what is their way? controversy is not good. they should sit face to face and plan their work so that people can make the best choice. mehdi anari, radio and television news agency. in the name of allah, the most merciful, the most merciful, in the name of god , the most merciful, the most merciful, my dear compatriots, the viewers of the national media , the khabar network, hello, welcome to the special news talk tonight, 13 days remain until the 14th presidential election, the future president of the country is a person who must implement the law of the program. seventh, the leader of the islamic revolution in his nowruz speech this year emphasized to the public that

at the end of the deadline for the implementation of this program with the aim of economic prosperity along with justice, while the inflation rate is in the single digits, fundamental reforms in the budget structure should be carried out. most of the items of the seventh plan bill were approved by the guardian council after several stages of going back and forth between the parliament and the guardian council. the guardian council needs to be reformed, but with the insistence of the islamic council to approve these matters, the bill of the seventh program is now awaiting final approval by the expediency council, tonight in a special news interview of the hojat al-islam wal-muslimin meizman, mr. mustafa pourmohammadi, another of the six candidates of the 14th the period we are in the presidential election.

thank you very much for watching tonight's special news talk. as i mentioned, mr. mostafa pourmohammadi is with us in the studio . and i have a good evening. i am happy to be in your presence, honorable people. god willing , we will have a good, intimate, convincing and informative conversation. i am at your service, god willing, as in the previous nights, and of course, what we mentioned in the introduction , we will start from the seventh program. year.

mr. pomohammadi, which programs have been approved and formulated in the country , please tell me which programs you had a role in developing and approving, and how useful do you think the model of the five-year plan is for the country? in the name of god . yes , i think it was the second program among the six programs that have been compiled so far. and fourth and fifth. and sixth, i was involved in the first, third, and seventh plans. of course , i was no longer involved in drafting the consultations and work of the plan, but i was present in the three and four plans that i mentioned, and see how useful the model of the 5-year plan is for the country. the problem we have now in the 5-year plan

and in general, in the country's planning system , the supreme leader of the revolution mentioned in one of his speeches that the reports indicate that , for example, between 305 percent of the programs have been implemented, even for example, they estimate that the sixth program is below 30 percent. i myself, that the organization . and we prepared a report , we optimistically estimated around 42-43, while other institutions and other institutions estimated between 37 and 323. well, it is a serious issue that the plan is to be implemented, why is it like this? they are not idols

, they don't care, they don't pay attention to the program, just normal tasks or they are pursuing their own goals and policies , maybe another assumption. we have to raise another thing , and that is that maybe there is a problem with our planning system, that we faced these successive failures, and then we should think about it. well, you see , the program has a series of accessories, it has requirements , those requirements must be provided, it must be realistic. the conditions and framework for the implementation of the program should be provided. both material tools, human tools, and social capacities, give us the possibility to realize the plan. external conditions that can affect the program , we must pay attention to them. and with attention

let's leave our program to them. sometimes unexpected events happen. for example, there is an earthquake. it slaps. a war breaks out, now in the country or abroad in the region, and this all affects the plans. usually, in the planning systems , they predict and design different scenarios, so that if the conditions are different, the appropriate risk plan is considered. it has been taken and its decrease or increase can be tracked with a reasonable percentage. usually , these issues are not given much attention in our planning. well, this is one of the issues that i think we should think about a lot. let's face it, one of the other issues is that now in the world , 5-year and 10-year plans

are obsolete to some extent. they set 5 goals, then the program must be adjusted according to the budget, because it has to be small, usually they adjust it for 2 years or one year. yes, because the general rules, which have nothing to do with the program , have their own special rules, the program wants to be implemented and that in the contemporary world, the speed of changes is very high , it is not like you can predict what will happen in 10 years, what will happen in 5 years, that is , we are faced with events that are happening in the world quickly, and all relationships are falling apart, and almost the planning system the world understands this

