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his intention and peace will flow in the village with the works he establishes, life will prosper , happiness will be created. well, if the farmer is well , my agriculture will be fine, no matter how much we pay attention to it in the field, but we do not revive the rural residence , the village has a reason to stay in it. it is not a village because transportation makes this work easy. he comes to the city and returns to the farm in the morning, but for a thousand and one reasons , it is necessary for a villager to live in the village and for the village to stand. we don't just do infrastructure work , we do physical work. we also do serious basic works. can you name them? yes, we are for 40 thousand we have prepared a tarhadi village for more than 20 households . we have 45 years of serious experience in the village, saying that things cannot be done with the participation of the people. we delivered them with the participation of the people themselves. with the cooperation of the registry office
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, preparations have been made for 40,000 days with the participation of the people themselves. how much did the people contribute ? for example, if we want to say a number, see one , i will say a supply. they will definitely say 100, definitely 100, mr. barmziari , because when you want to study the village. you must be present in the village , talk to the people, we talk to the people's elected representatives, who are the councils , we talk to the villager, who is the manager of the village's affairs, according to mr. nooralli , their problems will be summed up, the devices must be coordinated , this is the legal clarity of this clause. the seven laws of mazkeneh foundation's constitution approved by the parliament in 1966, we do this in the implementation of the law , it is not a letter, it is not a decree, it is not the product of a one person's thought or a research center, this is the implementation of the law. let them guarantee the implementation of
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the rural roads that have been added, these are the country. in terms of rural development, iran is one of the drivers of development that exists in the world, and i think that mr. barmziari's own studies also confirm this, and i have a specific question for mr. barmziari, because i want to know his words regarding these issues. the purpose of creating a body in charge of development in terms of aspects. to be general, as
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i told you, the vice president for rural development and underprivileged regions is at your service, as well as the interior ministry with the structure that actually moves up from the rural districts. i said that they are not experts anymore. the trustee of rural development is his specialized aspect, which causes the specialized devices that are working now to lose their jobs. you see , since we taught the lesson of heavenly gifts in schools , and since the revolution, it was religious education . after that, we entrusted the responsibility of god knowledge for our children to this unit of teaching, the physics teacher, the math teacher, was exempted from that theology in the lesson. if he teaches himself
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, it means that we have actually created a secularism. by creating a specialized organization in this field, we will cause secularism in our rural development. i wanted to know the answer from his highness, and i want to know what the enemy's plans are for this secularization of our development in the country. tell them that they finally agree that the absence of a trustee is the main problem now. well , you suggested that in order to empower the villages , there should be an organization that empowers them. sazi, if they do the same , tell the ministry of interior to announce this and implement it. this is the ministry of interior it does the job, no
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, what is your proposal for the governance of rural development in your country? look at the administrations, we have 62 organizations involved in the villages. well, these 62 organizations are involved . everyone is doing their own specialized work. it is hard to say that, for example, the water organization has not done its work in the village. the organization, for example, the road and urban development ministry has not done its work. the real estate has not done its job, all this is true, there are some shortcomings, but they have to do their job and advance the development well, we are looking for one. the title of the special headquarters for the follow-up of rural affairs under the supervision of the president is my proposal . you also
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have the same objectivity. please make your suggestions. i would like to ask you to see what we do not propose. we have a structure , we have a function, right? there are two types of hypothesis on the structure . they say to fix the structure and the performance should be fixed . there are a number of scientists who say that the function should be fixed and the structure will be fixed by itself. now the new theory talks about institutionalism. the structure and function should be corrected together. in fact, the order i mentioned has a chronological order, that is, an example. now, if we want to look at the same situation and our existing organizations , what can you suggest, what is our new institutionalism, we don't need to create a new structure, what should we do , we need to correct the performance and structures that are defective, well, this is our discussion, this is my question, this is my
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example, mr. doctor. i have a very clear example of a clear flaw. i would like to say that our rural development budget is no longer balanced. what is your suggestion for executive bodies? we fit the nature of the villages sometimes i won't say now, many times, sometimes it is not suitable . well, this should be done somewhere, it should have that village look , it should fit these projects with the eyes of the villages, and with whom should this be done? look , now in the government of ayatollah raeesi, he is wearing these glasses in two places. he is focusing on the development of the village , a presidential development vice-president, where mr. madani is present, in the jihadi headquarters and the ministry of interior for hossein, a village where sardar bekai is in charge. these two people are responsible for carrying out the task you mentioned. now, what is the division of labor between the jihadi headquarters of the ministry of interior and the deputy of rural development exists. see our housing foundation,
