the leader of the islamic revolution, in his nowruz speech this year , emphasized to the public that fundamental reforms in the budget structure should be carried out at the end of the deadline for the implementation of this program, which was compiled with the aim of economic prosperity along with justice, while the inflation is in the single digits. . most of the items of the 7th plan bill after several stages of going back and forth between the islamic council. and the guardian council approved the guardian council. there are still several articles that need to be amended in the opinion of the guardian council , but with the insistence of the parliament to approve these items , the bill of the 7th plan is now pending. the final approval is in the expediency council. tonight, in the special news interview of our table, dr. saeed jalili, one of the six candidates of the 14th election cycle. we are the presidency.

with this introduction, let us say goodbye to the dear viewers of one sima channel . thank you very much for being with tonight's special news talk. as i mentioned, in tonight's talk, mr. dr. jalili, one of the six candidates of the 14th presidential election cycle , is with us in the studio. mr. dr. jalili , i greet you. service hello and good evening to you and all our dear people . in the introduction, i mentioned the 7th plan and let's

start the questions in the special news discussion about the 7th plan and the general issues and goals of this program. of course, it has been approved, please tell me which programs you played a role in drafting and approving, and do you consider the model of the 5-year plan useful for the country, in the name of allah, rahman al-rahim, almost from the fifth plan, which i was in charge of the political part, and then the sixth plan because of my membership. in the diagnosis group. and now in the seventh program because he is a member of the high committee i am the high oversight board of the high oversight of the assembly . we followed the discussion of the seventh plan completely, because you know that one of the duties of the high oversight board of the assembly is to determine the expediency, and one of its tasks is to check this plan so that it does not contradict the policies announced by the leadership regarding the seventh plan. this is necessary. i

read the 7th program carefully, we checked even the cases that had contradictions , we discussed in the supreme supervisory board, we talked, and then many of them were amended later, and even this was done in order to comply with the policies of the detailed leadership. there is a seventh because of this the responsibility i had, i have a good attitude towards the subject. what seems to be very valuable is that the new government will start its work with the start of the 7th plan, and this coincidence, in my opinion , is a very valuable opportunity for the government to start its work with a plan that is agreed upon in the country anyway. a program is started which is no longer a program of taste , but has become a law, has been approved, and today it is a basis and a charter. the 5-year work of the future of the country is

starting this work, and this is very valuable. even the question you asked, whether i know the program yes, i think that if the country wants to make progress, it should have a leap, which i said. if we are talking today that we have a chance for a world, we must have a leap iran . it is necessary to have a plan and believe in the plan. i remember at the beginning of the 6th plan, which was written in 1992, the government did not believe in the plan at all and stated that i remember this plan. the president at the time said in the assembly that no, we do not follow this plan very much at all. and that's why he didn't participate in the meetings related to the other program in those 8 years of the lack of this program, at the end when i reported, only 30% of the program had been implemented, which was the same everyday things, and then and when the growth was negative. and

we had zero. this is the lack of a program. i think this program is a worthy program. of course, i would like to say that it is said that we are ready to carry out this program now. in the plan itself , the government has been tasked with many cases in which they have to write plans in some of the clauses, that is , there are about 15 cases that the government has been tasked to write their plans within a year, and there are 17 cases that the government has been given a mandate to write within a year. write the plan for 6 months 7 there is also a case where they said to write within 3 months, and there is a case where they said within two years, this shows that the government should have respect for the program and has a serious mission, which means that a large number of programs should be implemented faster under this program. prepare that one of the discussions that i rely on is that if they say these things, for example , within a year, within 6 months, this should be speeded up

, because then the program will be implemented sooner, and the duty of the government is to hear these things quickly and do the programs that were requested in the seventh program, mr. doctor. let's go back to the report diwan aruchut, which mentions that the 6th plan has been implemented less than 30% , what is your pathology of this issue and what are your solutions for the full implementation of the 7th plan, see why the plan is not implemented, it is an important discussion . for example , we had 6 programs after the revolution , we had 6 programs before the revolution, of course, that is the sixth program. it was not performed before the revolution, it was written, but it was not performed anymore. the interesting thing is that when you read these 6 programs before the revolution, 6 programs after the revolution and those who are involved in organizing and compiling these programs for example, in 2017, in order to write the program at that time

, the program organization invited a group from harvard university to iran to write the program of that time. they have been in iran for 4 years. in 2041 , they published a book called planning in iran. of course, a book was published a few years later in 2046 called planning and development in iran. i have read these two books, for example. that coming to iran and doing this review after 4 years , they raise a discussion about planning in iran, which now i want to tell our dear people, especially the youth and i recommend those who are interested to read this book. it has also been translated into farsi. unfortunately , even though this book was written in 1941 , for example, after 62 years of reading this, you can see that some of these problems still exist. it means why you do not complete a plan, this is very important and the president must know this

