and the economic procedures are now creating obstacles for me. this is a separate issue, which is the issue of obstacles to participation and people's presence in the economy, but we are talking about the principle of this theory and view . in this view, when we say that people are the axis of the economic system, this is the centrality shows itself in the sense of responsibility in role-playing, and this should lead to their economic activism, and naturally , decision-making and basically economic decision-making should be based on the interests of the public. in our country, it is definitely ideal there is a long distance, well, this is natural, because after all, we are still on the path of reforming the economic system of our country , we have missed many opportunities during these 45 years, there is no doubt about it, now some decades are referred to as decades.

for example, the 90s can be called a burnt decade, not at all because the people's economy could not grow, but because we were left behind in the economy, and now in the people's economy , since the beginning of our revolution, we can see numerous examples. we understand that, unfortunately , our economic decision-making does not have such a perspective since the time when structural adjustment and free market were discussed. i did, and in the future, but well, during the almost 14-15 years that hazrat agha has been producing the slogan of the year and always with mahootah, this has a message in itself, and this people's participation in this year's slogan has been taken into consideration in this way. it should not be surprising that, for example, this year, mr. agha paid attention to the fact that the people have something in common, why in previous years they did not let the people stand next to the production slogan, this person who is a little more familiar with mr. agha's statements will see that no, it is not like that, that is, he is in the same statement this year. he said a sentence in a conversation

on april 15, when he said that mr. rahai people's participation should be shown. let those sit and show the possible ways for the participation of different groups of people. last year, which was exactly on april 1st, last year, the slogan of last year did not refer to the people, it was just the jump in production to curb inflation. they made exactly the same content and the same demand last year. to say that we haven't thought about the ways of people's participation, we should show the people the plan for people's entry into the economic field . from other issues and obstacles that exist. thank you , mr. mortazavi. please tell me about the relationship between the model that we are talking about under the name of the islamic model and

the discussion of profitability. hosni , let me make a point , the discussion of the islamic model, which was also the subject of your question, is related to people's participation in all fields. that in the field of production, distribution , consumption, exchange, all people should be involved in activities to be economic, this pandemic of economic activity, this responsibility of everyone in each of these areas , the axes that i presented to you is an element that is emphasized by imam rahel and any software. whoever

wants to create this method of participation should see the presence of the people in all spheres. the expression that i borrow from mr. hosni is that in these 45 years, although we have had successful experiences in the fields of our foreign policy and our domestic policy in the field of people's participation. we had and now we will have an election, god willing, but in the field of rape. towards economic policy making benefit of the people and with the participation of all the people , our experiences are more limited, in other words , we did not design the ways that we should design for people's participation in this field very well , we did not provide the software for it in the whole country, why experiences in the field of jihad building it

we also have the slogan of building jihad together, a slogan that was even included in the so-called logo of construction jihad . i said this before we got far from mr. hosni's speech, i will complete it a bit his excellency's request, how can the activities be profitable, basically, economic activities are motivated to be able to support a person's life, and anyone who invests , works, provides the land, or presents a new creative idea. it makes his life so to speak in this field. but the point that exists in imam's thought is that the ownership of these items and the separation of profit that can happen to each of these factors of production occurs in some economic systems, that is

, when you remove the individual from his own work he cannot participate in your economic activity unless he has access to a credit, he has access to a capital. he has and well , since he does not have this capital at his disposal , he cannot do economic activity. his talent , his ability and his creativity will be lost. therefore, islam and imam rahel, who is talking about islam in the modern society, is not against economic activity and profitability. but their clear statement is that we believe that these cases are illegal, even though the rights of each of the production factors will be usurped. we are against exploitation, so where does this form from relationships? you define the property that you have in society when you, god forbid , cross the property rights of people, or give large properties to a number of people and

deprive others of them for no reason, or for example access to credit, credit is a very important element , the word credit is not mentioned in our constitution, but the provision of capital for the participation of all for the labor force is included in the principles of the constitution, and the government is obliged to do this groundwork. so that everyone has access to enough capital, including may bank loans, when you make this access to credit only for some people and they no longer have that access to this credit , those people make a lot of progress materially and others in their place. they remain and the distances are constantly increasing . how should this access be done? in addition, yes , there is literature in this field, the literature on financial inclusion, which, for example, we talk about in economics , that is why easy access is easy and