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dinner organization. headquarters of the ministry of interior and development of rural areas and underprivileged areas of the presidency. we have joint meetings every month. these joint meetings are the result of a series of sub-groups, and those sub-groups raise exactly the problems that you mention, the deficiencies that exist , they come to a plan, and we have a plan for development in the country. we are implementing the housing foundation system plan, so see what i am saying now, it is a parallel work to the same thing. also , see that the honorable ministry of the interior is careful in the field of villages is very good . it is very happy. the approach of the new government in this regard is really good. it is praise and admiration, but this is a parallel work. look, now the ministry of agricultural jihad has a series of programs for itself for employment. they
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have a program for the rural development deputy, now there is an order and work that we need to do for employment now, for example, we are rural employment , which the sustainable rural employment law was also in the previous government. in the previous parliament. it arrived and was implemented, and it had a lot of challenges . we don't really have a version of the amendment for this yet. we ourselves presented a version in the expert report that we gave, a version that can promote knowledge-based employment, knowledge-based, people-based, and participation-oriented entrepreneurship in villages and areas of esha'i. but this has not yet reached the point of emergence by the executive body. i want to say that despite the formation of the council, first of all, the supreme and nomadic council, which belonged to the supreme administrative council in 1998, the interview of the supreme administrative council in 1998, when the established government came, it changed its title and added jihad sazandagi to it. and the composition is a bit it has changed and its structure has changed a bit. the main issue of the supreme council, which we believe
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, does not work for coordination. the supreme council has not been convened once a year, sometimes in 4 years. formed, it really doesn't answer, then there is a forum for the executive body to defend their own performance, not to be connected to the realities of the field, now i don't want to enter. this is what we are saying that, definitely, since the revolution until now, there have been many services, a significant part of which is due to the efforts of the islamic jihad foundation. and the ministry of jihad has been constructive, it has really happened , a miracle has happened at the level of our villages , especially in the field of service delivery, but the issue of employment, the discussion of the economy of the chiefs has not progressed there, and
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you can see the breakdown of the performance of the executive bodies. let's look at it in a relative way, a lot of mistakes have been made, even though the villages are the second priority for them, many of the executive and rural bodies are second-class citizens, but the combination of these is not the right combination, that is, you should sit with the ministry of roads now , it says that i have built so many roads with housing foundations beshini says, i have prepared so many designs. i performed it, sit with jihad, he says i did this , but the combination of these things that you put together , what should have happened, because we went to the normal plan , we did not consider the production. it is broken, or for example , we developed the housing in a way. now, in the seventh plan, we also followed up, my friends, a change was made, we built the housing in such a way that we did not see the issue of domestic livelihood in it. well, this is the same analysis and composition, relatively good analysis, but composition nothing is coming. we should not brag now
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that according to the estimates made by the united nations and by the 205 horizon, our rural population rate will actually reach 16%, and even now , during the last 40 years, we have seen the rate of reduction of the rural population. we were the 10th country in the world. well , we have to see this. yes, along with all the services that have been provided, this is the last thing. of course, the explanation of time is not fair. it means two people on one side, one person on one side. you should give us more time . i want you to see that they say that the agricultural jihad of the unions has been there and i don't know he had the financial resources of the bank, why didn't he act ? look, we shouldn't watch the game from the second half , we have to watch it from the beginning. you came after the merger of the two home ministries in 1979. the kurdish republic is the center
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of underprivileged areas and rural development, then you did this , the deputy of rural development of underprivileged areas did parallel work, then you made those laws irrelevant . discussions a coordinated production should be designed and saying that we will strengthen the existing structures means that we should create a new organization and establish a new organization according to your order, and we should not do this . it is like a rural cooperative organization. like the center, in fact , there are several other places that
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are related to the ministry of rural development, so creating a new structure is not the end of structures. yes, then to strengthen the structures, a rural development thinker is needed , which means that he should also empower the ministry of interior. for example, to empower the ministry of health , to have a place to cook, to study, to be in the field, to strengthen organizations , we cannot exist without any structure , for example, now we have the supreme council of urban planning and architecture , and a ministry of urban development cannot implement its approvals. let's say that the ministry of roads and urban development does not exist , the supreme council of urban development can coordinate all the devices on its own, so if you agree, let's go and see a report together . the issue we are holding a debate about , we will see it together, we will come back and continue the debate, dr. peyman rostamian, member of the academic faculty of kermanshah azad university, rural areas of iran
