this is the first speech of mr. bezikian after his election in imam rahel's holy shrine. the chapter in which the expert and specialized scientific body of the country also spoke. a few days ago, the president-elect met with the members of the pension centers. give your suggestions too. when the doctors insist on the use of extra-criminal experts and agents . this time to introduce the option of ministry of cooperation, labor and social welfare. being knowledgeable, knowledgeable, and capable can be a problem because just because a person is from a criminal group does not solve our problem. the steering council of the 14th government cabinet members was formed by the order of the elected president and chaired by mr. zarif. a council consisting of five specialized groups, whose officials are appointed by mr. zarif.

and soon a group of more than 450 experts will present their opinions in the process of selecting government cabinet members. while saying goodbye to the viewers of the first channel, i invite you to the khabar channel. be a viewer of tonight's special news talk. well, as i said, in this report , we saw together tonight in a special news interview, we have a look at the selection process of the members of the 14th government board, mr. zarif , the head of the steering council for the selection of the 14th government cabinet. last night, he was a guest of a special news talk show, in which he explained the actions and meetings of this council about the new government. mr. zarif said that

clean hands and honesty, having a national attitude and not having a quantitative orientation and commitment to upper level documents are the conditions for being in the cabinet selection committees. in tonight's special news interview program , we have a look at this issue. mr. ibrahim sheikh, one of the members of the staff of dr. dr. bezikian , is with us during the 14th presidential election, and mr. ahmad naderi, a member of the speaker of the islamic council , mr. sheikh, welcome. greetings. and politeness and i respect you. dear viewers, your excellency, and mr. dr. naderi, mr. naderi, i offer my courtesy and greetings, i am at your service , dear mr. hosseini, dear viewers all over iran and the world, and our dear friend, mr. dr. sheikh, mr. sheikh, let's start the conversation with your excellency. your excellency, you are one of the main members of the president-elect's staff . the media atmosphere of holding the press conference of dr.

dr. mezikian is, well, you know , it has been the custom for all eras that the president-elect immediately after holding a press conference with the presence of both domestic and foreign journalists, but still not having a meeting with mr. dr. mezikian, even though it was announced once and then canceled, there is a special reason why it was not held or the conditions have not yet been met , as you have mentioned, sir mr. medical doctor. they put a lot of emphasis on observing the experts' point of view in their own governance actions and behavior, and by the way, the same conditions they created for the selection of the cabinet and the extensive use of experts' opinions show that they are acting on their most central slogan, naturally, the first conference. boss

the president also has a very wide reflection at the international and domestic level. in the past, we have seen that some of the elected presidents acted hastily to hold this meeting, and sometimes words were said that might not adequately protect our national interests. it did not comply with the comprehensive review of the conditions. and taking into account all the interests of the country's national interests is considered by mr. dr. bizikian, and i will definitely do this at the appointed time . adequate delivery will be provided at the appointed time it was, but what you said has nothing to do with holding a press conference. i don't know what the topic of our discussion is.

highlighting such a process overshadows the role of the parliament . what is your excellency's view? before i enter into the discussion, i would like to express my condolences to the members of the sayyid and salar of the martyrs of hazrat aba abdullah al-hussein and all the free people of the world and our good people. well,

this process is a new process. i mean, in fact, we have had several presidents, more than 10 presidents have come and gone, and in fact. we have seen its processes. this is a new process that we are seeing now in fact, now a series of working groups have been formed , the steering council, under which there are working groups, and a series of goals have been defined for it, and structures and what the honorable guest of your program last night actually announced the discussion of civil society, which actually wants to civil society should be used and , as the saying goes, elites and the like. now , this is my advice to mr. dr. mezikian , my dear friend, because i actually have a very close friendship with dr. mezikian in the parliament. we lived together for four years. as one of the participants, in

fact, the civil society is not only the members of the staff, that is , what i have seen in the working groups, while maintaining respect, is almost a re-articulation of the members of the staff of mr. medical doctor. it is our dear that in fact, the civil society is the 134 million people who voted for the competitor and they should be seen , and in fact they have a prominent role in these mechanisms, that is, do you believe that those who voted for the competitors and the companions of the medical competitors should in this work of the group and in the cabinet, now there is another discussion in the cabinet that i will actually call it i will raise this mechanism to the opinion.

