that the world has shown a very special favor to electric cars, one of the challenges is that now we are comparing , there are two points in our country. 8 that go 6 , going to work until one in the afternoon, this was due to the problem of electricity in terms of hours, because we had a lack of electricity. another point is that the infrastructure of electric cars is not ready yet, we want to talk about this, everyone. challenges that exist. in all the problems that i have presented to you. if if you are interested , please stay with us until the end and watch us on the news channel. nim conversation companion. i gave you an explanation about

the process of electrification , what was the need of our country due to electrification, and what are the two most important challenges that exist, one is that our infrastructure , experts and critics say, is still not very complete, one of which is its electricity supply. also , the electric charging stations that we will talk about in the program are present here in our studio, mr. karimi senjari, the special representative of the minister for the development of electric vehicles, as well as mr. haddadi. the expert i am present at the other nimrozi discussion studios, mr. damaschi, the manager of bana electric vehicle center, we will talk with them, but before we enter into the discussion , i invite our guests to go and watch a report together . we will come back and start our conversation . it depends on the battery, but for example , for this car, a half-hour exhibition to enter the field of electrification of our transportation industry is not actually the reason. the speed of electrification is slow, but my question

is, when did this matter start? it has been 5 years. why is there a delay? in the case of big projects in the country, i know it cannot be criticized in any way. according to the order of the president , the ministry of electrification is on the agenda . first, domestic production , we are doing the electrification phase, this project is also planned. god willing , by the summer of this year, the initial models will be built , the testing and validation process will start, in the continuation of the industrialization phase, and finally, by the end of this year, we will be able to bring the riray electric product to the end of the development phase, the fuel consumption will decrease drastically, the type of fuel it goes out of the limit, we can move with renewable energies i promise you that this year, god willing , we will see high-quality iranian electrical products in the market.

of course, with everyone's help and based on the law on organizing the automobile industry and the clean air law, the import of electric cars is also being pursued. in the recent registration, more than 140,000 people have registered, and in fact , there are more than 10,000 electric cars at the moment. we are drawing lots among these 140 thousand people to hand over these 10 thousand devices this year , god willing, in the field of electrification of the transport fleet. we will witness a transformation in the city. safari, sed and sima news agency. yes, i have the report of my colleague mr. safari we also saw i would like to start with mr. senjari and ask the question of which stage of the electrification of the industry we are in now, both in production and import. the last statistic you gave was that 140,000 people registered for 10,000 cars. it means that people's luck has been good until now. does it mean that you need 14 per car? yes. in the name of allah, the most merciful, the most merciful, i

greet you, your excellency, your colleagues, the noble nation of iran , just as you correctly said, something about 140 thousand people are requested to buy electric cars , of course, i want one thing. i would like to say that this 140,000 could actually reach higher numbers because we are actually limited in the number of electric vehicles. we had 140,000 registrants of 10,000 electric cars, which will be completed by july, god willing. right now, there are about 78,000 of them, and 200 of them will arrive by july, god willing, and they can be sold. there are 10,000 people, so to speak, out of those 140,000 people, yes. your report

was also from the last years, from maybe the last five years of its start in the industry of this country. in previous governments it was eaten, but it was a very slow process, maybe it was not taken very seriously as a fantasy industry, but in the 13th government , especially since mr. aliabadi sat in the chair of the ministry, the issue became more serious. getting more serious about electrification in this period is actually mastering the position. and there were features that electric cars can create in the so-called country, both in the so-called area of ​​reducing fuel consumption and in the area of ​​reducing emissions, and a very important issue that we should pay attention to is the

so-called movement of our automotive industry towards electric. it is because we are in the future in the not so distant future. we will face an automobile industry in the world that will no longer produce combustion vehicles , so countries and companies that insist on continuing to produce combustion vehicles will face the challenge of supplying materials and parts in those years. see what the ministry of samit is doing to import production, the number that we actually set as a target and this program depends on how much we actually succeed in providing the so-called infrastructure. 100 thousand taxis. i emphasize taxi because public transportation is one of the targeted points of the ministry. these are considered for the year 1403, the time