, it is not enough to just read the plan, he must have knowledge of the program and the path it is taking, the obstacles that exist in the executive structure. what is the country's administration in the cultural space? there is a country's political economy that can prevent it make a plan and make a move to remove these obstacles and make that plan come true. what you said , this same program has been implemented 30% before, 30% means you don't even make a plan, after all, the program will spend a certain amount on the daily issues of the country , the current issues of the country, this 30% means you don't even write a plan , which unfortunately we have in those 8 years at the end of the decade. it was 90, we had this that, unfortunately, in the sixth plan, yes, according to the reports of the government agencies at the same time, this was not implemented. there is one point . now, in the seventh plan, the general goal and main priority

is the issue of economic progress combined with justice. the average economic growth rate is 8%, and of course, a very important point with an emphasis on the increase in interest. let's go to find out what is the solution in your government to realize these issues which are considered as the main goal and overall priority in the 7th plan. at the same time as the policies of the plan were being written, that is , the draft was being written and then the supreme leader announced it. well, a series of goals were defined for the 7th plan, for example, the growth of 88, inflation below 10%, about the liquidity of these , some numbers came. for example, growth in 2008 is not possible. some people say that if this happens, then this inflation cannot be done. we have studied this for hours, both in the working groups that we were part of in that discussion of the shadow government, and

sometimes in the supreme supervisory board itself and discussions that we had discussions with friends of the government and especially the parliament, not really my conclusion is that these goals are completely achievable, but it takes work, which means that you have to be serious about it, that is, what i said means that if, for example, you said 15 things, it will take a year to plan. . go write this, you should not delay it now , then now just a few months will pass you should target their programs at the first opportunity that the law defines and write it even sooner and follow the work. see some of the issues that i mentioned. if you don't have elites , you will see this work at once. maybe everyone will agree, but anyway. let us know that if we say a plan for progress, if we say a plan for the justice of the country, it means that the progress that is possible must be justice. after all, it endangers the interests of some people , and some people will suffer from it, and it

is not like being silent. they create obstacles against this, i will give an example our people are good, for example , we reflected a discussion to them at the beginning of mr. raisi's government about the fact that what is involved in the production, distribution and consumption of oil products is a very heavy waste and it is very conventionally accepted that, for example, between 2 and 40 for example, it is possible that this waste exists now, which means that what is produced is not necessarily explained as consumption. this is the solution to the planned system, mr. raisi. it is very welcome to refer this to the relevant institutions and after the end, it will be included in the seventh program. when i looked at my seventh program, i saw that there is no service in it mr. raisi, i said that this did not come, then they will follow up again. my suggestion is that you should follow up to see where it was not done. we did and i said, so you write a clause, we wrote a clause, we submitted it to the parliament, friends of the parliament, it has been followed up today, but again, this

is not enough, because you are still here, for example, it was said that this should be implemented, but if it is not done from the third year , so-and-so why shouldn't it be implemented from the third year, the strong government should come and follow this , what we wrote under the title of article 44 of the seventh program is a serious discussion, because it is a one time thing. in front of billions of dollars of resources. it is happening , we followed this up until it was included in the program , but this is not enough. now, how to write the bylaws and write them into the executive program, it should be followed up and this work should be followed strongly. see what you said, if, for example, we are talking about some issues that must be realized in the program , that is, you should have both the reduction of inflation and the growth of 88% . it has been mentioned a lot and today's program, in my opinion, has very good clauses that their help, which today is subject to the national agreement and

has become a law, is very nice. you can follow this work . one is, for example, the issue of riyal governance, the other is the management of the supply market. i am getting confused, these are the duties of the president, he should consider them as productive activities that are part of the goals of the 7th plan . see what each issue is to achieve these goals, for example, the price of width that was discussed

, now there may be different views, maybe with our colleagues in the same collection under the title the government has been doing this for hours, maybe tens of hours. one of the things we did on the board was to examine the process of land circulation within the country, and now there are these transverse exchanges and discussions about what is happening, which causes sometimes this. a crisis and some disruptions occur in the land market. well, this is not a very unknown thing . when you discuss this repeatedly for dozens of hours , you go step by step . for example, you see that there are some problems that you must master these problems, you must know not to let them continue. let me give an example look, i mentioned this in another program. if we are talking about the fact that the currency market should be regulated and stabilized, one of the requirements is that you must

be clear about the foreign exchange expenses and foreign exchange sources. how do you want to allocate the priorities, so that the market can find its peace and be predictable, that is, for example, we looked at this process , what is one of the problems that occurs in the land market, for example, you, for example, as an example an exporter goes to an importer to register an order, and the relevant device registers an order for him the ministry is doing the registration of the orders that is done, you have to see what are the priorities based on this order registration, it goes to allocate the width, then the interval between the allocation of the width and the provision of its own width, it takes a few months for the importer to get the job done. he should do it sooner, when he gets the order registration, because they will be sure about the width allocation, but from that side, the land

