bashi, if you say that i want to organize this market, these are the basic discussions that exist, or, for example, this is a higher step for our market, for example, our currency is the riyal. in our country, it is the rial , it needs to have precise mechanisms, so we must have a plan for the governance of the rial so that it takes this form, that is, money like that. there is blood in the country's economy. if this happens, the registration of cancer cells will make them fat and by the way, it will destroy the whole cell, so this is where you you must be careful that what you are doing , can you stabilize the economy market without the rule of the rial or not? one of the serious discussions and priorities of my government, which i have mentioned many times, is that the rule of the rial must it should be taken seriously, if any country wants to have a strong economy, it should

be able to have the necessary governance with the money it has and is circulating in its country. what is money now, where is it in what cycle is it in, especially big money? how is it done, these are the things that are very important, dr. jalili, and now we have many other things, for example, the reform of the banking system . and where is this credit going? this is one of the debates that is being discussed a lot now. many of these facilities are created by the banks from people's pockets , especially some private banks. on the one hand , for example, they give to their own companies , then they give to their big customers, who are now necessarily in they are not productive work, then at that time, for example, maybe two or two of rome's homework should be done . well, in a system where banking

has a coherent form and is disciplined, it should be clear where this credit is going. your presence , how much is the facility that is being given within the framework of the priorities set by this program, mr. dr. jalili, one of the goals that the 7th program has emphasized in a very way is the issue of tax revenues, now the ratio that has been considered is the ratio of tax revenues to the issue of production. gdp should increase by 10% find out here, the fight against tax evasion is the issue of making the tax system more intelligent, and of course the issue of making the tax system fairer, and i would like to ask what is the solution of your government in this matter. you see, one of the important discussions is the way some people look at taxes. it is a matter of a policy to earn income, not taxes, a so-called source of income can also be, but what is more important than that. tax is a tool for

policy-making, so that you can direct your priorities, so that you can shape this justice. you can see many policies with legislation and politics. you can do taxation , it's not just to say, for example, that tax is only one thing for the source of income. it is unnecessary to use these , it makes this tax valuable, it may not necessarily be a source of income for you, but it gives order to your market , it gives direction to the goals you have defined for the economy, that is , it can bring you to your goal and the justice that we say. see , one of the things that is sometimes raised about taxes are said to be fine, sir , we will do this. some people say, sir, look, this is putting pressure on the people, no, by the way, taxes, if the policy is done well, will reduce the pressure on those people

and establish justice. how do you see that many people with salaries they pay a little tax, then those with an astronomical income don't pay tax, so that you have a serious mechanism so that no one has tax evasion, after all, in the country, when a worker, an employee with a minimum salary, these are taxed, it is natural that the person who has an income astronomy has different discussions if possible, he should pay taxes and pay his share and prevent him from tax evasion . the powerful government is able to fairly from all those who have incomes, especially those who now sometimes enter into a syrian transaction. it is very important that this work should be done, so what came in the 7th plan is an accurate discussion because this discussion was even until recently, it was

only 10% that was said of the gross national product, this should be the income of the 10 let it be the average tax revenues of some countries, that is, other countries it has been checked that even 14 years, which is defined here as 10% , in order to be able to do this in the best way , let's go to the issue of housing in the 7th plan , based on the 7th plan, the index of access to housing is considered until the end of the 7 and a half year program. now, the definition of the index access to housing also indicates the number of years needed to buy a house , provided that the total income of the household is used for the purchase. housing should be allocated and i would like to ask if your government's solution to realize this issue is in the program . anyway, housing is one of the main issues of our country. let me explain a little about this. it is important to see. i was just today in birjand, south khorasan province , i left in the evening and came back at night, and

here i am thanking the people of south khorasan for the hospitality they have given me , that is, as far as i went, we have a shortage problem in our country. we don't have land, we are a vast land, there is no shortage of land, what is the problem , monopoly is the ground of discrimination in land, this is very important , the discussion is that one of those things that is very important, again, in the seventh program , alhamdulillah, there was a good resolution in the parliament, which is also final. and it was approved that we are 2/10 percent of the area of ​​the country was allowed to be added to the residential area, either in the city or in the countryside. in my opinion, this is a very valuable opportunity that was planned for in the 7th program, the introduction

