should be appointed and every 10 years a maximum of 20 people will be added to the number of representatives, but in any case , this issue has supporters and opponents, and according to the procedure of the higher programs, today we will sit in the debate with the presence of two members of the parliament as supporters and opponents of this issue. please accompany us, but our time is coming to an end on the one cima channel. here i say goodbye to the audience of this channel, and if you are interested , please follow us on the channel. why do you have a question about pricing in this month? it's interesting that you are a football manager, we don't want any kind of medical treatment .

the constitution of the islamic republic of iran sets the number of representatives of the islamic council at 64 and 270, which must be changed every 10 years. based on the requirements of the time, such as the increase in the population of the country's divisions or other factors, this number should be revised and 20 people should be added to the number of parliamentarians at most once every 10 years, and as you know , the number of representatives has not changed for about 20 years. there are still 290 members of the islamic council in september last year, they put a plan on the agenda to increase the number of representatives. add 40 people and

bring it to 330 people, but this plan remained silent for 6 months with the vote of the representatives, until the 9th of may this year , this plan was put on the agenda again, and with the vote of the representatives, this plan was not voted on, and it was opposed. we are dear representatives mr. seyyed alborz hosseini, a member of the parliament, as opposed to this plan, and mr. mohammad reza sabagian. as a supporter , we are at their service to ask and inquire about the opinions of both sides regarding this issue and finally according to the procedure. in fact , it will always be up to you to judge and decide. well, if you allow us to start with mr. sabakian, mr. hosseini, please also explain why this plan was not voted in the islamic council and the reasons for those in favor and what are the critics of this plan. well, in the name of allah, the most merciful, the most merciful and

the most merciful, i offer my greetings and courtesy to your excellency , your colleagues and the noble people of islamic iran . i would like to thank you for holding this program with the same theme there is an increase in parliamentarians, but i wish this meeting had been held earlier, it almost became a panacea after sohrab's death, for us, i wish it had been held earlier and it could have been very effective in terms of information and the atmosphere it created, but anyway now, i think this is very useful even now, and

god willing, it will continue so that we can focus on good goals, just like you said , once every 10 years, according to article 64 of the constitution, 20 people should be added to the representatives, and according to this, now almost the 25th there is a year after from the last increase we have seen that despite the fact that every period this came to the parliament, but unfortunately it did not get a vote in the parliament. now the government has opposed it and the parliament has also opposed it. in general, if i want to say, the view of the parliament , unfortunately, has gradually moved towards the local and regional. instead of saying, let's see where

in the country, which region, which city needs these 40 people, which we can increase now. it feels that everyone is trying to get an additional representative , and naturally, since there are no more than 40 people and there are 290 representatives , the number of those who have a representative added to their constituencies is less, and naturally, we faced less positive votes, so did the government. all this time, allah sagiri has been opposing that whenever he wants a vote in the parliament, he says we will pass a bill. let us pass a bill. in the past few terms, only one day will come and he will say that we are a bill. in fact, he should have passed a bill during these 20 years, but he did not, and the implication is that i feel that many governments do not agree that a

strong parliament is a strong parliament with an increase in representatives. if you look at the representatives of parliaments of other countries today. for example, england has 65 million people with 659 representatives, or france has 64 577 million representatives or south korea 51 million , usually you are gathered up to the parliament or at all our neighbor turkey 77 million 550 representatives or egypt 87 million. 567 representatives, so it feels that we are lagging behind in terms of the global soft world. mr. language, what is the global standard, that is , every thousand people per capita must have one representative in the parliament. see, there is no special standard for all countries. in our law, it is

the previous law. i think there were 120,150,000 people in the beginning, yes, but naturally , later with the increase in the population, which is about 20,000 people. we had you when we had the last increase in 1978. well, our population was not more than 56 million. today, we have a population of about 86-87 million. this plan and this necessity should have really been done today, but unfortunately, you are alive with the opposition of doing it , dear mr. hosseini, mr. sabakian says that because in fact, the number of representatives that are added will be allocated to limited constituencies and this view

is actually all of them. they expect that the constituency to increase their visible numbers, that 's why usually those people who don't have a lot of stake vote against this story in the parliament and this vote is a vote to this day. i offer my greetings, courtesy and respect to your honorable colleagues, the noble people of islamic iran. it is a very good occasion . i congratulate the cultured community of the country, who are the creators of knowledge in the country and the knowledge, and congratulate the working community of the country who are born in the field. production, work, and effort, by the way, our discussion goes back to these two areas, the meaning is that, in any case, wherever the numbers

of the statistics are explained correctly, the conclusion should be drawn. it will be true, therefore, if there is more awareness and knowledge in the society , the legal rule that you explained can help us. anyway, in 1958, when the constitution was drafted and became enforceable, based on the 64th principle , it was based on 150 thousand people. and in general,