meaning, for this reason , it adjusts the program and the schedule of the programs on the basis of one year . now, another problem that exists in our country is that we write the 5-year plan by one team, one government, one parliament. it is adjusted and then it goes , for example, with the general policies in the recognition assembly it is given that the guardian council approves the stage of the law, as you mentioned , now there are disputed cases, the insistence of the parliament has gone to the resolution assembly, so now, fortunately , there is a stage where we have a reconciliation and approval, which we are now dealing with. the program was written by someone else, that is, another parliament and another government, the government of my dear brother shahid raisi, may god's mercy be upon him, and his colleagues, worked

hard to compile this program and give it to the parliament . another government approved the government let's give a new one. well, the government is a poet. it is new and the candidates have different slogans, and then people prefer one slogan to a middle priority and vote for this man. this candidate wins . sometimes this candidate's slogans are not accurate at all. how do you respond to people's expectations? because these calculations must be budgeted and scheduled in the program, but he promised to execute the program after the legal plan. well, this creates problems for implementation in the implementation planning system , and we are now facing this program system.

the arrangement that we have created is creating serious problems for us. and now, interestingly, in this same program , i saw that we have a supplementary material in the program, which i will mention now. it is included in the program. your service is the seventh and it says that the additional article 35 of the same program says that the government is obliged to take the necessary measures regarding the following matters within one year at the latest after the entry into force of this law. give me time, there are 25 titles, i will read a few of them, the program

for equipping financial resources to realize the 8% growth of the program resolving macroeconomic imbalances , the 25% non-fatty export growth requirements program, the program for strengthening and promoting the knowledge-based economy , the microfinance system program, the realization of tax justice, the promotion program. the social justice indicators are behind me until 25. well, that's all the plan . nothing has been determined. until one year from now, the government of any government , the previous government or the new government, will bring these to be approved . the basis of the program is that we transferred everything to another time , after this program, we did not have a program for 2 years, two or three it will take a year for this program to be prepared, so the program that has been prepared for two or three years and the government

is carrying out the continuation of the previous plan with a lack of planning , from my side we say that it has not been realized, then i will give another program to another parliament, another government it should be implemented. well, apparently, the reason for the non-fulfillment of the lights, we should not look far away, why it has not been fulfilled. well, this program is screaming that it cannot be implemented, right. we have to think that we cannot only hold the managers responsible, hold the experts responsible, and hold the government officials responsible for the program. you don't implement it, you are not regular , you are not disciplined to the program, we cannot claim that the same program that has been written now has taken so much pains , your excellency also mentioned that it went to the guardian council and did not approve it. that my dear brother , mr. raisi shahid aziz, pointed out that

there was a lot of manipulation in this program, this program that we gave is not a program that is being approved by the parliament, that is, even our previous government, if it wanted to continue its life and implement the program he himself suggested that there are many changes in this program it is given and it is not applicable to me with these many changes. these are structures in the planning system. and this weakens the infrastructure of the implementation of the regulations in the country and makes it difficult for our prospects in the system of planning and scheduling their implementation . we send a negative message and i think we are right. we don't want to send a negative message to the society with this style of planning. we have to adjust our plans carefully and then say, alhamdulillah

, we executed 90, 80, but 12,005 more than the plan. because when the program is well organized, it can be implemented , it can be scheduled, it can be implemented, and it instills a positive feeling in the society, and i think that this is a serious problem that we are facing now. . i just said what should we do about article 35 of the annexes, 25 important titles of the program have been referred to be adjusted in another year, so they are not in the program. you did the analysis of the non-implementation of the programs completely, now the third program you mentioned that the state accounts court has given the statistics of the 6th plan, which has been implemented by about 30%. this year is the first year of implementation of the 7th plan