was drawn up and approved. this means that two-tenths percent of the so-called area of ​​the country is added to that residential area, which means that something close to 30 thousand hectares can be available for building housing, so we do not have the problem of land, alhamdulillah, with this provision that you have made in the seventh plan. you can use this well for this issue . now, let 's use an analogy, this 300,000 hectares is about 13 times. the area of ​​one of the relatively large cities of the country is a very good opportunity, but the important thing is to see that the issue of housing is only for the country. this should be looked at in a one-dimensional way, in the sense that when you provide housing for a new person, the question is what will happen to his employment, then what is the relationship between this provision of housing and this need for employment in the country's economy, so you should consider this. the issue is not just

to say where is the demand now, do they need housing, for example, let's go to them, for example, here is this housing , not beyond this, we have to see what is beyond this , in relation to this housing provision and provision. housing with let's look at the issue of land development and the macroeconomics of the country . again, one of the other good opportunities that the 74th government has is that, in addition to being the same as the start of the 7th plan, it is also the same time as the policies announced by the supreme leader regarding the sea-based economy, for example, if we now have the seventh plan that we must have in sea-oriented policies, that the share we currently have from the sea, for example 2%, must reach 10% . well, this is another big task, that is, an economic view based on land use. using the capacity of the sea, which we have a very good number, for example 4900

kilometers, for example, we have a coastline in the south, which with the north and south is approximately 5800 kilometers, so this is a big number . which are similar to us , they are using almost several times as much as we are, for example , some countries use 46 of them from the sea and 36 of their jobs are done through the sea . and with the seventh program, i want to look at it tell me, when it can get results, there is a time when we say, sir, let's just come and get a house for someone , now this house will only be used for this , he has a job, he doesn't have a job, this is in the country's economy or not, we should have nothing more to do with him, just for example now, then, i will tell you the second time. now , for example, let's build a dormitory, let's go

. no, you are really creating a place of peace for this. next to what, next to that, the purpose of your land, that is, next to that in many places that are next to it at that time. the rest of the subjects of your goals will be provided. this is one dimension and another dimension housing should be considered. yes, housing is not just a dormitory, it is a living environment , and it is accompanied by a series of cultural and social debates . now, for example, one of the debates that is being raised in housing is that, for example, you can see in your calculations, what is more important is how much mr. how much was the cost, how much was the time, these are few debates, if in real estate, finally, an important debate is that of architecture and quality debates, which means that the feeling of the space is the memory of the space. the belonging of the space is how the neighbors of these neighborhoods are formed

, and their relationships with each other our people, if we want to provide a peaceful and sheltered environment, we want it to be like this. now , this is a matter of one-minute neighborhoods or cities, which means that you have to form such that he can move from his place of residence to a place within one minute, for example. it's not like they say, well , here is a dormitory for now , it will take a long time to get there, for example, i want to look at the housing, so i want to summarize, because the discussion is now , i will explain this in more detail later. considering that we do not have the problem of lack of land, but sometimes we have the problem of land monopoly and we have some of these problems, and according to the resolution in the 7th plan that allocates two-tenths of the land, when this problem of lack of land is solved, then your hands will be open, especially since the two main aspects of the macroeconomics of land use and

especially if you have social culture, for this matter, then you can do valuable work in this field , god willing. intelligence and of course. e-government emphasized for implementation all of these things that have been seen in the general policies of the 7th plan, what solutions are there in your government? look, at the beginning of our dear martyr's government , mr. raisi , we sent a plan for this matter. it helps you to create your administrative structure by using the same communication technologies that, alhamdulillah , today. day by day, more progress is being made , and more successes are being achieved in this field. now

, for example , they say that the government is intelligent and the government is super-intelligent. it is smart that when you go to the office, your work will be done. it is super smart that the government will go to you based on the existing communication mechanisms and facilities, for example , it will inform you that you can get this loan now. you can do it , you can participate here, which means that not only you will not be delayed in the offices where no one will answer you , but it is the office that will come to you, which we first presented to the government, mr. raisi, and they also gave orders to follow up on this. see, we said this many times in 1992 i also stated in the election that one of the most important priorities is that the government machine should be moving , your administrative executive structure should be agile and fast . this is that you have to

invest and have financial resources, but there is only one, one is the human power that we have, the other is management, you must apply correct management , and the other is technology, as i said, if you pay attention to these four elements, then your productivity will increase. it will also be upgraded for its technology, which today, thank god, has many areas in our country there is good, there are good developments , we have very good human resources, now we need a management that can strengthen this , in the housing sector, you mentioned the issue of sea -based economy, let's go to this issue separately, now it is one of the important axes in the program. seventh, the economy is based on the sea, and for this reason, the proportion of the population of the southern coasts is the basis. my specific question is what is your plan for the development of the beaches, especially makran and of course chabahar

