that is, when you look at the economy, you see that new urban centers have been formed , buildings have been developed, the most important of which are residential buildings , non-residential buildings, these have been developed , a series of areas have been developed. the area is very livable and very high quality today. these are the main ways of creating economic growth experienced in the world in china. it has happened in different places on the persian gulf itself, for example, on an area that had nothing at all, a new urban life has been created. this has a very high economic growth capacity. based on what mr. romer, who won the nobel prize, says that we want an urban policy instead of an industrial policy for economic growth in the country, and also you should develop your production equipment, improve new machinery, new equipment, in fact, invest. what is new in these, in the long term

, high economic growth definitely needs these and it cannot be limited to productivity, especially for a country that has empty capacities, that is, we are a country that, after all, yes, for countries that are developed, productivity is very important for them. because there is so much unused capacity they don't have to be able to use it better , but for us, both are relevant. in the short term , interest is more, but in the long term, capital formation is more relevant. when we want to talk about economic growth , you see the policies that lead to improving economic growth. we must be realistic. we cannot overestimate our own power as a government as a politician . we cannot make slogans. this is not the place to make slogans. this is a discussion of numbers and figures, and what should happen on earth is reality. this is the power of our economic policy apparatus it is not very high, this is in different places.

it has shown and we know this, and we should recommend and plan according to this ability , otherwise it will become like a slogan. to create means to create openings in the field of sanctions, which of course must be effective openings, openings that lead to benefit, that is, opening up discussions. taking pictures and writing something, cooking for example, etc. is not useful. really, we can do better. export, we can really do better in our transfers, better attract investment , better our business will happen more easily, a benefit will really reach us. it is not our specialty , but this issue is a very important requirement that we can create an opening in this, that is

, stable economic growth with high figures under the conditions we are in now, in fact, it is very difficult to achieve it . let us know, i think more than half it is related to these openings, that is, when we look at the coordinates of our economy , we compare the years when we were sanctioned or not , this is definitely important, but see my point is that we should not make slogans and fantasize about sanctions because it may also be included in the slogan , we will remove the sanctions, it will all be canceled at the end of the day, this is the story, this is not really going to happen. finally, even if you say after that incident iran is a country under sanctions. you say iran is a country under sanctions. yes, it means that the sanctions have not been lifted in their entirety. but we were actually

able to create a few concrete openings with the other side, especially for investment in our country, and we made some bad closures on those specific openings, but it is possible that the overall framework of the sanctions will remain , not that there is no problem. for example , it does not matter because it is not realistic, which means that lifting the embargo in the short term definitely requires military and security concessions. otherwise, you have to go to a series of specific bad schools that are finally the line your red points should be respected , create some openings on the other side, this is more realistic, in terms of what areas do you think this can be achieved , see the main area that should happen here , that is, the main thing that we can do. we are a country that produces and exports raw and semi-raw goods, whose content of natural resources is very high. we must be able

to export these goods. the basis of our economy is to be able to export these goods abroad, and on the other hand, it is a soft economy that imports we give, that is , we export and import made however, our art should be that the freedom we create as a result of this export should naturally be to countries that want our products , but at the same time , see that they have what we want. we can export so much to the neighboring countries, while the neighboring countries do not have what we want. see , our main problem is that we need to export to capital countries. we are in transition, which means that we can exchange the trade surplus that we create there, in an ideal situation, even if we do not import it, or we can have a specific import. let's ask them to invest in this issue that is happening with china, for example, i think china and europe will be the main options in this case, that is