the steering council that was created and said, well , it has one form, one face, and one, in fact, the content of the face and the shape and form, if we want to specify in fact , well, in fact, several working groups, five working groups , apparently, if i'm not mistaken, with different names of features it has positive features, its positive features are debates , such as the transparency of specialization and the use of experts, youthism in particular, and the formation of a young government, as well as a series of content . doing the basics of the revolution means loyalty to the fundamentals of the revolution and upper documents , adherence to the speech of mr. medeshkian, which i will now explain about mr. medeshkian's speech

, avoiding sectarianism and regionalism, and discussions that are actually clean-handed, courageous, and frank, and these are yes, in my initial section. i said these points that mr. zarif actually expressed. it is the content that the bias of the steering council defines this content and its direction, which in my opinion is more prominent and that is the discussion of the president's speech, adherence to the president's speech. in fact, we want to analyze the content and analyze the discourse of his speeches during the elections, which of course i actually participated with him in the islamic council 4 years ago. they have a key word of basic principle, that is justice and right , that is, right and justice are actually these two, and their adherence to the discussion of justice and these, well, in fact, the central signifier, in my opinion, is the speech of mr. medzikian , the discussion is actually justice, now right and justice and all these things that are actually placed under justice and

the goal of dr. mezikian is actually the discussion of justice , and on the other hand, we are seeing it in the discussions in indeed, the honorable chairman of the steering council and other friends of the discussion. reforms are mentioned a lot in their statements and it is frequent, and in all of mr. zarif 's speeches, they also point out that in fact, dr. mezikian actually belongs to the discourse of the reformers and to the reform camp. well, in fact, we are here. mr. zarif's interpretation is actually the discourse of reforms . in my opinion, there is a discourse contradiction here , because actually we have seen the reforms since the 70s. in fact, the main point and the central signifier of the reforms from the 70s until now is actually the discourse. conversation there are reforms, and the issue of justice

is actually discussed here, that is, mr. medzikian himself raises the issue of justice . in fact, the contradiction of behavior in the discussion of the government should not actually become in what sense in the sense that, for example, in the economic discussion in particular. and their economic working group and the ministers who want to be proposed by this working group and probably it will be clear in the process of introduction and parliament and not actually that the respected president is a justice seeker his discourse is justice, the center of his discourse is to use the market of neoliberal freedoms in the discussion of the economy, which in fact, this discussion will be a contradiction, a serious contradiction. very much, mr. sheikh , before i ask a question, do you have something to say about mr. naderi's speech? let me be at your service and then i will ask my question, mr. dr. naderi, you said

that the civil society is not only the headquarters of mr. dr. mezikian. minority women. and of course, even in some of these working groups there are people who are not actually in the reform front or among the supporters of dr. mezikian, but because they had good expert skills , they work in these committees and help let this work be done from the ministers of the previous governments of mr. ahmadinejad's governments, from the university professors who

were not actually in the election campaign of mr. dr. mezikian and now they are present in the committees, because the members of the committees are confidential, it is possible to name names from this. not after the output of the committees it came out, of course, the names will also be known in the public opinion. this is the point that mr. naderi mentioned that, for example , they are from the headquarters of the rival of mr. bezikian or from the companions of the rival of mr. bezikian in the yes, yes, working groups? yes, yes, yes, no , i say very decisively, because i myself participate in the work of the committees and see these people, of course , there are those who have high expertise and we use them. your concern is gone, mr. no, see, while respecting mr. dr. sheikh , it is possible that one or two people may be used somewhere, because i don't know.

reforms emphasize more on freedom i am sorry for your speech, mr. dr. dr. bizikian adalat. now, most of the ruling parties in the world , especially now in european countries , are social democratic parties. they are parties that are concerned about freedom and justice, and by the way

