in recent days, there have been reports of rains in various areas of mazandaran, northern cities, which led to floods, and there were also damages. today's weather report also indicates that we will have floods in the coming days. we want to talk about the importance of watershed management and its effect on areas where we saw little damage even despite the floods. if you are interested , stay with us until the end of this discussion and follow us on khabar , thank you. you are with us for a half-day conversation. as i told you, we want to talk about watershed management. it happened in the northern regions, it was in the parts where we saw even less damage, despite the fact that

we saw that the damage was much higher in some places , we want to talk about watershed management and see what its objective effects are, where it was implemented, how effective was it, how much was it able to control the damage. how fast were the responsible organizations that had to carry out the watershed work in those 8,000 villages , or perhaps why did they do it ? about the watershed management of those devices we talked about what should be done and... more importantly , about the participation of the private sector and the people, what incentives were supposed to be given and what happened. guests of the program, let's start, i invite all of you to go and see each other for a report , get to know each other a little better, go back to space , we will start our conversation at around 8:30, an hour and a half. the load of 25 cubic meters of flood water

was sent from zare meser along with the glue. passing by the restaurant on his way, he buried 3 people under the bullet he threw a number of cars into the river on challoost road. darband or meser watershed is located in the northern side of rasht, central alborz mountain and 47 km of challouz road. this sub-area with an area that mr. mirdar, the owner of the restaurant , who has witnessed several large floods in recent years, is due to the non-implementation of watershed management despite the approval of

the supply council of mazandaran province. whenever there is a flood, the water will be less, the flood will be less gentle, people can escape or save their property or their life in danger, chief. the department of natural resources and water management of chalros says that for many years, the necessary warning for water management in critical areas has been given, and for its implementation, a water management movement must be created. we found these watershed points and we have to do the same watershed for these biological discussions, but unfortunately the credit does not come. in november of last year , it rained four times as much as the recent flood in the kazem river watershed in the same province, but people's lives and property were spared due to the implementation of watershed management. this sealband was very good. if not, the villages would really disappear. 32 mm in abghiz area of ​​darban

it rained, rainfall equivalent to one million cubic meters. this rain entered the challost river and then the caspian sea . while with water management measures, 80% of these rains penetrated the soil and prevented up to 70% of flood damage. heratian news agency . yes, we saw the report of my colleague mrs. haratian together, we said here in the studio. let 's start with this flood in the west of mazandaran . what was the cause of the flood? yes, in the name of allah , the most merciful, the most merciful. look, in any case, now we are dealing with a series of limited flows. we are a country where it is possible that at some

point it will finally rain with high intensity and in a very small distance or area . we had one of these cases that happened in mazandaran province , i think it was about 32 mm of rain in about half an hour . and if we want to make it easier for the viewers , how much is 32 mm of rain for half an hour? within an hour and a half, 32, yes, 32 millimeters of rain occurred for an hour and a half , and a lot of rain happened here . the area of ​​the area is a small area of ​​about 3150 hectares

. the total area of ​​the area where the flood occurred is 305 hectares. the runoff that occurred due to the amount of rainfall that occurred there caused damage, perhaps one of the reasons was that firstly, the amount of rainfall and the intensity of the rainfall was very high. that the exit of this area that led to the lower valley there was a bridge where it was practically impossible to get this flow out of the area. it was not possible. well, all these things caused the rain to flow smoothly with mud or mud, and the bridge's mouth was blocked. finally, what led to this damage that was caused in the region, of course , only in the same valley , there was none of the reasons that you mentioned, the watershed, it was not implemented in this area , it was not done in this area, but it was done in the neighboring areas. there was a watershed that, as a rule,

caused less damage to it, much less damage that led to it if the flood has become severe, it was practically not in the area of ​​the game that we played, only somewhere or a point at this level, of course. he had entered , it was the same spot that was next to that area, next to the restaurant, that gate , advice to the gate, unfortunately, it had happened in my previous years, so regardless of the reasons you mentioned, that step or the restaurants that he occupied, it is important for you to be present. the most important reason that can be mentioned is the non-implementation of the watershed operation, one of the reasons could be this. millimeters of rainfall. rainfall, but well, throughout the year. all of a sudden, there is a heavy downpour, 32 mm of rain according to the statistics of the national meteorological organization in an hour and a half. well, the intensity is very, very high. in fact, if it is in a critical area, it is a critical area. in fact, a flood means that water from the bed if the river comes out, if