. look, i went there several times and visited almost all those beaches with its people. i said there are many capacities there the fact that i raise a debate in our election slogan , our election slogan is another world of opportunity , one iran, the leap of this world, the opportunity that we say is not a subjective word, it is an objective reality. the ground is our shores, which are called our shores, so these are our shores, there is a world of opportunity in them, this is mokuran, which is called mokuran in the local language. there is a set of marine opportunities, from fisheries and aquaculture discussions, from discussions and many topics related to sea industries, such as flotation, repair, and ships . we have a collection, there is also a very governmental one

, almost by the name of izuiko, whose work is the same. the construction and repair of ships and floats and this is 3 billion dollars. the assets of this group are about 11 thousand hectares, and the infrastructure is very good. with every project we do, with every ship repair or ship construction we do, thousands of jobs will be created if we receive an order. that is, if 50 of them can do it at the same time with the extent of the facilities they have this body itself creates 50,000 jobs , creates jobs, and discussions like this happen to be in the government, what was their goal? by the way , they say that some government departments do not refer us for this work because of the work that we can do, for example. they go and import, they

go and buy, for example, they repair them instead of giving them to us , they give them to other places, for example, the devices like, for example , other places that now, for example, the national oil tanker company , the shipping company, for example, have this flock . there should be such coherence that it is very good, sir, if i have such a possibility now is it possible to create so many jobs in bish, do you work or, for example, one of the examples, i am criticizing this example for a long time, i say, for example, banking, now , for example, about 40,000 vessels pass through the strait of hormuz per year. they are doing this, well, it means that the economy can be used, we are only concerned about our share of this if it can be up to 10 billion dollars, my point is, see if we use these now in the sea , in various industries, whether in fisheries or in what about the maritime industry in other fields that can

be formed by the sea, such as the capacities that we have by the sea we have the sea in terms of oil and gas, and then , depending on the things that are there. i mean, when will we finally reach these locked capacities? i said that if, for example, a country with conditions similar to ours today uses 46% of its economy from the sea and 36% of its employment is provided from the sea, well, we have a very rare opportunity and this should be done, then, for example , you will see the same disgusting questions when you go there. people are ready for fishing. for agriculture, for farms, now related to fisheries and different things, and now this can be developed in industries transformation means that it should not be only sid, now it should be transformation industries, i know, it should be canning , what else should i do, well, it needs work and it needs a program, for which we presented a series of discussions

. i went all the way down, now there is something more interesting, for example, there is a dish. for example, the so-called martian mountains that are there are very attractive , even for artistic works to make movies and so on , that is, it is a set of facilities . people there are ready to cooperate, one of the serious discussions that we are following. come on, on this basis, we made our slogan that one world, one opportunity, one iran, his leap , what is the need for this? it is necessary that you have to play the role of people. that is why we continued to say that every iranian is a glorious role. it means the people who are there or the people who have this preparation to work in these fields. the government should be a role-playing government. let him come and play a role here.

according to the people's talent and ability, they have a bed role playing. they provide about the same people that you talked about, dr. jalili, let's talk about the popularization of the economy in the 7th plan, which mentions that the executive bodies are obliged to hand over all their shares in the companies gradually by the end of the second year of this law at the latest. the issue of increasing the role of people in the economy is your plan to realize this issue. this is one of the most important issues, especially since we have at least one experience. for the past 10 years, we have had a very good discussion, our discussion is that if you, sir , the government should not have companies, if there are companies in he has the authority, he should leave it to the people , the people at that time. say, participate in it and improve it, make more use of it, let my government be able to have its own supervisory role

, not its executive role. this was brought up and i went to check it in person. we had cases where some actions were taken in this name but were unsuccessful, such as hebko, haft depe sugar cane, tabriz machine building, and many other cases that have existed. why was this unsuccessful? this is another question. well, wasn't it supposed to be popularization because it was not done in the right way , what does it mean for the government to give this money to the people to own a company? body. i remember one of the bitter memories we had was that, for example, in hebco , the workers used to say, sir, we were producing here in 1986 , when it was still a government, for example, in the year