has not yet been secured, it might take 3 months, he will go to the market and start buying currency, this will shock the market. then, for example, if you exchange 42 tomans, it goes to the open market, for example, at a price above 50 tomans, 60 tomans, he buys these. this comes to a demand on the demand side, he enters the market , and it affects this. after a while, when his land was secured, for example, three months later, when he left , he got land from the central bank again. i wish it would be sold at a high price in the same market, see if there is a problem here, what is it? the distance between allocation and provision, when this form takes place, then it will cause such turbulences in this market. now there are some other things. i mentioned this as an example. let me put this in order, these are the basic discussions that exist, or, for example, now this is a higher step for our market, for example, our currency is the rial, every

country, if it wants to maintain the value of its national currency , the sovereign of its currency, which is the rial in our country, must have precise mechanisms for it. well, we must have a plan for the sovereignty of the rial so that it takes shape, that is, money, which is like blood circulation in the country's economy, if this happens, the registration of cancer cells will cause them to become fat and by the way, it will destroy the whole cell, so this is where you have to be careful if this is done can you go to the market without the rule of rial? to stabilize the economy or not, one of the serious debates and priorities of my government, which i have stated many times, is that the rule of the rial should be taken seriously . it should have the necessary governance . see, a powerful government means that this powerful government is not that, for example, now, for example, people make noise, it

is not that they should know who this money is now, where it is, what cycle it is in, especially big money, how it is. it can be done, these are the things that are many it is important, mr. dr. jalili, and now we have many other things, for example, to reform the banking system, for example, if you say, "i want to achieve this growth", the debate is, well , where does this education and credit go, this is one of the debates. what is very important now is that many of these bank facilities create money from people's pockets, especially some private banks, then how do they spend this, how do they provide facilities , on the one hand, for example, they give their own companies their own banks. then they give it to their big customers who are not necessarily in the production business after that right now, for example, maybe one or two of rome's homework students will do it. well, in a system where banking has a coherent form and is disciplined, it should be clear where this credit

is going. how much is it within the framework of the priorities set by this program ? one of the goals that the 7th program has emphasized in a very way is the issue of tax revenues . here is the fight against tax evasion the issue of making the tax system smarter and of course the issue of making the tax system fair is brought up, and i would like to ask what your government's solution was in this matter. you see, one of the most important discussions is the way the tax is looked at, sometimes this way . it is canceled that tax is an issue , a policy to earn income, not tax can be a so-called source of income, but what is more important than that is that tax is a tool for policy making so that you can direct your priorities in order to achieve this same justice. look at the bad way

, you can do many policies with legislation and tax policy only this is not to say, for example, that taxes are only a source of income. by the way, if you have a complete view, which is fine, i will use the tax tool, for example, in the direction of the producer support policy, in order to, for example, deal with the unnecessary import of these things, it will make this tax valuable , it may not necessarily be a source of income for you, but to the market. it gives order to the goals you have defined for the economy, that is , it can bring you to your goal and the justice that we say. you see, one of the things that is sometimes raised about taxes is that they say, "okay, sir." we do the work. some people say, sir, look, this puts pressure on the people, no, by the way, taxes, if done well, reduce the pressure on those people , and establish justice. how do you see that many people with low salaries pay taxes , then those with a astronomical incomes are not taxed

. you have to have a serious mechanism so that no one has tax evasion. after all, in the country, when a worker, an employee with a minimum salary, these are taxed, it is natural that someone who has an astronomical income has different arguments you have to pay tax on this too give him his share and prevent him from tax evasion . the powerful government is able to fairly from all those who have incomes , especially those who now sometimes enter a syrian transaction, sometimes enter a paper company . this is very important. this work must be done, therefore, what came in the 7th plan is a precise discussion, because this was the discussion, and again, the same 10% that was said from the gross national product, this should be the income of this 10%, which is the average tax income of some countries. that is

, in other countries that have been checked, even 14 in that country here, 10% is defined, so that this can be done in the best way, let's go to the issue of housing in the 7th plan, based on the 7th plan, the indicator of access to housing until the end of the seven and a half year plan . taken, now the definition of housing access index also indicates the number of years needed to buy a house, provided that the entire income of the khan is allocated to the issue of buying housing, and i would like to ask if your government's solution to realize this issue is in the plan anyway. housing is one of the main issues of our country. let me explain a little about this. it is important for you to see that i was in birjand, khorasan province just today. i was in the south until i left in the evening and came back at night, and here i am thanking the people of south khorasan , anyway , i thank them for the hospitality they have given me. see, i have come as far as i went. we

do not have a problem of lack of land in our country. we are a vast land. we don't have a shortage of land. what is the problem ? monopoly is the basis of discrimination in land. this is very important . the discussion is that one of the things that is very important. again, in the seventh program , alhamdulillah, there was a good resolution in the parliament, which was finalized and approved. the percentage of the country's area was allowed to that environment whether a settlement is added in the city or in the village, this is a very valuable opportunity in my opinion, which was planned for in the 7th plan.