it is not possible for the water to move in the direction of the river and continue its hydrological cycle, it usually turns into a weapon and damage is caused by this set of physical factors . it was taken into account, including the bridge including now the occupations that have taken place in the area, and sometimes it is about 700,800 hectares, we have a rocky outcrop above this area, which means that there are practically no diapers, as a rule , a series of mechanical works had to be done on the bed of the river, in addition to the management works that are there. it was done , but unfortunately this happened and this damage was done at that time in the same area that we are talking about . now there are no injuries in other areas they are also similar to these areas, usually we have done drainage works to prevent more than 70% of the silage damage, that is, we were able to analyze 70% of that silage damage, and actually, because we have watershed operations, especially mechanical operations in

the first stage, it prevents the speed limit of the flood. it means that the intensity that it brings at the beginning will usually take the peak of the river flow and the water will be slower or with a slower flow. evacuate the mesh from the area with a slower speed, which will lead to the fact that we will not have collateral damage in this area, so if we want to review it again. let's say that the factors that you mentioned at the beginning of your statement were approximately 30% of the cause of the damage and accident that we witnessed, 70% of which is due to the fact that watershed management has not been done in the area we are talking about. in such a region, such a rainfall may occur, and since we did not operate a watershed here, we may witness such damage . of course, there is a watershed, so it does flood management, but i have to say that there are practically no flood warnings in these areas. if this is the leader now the issue is because in this area , we had floods years ago. i will give you an example

. there are no flood warning systems, especially in these areas, where there is a possibility of floods of this magnitude. if we can, warning stations. if we plan the flood, we can easily prevent the damages of minimum financial and life damages that usually happen in these areas. another point is that in the past years, we are now a few kilometers ahead of this area, which is now below the area where the flood happened. it had happened, well, we had such a crisis, we had a crisis with the road department's participation, of course, with the participation of the road department, the watershed work was carried out in that area, and it has been several years since the crisis in that area , which was ahead of this area, now nothing special is happening, with a very high confidence factor of the watershed project in this logic was implemented and practically now there is a possibility that either prevents the damage which is usually limited rains or high speed rains with high intensity in the area where there is a possibility of rain. how much investment is required to

carry out watershed operations for such an area as we are talking about? now, the side points that you mentioned , i want to take a ratio between the damage that we witnessed now , if you have that estimate, if you have one, can you tell us, and to take a ratio between the investment that we could have made for an operation such as a watershed that would prevent this. the damage we are talking about, the evaluation we did in different regions of the country shows that no matter how much we invest in different sectors related to resources and watershed management , it can be more than 4.7 times, 4 to 4.5 to 4.7 times. be profitable in terms of values both market and non-market that can cover the water and soil resources of this country, of course, watershed management is a work project that does not involve a lot of money. obviously , i don't have the amount of financial loss in the area, no, i don't have it, in proportion to the benefits that will be created. it is possible for the lands or for that watershed, economically, socially

, ecostem, and ecologically, the amount of money we spend in this area is very, very small , something like 56 million tomans per hectare. tomans per hectare per hundred compared to that the effects that it has are not very many . this has been provided to places like the governorate of crisis management , or is it in your own plans? yes, you see , we have researched soil science and watershed management, and researched that it is related to the ministry of agriculture, we are also part of the ministry of agriculture, and we have a close relationship. i am at your service for executive and research . there are films between two devices. the sirkhiz atlas of the country was prepared in the sarkhiz atlas of the country . there are critical areas. atlas prepared.

it has started, it will end in a two-year horizon , god willing, and whether the preventive plans you have for flood control are based on the same atlas or not, it is different. the watershed plans to be carried out can be seen in the form of prioritization that is being done. now in the country, if we want to include these cases, based on the atlas that has been presented , our watersheds are approx. 44 let me tell you that there are 42 million hectares of areas without hundreds, about 84 million

in addition to these, there are about 40 million hectares in the urban area, as well as urban and rural areas. well , it is of great importance. practically, we have to deal with the critical areas of 28 million hectares. unfortunately, a large amount of this water and soil is out of the country. it is possible to come to a large area, more than 25 million hectares of area. the border areas of marzimone area , well, as a rule, the planning of implementation models in each of these areas are different from each other , which should be the schedule that is carried out and the plans that are made by the ministry of environment and tourism. if there is agriculture, god willing, we are doing it so that we can reach a good result. thank you . well, since we are talking about flood and watershed management , mr. khazaei, the general director of natural resources of west mazandaran watershed management , was also added to our group online. i think they are also with the watershed project. hello, mr. khazaei. please tell me which region you are in and