the basis for increasing the representatives was based on this , according to the capacity. the population at that time in 1968 became a theory, based on the ignorance of the population, because we have to discuss these things technically. let's do it, while the considerations of both population and geographical , human and political factors, each of these have a definition in this rule about the subject and mr. dr. sabakians know that the various parliaments have a sensitivity towards this issue, and if you talk to each of my colleagues in the parliament , i don't think anyone is against this plan. okay, in terms of the fact that the number of representatives

is against the increase and allow this rule of mr. doctor's speech , i will not accept it because the number is small because of this vote , because we need to see where there are deficiencies in the country's executive structure before entering into the discussion of the number of representatives. what do we have and what should we do before that? it would come and be completed that here is the effect of its status and the number of representatives, while i am on the side thirdly, i would like to add to this topic , please, mr. doctor, give us their opinion anyway. anyway, all these things are for us to create better services for the people, that is, for people to have better access to a pillar in the structure of the legislative system. there is a discussion in the field of implementation. i have another way to look at the issue in my mind, that is, our society should be convinced

, especially the society, in any case, the majority of the representatives who are in the parliament who are not convinced. the environment should be a model that the representatives are not now that their number should not be large, but the environment of the parliament with these conditions. in any case, it helps to increase their level of awareness, which means we have to take a look at the quality of my topic in addition to this, that is, simply , sir, because i don't sweat enough, this won't happen. there is some room for discussion about the reality of my topic , this is my topic before entering. let's find out that our country's division law is very old, that is, exactly close to maybe 35 years old

. in general, the behavior of the local people and their needs are very different, which means that before we get into this issue, we should go and check the root cause , sir, and see why this is not happening, and the same previous law will determine the events that will change the nature of the needs. it will go in another direction, then mr. doctor said that a powerful parliament does not want to happen, by the way, a powerful parliament happens when we reach a group in terms of university level within the system, which, in any case, have a connection with the body of the society, a leisure bali should be created for them in terms of focusing on creating the right laws. that that strong law in the context of the society will make the law of railroading be correct and the work of the people will be right

. a person who can be available and people can reach him is a representative, that's why he is there. i request that the four angles be together so that the representatives have more freedom. well, if there are more representatives, this will not happen . you can see that i will ask another question in 1968, we added 10 people to inver , we added 20 people. do we have a study now that adding those 20 people in a period of time, for example, 10 years, approach anyway,

why do our local representatives think this is a topic of our discussion. the topics are also involved in this topic, which means that the facts are relevant. part of the issue is the increase in the number of representatives, but we have to pay attention to the quality of our legislation , we write laws, it goes with a thousand and one traps , it gets people in trouble, it shows that we are one here, if the number of representatives remains the same or does not increase, these flaws that now mr hosseini, they are really introducing some laws

, do you think it will be solved, that is, the qualitative solution of the laws is the number. mr. hosseini is one of the honorable members of the parliament. you see, our topic is the increase of representatives. if we want to name the root causes of the weakness of the parliament or discuss methods , we should have other meetings .

205,000 people , we have 3 representatives in one constituency and one city , we have 45,000 representatives in one constituency in one city with one city in one province with one city in the same one representative in in the same province, we have 6 cities with several times the population of one representative . i had the same pain when i went to the internal affairs commission. really , no one can touch the situation that governs the deprived areas and large areas. now, mr. doctor, fortunately , it is the city of god and a city, naturally, they have the right to me when you have a city with 6

the situation is different up to the city. we are having a moment today , i am asking the noble people of islamic iran, his excellency and mr. hosseini , to give us a special favor, a constituency with 6 cities. with a population of 605,000, one representative with a scattered population, now you see the deprivations, people were coming to us for the establishment of the road, coming to us for the establishment of investment, employment in the pyramid, now a representative with 6 cities, with a population of 65,000, with a scattered distribution, and he must be accountable. the city has 45,000 people, and he is also a representative. now, it is interesting that a sum of money or the parliament, for example, last year

, came to the account of billions and said that according to the opinion of the representatives , it should be spent on projects. sabakyan, if you have 6 counties , we have 25. that representative also has one county and that is 25. that means giving the budget to the number of representatives. you are the basis of many injustices, this unfair injustice , the number of representatives, when today, if we accept this objection of mr. hosseini

, i will take a constituency that has a scene of a terrible accident for a health center that has been destroyed for 15 years. these four or five people are working in each room, well, one of them is trying to bring a certain welfare complex into his domain, and the other is trying to make his governorship special , so this is unfair, mr. hosseini. it is really sovereign, that is, whatever we want to say, sir, there is a problem in the science of country divisions, we will accept it if you do please, today the parliament is in the framework. we accept his own path, but the reality that was put in front of you and me today is this, even mr. governor, who is in charge of the administration, people ask us for help