the people should be provided with stable loans, facilities and services, for example, a bank in our economy, which is bank-oriented it is possible to develop capital supply and the like , well, from this literature. it is possible to use the experiences that have existed in the past in the islamic republic of jihad sazandagi as a helping arm of the people and the people in the problems of the country . it has become its own road administration, it has become a water administration, and it is working on all this so that people can develop their own production capacity and from that. use it when you look at some unofficial statistics yes, half of the adults in your country did not have access to bank credit, that is, basically , they did not receive money from banks. yes, i am talking about unofficial statistics that

are estimated. it is given to academics that you go and study different theories about human experiences and experiences. come and set an example for iran itself, for this discussion of increasing people's participation , the discussion of getting rid of our poverty and weakness, well, in the government of the martyred president, mr. raees, mr. raeesi, who, by god's mercy, was the first time that state banks we, our state-owned companies, all started publishing their own financial reports. this was done by the order of the president and by the ministry of economy, for example . well, i, a former researcher, did not have access to this information. to have a way to prevent the concentration of wealth with some people and the access of others. until the year 1400 , we did not publish the financial statements of many of our state banks until the year 1400.

this was the order of the president . alhamdulillah, it happened . we have if in the same way in the government these will be published in the future, our researchers and our academics can also participate in this field, and according to the existing studies that you said, where is the source? well, the statistics related to the one or two years that we have , we are doing the analysis that we have. this gives us the results that, sir, access was not equal for all people. if this statistic is published , god willing, we will be able to present a more accurate, clearer and official picture . thank you, mr. hosni. see the types of things that people can participate in the economy various people's participation according to their ability and capacity , and also according to the platforms and structures that

can be defined in an economic system. we can make a picture for the people, this examination of the roles, naturally, this can be the determinant of these types, it was said at the beginning of the discussion, if we can say that the skilled worker with the experience of a type of worker map , issue an elite map. a scientist is a person who has a knowledge-based idea, a type of entrepreneur, manager, not a type of capital owner, whether cash capital or capital physical, a kind of educational and skill-learning map , a map that this teacher himself can find again, which can be updated. people map type. and the groups that create culture motivate consumers, we also

said that this is a kind of plan only among the people, but now this is only in the stage of carrying out production activity . we have these roles, after discussing again, the explanation will come up the explanation network again, all people can play the role of rain, now these are based on an activist. it was productive, but what is beyond this? beyond that , for example, you can make plans, for example, we want to make an economic decision in the economic system, in this economic decision-making, there must be methods and platforms for asking people's opinions, and now they also discuss other issues, the relationship between economics and politics . and almost now , we may see these roles right now, we see that people finally have one of the roles, but what is important is that this role becomes popular.

well done to everyone, it means that if i, as a member of this society, as an ordinary person, decided to fulfill one of these plans according to my abilities , there is no obstacle in front of me, i can fulfill these roles. it is possible for everyone to find a big picture , and it may be equal to its realization after a reasonable period of time, this is the time when that economic system has become a people's economic structure, which means that people easily play a role in it, and naturally, in such a situation, everyone can play a role. mr. mortazavi's role is directly and effectively played by himself please tell us that now we are talking about the role of people , for example, now only capitalists can participate here or not, for example, can we count on someone who also has micro capital?

no, of course, all people should be counted on in this field. in addition to the role that people can play, like mr. doctor, i want to express the many roles that people can have, so to speak. i want to focus on a specific role. it is also the role that people can play in choosing the right policy to get out of the existing situation. well, we are in in our own political system , we are facing the direct participation of the people in the process of legislation, the selection of legislators as well as executives , but in choosing the optimal policy that can make the people use the capacities of this country well , activate them and toward growth and excellence , we have a problem, in other words, our planning system in this situation. he has not been able

