it means that the infrastructure is available in the energy exchange, but the technical logistics infrastructure should be done by the national gas company or tavanir, of course, tavanir is a little bit ahead of the gas control system. whether they can benefit from this profit independently or not , they must be intermediary companies, as you can see , there is no other choice but to be a series of intermediary companies that can actually do this intelligent work, but in line with the discussion . smartening the gas meter of subscribers especially subscribers of the domestic sector, very good studies have been done in the collection of the national gas company, the initial documents have actually been prepared, and it was even supposed to be a series of pilot projects in several regions of the country. it should be done and after

their results have been reviewed , we will move forward with the work in the form of a planned project nationwide, but what is the point of this discussion? we did not have supporting documents before, and during the 13th government, due to the importance and necessity, and due to the fact that this is one one of the most important transformation plans of the government transformation document. it was included in the agenda of the national gas company and its steps are being followed, but i want to say that we did not stop the work because of this issue. the capacity of knowledge -based companies was used both last year and this year . we provide the conditions for them to directly participate in the optimization and reduction of consumption in this field . they should

know these knowledge-based companies or make sure that there will be a connection with your presence. they will work together. to share and gain benefits. the mechanism that has been designed is that those companies of scientists should design a system that, for example , the example i mentioned last year was designed by khamenei , then they themselves go for marketing and in fact according to it. the areas that will be available to them now may be one or more provinces , they communicate with subscribers, in fact, those subscribers register in that system, even in the project that is in the study phase for this year, and we hope, god willing, before it starts. the cold season is designed to be approved by the market secretariat that some of the items that can help to achieve sustainable savings can also be displayed on their website, so that the subscriber can, for example, choose a heater that costs 3 million to buy higher figures and pay a part of its cost in

exchange for savings. which he is doing to pay and at the same time get part of it in the form of cash receipt. now , what was the form of this first certificate that was issued, how much was its volume ? can you tell me a bit more about which industry it was , how it was supposed to be spent, how can you see that the first certificate that was actually saved was issued according to the plan that was made to improve the engine houses , we managed to get the necessary permits to issue 125 million cubic meters of natural gas, which we will issue the certificate of. let's bring the viewers closer to see how big it is. what examples can you give us? take a look. the volume we are talking about now is not a very large volume because we wanted to follow our own internal mechanisms along with this issue . in fact, let's implement almost average consumption our subscribers in the domestic sector in the cold season

are close to 12 to 15 cubic meters . daily, every subscriber, and then it was 10 times the daily consumption or subscriber in the cold season, approximately 120 , 120 million. well, the point that is happening now is that 25 million was for the non-peak period and 100 million of this saving was realized in the peak period and according to the supply that took place, now mr. naqvi is present and can i think that in less than half an hour, the entire volume that we offered yesterday, for example 25 million for the peak period, was sold, and this shows that our industry is really into this field. it will be popular

and we hope that by proving that we guarantee to deliver the gas during the peak period and we will prove this in practice this year, god willing, it will make a c. this is that, finally, these expenses that they are making, the investment that they are making , will not be returned on time, and this causes a lack of interest from investors in this field. if we don't have it, this will help the investment return to happen. we also have another job to do . we will move forward with the planning deputy of the ministry of petroleum. after the realization of savings, we will give it a certificate . we are in the process of developing a guideline for providing preliminary certificates. what does it mean that a plan, when it is approved before

its implementation, will meet the savings that are expected to be realized? we actually have a certificate. let's export it to him, he can take it and sell it on the energy exchange the resources that are obtained and at the end of the investment period, if savings are realized, that is , if more savings are realized , surplus certificates will be presented to them, and if for any reason the project is not successful or not implemented, the guarantees received it will cause the government to do no harm in this field. these previous certificates, which we hope to be able to finalize in the next month, god willing, will be promoted, and the investor will, precisely because many of these knowledge-based companies are not so financially capable. they cannot use this platform we hope that there will be a very good boom in the field of rhinoplasty in the country

. the supply of 25 million cubic meters of gas was offered in the symbol of ojbar, which was very well received, and even one or two of the industries that were buyers requested to buy the entire volume of supply at once, that is , they requested to buy the entire volume of 100 million cubic meters. now considering that we wanted a market shape take it, and in the following days , they will be allowed to express it because some of them do not know, and let's observe the principle of fairness in a sense, on the first day, only 25 million cubic meters. the price was discovered. one of the country's steel mills succeeded in buying this electricity, which is actually gas, which it will use in the peak season. the price is based on the same as i told you. each cubic meter is 7 thousand tomans. the price was discovered. well, what is the base price in the next few days?