, they turn to us, they turn to you, no one tells us because you have three cities. i call you less often, the representative goes into this mud by himself and every day his problems increase, that is, if at least you are the same. mr. hosseini, i defined three indicators . i was the secretary of his specialized group for 3 years. we held dozens of meetings, hundreds of hours of time were spent from research centers, other scientific centers were invited, and we defined three indicators: a 50% score for the population , considering that the constitution says that the population of malacca is 25 points for deprivation and political considerations, 25 points for size. well, these points have been collected

and explained with these indicators. i have every representative who protested. you saw my protest on the stage of the parliament. there was a strong protest. anyway, this is the issue . my constituency says why you couldn't get a representative. unfortunately, sometimes. this is what we are facing. he said, sir, these are 40 of us we can't make 41. please explain these 40 with these indicators. we will accept them. well, the same city and the same district that has three representatives come to me and say, "if one representative gives us , we will vote. we will not vote. we will not vote. we will say, sir." please explain 40 taras for those indicators, we do n't have any method. yes, some structures and some laws should be revised and amended, but the current reality is that both the law has allowed us

and today we are compared to the world and other countries. we are behind and we need it. i told my friends that those 6 cities that have one representative have a population of 65 thousand and cannot provide drinking water for their region. one day you all will. because the basic fact is the basis of many injustices in education, construction , health development, all this returns . now, mr. hasden, who is not a representative, his duty is to follow up on the way . anyway, legislation is his main duty, and now affairs. elections are not part of his main duties, maybe now mr. hosseini is overseeing this in fact, they say that the number of representatives should be a little bit more qualitative, so that it increases a little bit

. mr. doctor, the topics are almost overlapping , that is, it is not like we have a difference of opinion regarding the development of areas, shortages, deprivations, we have no difference of opinion at all. we don't have a problem, this is what i'm talking about . i'm saying that this plan is so important. now, mr. doctor, let them say it themselves. from now on, my opinion is a bit different from the opinion of dr. sabakian , that a plan this important will diminish when you don't lay the foundation right. that the colleague of the representative is accused or the parliament is accused of that sir, because i don't get a share from this, i won't vote , right?

60 days, about 20,000 people, the population at the beginning and end of the district is about 20 and 20 kilometers, 20 kilometers, the format means that the population composition is 70% rural, 30% urban, with its own conditions , that is, with its own problems, in a climate, mr. doctor's area with 6 a city with different requirements in a different climate, why does this law remain on the table? look, in paragraph one of the general policies announced by the supreme leader, he said

, sir: consider these as the population factor , but there is one thing in terms of a problem there is also an inevitability, take that into account , of course, mr. saba, saying to give another number means giving 50% credit, for example, 25% of the population , political considerations, no, i want to say that this is based on a pattern that they themselves made in the report of the loved ones, even the research center easily says 3 sir, this solution is not a solution to the problem, it can solve the problem for a short time, but the main point is, you see, i have a city with this situation, another one has a city with a different situation, with limited facilities. i can't deal with this volume of work density and these restrictions also

exist in some places in tehran province, for example, you are in a district of my city, which is not comparable to the district of mr. doctor's city. its area is 5151 square kilometers . there is a city in tehran that does not have a population density of 500 square kilometers and 400 square kilometers. at some point, it is too much, well, it is natural for the presence of the representative if we consider the population, yes , there are 2 million people, one million people, the representative is not enough, but if it is convenient in terms of size, he can defy his entire constituency within a day or two, after a on the other hand, is this what we are saying here a discussion? the population level of the administrative system of these and the administrative level of my city, dr.'s cities, are the same . the executive technical ability of the forces that are there is the same as the technical ability of the forces that are in the center

. part of the basis of this plan is my talent. my question is this. the constitution says that the constitution for our country is a matter of necessity. we should stick to it. in this plan , many places have a large number of people to study. why don't we reduce them? we can reduce them. we can't reduce them. because we are on the side of the people, it is a fact we are not saying to reduce them, if we are going to increase these requirements, then let's go for it. we , who are 20 years old, 18 years old, and 40 people, did not add to the foundation, so really, let's take 6 months, 7 months, one year, two years to solve the root problem, instead of doing this now, and with this, one of the biggest problems was that at the end we wanted this to happen in this parliament. well, it would have been better if this happened with a year left to the end of this parliament. maybe there are other requirements. it happened a year ago now, and september is coming. well, i am finally

getting it, and i will say it again. you see, the supreme leader said the requirements of his own work , he says that the parliament must move towards a central bill, we see that four to five plans with the same name have come up, mr. dr. barde, in the commission system, four or five plans that have 90% of the structure in the same direction overlap. bringing it together under one title with the title of adding 40 people, sir, when you say, sir, the constitution said this, my part is that every 10 years for the past 20 years, i have to add 40 people. i say, well, let's revise the constitution with the current requirements. let's discuss the country, maybe he will tell us, sir, let's make it 500 people, or 40 people there is a problem, but with the style and style that exists now

, how many people can you add to my opinion, with the opportunities that exist, nothing special will happen , the government does not follow their work , and they must answer. anyway, they know their requirements and they don't want to create a situation where they have more people watching from the point of view of the parliament anyway. it is completely clear, but this side of the matter , well, the parliament from a monitoring, well, during the years that are now 11 terms, insisted that these requirements happened every 10 years, i believe in this. if we want to do a bachelor's degree, if we want to work , let the restrictions that the doctor says happen, by the way, what the doctor said about the discussion is the king.