, it is the first year of the 14th government, and the first year of the 12th parliament, first of all, i would like to ask what is the position of the 7th plan in your future government, and since you mentioned the pathology, what solutions did you foresee for the full implementation of the 7th plan? see , i said that we must abide by the law. if something becomes a law, we have no right to violate it. this is a principle. if there is a problem, we must fix it legally. mirror. that we will be forced to give some amendments, now that article 35 of the addendum that i said, for example, he himself made a serious reference to give the government a plan, this has opened our hand, this is a weakness of the plan, but it will benefit the executives, as the legislator's plan itself pointed out that mr. we give it to you so that, for example, you can go check it out and make your suggestions. i

think we should prepare all the materials related to the implementation of the program, and we will do this. we will govern the discipline of the program, which means we will instill it in the system. we will emphasize the necessary discipline in implementing the program. i am the person of the program i am very strict in the program. all the devices that i was in, i always had a serious book account , we gave scores, we had many judging boards to control the implementation of the program, and i believe that now if there are other occasions, i will explain. but apparently, even though we are in the program. we are facing, we will be forced to give corrections to the program, and of course, in the future, i hope that we will move in the direction of detailed operational planning and better calculation and monitoring control. it is an infrastructural movement

. let's do god willing, both in the general policies , the main priority and the main focus of the 7th plan is on the issue of economic progress along with justice , the economic growth rate is 8%, and of course, the issue that is emphasized is the increase in the productivity of the future government of his highness, what are the solutions to achieve these things? you can see that one of the problems we have in the economy is economic stability. first of all, we have to define our macro and fixed policies , that is, say, for example, about inflation, land rate, liquidity, tariffs that we want to put in place, support that we want from the capital market, these are our duties. let's clarify if our duty

is not clear about these or the exchange rate, let's say 10 years. at some point, we say no, we have to decide, but how do we decide, until we press somewhere, we control it, then somewhere it slips out of our hands, the spring is released and it rises quickly, then we try again , we hold it at a certain point. stability is one of the serious crises in any field, especially the economy, which is extremely important in this regard. he accepts, well, we have macro policies regarding this matter, and the other point is government spending, which means that if your government becomes expensive, you will not be able to adjust a significant economic program.

keep in mind that sometimes there are policies that are funded by the government. it happens and you face a deficit. for example , the reports given by the planning organization are between 600 and 700 billion tomans. this number is a very large number. we are facing a deficit due to the government budget. and it will distort our macroeconomic policy, so see, one is the rial currency policy. one is the government expenses and the other is inflation. these are the macro policies. these should be defined so that we can achieve the goals of the program. well, another point is in the middle layers, we have to guarantee the removal of obstacles from the stations, you can't do it with the obstacles that

unfortunately are at the head of many of our economic, industrial and production stations. for example, you are optimistic. now , in the last two or three years, with the openings that have been created in oil and other measures, a little bit of this number

will be injected into the country's budget. you predict that if we act well , we will adjust all the factors of our macro policies, our middle policies, and our food policy. to have executive coordination in good execution . we can meet half of 50% of this requirement for example, to provide 100 billion euros from our own internal resources. but we still have to provide 50% of 100 billion euros from foreign sources. all successful economies after the second world war have shown that their economic growth is attracting

international capital, different markets, different people , different companies, attracting attractiveness , creating that capital, attracting themselves, generating suitable profits for investors, giving economic prosperity. giving employment and other benefits to their society , how do we want this hundred billion dollars or 100 billion euros? let's ensure that what is the basis of our calculation, which is now one of the additions to article 35 of morality, one of its articles, in the program, you must say what the model is and the policies. well, one of the problems of foreign relations is sanctions, one of its main indications is that it is an obstacle. this transfer and attraction of foreign capitals, even we iranian capital outside my country, it will be difficult for us to attract them according to the sanctions that have been done