to express a good balance between the achievements in terms of economy and the capacities that exist. these words are also included in the statement of the second step of the supreme leader. well , here sometimes we seek to the sovereign government must correct these processes and we ignore the role of the people in choosing the optimal policy . i want to focus on this role as well , that is, not only that year when you said that people can also help the economy with their own funds. and there are methods for that, including the cooperative method that is included in our constitution, in the policies announced for the seventh plan, the sixth plan of the resistance economy policies, the supreme leader has emphasized that people with capital they can find entry, but what is the conversation here we want to emphasize that the role of the people is in policy-making, people should not just vote until the executive or legislature comes and

makes a good law for them. who chooses , they should also support their own interests out loud , that is, they should seek that, sir, if this economic policy that exists is not in the interest of everyone, they should express it and seek to help the government to implement that optimal policy. if you choose according to the orders of hazrat amir see also in the owner's agreement. do it there , you will see that the subjects will not be reformed except by the good of the governor , and the governor will not be reformed except by the persistence and perseverance of the people in the right path. we have this part of persistence and perseverance of the people, that the people of iran are very patient and very persevering, and we have seen this many times, but their perseverance is based on

the long-term national interests that we have in iran . god willing, we can have much brighter horizons. thank you very much , mr. mortazavi, a member of the academic staff of razavi university, for being with us in this conversation, mr. hosni bazar. how much can the capital contribute to the presence of the people and the participation of the people in the economy with the same amount of capital that i asked mr. mortazavi to help ? first of all, people, let's pay attention to the types of roles that we mentioned, one of them was the role of providing capital, that is the new physical cash capital, so the capital market is a platform for the realization of one of the methods of people's participation. and this

was a very institutionalized idea that the capital market seems to be the same path this is what people should pay attention to. it means that people's participation in the financing of production and the economic system as a whole is exclusive of the people's participation in the economy. this is one of the traps. we should be aware of this. they don't have money, we counted the plans, the elite and the scientist are the skilled worker, the simple worker is the manager . basically, the idea of ​​the teaching process is what will happen to these? this is the first point , the second point is to keep even this in mind. financing itself through the capital market, in addition to the methods that play the role of financing with the platform , is one of the platforms, that is

, people necessarily participate in the financing of the economy as a participation in this field only. the path of the capital market should not be the only path . of course, they should keep in mind that yes, in general , the capital market, with its current state , accounts for less than 10% of the total financing of our economy, and the financial economy is a highly bank- oriented economy. well, we need to know this, so this is a point about the stock market and the capital market naturally, the financing that takes place is the real financing stage. i think that in the capital market, it is at that stage that invests in the primary market, providing financing for people in the primary market and the initial width is financing that goes directly into production, but the funds that are involved in the next stage and the annual market , we should be aware that this financing sometimes really means really, it is not necessarily related to the unit

that owns this share. it means that a person comes and buys shares and after some time he earns profit again with the same share and leaves. and something is earned , not necessarily the economic unit that owns this share, but people earn profits from this transaction in the secondary market, so the transactions that take place in the secondary market all of them do not necessarily directly affect the production , so it must be coordinated. you mentioned in your comments that there may be some obstacles and there are some obstacles regarding people wanting to participate in the economy. now, in the different spectrums that we talked about, if you want to say those obstacles, and now we are in, we are now in the election season. we can

have this advice from you to the next president on how to remove these obstacles . they are on the path of people's participation in the economy and the people, and i state that in the statements you broadcast in the middle of the program , you mentioned one of those obstacles, the discussion of these regulations, well, one is the discussion of removing cumbersome regulations, the second point is the fight against smuggling, these are all they are a motivator in people's participation, a serious ban on illegal importation is a struggle it is very important to deal seriously with corruption, both corruption in the public sector and corruption in the private sector . administrative violations and compliance with property rights are part of the removal of obstacles, but from the part of positive actions