1800 , we were producing heavy machinery, for example, road construction, etc., after it is called privatization, for example, from 8 to 1800 for as long as i can remember, there was a labor crisis and the workers came with interest and said , "oh my god, this person who did this job only had money, i just didn't have enough money . " giving some of these things at a special price , my argument is that popularization is one of the factors of improving these things , it is the benefit of improving their productivity, but if it is implemented properly, what is the truth about it, is that you are the one who does this. he wants to have a family. i recently went. recently, i went a few months ago lorestan province, darood, i saw there that in darood city, for example, a persian factory with the same

name was handed over. after it was handed over, the person who bought the majority of the shares, for example , went to prison, became something else, then the factory that had 1,200 workers, only 4. until the guard had it, i went to visit and my film was published, so this must be wrong. i would like to say that one of the most important debates in the popularization of that implementation is that again, i say that the president must be noble and know that it is not enough to just have a right policy and just a right program. you have to see how it was implemented. his approval and the things he is going through, the path he is going through , did he reach the goal of that matter or not? because what was the purpose of popularization? what was the purpose of improving productivity? that the government should become smaller, not that the problems of the government will increase after a while, so i believe that this is definitely one of the very good discussions, but on the condition that it is implemented properly, the qualifications should be paid attention to, the people should be paid attention

to . sir, if they had left this to us, we would not have allowed it to happen, and one of the things that was very interesting to me was that the workers for example, hebko, when they come implicitly and now raise their own problems, we are heartbroken that a country's capital, for example, from 1,800 machines per year, has reached 8 years, and again, i say, may god have mercy on our dear martyr, mr. raisi, who with the door at the beginning of the government's change , the same hebko that i went to visit a few months ago, fortunately, it had reached 800 units a year, and then they said that in 1403, which would be this year, god willing, it will reach 1600 again. do many things with strength and power in a way mr. jalili , let's go to the energy department of the 7th plan, which

mentions the quantitative and qualitative increase in the production of various types of energy carriers in addition to the issue of reducing energy consumption, and of course , the full implementation of resource optimization plans is necessary, where do the resources come from? it will be possible to see how his highness's solutions for the implementation of this issue are defined. i did serious studies this year . he said that the embargo on the purchase of iranian oil no one bought oil from iran, but alhamdulillah , it was unsuccessful in the government of mr. raisi, and this issue was pursued with power. now you have seen. recently , the us senate protested to its foreign minister that we were supposed to not sell a barrel of oil to iran, and now they are saying 2. it sells millions , of course, now we don't sell 2 million, but whatever capacity we have and we want to sell

, we can sell more than half a million. why should we sell oil at all? who buy oil from us, what do they do , they turn this oil into products , they sell it to us or to other places, at several times the price. there is an expert and a young expert in this field , today he must turn his oil into products, first and then turn it into our downstream petrochemical industry , now only in the region around us , the downstream petrochemical industry market is 135 billion dollars two minutes at the same time, that is, if we if we use it in the best way, then we can be successful not only to stop selling oil, but also to buy oil and turn it into products, and this is also to have more employment

and to have a supply. one of the discussions that is very important is to see why people now , when the market is hot it is possible, for example, that some of their capital goes to the coin market, one goes to width, one goes to i don't know, some goods, one goes to housing. gasoline if, for example, with a capacity of 400 barrels, that is, if if you have 5 of these, you won't even need to sell oil, it will turn it into a product, but what's the secret, get the people involved , let the people participate in this, people are willing to invest the same capital they will go there, if they know that in the energy industry, the relative position of our country will come and this way it can be many times beneficial for the country and provide employment for their children.

this is one of the important discussions that people should be involved in. also, regarding energy consumption, i believe that if consumption management let's give the people and make the people participate in the management of consumption . again, this will have good effects . our one plan is completely based on what i presented before . now i will explain it again in other meetings . thank you very much, mr. dr. jalili, for your presence in the interview studio. vizhi news as we mentioned. in tonight's conversation, we answered dr. saeed jalili , we were one of the six candidates of the 14th presidential election. thank you for accompanying us tonight, as in previous nights .

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to do something for the people and send the number 8 to 123 39 in the name of allah , the most merciful, the most merciful. greetings to you, dear viewers, at 5:00 pm , we are at your service with some news. 87 construction projects and services today with the presence of the president in the province of khorasan, razavi was put into operation in the form of video conferencing. today , the implementation of 22 projects has started in this province . these projects cost 142 thousand billion tomans , including 23 projects of the ministry of health. today we have 23 projects