. now, i saw in the program that we can attract about 10 billion euros annually. this investment of 10 billion is practically not responsive to the growth needs of 88. how do we want to solve this disproportion, and this work is very difficult and complicated. see, the plan is not a place to express goals, ideals, and wishes . the plan must be done completely realistically . there is another point in this realization of the growth rate. we are here. what is our zero number in the program , what is our status now, for example, the sixth program is over, where are we now. how are statistics, tables, graphs, what dictates us? well, who can't we come up with a program and then say

no, sir, we were on the 6th step, let's argue again , say no, sir, we were on the 4th step, now i'm in the discussion. the tax has been taxed, i want to tell you the numbers, what kind of discussion, well, the fight will start here, sir, we now want to implement the program , let's create a rate of 88, for example, then tell us what our bases and basic numbers are. and then the statistics are clear and compatible with each other and confirmed, not that there are still conflicting statistics , we have sources that provide conflicting statistics, so in order to realize this program and the goals that are in this program, we have to examine the issue from different angles, i think. that our most important issue is discipline. there is macro politics , let's clear it ourselves, create economic stability, now i am in the sector i will explain this in more detail. one of the

important issues that is decisive now is beyond economic policies and is very decisive in the success of the program and the implementation of the trust program of the active sector, whether large or small, of large companies. middle, medium, small , trust our policies, trust the executives, i.e. the government, the government trust them , have positive interaction and trust, people trust the government's policies, when they say, sir, go to the stock market , it is booming, people will go to the stock market and see. it was profitable for a while, then it stopped. this lack of trust disrupts our activity system and economic stability in our time, the same investor wants to go to

the bank and tells me how much. let me tell you how much profit you make. it's a number. after a while, the number will change. you can see that these policies intensify distrust between the government and economic activists, and between the government and the people, because the economy requires everyone's participation. if everyone joins in, the economy can it will achieve its goal, but if people become distrustful , they will leave their money at home, convert it into dollars and convert it into three. they turn it into other price objects, they can't go to the car market, they throw it in the car, i don't know , now the property was always positive at one time, but you there or similar products are dumped there, you see, these are our problems, this capital is not produced in the market , it does not enter the economic circulation, it takes capital , it sleeps in a corner because it does not know in which market

it will be profitable for it. the best policy and program without unsuccessful and unsuccessful trust building. i will focus all my efforts on this issue . i had many discussions with economists. of course, i have already, as my son-in-law's children and close relatives, and they all studied economics at sharif university, tehran university, and other places. the series in the house has many economic discussions. i read the statistics continuously i am studying economics. now that i have not been in the government for several years, i am no longer involved in microeconomics, but i am following up on macroeconomics. for the past few days , we have been sitting from early in the morning until late at your time , and we are negotiating with various prominent economists on how to build that trust in the society. let's create it , we can take our steps slowly with confidence . we have a series

of fixed principles in your case, that is, we have a consensus , we do not have a dispute , we will focus on them , we will build our foundations on them, but after building trust, it is possible to grow and realize. the goals of the program will be realized for us, god willing , we have about 17 to 18 minutes . please also provide time management in the program, because you mentioned the stability of the economy. and of course, the land rate, i will address what is emphasized in the general policies and of course in the 7th plan, i.e. establishing stability in the general level of prices, single-digit inflation and the issue of exchange rate. you see, in the previous section, because it is connected, i explained your second question to some extent . we can

determine that we will definitely pursue stability economic or financial stability, now the term used by technical experts, we can create this, then we can have a stability or even a floating rate on the land price, or if we want the government to set a rate , we can face a guaranteed stability, and then among the problems now, the imbalance of the banks, which is now a serious issue, we should discuss the imbalance of the banks and the cause of the imbalance of the banks, which is now one of the determining factors in inflation, and the other point is the cost of the government, which is the cost of the government, the cost is constantly increasing. itself leads to

you can see the swelling, this must be controlled. i am determined i want to control this and of course it is a very difficult condition. i don't want to promise our noble nation. our people now distrusted our promises to a great extent. i will focus all my efforts with the best economic teams in the country . to open the market as much as possible. let us stabilize this unbridled inflation rate to some extent . you raised in price stability and

we will succeed to a large extent, but this is nothing.