is not considered because we are still facing challenges in the infrastructure field. in fact , if we can, in the field of infrastructural challenges. let's solve it. naturally, this program can be realized in one year, and if we can't solve our challenges quickly, in fact, this program may last up to two or three years. 1,000 electric buses and 400,000 electric buses how much is the goal set by the ministry of electric motorcycle for the first phase of electrification in the country ? please let me know that right now we are in the middle of the supply process, both in the field of undercarriage and in the field of

car supply. about 8,000 of them have the ability to become a taxi, which means that they have the conditions to become a taxi, but the fact that the taxi organizations of the municipalities have the necessary luck to become a taxi. to buy and supply these cars. i agree with you that there has been very little progress in the field of buses, so far we have been able to supply less than 100 electric buses either in the form of production or in the form of supply, but so to speak.

according to the so-called predicted plan , those buses were 200, that's right, 200 of which we hope that they will actually be released this year, and together with the continuation of this cycle, the worn-out car of rome is in your plan, that is, the electric car will come. now the cycle of transportation from taxi and ride to bus and motorcycle is worn out take it out or not, we just have a resolution approved by the economic council there. in fact, for every renewal of every electric taxi and replacing it with a gasoline taxi , it gives a subsidy amount to the so-called buyer. if we want

to move from it based on that approval and using those helpers, naturally, a gasoline car must be retired, but otherwise , there is no requirement to retire, that is, if we replace taxis to take subsidy, naturally, a gasoline car should be phased out, mr. haddadi what do you think about this rail change that seems to be taking place in the country's transportation , although according to the statistics that mr. karimi mentioned , it is not a very fast process, but it seems that something is changing. what do you think? in your opinion, is the move towards the rest of the country a desirable move or not? in the name of god, hello and have a good time. i am at your service, dear guest of the program and all the viewers, see mr. nasib, if we were talking about this a decade ago, then we could have said that it they are a creative phenomenon

, they are a technological phenomenon, but we are living in these times electric cars are no longer that special event, now a large part of the world's car market is devoted to electric cars, and naturally they are no longer that special event, and therefore we are not facing a super phenomenon, so we are against it. an electric car is basically not logical either, but the issue that is being discussed in the middle and most of the experts deal with it is that it is the way of implementation and the way of entering the world of electric cars in the market of the country, which was very accelerated during the last year and always with the statement opinions are usually contradictory, often controversial, sometimes non-expert

, usually all in the mind of the future customer cars are usually the charging stations , which in my opinion is much more than this. if we are looking at foreign countries that are selling electric cars in their conventional form , they will have to go through a path of at least a decade. later, hybrid cars, plain hybrids , later reduced the size of their engines. later , there will be an incentive plan related to electric cars, and later , step by step, electric cars

will actually find their place. we still have many challenges for our gasoline cars. we haven't forgotten the car that actually reached a point with its standard argument and argument . after all, you have to start from somewhere, this is not the right idea in my opinion, why you have to start from here, why in this way, why now there are several very important items in the discussion of electric cars, apart from the topic of after-sales service, what happens to an electric car if if he has an accident , what will be the cost of repairs? they have a union , they have technical standards, such as gasoline or ice pumps. if these are the terms of the after-sales service of the ministry of age for them

mr. senjari said that it is actually half way if 10,000 cars should be delivered in the next 90 days and he has not yet received any of these questions. the answer is not answered, so you are saying that the after-sales service should be seen. now, it is culture and it is used in cultural fields . once it was charged, now the maintenance costs are very heavy. now, if it is actually lithium or nickel. it is cadmium, which is probably lithium ion, in terms of safety cars can actually be challenging , keep in mind that in developed countries , a special section is now reserved for the fleet and their firefighting system for electric vehicle firefighting , while we basically did not enter at all, not even talking about

electric cars, we just went in this direction, now we also have to have an electric car and go towards reducing fuel consumption. well, in the studio next to us, mr. damaschi , the manager of the mapna electric car center, is present, on another occasion, yes, we definitely want your answer, i want to see that in the infrastructure of the stations that he pointed out, honorable, now i think because it has a basis . it is the supplier of the stations, i want to see how much the station has been provided so far, in terms of infrastructure, how much preparation is there in the country, so hello, i say hello to your viewers, thank you. from the program that has been arranged , it is one of the requirements to enter the field of electrification, in fact , these are the programs that should be arranged, including in the radio and television, for the discussion of culture that people should know what phenomenon they are facing if in in fact, i would like to introduce a couple of points for you to enter into the discussion of charging infrastructure