, i would like to request that the official economic statistics published in the central bank and the statistics center should check the highest purchasing power of our workers , who are among the deprived classes of society, during the period when the reforms were in force . and you cut people short for responsibilities. for the viewers, yes, see a council policy-making or in other words the steering council is at the highest point of the pyramid. which has 22 members, the head of this council is mr. dr. zarif, this council has five working groups, the people who are in charge of this working group are all people with good experience in their respective fields, each working group includes several ministries, for example, in the cultural working group

of the ministry of heritage, guidance, education, science and research, we have young people, in the social working group of martyr women's foundation , we have welfare, health, environment, administrative and employment affairs, and also in other working groups have taken another path apart from this steering council. every ministry has a committee, which is completed by a combination of two academics, two from angie o, and in fact, all the resumes that it comes through the groups and organizations, in addition to the resumes that come through individuals , the members of the committees are carefully reviewed and refined in these committee meetings, and finally they are evaluated based on the established protocol, and people are introduced. they will go to the working group and finally to

the council. instead of the protocol, we can say the method instead of a resume, we can say records, and it's definitely not the european governments, often the governments

are some of them . in fact, the state of the world's political system and in fact my argument is that now i wish that we were social democrats, that is, i wish that the cabinet of mr. dr. medzikian would move towards social democracy, that is also good. if it is supposed that the neoliberal rights of the free market are at work in the field of economics, my point is that mr. dr. sheikh basically, these have nothing to do with the speech of mr. dr. doctors do not have to talk about actually. we mentioned purchasing power, well, we don't want to criticize the governments now, in fact the representatives of the previous governments are not responsible for what they say here, but the disaster is indeed neoliberal and the disaster that happened to people's purchasing power, at least in the second government of mr. rouhani , which we did not forget. but if you want to get into mr. sheikh's answer, agree , let's not get into this issue

. regarding whether the opinions of the parliament and the representatives have been taken is it done or not? still officially, in fact, as far as i know, well, of course, we are two weeks on vacation, which cannot be said, because we do not have a holiday in the parliament, we have weeks of constituencies, these candidates are not in tehran, i will visit our constituencies for two weeks in in fact , we were talking about the holiday weeks of the constituencies, but as far as i know, no official reference has been made , no opinion has been sought, but the point is that from my point of view , if i want to make a statement , it is good that the indicators of this working group and in fact , the committee and these things should be determined so that we can do it later in fact, evaluation means one of our evaluation criteria in our islamic council, which i mean, in fact, the representatives of the islamic council, and i am one of these representatives, so that one of the criteria of my evaluation, in particular

, should be your criteria, but of course there are other criteria. there is, mr. sheikh. in your opinion, the most important opportunity and of course the challenges or disadvantages of this path that you explained is happening on behalf of the steering council for the selection of government members. the administration of government and countries has been discussed , it is a theory of aristotle's theory, which says, sir, whoever is elected by the people, in fact, should become a ruler and follow the public good. one theory was also plato's theory, which happened to be opposite to aristotle's point of view , which said that whoever is more worthy should rule countries, societies, and cities, even

in the world of that day. the president is the representative of the people, he should be careful to hire the most competent and competent people. this is the mechanism that i have explained to you and you too a good report that he prepared. be taken care of it seems that in fact the result is better than the previous results that we used. in fact, you are probably the one who said it. yes, one of the things that happened in the past, we saw the formation of random cabinets in the world of human resources management. they say, for example , it is possible that the president is a member. if he is a university

student or a mayor, for example, let 's say he studied in a field, then all the rangboy cabinet would actually find him and say that it seems that this framework is working , of course. resistance is encountered and it is natural that every new and new work with resistance. now, 450 of the best experts in the country are working, mr. doctor. they are really serious, but the number of experts in our country is not 4550 , probably 4500 or maybe 45000. we have good and worthy experts in the country. one of the challenges is that now why these 450 and why not the others , one of the issues can be this, and this mechanism and the limited time we have to reach