, america will leave, why because america basically doesn't need our oil and natural resources anymore, america is a rich country. and if i myself want oil and want natural resources from the countries almost around it, now the highest import of us oil is from canada and from mexico , it is no longer dependent on the oil of the persian gulf. china and europe are landlocked i say that they are also powers , so to speak, while america, england , these are maritime powers, they are completely 2 different classes and categories. those countries that buy our goods are potential customers. there are china and europe, and at the same time, these are also investor countries, that is, china, as you know , has serious investment plans in the form of the one belt one road project, and the europeans also have big companies that these big companies well, it is in the history of our economy that these

companies invest next to the neighboring countries. neighbors say that it means that our relations with neighboring countries cannot be to the extent that we have a trade surplus. it is important that in the neighboring countries , we have this experience with iraq. it means that the gas export that we had to iraq eventually created a surplus there , what do we need to settle it? let's go around and say, well , you don't want to come and invest in us . you know that iraq is not an investment country . look, here we are trapped . our neighboring countries are not investment countries. 1 and 2 countries are our competitors, mainly , they are the exporters of the things that we are also exporting, so we can say that the big event will happen through transactions that will lead to our exporting more oil and attracting investment. we from european countries and china, what will be the second step? you said that half of it is almost sanctions, the other half, yes, you see, the rest of the matter

is that we have to organize our interventions in the economy of government intervention. . one aspect of it is to reduce intervention, for example, you assume the prices that we have in the economy , the pricing must be in a special mode in the economy, that is , you must have a reason why you are pricing the product, the reason must be convincing, for example, a monopoly, for example, a market from a monopoly, we cannot be a monopolist. let's leave it as it is, but in our economy, it's a bit the other way around, that is, we put the principle on pricing , as if we say that we want a reason not to price it. the situation must change , we must try to stop the government's interventions in this , that is, the government's interventions are too much now, of course. ineffective means that there are many and ineffective interventions . this intervention should not be done. this price level should be up to my example. you can tell the viewers the truth that i have. for example, the most important example may

be the discussion of, for example, automobiles, which although it is a monopoly market , it is a monopoly, but look at the pricing of the original price. arguing how you price is another story. you may set a price that is reasonable and supports production, that is, it can be true that it is a monopolist, but at the same time it gives it space for growth and development, but our pricing usually goes towards in any case, under the conditions that the people are in , it finds a very large streak of popularity, and we are going to take it to the companies that will make a loss . 9 times, while our average prices for cars are about 7 times , below 7 times, which means that the car industry is completely below the general price level, and this has caused a significant loss. what can be done to cover the loss to the banking network through facilities? can the banking network become a part of the balance sheet with these facilities?

given to compensate for this loss, then he can't give education to anyone else , he won't give education to anyone else, investment will be disrupted, which means it will be a chain of dominoes that will fall in the economy and the whole economy. it weakens, what's wrong with pricing, or some places where we go to find out that we go to the principle of pricing , for example, in the field of currency, for example, the preferred currency in the case of, for example, there. as you can see, in fact , when we succeed in hitting the preferred land, the result is that domestic production will be limited, and it is no longer profitable for you, for example. with a cheap land, for example, 28 and 500 compared to the market , while the whole price level in the economy adjusts itself to the free dollar, even if you manage to finance a place with the preferential width , the result is that it is actually a crooked. you are creating a price in the economy and this internal production is led. there is also a spectrum opposite to the current of scholars. now, if not the current of scholars , the debate is that it is the people's table, not the debate

, they say, sir, what will happen to the welfare of the people ? this is something that is a view that is a spectacle that we have from the back of it . we credit the welfare policy , everything has become our welfare policy, we must have an independent welfare policy, then the horizontal policy maker should go and do his job, the monetary policy maker should go and do his job, the rest should be free to plan according to the requirements of economic growth and economic development. we should not turn everything into rifai policy, thank you. our communication with mr. zanganeh has been re-established by phone. mr. zanganeh , please continue your explanation. yes, see it again. hello

, i would like to ask you about the 8 percent that i told you, but the problem we have is that sometimes friends talk about this 8 percent growth. they don't see all the program series together, that is , if we look at all the seasons of the program as a package, all the same points that are now in this same program , dear mr. dr. drodian, we paid attention to, for example, our pricing area for the first time. load orders for price we brought investment in the 7th plan, we told the government that you are only allowed to subsidize the goods you have, for example, you have a preferential width , you can enter and the price. for the rest of the goods, which are even exclusive goods, like