how much the implementation of the watershed project could help the area we are talking about to control and reduce the damage caused by floods. i also say hello to his excellency and good viewers also, mr. dr. vahid, who is about to attend that studio, thank you for your good explanations. this project that you are looking at is the project of the korkud-ser river dam project , which actually started in 1308 during the government week and was completed on 22 bahman. this project has caused a huge part of the tributaries that come from above a 600-hectare area and are transported after the flood, and may actually destroy many technical buildings and even threaten people's lives and property. it happened that

he brought a truck in front of him to take the soil and some of the sediments in the downstream, like the flood that happened in the darband region, it actually deposits sediment behind itself and we can remove it again. this project is one of the flagship projects whose effectiveness is completely clear and the downstream people are fully satisfied . 2006 even leading to death. four people became our dear compatriots, after the implementation of that project, we did not have any death or destruction in the downstream and even the people they were satisfied with the implementation of this project. the projects of the high branching levels are the projects that are actually being implemented in our country and it was the result of the efforts of our experts and the design of our good experts. because

it is an internal project, we have 34 rivers in the west of mazandaran province, which we have studied these rivers and we have implemented such a project in 10 of these rivers, which has made many people in the downstream areas feel at ease after the flood . we are starting one of the projects this year, but the discussion is about communication our communication is online so that we can reconnect with mr. judri. mr. vahid, can you give an explanation about the same projects that mr. judri was referring to? look, i said that the service exists in different ecological areas in the country , in different areas depending on the conditions. well , nature has its limitations, and the physical and ecological conditions of these areas are different. in general , we have biological projects in the watershed, we have biomechanics

, we have mechanical, and management. mazandaran that mr. khazaei. it is done in forested areas because one of the reasons that actually blocks the bridge or the river itself may be a challenge is the amount of silt that comes along with the runoff from the upper reaches of the basin. the jam causes this wood to be taken, the wood to be taken, and a large amount of sediment to be taken, practically water. clean or relatively healthy water should be directed downstream, which practically prevents the possibility of destructive floods, and so to speak , destructive floods. referring to the same area that mr. khazaei mentioned, we had floods, for example , we had rains that led to floods . you have this watershed plan. this operation can prevent it

from coming out because of the river . getting a plan will not be blocked , the roads will not be blocked. the physical factor does not stand in front of the water flow, the water actually goes through its own hydrological cycle and leaves the basin and enters the downstream and the sea, which means that after these projects, we did not have floods there , we did not have any destructive floods, we did not have any destructive floods in however, the difference between a destructive flood and a non-destructive flood of flowing water is that flooding is when the water comes out of the bed of the house and causes damage, but when the flowing water penetrates the underground water table, we have to stop the speed of the flood and cause damage. don't be from the river. the flow of water happens, but these projects are generally implemented in these areas, but the main issue is that we allow water to permeate the field itself, which means that we actually have a function in the form of traveling the earth, yes, the function is in this way, especially in the form of a

spatial and management biological project. which is done in the arena itself our plant cover should be enriched, we should not have drastic changes of use. i would like to tell you about our land occupations in these areas . we should not occupy the bed of the rivers. all these flood factors should not be occupied. these programs that we have in the form of watershed projects are like management, biological , biomechanical, and mechanical . this is the case that we can allow a large amount of rain to penetrate into our underground water table and practically do not cause much damage to the runoff that is created. in these areas that now we were also talking with mr. vahid. in these areas that you mentioned , watershed operations have been carried out. after that , we had heavy rains. will these watershed operations cause us to not have destructive floods, according to mr. vahid? yes , last year, we

had a very extensive flood in novushehr region and even in kazem region today. according to the report of hazrat ali and your friends, the amount of rainfall was more than 120 mm in kazem river region, but the presence of this level caused the clock to go haywire. that we don't have any financial or physical damage downstream and even we have about 400 tons of sediment behind this hundred loudmouth in the kazem river area , it sat behind this dam along with many pieces of broken timber that was inside the forest and we were able to remove it later . we can name another positive effect for it, for example, in the field of drinking , i don't know about agriculture, see the whole operation of watershed is divided into three parts. our main goal is the infiltration of water into underground water tables , the main goal of aquifers is this, after that