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, very high capacities in various fields of agriculture, including horticulture, animal husbandry, aquaculture, and other productions agriculture has that the ministry of jihad agriculture can create a big change in this field in the villages by identifying and planning. dr. sajid nemati, economic researcher in charge of village development. it cannot necessarily be a single organization and that is the ministry of agricultural jihad, because the village aspects it has different aspects and is not limited to the production sector, so the village trustee should be a multi-sectoral institution that can manage various sectors such as the economy, construction and culture of the village. dr. mohammad shakti amghani, a member of the academic faculty of tarbiat modares university, according to the explicit text of the 7th plan, regarding the establishment of a suitable executive body from the
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available facilities, resources and human resources, and also according to the capacity and capabilities of various organizations, in relation to with rural development in the country, the only organization that has the appropriate scope from the national level to the village is the ministry of jihad agriculture. dr. vahid saadat, the vice president for investment of the presidential rural development deputy , put a resolution in the law of the fourth program that the policy making, planning and management of rural development affairs are under the supervision of the president. if its regulatory parts were also completed, the position. the executive body that oversees the village issue was formed in the presidency , and we saw its results today. successful activities were experienced and
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at the same time, it had fueled the basis of progress, and even today, this successful experience of agricultural jihad can be used for the progress of the village. dr. mohammad hossein rahmani khalili, vice president of islamic revolution housing foundation planning. the housing foundation is a revolutionary institution that has the mission of development and elimination of deprivation in all rural areas, and due to the scientific and practical experience it has had in the villages for many years , it can become the symbol of the guardian of rural construction with iranian islamic identity, and the civil and abadani should manage the village. alireza shakti, radio and television news agency please let me protest this explanation. first of all , we heard mr. vermziari's entire program and then they are waiting two by one
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. jihad has done its job, and i say again , we do not deny the activities of agricultural jihad . our emphasis is that jihad should continue its activities in the field of production competently and with all the seriousness that you have just reported. well, i want to say that i am a trustee in the village in the field of jihad production in the field of urban development imrani of maskan foundation based on the work he has done and the experience he has in the field of governance, policy making and the politics of political and social affairs of the ministry of interior
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. they say that, sir , there is one cloth in the east, i want to ask this question to my friends, or let the viewers judge for themselves, isn't there an abfaz water company in the city, and the electricity department is not active? the village expects an agricultural jihad that is a construction jihad there has been no experience of agricultural jihad, which should now be in the field of production in the field, the majority of this production takes place in agriculture and industries , it is within the confines of the cities, so you say that the agricultural jihad should be in the countryside, who will manage them if this was supposed to happen? should be properly managed and respond better, jihad now has a lot of work to do, in addition, let's refer to the principle of the three basic laws that prohibit the creation of parallel institutions, the government is always recommended to downsize in upstream policies, and
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my law says that we will come. let's create another fat organization, but it will be in the alleys the villages, supervision by the supervisors of the technical system , there was also a criticism of the foundation itself, now, for example , about the paving, i don't know, about the construction of the maskar and these things were discussed. we must finally provide him with health, peace, and comfort so that we can continue that ranching there, and build a path for us as well , but don't consider that path all at the same time, whether it's the northern path, you
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use it somewhere else or use it there. . now our design recommendation is this and our policy is based on this, the implementation in the village should be homogeneous with the environment ok, and avoid more planning, how come we don't interfere in the farm? i don't know why the agricultural supervisor should come. what kind of agricultural supervisor does an agricultural expert in the development of the village think? this is the point of discussion . god, things are going much better, thank you very much mr. k , who was with us, the general manager of the office of supervision and preparation of rural plans of the islamic revolution housing foundation
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. thank you, mr. nooralli jambandi. you said you should have one there should be an expert trustee for rural development. well, with this argument , we can say with this argument that we should create an urban development organization. this is one point. please take a look and see how successful this has been in the development of tribal affairs in our country. i have asked the question very clearly from his highness . how much time do we have? 5 minutes, not my servant. you in a minute or two, we have a summary. yes , that's right. answer this question. then we'll go. yes , of course, there are a lot of questions. now i don't know
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which one to address. they are ours, as you know very well, next to the high council of urban planning and architecture, there is a ministry of housing, and in fact, it was a city that later became the ministry of roads. what happened to the way of the tribes, what happened to the water of the tribes , it refers, it has a referral system , it does not have a special authority to follow up on its own issues, by the way, we are suffering from this.