the cabinet or methods of evaluating all of these can be a challenge, the resistance that you said where does the resistance come from? what did you say that there is a resistance? for example, the limited number of experts who have examined this issue, mr. naderi , please let us know what opportunities there are for this method. you see, i mentioned the experts, as mr. dr., the medical experts constantly raise the issue of experts, which of course is a very correct issue, this use of experts is a rational issue, it is a scientific issue, and in fact , it is a logical issue, no one can deny this at all. in fact, modern governance, but the problem i have is that the experts are not just from one faction, of course i don't want to. do because as a rule, no name has been published yet, at least at the lower levels, and only these

names have actually been seen by everyone. there are all kinds of thoughts and tastes , and in fact, we should have an inclusive approach to this expert discussion, that is, experts are not just from one side, in fact, there is another point that comes to my mind, because in fact, your honorable guest last night also mentioned it. if it is an expert discussion, it doesn't matter if he is a shia expert or not zoroastrianism, judaism, or actually christianity, now these religions that we actually have have representatives in the parliament, and this is recognized in the structure of the islamic republic, then it doesn't matter if the expert is a woman or a man. an expert is an expert, in fact, with any taste, with any intention, with any religion, with any gender, an expert is an expert, so in fact, the use of experts

is very good, depending on the fact that this matter is actually realized. martyr raisi's government, who is in office now , will actually be suspended for a short time as we are the seventh we will have the 9th swearing-in ceremony, and after that, a week or two later, the cabinet will be introduced to the parliament, and after that , there will be a vote of confidence for two weeks, and after that, the ministers of the honorable president will be installed. mission yes , i want to say that there are experts in this government at the middle and upper levels of the government of martyr raeesi, who i think should be used. mr. sheikh , last night, mr. zarif said in an interview that he had a special news talk program that if a person follows the official religion. no matter the country, it does not get points, but the followers of other religions get points is scoring accepted by the elected president, mr. dr. mezikian, because he

insists on following the law in all his election programs, and it seems that this scoring is against both the constitution and the civil rights of your service. and of course , basically, it can also be an obstacle to merit selection. yes , i want to give you additional explanations. look at the government today. first, ask the question. the doctors agree with this point of view. nowadays , good governments, mr. hosseini, are governments that

include stable governments or governance. hi you can see that they accept more diversity , the point of view that actually exists is to try to have a higher diversity and inclusion in the selection of the country's managers, and this is really a right thing in today's world, especially in our country, why should we, for example, always . if presidents are elected from the central region of iran , i will give an example, or if they are elected from the same language, as if it were a dialect , how good it is that we all feel a sense of belonging , from baluchistan to azerbaijan, from khorasan to bushar, we are all people of one country, all of us are iran.

it is important for us how good it is. we are the governing body of the board let's form a government that has the color of all these. it is for this reason that the issue of diversity has been raised as a basic and effective point of view in the administration of the cabinet and the selection of colleagues for mr. medical doctor. mr. doctor, in fact , in the conversations you had during the elections, you mentioned that in some places, we did not have the breadth of opinion for the presence of some of the people of our country. confirming the logic of his argument about accepting this diversity, because i am an anthropologist myself, is good and in fact this diversity is important. in general, our iran means this diversity , which means that we actually have cultures that are next to culture.

there is no objection to the use of religions, in fact, religions that are officially accepted , followers of monotheistic religions, and we even have zoroastrians, which we actually recognize and have representatives in the parliament, and in fact, no one he doesn't deny it, but the problem of mr. dr. sheikh is that, in the capacity of advisors, i have advice and in fact i have advice. look, the logic is

that if diversity is only used, the country's work will not progress. it is a good thing to give such a share to sunnis, for example, to give such a share to such and such an ethnic group, and it is a good thing, but the question is whether this is enough, not the question should be efficiency. in fact, we can manage the country efficiently, we can manage our people's table . in fact, we can blame these problems on it. i don't reject it, but i mean, i said that i accept the logic of your argument it is well known that we are relatives of this rainbow , i mentioned that if we actually follow the efficiency and discussion of experts, that mr. medical doctor basically divides the discussion of experts and experts into pieces , it doesn't matter if the expert is baloch.