from our point of view, the more correct term is the charging network, because we have an electric network, we must have a charging network for the people, which is connected at the end point in our dispatching to the electric network , which we call the charging network, the charging network of all there are requirements and infrastructures, including the correct location of the charging station, the discussion of studies on the correct location of the charging stations , the set of slow chargers that are installed inside the houses , the chargers that are installed in the streets , fast chargers and ultra-fast chargers that should be used to serve in fact, public transportation in the area of ​​auto b private and public taxis should be used. therefore, we call this collection actually a charging network. what people need as a personal electric car, which is part of the registrations that happened recently in this field, we should note that the average charging installed in the world is about two kilowatts in terms of power

, while the fast charger in the world is mostly power above 60 kw or 100 kw or 20. they have kilowatts. this statistic shows that the focus of the electric world, especially in the transportation related to personal and private cars, is on slow chargers mean that people are advised to charge more that they can use from inside their homes. the electricity network has expanded throughout the country and is also widespread throughout the world , so if we want to have a general version for cars in in fact, it is better that we are actually bloody chargers. let's use it to provide charging conditions in people's houses . a charger will be given along with the cars, so that they can charge their cars anywhere with a longer time. a charger will be installed inside the house and in the parking lot when they want to go out into the street and have a shortage of chargers, for emergency situations , they can use public fast charging stations , for taxis, fast charging stations should be used, they need to

be charged once a day, while private cars may need to be charged twice during the week be according to the navigation. over 300 to 500 kilometers that the imported cars now have , night charging is defined for electric buses. night charging is done once a night. what is our situation now? well, in the field of electric buses, a charging station has been created in karaj, now they have electric buses. there there are 40 electric buses in operation , and weekly charging operations are being carried out. in iraq , a charging station for electric buses has also been created. we currently have these two electric bus charging stations in tehran. 10 points have been selected for electric bus charging stations, and the infrastructure processes are underway. our contract has just been signed and we are doing studies and soon the implementation processes for imported buses and the number of 500 domestic buses that have been provided , the implementation processes for the charging infrastructure will be done . as for our taxi cars, we already have 17

we have a charging station that can actually provide some of these services to taxis. most of the electricity supply problems that were mentioned before have been solved. fortunately, a very good understanding has been established with the ministry of energy . the municipality and the buses that tehran municipality is importing are responsible for next year , about 80 megawatts for this year. we have an agreement with the ministry of energy, of course, this is only for the city of tehran. for other provinces and cities , the conditions are somewhat better because, after all, the lack of electricity that exists now or those peak hours that occur in the summer, in fact , the main pressure is on the province. tehran is big , in many cities and other places, it is less . now we have several charging stations in tehran, 17 charging stations, and in

fact, a collection of chargers that are slow and fast in public and some automobile companies that we have a total of approx in fact, there are 100 chargers, and we have a new contract with tehran municipality, which will add about 70 new disks , which actually includes 900 chargers, which is the first phase, in the second phase of our contract. it is such that we actually have to do this for about 8 months. let's do it in the 8-month process , but since, god willing, the financing will happen and the contract will be notified to us , the contract has been signed, the preparations have been made after the notification of the contract and financing. we need to activate the charging station in about 8 months thank you, mr. senjari. several points were raised regarding the infrastructure. one of them is the charging stations