, let's mention a few very important points. the issue of financing the people means that our financing system should provide financing to the people who want to do productive work and really. let them know that the discussion of credit management, which mr. dr. mortazavi also pointed out, is exactly the same point . we are now leading the credit of this honorable position of leadership in addition to its economic literature the need is felt, but we still have experts, people who basically do not accept credit management as a principle, well, these are still challenging issues that must be resolved, and we must focus on production, production financing, and banking system financing. let's direct it towards production, the discussion of obtaining information, economic opportunities , information rent, is one of the serious obstacles to becoming economically

empowered . and the ways that you that class of educators, again , the enablers of these do not necessarily need to be governments , the same people can play an important role in this role , especially for these challenges that you have listed , if you want, put forward a simple solution for the points that you mentioned. what do you think are the most important and the most important ones? look at these things that i mentioned. these are all the obstacles that exist in the path of people's participation and not moving towards solving any of these will cause the economy to become popular, so we necessarily have to make a choice. we are not with these, we have a series of responsibilities we are faced with urgent tasks , why shouldn't the fight against smuggling be the priority of the future government, or the serious prohibition of illegal imports, why, for example , why should it be the second priority, or, for example, the fight against corruption, that is corruption in the public or

private sector, dealing with violations administrative removal of burdensome regulations and the discussion of guiding the citizens of stravia to the information of economic opportunities, these are the things that are the inherent and natural duty of the government that comes to work and must do whatever is right . it's not enough , it means that these solutions are more than willpower the truth is that the person who will be able to take the responsibility of the government later must make a decision and believe in the necessity of doing this and that. this is a matter of belief and trust in the decision makers. let me use another topic from hazrat agha , he is talking about capacity. geography, infrastructure, and they say one sentence, they say that one of our problems is that we have officials in the country

, they basically do not believe in the existence of these capacities, and beyond that , they do not believe in the effectiveness of these capacities, and now this lack belief we see that in this discussion of the obstacles and factors of creating the economy of the people, it is possible for someone to come to this discussion of imports. it is unreasonable that i have used hazrat agha, i bring the same import without reason , sometimes they prescribe it with justifications, so it is a matter of belief and will. one more minute , we have an example. now we talked about the capital market , we said that there are other models that people use to participate with their capital, regardless of the roles that they play. from the simple skilled worker to the elite and academic , you mentioned that a part of this participation may be of a financial nature, where do you think it could be except the capital market? yes, look at the

current banking system. the main factor in financing production in our country is this banking system, if it wants to be more and more a platform for people's participation, there must be changes and reforms in it. we must have banks that are experts in the field of production and investment, that is, the bank that we know is this bank specialized investment bank. in production activities, the employees of this bank are experts in production, those who go to invest in this bank intend to invest in production , so there is a question of specialization of the bank, now commercial banks , all of our banks are considered commercial banks, their biggest problem is that basically , they don't want to get involved with investment issues in production, that is, they give facilities only to the approach that they have given education, such as guaranteeing and

taking sufficient collaterals. the important point of another correction is that we can create a series of deposits in our banking system right now, for example, we we do not have a specific type of deposit. all of our investment deposits are long-term. for example , special deposits are project-oriented deposits , which means that without making a deposit in our bank system , money is deposited in this deposit. for example, i am a depositor, let me know that this 10 million tomans of mine will be deposited in a particular capital project . there is no idea that i am proposing now. in many islamic countries , there is a discussion about special deposits, and now there are other solutions that can be discussed in the next opportunities. thank you very much, sir. hosni, who was with us in this conversation about the economic transition of imam hossein university , i would like to thank all the good viewers of this program who accompanied us until this moment, may god protect you, ali.

our nation, but also the islamic nations and the oppressed of the world , are proud that their enemies are the enemies of god , the holy quran and dear islam. there are predators who do not stop any crime and betrayal for their sinister criminal intentions and to reach the presidency they do not know friend from enemy, and at the head of them is america, this terrorist is a state that has set the whole world on fire. and his ally is the global zionist, who

commits crimes to achieve his goals, which pens are ashamed to write and tongues to speak. what honor is higher and higher than that america with all its claims and all its instruments of war and all its powerful governments and holding the endless wealth of oppressed backward nations and holding all the mass media in front of the zealous nation iran and the country of hazrat baqitullah, our souls, have been so deceived and disgraced that they don't know who to turn to, and to whomever they turn, they hear rejection. and this is not included the unseen help of hazrat bari ta'ala, his majesty, who has visited the nations, especially the nation of islamic iran .

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