, biomechanical or various mechanical works. it is biological and finally we have to go to the treatment and the same mechanical work because some of our aphthous areas in the downstream have unfortunately undergone changes and even the main bed of the rivers has undergone transformation, so we go directly to the mechanical operation and with this in fact, we can protect people's lives and property in the downstream, but the main goal is actually to store precipitation in the upstream, in the watershed area , or the dam, we did not have any change of use or construction, but 32 mm of rain in a period of half an hour caused the volume of sediments and sediments to be such that at the bottom also because of the impossibility of going out to the main river. unfortunately, the unfortunate events will make all the loved ones realize what happened. yes, mr. khazai, please tell

the viewers how much it will cost to implement such a project in the area where you are, and tell me how many other plans you have for watershed management. is it a delay in spending or does it need other work that is capital or does it need other work to move the business forward? in order to calculate the amount of credit required, this is the annual rate , because based on it, the price list that is announced, we can say, for example, in the kazem area, this project was built in 2086 with 600 million. even today, if we want to implement such a project , we need 20 to 25 billion tomans of credit in the region. we have because the amount of water in that 305 area is so much that we have to take protective measures for this

headwater dam. thank you very much for being there and participating in this conversation mr. vahid, let's go to the rest of the question from the west of mazandaran and take a distance . this is the issue of watershed in their 190 million hectares . it is very big, it is very big, so we can plan both in the implementation department and in the studies department and after the implementation, which, god willing, we will be able to do. now, fortunately, we in the

natural resources organization have more than 20 million hectares of watershed studies so far, which means they are ready for implementation. we have at the same time, even if we can implement these , studies will also be conducted, so that we can manage the rest, depending on the levels. as you can see, the first plan that was presented was that in any case, we in the natural resources organization in the ministry of jahad agriculture have both the executive power and the scientific power so that we can complete this issue at least within two days of the plan. based on the requirements of the country and the financial conditions that we have in various programs at the country level, we can consider, well, in the 7th development plan , it finally reached 20 million hectares, but there is this ability in the regional organization that how much capital the whole 90 million hectares requires, i can't get the exact number right now, but this is 20

million hectares. the main thing is that floods happen all over the country, and also, well, we have erosion, we have sediment , we have runoff, and we have damage. now, unfortunately, we are facing soil erosion in the country, which is much more important than the issue of water, because after all, it is much more difficult to restore the soil by recycling it. centimeter maybe more than 100 years it takes time to produce about 15, 15 and 14 tenths of tons per hectare per year.

the confusions that exist in the watersheds , my confusion is managerial, for example, yes, now there is both management and executive in different departments , there is no management fragmentation in the watersheds, please note that in a watersheds, if we want to calculate with a model to manage it properly so that the product of the watershed, which is water , produces healthy water, we should practically have the same consistency in the government's management plan, and we should also have the participation of the people in these areas.

of course. people's participation means that we can make the people share in the benefits of the watershed because you are talking about the management of the watershed. there are a few custodians of the apparatus, almost all the government apparatuses are involved in some way, but the point is that now, for example, we have to work on the issue of changing the uses, for example, we have to work on the issue of the discovery pattern, well, more on that. yes, yes, yes, in the most important topic of water resources management, yes we have to work on the management of water resources , we have to work on the issues of possessions, the type of exploitations , we have to work, that is, until we coordinate the socio-economic issues of the watershed with the ecological issues, it is practically possible that we can manage correctly in it is not possible for us to do it in the watershed area, and it is necessary to do this together and synergistically.

may god be there, god willing, we will be able to have a good management in the watershed area of ​​the country . well, you mentioned mr. raisi's visionary emphasis on the watershed area, my colleague in the group. agriculture of sed and sima news agency prepared a report with the same theme. if you agree , let's meet again . where the people were in the middle of the flood after the flood, everything in our house is water and all the visits to sirzdeh areas south of kerman were the next stop of the trips, these dams can direct the rain and water

to jazmuri the next destination was after the flood of august 1401 , the dam that needs to be built as a dam is now taken or khorram must be done, the flood in the south when president shahid came to kerman province , he said about watershed management, among the things that must be done in the medium term, the problem of watershed management and watershed needs the government to allocate funds in this regard with the allocated funds . since 1400 , watersheds have been built in the upper reaches of 50 villages in this province. the order to compile the watershed management bill was given in homa's first year as president, the management of watershed communities was emphasized by him. after the order to issue more than 7 million hectares of watershed community management study. the last order that mr