cars, we came and made orders based on article 44 of the law, where we came to the so-called regulatory department, and we obliged the government, at least in that case , we assigned duties to it in four areas. we banned the pricing of competitive products and said that if the government makes a price that causes loss to the producer, it should go compensate for that loss, or if we use this 8d, for example, in the field of welfare issues or, for example, in the field of housing, when we come to increase housing , we say, for example, the annual growth of housing must be a certain number . what are the issues that make housing growth difficult? regarding the context, we obliged the government to

add 2/10% to urban and rural residential habitats, or if we came to the industry sector , we brought a decree for the government. we said, mr. government, you no longer have the right, for example, in the steel industry. expand these fields , leave them, in the next 5 years, your policy will go to other links of the production chain in the petrochemical field, in the steel industry, in the aluminum field, in the egyptian field, in the automobile field, so i want to say this. first of all, i believe that this is based on the fact that i believe that the 7th program of the 13th government's expert capacity set was the 11th parliament, and five or six months after this program

was stopped in the parliament, one of its blessings was that it was with almost all those who spoke in different fields. the think tanks themselves, the institutions, the ministries, we sat down and talked. i believe that 8% growth is completely possible, while we have a solution with what requirements this should happen, that is , mr. drodian pointed out that almost according to his analysis and expertise, it is half in the 14th government. it should be spent on the opening of sanctions, a large part of which is the pricing orders that you mentioned. what is your opinion? what do you think is the priority of the 14th government to achieve 8 percent economic growth now that with oil it is almost 45 without oil 3 percent to reach that eight percent as do you think that the priorities should be ? see, i will complete this sentence first . do we have any other choice but economic growth ? let's look at the issue from this side first, when we

have a liquidity growth of 25%, at least in the best conditions like now. maybe it will be more or something like this, when we put together our employment situation, our unemployment situation and all these issues, we have no choice but to grow production, even the jump in production and economic growth is also connected to the government's budget, because what are the budget capacities of the government's resources now? that we are selling in the queue , i thank you for your presence, that our papers will come second how much capacity do we have? let's sell and pay the government's expenses. the third thing is the tax. we can't increase the so-called tax amount anymore. we don't have to stand by this issue to realize this growth, but what are the requirements, well, we

meet the requirements in different seasons. we have seen, it means that if i say that we should see the program as a package, for example, let me give an example in season 7, which is the agricultural season. the growth of our agriculture means the share of agricultural growth in the growth of the other economy. finally, for example, we may say that we have 1% growth. if it is not negative, then we sat down and checked why this growth is not happening. one of the reasons is your presence in the field. sources of water supply, one area is about increasing productivity per level unit, one discussion is about our import and export policies, one discussion is about the pricing of agricultural products, we have come in article 32 in table number 6 for all these cases.

here we created a so-called requirement for the government. for example, we said that you should have at least 50% of productivity unit of increase, let me say a product that i am only involved in now because it is closely related to our constituency, for example, saffron , saffron, which we can easily produce 10 to 12 kilos per hectare, now our production rate per hectare is about four . kilos , if you can increase the productivity of the so-called saffron-cultivated lands just by 2 kilos per hectare , how much wealth will we produce? and let's not ignore this. yes, the issue of sanctions is important

no one believes that sanctions have no effect. it is not economic for the country, but the fact is that the sanctions will eventually open up in the economic environment of our country, if they are removed, we can, for example, reduce 20% to 30% in our import costs, in our oil sales, or in our exports. now that we are dealing with sanctions we face or for any reason, it means that you know less than what mr. dordian mentioned, i definitely know less. mr. drodian himself will surely confirm this . for example, look at the oil sector. it was not compatible with the reality and the budget of the country. now in the field of oil, what is the ceiling of our production? we are currently producing at the ceiling. at all, we do not have the possibility to export more than this. that is, if someone comes and

says, sir, i want 500,000 barrels per day from you. million barrels i want to buy oil from you at all, we have a production capacity problem in the field of returning my oil money to the country. 10%, 15% in the worst case, 20%, we may decrease here to have the income from oil resources, but it is not like that if the sanctions are lifted today, we now have, for example, 6 million liters of oil production per day , we can export 5 million liters, for example , this reality does not exist at all, we are in trouble now. we have production, which means that now we have to invest and increase our production. in this area , dear viewers, this question may come to them

