they want to interfere in the setting of rates, they want to lower the prices of the private sector. i don't want the locomotive to be grounded day after day after this swelling, and the government has no reason to bear all these losses, he says, "i don't have any reason to spend money on repairs for the locomotive, and i don't have any income." we are also causing a series of side issues . if the government trusts the private sector and leaves it to the private sector, it will

leave the issue of employment to another and not to the work of sardar shirinishim, that is , all the things that were approved in 2004 were approved by the government and approved by the parliament. leave the religious part to do it. this is just the bitter and troublesome part when it was a matter of wagons and passenger cargo, leaving the issue of stations and you know that rahan has many economic spaces can take time. let's go and see a report together , mr. eslami mentioned that if it is imported, you will leave or the private sector will import locomotives that are either second-hand or have very old technology . we can do this. now our companies are ready to go with chinese companies that have travel locomotives. problem

no, but this ban should be removed, and now when you say that you should go, just for example , if there is this brand and this manufacturer in the country, take it from you , this will automatically create a ban for any sector , whether it is transportation, rail, or anything else. they should create a ban, in short , we don't have compliments, rent will be created, corruption will be created. thank you. khalil vatand dost , ceo of the locomotive manufacturing company, with one million 500 thousand euros , we are able to completely rebuild the locomotive, while for the purchase of each new locomotive two and a half million euros should be spent. currently , our wagons are exported to europe, and if we receive support, we will be self-sufficient in the production of locomotives. hosseini menesh, president

of tank wagon owners association, the achilles heel of the railway industry is the shortage of locomotives, the domestic production capacity of locomotives is limited in the short term, and we have to buy from abroad to implement the development plans of this industry, but this does not mean that domestic production do not support mohammad mehdi eslami, the ceo of bana locomotive, our country does not need to import locomotives, and the locomotive production capacity is domestic. it fully meets the needs of the railway industry. policies should be made in such a way as to support domestic production and, of course, importing second-hand locomotives is not economical. shahriar efendizadeh, the former deputy of transportation of the ministry of roads and urban development, to develop railway crossings and turn iran into a transit hub, which is one of the government's priorities , we need 900 new locomotives, while the actual

base capacity is 20 and the government's capacity for locomotive entry permits issued the second. this decision to close the locomotive production line resulted in the unemployment of some of our company's workers. the entry permit was issued and after that the companies that they had the possibility of importing second-hand locomotives and canceled their contracts with pars wagon. mead salehi, managing director of the islamic republic of iran railway company. the age of the passenger locomotive is 10 years and the age of the freight locomotive is 30 years, so we need to renew the locomotive of this section. the 6th plan assigned to transport 30% of cargo and 20% of passengers by rail. however , due to the lack of fleet and especially locomotives , this law could not be fulfilled. yes

, we saw and heard my colleague's report together. i would like to ask a question from mr. kotas and mr. rostami. do you have 300 units for three years this year, the same thing that mr. deputy minister said, 900 units if yes, mr. effendizadeh said, 900 units if we accept, considering the production of 30 units, no, this number is correct in your opinion . i may have said too much, but we should consider at least 500. our urgent need is now. we want 500. yes , are you saying for the next two or three years or are you saying no? what is our rail transfer? whether the passenger issue should be updated in the rail issue, we say that we should have at least 150 passengers per year to be able to complete this cycle. let's update it

because when a number of mr.