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we used knowledge to get the work done in that design. now is not the time for me to tell you the details . we have seen the work getter that this organization can have authority and authority, which i told you before the meeting. look, we told you that we do not deny the hard work of our dear friends. we are not , but we want to say that our villages should move towards greater excellence. i don't have time to say that you are a designer when we design. my specialty is rural development. i am in master's degree. village area i am working, i went to the village and visited ter hadi, who has prepared the national entrepreneur, that village once did not consider the opinion of this national entrepreneur, then he designed the table so wide. like the standards of the city, where the street is closed , for example, the car should be covered. well, this is really the case, for example, we should go and put the seal of the islamic council on the bottom of hadi, put the seal of dehiari, and say that
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we have attracted the participation of the people. this is not really participation. now it's my time to say participation. what does that mean, mr. nouralli, did you get your answer? yes, thank you for your kindness the fact has not changed, mr. doctor, and in general , i know the lack of development of the country, and i still believe that the development and strengthening of the existing structures that make it work effectively is more effective for the holy system of the islamic republic. villages are a model that we have. friends say that my question is now, for example, the development of a social work organization. we agree that the development of a cooperative union is an inherently social work. well,
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when a cooperative organization is formed. this cooperative organization does the work of organizing the agricultural institutions of rome, it can go to the pump he can fill me with gas, he can go on his way, he can even create a foundation, he can bring benefactors to the cause, he can even participate in the construction of a school. let's give the social to the ministry of interior from tomorrow, that is, the discussion of the development of the organizations that is a sub-category of the organization, we should do from the ministry of jat, that the whole task of purchasing tezmin. and so-and-so , along with other works, let's give mr. ministry of interior , you go and develop this cooperative from tomorrow, so this shows that we cannot look we should have a distinction between social and economic debates, and these are tied together in many places, and this divisive view that has brought us to this situation, which has separated production from the actual infrastructure , we have reviewed the experiences of the countries of the world, look at south korea, india, i apologize. india is not
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south korea, china, japan, which is an institution for europeans, england, america, brazil, these are the guardians of their villages and agriculture. now i won't name names, canada, kenya, nigeria, south africa from europe, there are very few countries where these two issues are in two independent institutions. because why because this is the world baba recognized that there is an inseparable connection between agriculture and the countryside, and if you destroy this connection, agriculture will not develop. you want a prime example. it is a big issue for us right now. our problem is food security. you have eaten agricultural land. well, i want to solve the problem. you have eaten the land . there is too much labor in one. in fact , you can see two hectares at a time. if you want to do this in one piece, you should make 6 people, for example, three people. what should we do with these 3 extra people? we should create a side job. side job in the industry. converting a side job in manual industry to a side job in gomgerdi, when you don't see these connections, not
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agriculture. it grows, not a village, it becomes a village , because the village does not have income-generating opportunities, people migrate, for these reasons, we say that there must be a trustee of the same fabric , and different structures that perform specialized civil tasks should continue to do their work, but one we must have a structure that can make this policy and interpret planning from the bottom up. we definitely need it . nour ali and mr. khomeini, who were with us, all the good viewers of the higher program, who, like you , accompanied us until this moment, may god protect you , whether it is higher than faru or higher today.
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