, so why don't we increase our oil production? well, this requires foreign investment, and sanctions also prevent foreign investors from coming. so-called investment in the country, well, we have this in the program seventh, one of the debates that almost until the last days in the assembly and in the board. the monitoring went back and forth, the same discussion was about why we use the capacity of our own development fund, which has a large demand from the government for the amounts it has given to the government in different years. we do not invest in new fields or shared fields. however, my point is that if we relate this to the sanctions, sir, the sanctions should be lifted so that something happens to us, even in the same year 2015 when we had an economic growth of 12 and a half percent.

we had friends go to study that year, when the jcpoa was a year later, the jcpoa was completed , it was the first year that the european countries and the so-called countries that sanctioned us were willing to finally have something happen to you. check the growth factors of 2015, how much did the removal of sanctions , for example, cause us to attach a so-called special share for economic growth to the sanctions of that year? stay with us, mr. zang . please, how many more minutes do we have? i will return to please tell me again, mr. drodian, that there are more than 20 documents in the program we have that the government must meet the requirements of this growth. 8.

seeing the embargo from the point of view of just selling oil and how much oil we sell and how much money we get back, well , this is of course an important issue, that is, when you look at it in the short term, this is a very important issue, but it is what will ultimately increase our economic growth in a sustainable way. to expand private sector investment. this means that the key issue is our oil income, as they say, even if it improves, it will reach a certain ceiling, which means that more than that cannot be sanctioned . it is actually exchange costs and the so-called there are things that fall, for example, we say it doesn't fall, but sanctions have an important effect on both the possibility of expanding investment in the ghasir sector and the vision they have, and if we look at it from this point of view, it is actually considered a more important factor. look , i repeat again, we cannot

be too proud of our economic policies. as you can see, i said that a part of our policies aimed at economic growth should be the reduction of interventions, which i said was a purposeful discussion. making interventions means we have to make targeted interventions and targeted support what in certain sectors, in certain sectors that have a high growth capacity, see for example the construction sector for almost 10-12 years, which has really been humiliated in our economy, in the real sense compared to what it was before, that is, the role it played in economic growth. we completely went to the direction that the building sector is constantly experiencing negative growth , now the thief has been for one or two years in recent years, but the rest have all been negative growths, after the housing prices skyrocketed, after all, there were many areas. there is a lot of good stuff inside, almost all of it, if not 100, about 90% of what it is in the chain, what can i say

, there are residential and non-residential buildings and infrastructure inside, so here we have rings that are separated from each other and can be connected, the housing part, the transportation part, the part of the plan that generally leads to the improvement of energy consumption , especially gas because if we save gas , it will directly increase our production and export. it gives that these are actually special sectors and special companies in those special sectors , special companies as they say, which means high growth companies , young companies, neither new nor old companies, companies that have a medium scale and companies that are in in fact, they don't necessarily have to be startups, they don't have to be very knowledge-based, companies that have been able to show growth higher than their own for a few years, these should be in those specific sectors, target setting , government policy support. let's have your summary regarding the same rulings that i presented to you. when exactly should the government deliver this undocumented document

? there are some programs that focus on that policy. until it is and during the first six months of this program he should compile the so-called drafts and bring them to the image of the parliament, which will complement the hundred and so-called 19 articles that we saw in the 7th plan , as if they are defined by the operation of the executive way. let me tell you the point. regarding the investment, gentlemen are correct in saying that the embargo must be lifted, but i

want to say that even now, when countries and investors from our neighboring countries are ready to invest in the country , unfortunately, we provide the conditions for this investment. we didn't. just today, i had an objection to the investors of our neighboring countries , afghanistan and pakistan, who have come , they say, we have come so much , we have invested in the country, now it has reached the limit. but even now , we are not satisfied and the investment conditions are not ready for us, so we see many of these obstacles inside. the last thing i would like to say is that the discussion of energy saving is mentioned in table number 10 of the law of our 7th plan for all agricultural sectors. cash transportation industry, etc., we saw some savings . thank you very much, mr. zangeneh, for being with me in this program, a member of the parliament's budget program committee.

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