in fact, you can say that the basic price is 5 thousand tomans because the price of petrochemical feedstock in our country is 5 thousand tomans. and this the first price was discovered, because we shape the market based on this, there is a very important point, i would like to explain here from the perspective of the people and shareholders of the capital market. we had the same effect of energy imbalance on the company's income because we had restrictions in different seasons of the year. until their production would decrease, this tool will help companies a lot by buying it and removing their restrictions, their production will not decrease , they will not have the benefit of the lack of production, and they can even increase have production, so

we will fulfill the slogan of the year in a sense, in line with the jump in production and the profitability of the companies that are on the stock market and are the major industries of ours, will not be affected in any way , and they can have their income, and god willing, you will see starting today, every day from 9:00 am to 12:00 pm, the supplies will be made continuously. the colleagues of the gas company and other investors will start supplying as much as they have the power to, up to the current ceiling of 125 million cubic meters. the market can supply the total release of the market according to the resolution the supreme energy council has 10 billion cubic meters for gas, that is, up to 10 billion cubic meters, the limit of commitments that can

be made for this year, for every year. you can see that for 125 million, which we offer according to the conditions that are happening in the market and according to the advices we get from the market participants, so that we can maintain the competitiveness of the conditions . in the national gas company , it is now being followed in the introduction of your excellency's discussion there was also discussion. the plan of replacing high efficiency heaters instead of low efficiency heaters. yesterday, at the end of the meeting, a memorandum of understanding was signed between the iran gas trading company and one of the companies that is actually an investor for a plan to replace one million heaters, and this helps because the certificates for the replacement of heaters are issued once every three months. we can allow these certificates to be published continuously, god willing. let's take it by predicting how much will be saved from this place , i.e. how much will you see for the whole project of heaters

according to the approval of the economic council, which should be 4 million 4 one million and 100,000 heaters should be replaced within 5 years, 9 billion cubic meters of savings are expected for each heater, and the annual yield will be 10 billion nets. instead of replacing heaters with low efficiency , it is replaced. the national gas company must issue 46 cubic meters in 5 years and 46,466 cubic meters every year , which in total will be 9 billion cubic meters in 5 years. preparing to participate in this heater replacement project they have plans that they have made and the understandings that they concluded with the boiler companies

for the capacity of 200,500,000 boilers for this year. you did it right, it is supposed to be done in one year, and where if that thing is actually 1 million for 5 years, yes, yes, it can be almost 200,000 in the same year , of course, because it has to be built and actually replaced, you can actually find a graph slope. it is less in the first years. in the next years, god willing it will increase. already, these 1 million heaters will save how much gas will be saved, how many certificates will be issued, let's say it as you like, see for each heater, approximately 2,500 cubic meters will be exported in total, so it will be something close to two and a half billion meters. the cube that this will be done within 5 years and that the contract is now a memorandum of understanding will be a contract . our colleagues at

razavi khorasan province gas company are actually following up , we hope to sign the contract within the next month it is even more advanced, because the initial understandings were concluded with the boiler makers who are currently making boilers, and there is only a series of contract issues for which cities and provinces the one million boilers are for. and in fact, it installs the area after it has actually reached the construction stage, the national gas company with the priority of the cold regions and other priorities that are mentioned in the resolution of the economic council, including the subscribers who are covered by the relief committee of institutions like the welfare organization. military institutions and the priority is with them god willing, it will be done, so it means prioritizing where and with what quality to buy these, it's up to you, mr. naqvi

, there is one thing that exists. there is a question that this is only unique to our country that we are issuing these certificates in your presence, or in other countries they do a similar thing for their low consumption and high consumption and they issue these certificates. yes, this is the experience. it has been repeated in other countries, you can name it. australia is countries you have different experience. to solve the dissatisfaction or in fact to reduce the abuse in a better way , there are different policies and mechanisms. one of these mechanisms is that there were white certificates in the world. in some countries of the world , the person who consumes more than the consumption pattern has to go

and buy the certificate from the market from those who consume less than the consumption pattern, which of course has this issue, that is, the government here is on the side of the government, which is also an issue. it is being followed up with the cooperation of the ministry of economy and the ministry of oil it can be amended in the relevant regulations and those who consume more than the consumption pattern in our country will have to be required to state the truth and prepare these documents. what's good about this is that the governments are on the sidelines and the low-consumption and high-consumption non -government and private sectors are attractive to invest in the field of optimization. it increases the market demand. you see, one of the important missions we have is to justify investment in the field of saving. anyway, if we want to build a new power plant in our own country now, due to the lack of hydropower resources we have and or to develop a new gas refinery