. please tell me. one of them was the after-sales service . of course, there were other points. i have noted them all. see mr. haddadi's comments . the comments are completely correct, and it is the concern of the people. this is the development process of electrification in the world, which means you can't just bring electricity. minus the culture building, minus the infrastructure development that i am explaining now , you can see that in the world, going to hybrid cars first, this is about 20 years ago, 30 years ago , the challenges of electric cars, such as the price of batteries, as in in fact, the provision of charging or electric storage of electric cars , the discussion of after-sales service, the discussion of the market's desire to buy electric cars 20 years ago is different from today , that is, if in the world and the big car companies of the world are moving towards the production of hybrid cars, it is not because, in fact, to

we have the term "modern challenges" today, maybe two decades since the development of hybrid cars, the world's challenges regarding electric cars have been resolved, that is, now an electric car is like a gasoline car. wasn't gasoline a challenge in the past , but now electricity has the same challenges as it should now. compared to two minutes ago, what we do is very different we are now conducting continuous meetings where all the beneficiaries gather around a table . this is the development of these measures, that is, in the discussion of after-sales service, all the companies that are importing or want to manufacture cars, first of all, there are those who can be importers. in fact, these are car manufacturers , even if they are only importers, which are very few in number, they must go to a car manufacturer and

use the after-sales service and after-sales service network of that car company. have a notary in the protocol or in the program, in fact, the so-called service very strict after sales. it is being dealt with. this means that there should be a specific program to establish special agencies, special repair shops that are dedicated to electric cars, which means that they have special features, in fact , they have safety items that they must comply with, they must train personnel. they must be able to communicate with the so-called manufacturing company in terms of the software of these imported cars , and the manufacturing company must certify that i actually provide software coverage and support for your car because these are a type of car. are connected

i would like to inform you that the safety and after-sales services are being fully complied with , that is, the 8,000 units that you mentioned have been imported by companies that have been determined to comply with this issue. then the visits made by our colleagues in the ministry of transport and private sector contractors , companies that are private sector contractors , go to the ministry of poisons and evaluate the program and these conditions. this also applies to buses and other things. bus and motorcycle definitely , definitely, now the bus is a different story because the buyer of the bus is actually not the so-called private sectors, that is, they are municipalities, they themselves have wide and long organizations, which, by the way , are actually more focused on these issues, charging, and you didn't just ask for charging, i think about everyone, mr. damaschi

, explaining the standard charging stations. it is special that these are actually being managed in different meetings . all my explanations are about the installation of parking lots. my only explanation is an important question, which is to ask you to forgive me. let's consider together how much charging station how much do we need in your plan? in any case, you have planned your number. you also said about the after-sales service that a specific number is planned for the stations. charging points, not charging stations for tehran, something around 900 charging points are planned for us to be able to organize these charging points in tehran level , and naturally , we need time and capital to do something else. i would like

to say that the discussion is about the path of development, that is, the expansion of this station see the discussion about its maintenance and repairs. an electric car is a simpler car compared to combustion cars. first of all, the cost of maintenance for a consumer, especially a taxi driver, is something

like that because you do n't have an oil and filter replacement. gasoline is actually longer periods, if we compare the actual rate of payment of electricity with subsidized gasoline, this number that i told you is at the price of subsidized gasoline, the figure that is paid in an electric car

. i calculated that a taxi driver spends approximately 50% of gasoline at 1,500 tomans and 50% of gasoline at 3,000 tomans. i came and got the average. in fact, with an average of 10 liters per 100 kilometers, the taxi drivers themselves , if you go and ask, the number is higher than these, because these taxis are often worn out. their difference has reached such a figure, of course, with the number you say, 570 tomans is almost a subsidy for my electricity. it means that the subsidy that the government is giving on gasoline and the subsidy that the government is giving on electricity, the difference is something like 270 million tomans per year for a car, which means that if the government does not give the subsidy on gasoline, it will be reported to you. let's subtract my electricity subsidy from it. here, the government

will generate 20% for each electric taxi that replaces the gasoline taxi , which will create good benefits for both the consumer and the government. i will let you explain the battery. tell me, sir, the price is good, all these cars have a battery warranty of at least 7 years, which means that after 7 years , these cars do not need batteries at all. in the last 10 years, the price of f battery has increased by 83% in the next 7 years, i think good things will happen in reducing the price of batteries, but with the assumptions of today, if we want to calculate, the battery itself must be moved, that is, the packaging that cannot be moved , something like 30 million tomans per year for

a taxi driver. at today's price, at today's price, i think two things will happen in the next seven years, one, the price of batteries will decrease drastically, and the process of recycling batteries will reach a good point, that is, i think that in the next seven years, you so-called taxi driver can sell his remaining battery for at least 40-40 thank you mr. haddadi.