something about 13 times the area of ​​one of the relatively large cities of the country is a very good opportunity, but the important thing is to see that the issue of housing for the country should not be looked at in a one-dimensional way , in the sense that when you are looking for housing for a new person the issue is what will happen to this job now, and then what place does it have in the country's economy in relation to this housing and this hunger for employment , so you should focus on this issue. not just to say where is the demand now, do they need housing, for example , let's go to them, for example, here is this housing, not beyond this, we need to see what is beyond, we need to

see the ratio of this housing provision and housing provision with the issue of land use and the macro economy of the country, one of the other good opportunities that the 7th government has the 14th , which, in addition to being the same as the start of the 7th plan, is also the same time as this policy. the announcements of the supreme leader about the sea -oriented economy, for example, if you are now in the seventh plan, we should have sea-oriented policies, which should include the share that we now have from the sea. we have, for example, dedarde should reach 10%, well, this is another big task, that is, an economic view based on the use of the sea's capacity , which we have a very good figure, for example, 4900 km , for example, we have a coastline in the south, which is with the north and south of one is approximately 5800 km,

so this is a big number for you. if you want to use the economy of the sea in such a way that your share of the sea, which is very small now, because you know that the countries that are our tributaries , use almost several times as much as we do, for example, some countries use 46 of those 36 ahead of the sea. their employment is done by sea. it is very valuable that we can take advantage of this opportunity , which has been announced in the leadership policies and with the seventh plan . let's just come and get a house for someone . now this house should be just for this . he does n't have a job. this is in the country's economy. we don't have anything to do with him . but for example, now i will tell you about your second dimension, which is now , for example, a dormitory. let's go for a while . no, you really need a place of peace for this what do you create, next to that, next

to your land, that is, next to your agriculture, next to your industries, next to your sea, in many places , next to it, the rest of your goals will be provided, this is another dimension that you should pay attention to in real estate. yes, housing is not just a dormitory, it is a living environment , and there is a set of cultural and social debates with it . now, for example, one of the debates that is being raised in housing is that, for example, you can see in your calculations, what is more important is that sir. how much was the size , how much was the cost, how much was the time, these discussions in housing, after all, an important discussion is architecture and quality discussions, that is, the discussion about the feeling of the space, the memory of the space, the belonging of the space , how are the neighbors of the neighborhood formed , the relationships between these, because after all, we are for our people if we want. we want to provide a peaceful and sheltered environment. this is what we want to do. now

, this is a matter of one-minute neighborhoods or cities, which means that you have to design it in such a way that, for example, he can reach a place of recreation from his place of residence within one minute, not that for example, they say, well , this is a dormitory for now, until then for example, it will take hours. i mean, i'm looking at housing, so i want to summarize it, because it's a discussion now , i will explain this in more detail later. i mean , looking at housing, first of all, we don't have a problem of land shortage, but sometimes we have a problem of land monopoly. and we have some of these problems, and according to the resolution in the 7th plan, which allocates 2/10% of the land , when this land shortage problem is solved, then your hands will be open, especially since the two main aspects of macroeconomics are you have to have the land and especially the social culture for this matter at that time in this field it is possible to do valuable work, god willing , mr. dr. jalili, in the general policies of the 7th plan

, on the subject of transformation of the administrative system, reforming its structure based on the general policies of the administrative system, with an emphasis on the issue of intelligentization and, of course, the realization of electronic government , it is emphasized for the full implementation of these things that it has been seen in the general policies of the 7th plan, what solutions are there in your government? at the beginning of our dear martyr's government, mr. raisi , we sent a plan for this issue. anyway, today, one of the topics that is one of the fields that helps you to create your administrative executive structure is the use of it is these communication technologies that, alhamdulillah , are making more progress day by day , and more successes are being achieved in this field. go to work, your work will be done , it is super smart that the government will go to you.

based on the existing communication mechanisms and technologies, for example, it informs you that you can get this loan now , you can do this, you can participate here , which means that not only will you not be delayed in the offices, but no one will answer you, but it is the department that will come to you, which we first presented to the government, mr. raisi, and they also gave orders to follow up, this is one of those serious issues. see, we have said this many times. one of the most important priorities is that the government machine should start moving , your administrative executive structure should be fast and efficient. this is one of the discussions that we have when we say, sir, we want to start 8 growth. one of them is to increase productivity. it has several components, one is what, the other is yes, for example, to increase productivity this is where you have to capitalize