, to develop a new gasoline refinery , it is a very high investment and it disrupts the export, we have to be careful. let's hope that the export of our country does not decrease in the field of products, so the inevitable solution for the investor is optimization. whatever we diversify the methods of optimization and strengthen the demand side from that side, it will lead to a better situation at the macro level of the macro economy. ok, and let the country increase, your next step is to be accepted in the energy exchange and issue energy certificates such as electricity. hint you said that it needs a series of instructions for other products and energy carriers. we also talked about the next step that we can talk about with planning. if he does it and sends it, we will have the trading certificate of bag. in electricity, several projects

have already been completed and one or two of the projects are in the measurement and verification phase. that we allocated the certificates, the discussion of gas certificates, well, one or two other projects led to the conclusion of the contract , just as chegni announced the discussion yesterday. there are brick kilns , we have their certification on our agenda to implement, and according to the conversation we had with the honorable minister of oil yesterday, and he also mentioned in his speech , with the help of the deputy minister of oil ministry's program for other energy carriers, for example. in terms of infrastructure and regulations, we have this capacity in the stock market . we have started negotiations with the ministry of energy for the water consumption certificate. well, this is also seen in the seventh plan, and as i told you, in article 24 of the law on financing infrastructure to all the executive bodies of the country. this is allowed to issue savings certificates under a framework

and we hope that with this work we can develop. we saw the development of the optimization and environment market as one of the main missions and the main program of the energy exchange in the next two years. there is news from the ministry of energy and power that when will they prepare these recipes and deliver them to you. you had negotiations so that we can imagine a date for it. yes, the follow-up was done. in fact, the ministry of energy accepted it earlier than the gas company, but making it tradable remained a bit in the administrative bureaucracy of tavanir company. according to what we followed, in fact, the initials are different units of width and we hope to receive it within the next month. in this case, if you are going to issue a certificate from there, it is similar to the same gas in the field of electricity , because we have an incident in the field of electricity, again with the priority of large companies and producers and our large industry. these

are limited in the hot season and have interruptions, and it should be managed with the ability to imagine something like this. shuwara energy decree, which was announced in november of last year, covers both electricity and gas in the area of ​​consumption restrictions, and in electricity, we have a peak certificate, or peak load, both normal and critical point. now a project is being carried out in one of the country's hospitals to reduce consumption. well , according to the friends of the company , they have the power of a critical hour in electricity, which is a special ram certificate. it will be allocated and work will be done. i hope we will be able to have electricity fast soon, although as i said , we have implemented the experience of green electricity for the industry since last year. you mentioned it, but i talked about the point that i asked about and asked you for plans for my gasoline

it was similar because we saw in kish and qeshm that , for example, everyone has a national code. his gasoline quota should be on the national code and he should trade in a market . is that market the same market we are talking about or not? it is different. look , there is a difference between gasoline and gasoil or liquid fuels. we have, because we have the gas and electricity transmission and explanation network, and all the subscribers are specific to gasoline and diesel, well, we have the issue of export markets, and the delivery of this important issue is the commitment of the country's refining company or refinery. to deliverability of gasoline and there is diesel. the proposals that we had, and in fact, were that these should be consolidated in one course, and they should be certified and in the form of export currencies , if the ministry of manpower and the national monitoring company are ready, we are in the energy exchange in terms of regulations and technical infrastructure. we are fully prepared . in what

area should the preparation of the ministry of naftia and palash bakhshia be in terms of guaranteeing that they will deliver gasoline and gas ? make cooperation necessary, we are in the energy exchange we are fully prepared for this. consumers can see, for example, in the field of gasoline, which has always been a hot topic, in the field of insurance cars, the government was supposed to give loans to the owners of worn-out cars, and due to the limitations of financial resources, it was not possible to make repairs. well, there will also be an issue of inflation, but here we assume that a person wants to use his car in 2 years and now it is worn out and he will hand it over. can we deliver the fuel for those two years to him now in the form of a certificate and in specific periods it can be offered in the market from 3 months, so that the issue of deliverability will not be a problem. actually, the government

does not give loans, and by saving fuel , it removes a worn-out car and puts a low-consumption car into the circuit in kalan. it reduces the intensity of fuel consumption in the country, both for inter -urban vehicles with diesel fuel and for urban vehicles. in gasoline, why what you say was not done? as a matter of fact , the colleagues of flash vacht company should answer the corner in this regard, that is, the open challenge of delivery or supply, or something else, because if it was used in two years, for example, as you said, that share would have been burned and that's all. high consumption and these things should be done, which means that the government should have paid for that subsidized gasoline from its own pocket. yes, you see, i have an experience that is the end of my discussion. well, anyway, we are facing a lot of government scams with darho energy. concerns that there is a reform of the financial relations that exists , the effect of these energies on people's subsidies, each of

these has provided many complications , the relations between the national refinery of palash are spread in gasoline, in gas, which has an effect on the targeting of subsidies, these complications are really it took a long time and i have to thank the program management organization tiny our colleagues in the national gas company and the ministry of energy, which were changed, i said yesterday, and today i must say that we must really be indebted to mr. raisi, our martyred president, for his efforts in the supreme energy council to form this market, which was included in the government's transformation plan, and many challenges. the good that we had in the last three years in de shurali energy has accelerated a lot, and these state companies have now scared many bureaucrats in this direction because there is a problem, in order to save money, you leave the government aside and the investment agent will establish a relationship now

i use electricity, it is issued first, the money goes to your savings account, this doesn't happen anymore. i save, they give me a certificate , a factory buys this certificate, the money is transferred from the factory account to the spending account, and the money is in circulation . oh, you account for power. this is a fundamental challenge that has existed in this field. well, i would like to ask you that, in your opinion, as an expert in the field of energy exchange , you think that this exit from the financial cycle, which may be a little if your promise causes concern in these companies, it will be more beneficial for me do you want your presence or from companies like qavanir or any other company that is doing this work, or if it can manage that cycle in optimization, the cycle is in optimization, because if it does not do this, consumption will increase, they will be obliged

to invest from their own resources. they will do it in the construction of new transmission lines and explain the power plant, and this will take very high capital costs and they are facing limited resources, but when we get the people to participate in saving, the people themselves will be willing to invest with their own resources, you will see the difference. you see, 100 to 200 tomans per cubic meter of household gas with 5 to 7 thousand tomans in the industry means that if i come to my house, turn off the heating and put on warm clothes for a few hours, i can reduce my consumption to about 5 per cubic meter. until 6,000 tomans of profit will be returned to me, so people will definitely come and enter this process, that is, for example, for this gas, something like 60, for example, i don't have a two-minute

program left, so i have a short question for mr. kashfi. the ones we have now, in which 25 million cubic meters were done yesterday and are going to be done every day how long is your plan to be continuous , i.e. 25 million cubic meters every day, until which day and how much, please tell us in more detail so that the companies that are in demand and want to participate can express more easily and have more information. as i told you, we will definitely measure the market situation and the peak supply of 75 million cubic meters remains licensed, and according to the initial discussions we had with some experts in the capital market, the best situation is for this market to find depth. there are only two or three minor deals left, for example, we are with small volumes, for example, 5 million cubic meters per day, 4 million, 3 million, depends on the market conditions, because

as a rule, how much depends on the season. as we get closer to the cold, this market will become more attractive and attractive . as a rule, we will measure the market conditions and this 75 million cubic meters will be suitable for the market conditions, so it is not like you supply 3 more to 25 and that's it. it takes a part of the market, not the rule is that we offer this with smaller packages, while this helps small companies to compete in this market, for example, now, for example, this is 25 million. what is the consumption of the cubic meter that one of the steel companies you mentioned bought, that is, in order to know how the demand and supply is formed, it depends on the type of consumption and the type of production they do, the volume of production that was consumed last year, for example he had this purchase that he made to cover their production for almost 3 weeks, that particular company . yes

, it is a significant number. cover it. it depends on the volume of their consumption. how long will you supply until then? fill 75 million cubic meters? if we are to do each of these packages in the form of, for example, four or five packages , it will take about a month, a month and a half. 52.15 minutes , you accompanied us, may god protect you, ali.

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