economy as i told you, we want to talk about the management of electricity consumption . as you know, since wednesday , we have almost seen the change in the working hours of the offices. it has been said that the management of electricity consumption and the protection of the lives of citizens , due to the sun that is shining strongly in your presence , we want to talk about these, if you are interested , stay with us until the end of this discussion. well, you are with the economy desk, we want to ask some important questions and get the answers how long does this holiday last and what? how

is this imbalance in electricity supposed to be managed? a very important point that we will address today in this program will be the discussion of productivity . where are we in terms of efficiency in the use of energy? what measures should be taken here in our studio, mr. yaqouti, the general manager of energy affairs and customers of the electricity industry are present, as well as mr. haghighi, the vice president of public and social management of the national productivity organization of iran, mr. jafarzadeh, who is also involved in online production. i would like to say hello to both guests of the program, before i start our discussion, let's go together to see the report prepared by my colleagues in the energy group of the radio and television news agency on the same topic that i presented to you. let's have an introduction, we will come back, we will start our conversation .

did you hear that we set a record yesterday? yes, yes, what a record , a record for consumption, but the temperature is so high that the red of the meteorological map turns black, to the extent that the minister of energy announced yesterday that the peak of consumption will be next week. we will beat it, it is too hot , it has never been this hot for a long time, it is very hot, sir, how hot it is , very hot. has increased so much that this year the average demand for electricity consumption has increased from 4 to 9%. most electricity consumption is now in the domestic sector. more than 55% of electricity consumption takes place in this sector, and coolers are the main actors of serially breaking the quorums of increasing electricity consumption demand. equivalent to the consumption of large countries like egypt , their total electricity consumption is about 32,300 megawatts. now the state of consumption of our coolers is more than these big countries. now, though, the power industry is in a state of flux

it is necessary to be fully prepared. it was necessary that the rapid response groups throughout the country should be on alert to act quickly in case of an accident in various sectors of the bakht industry, and people also cooperate in managing consumption. as far as i have seen , because i myself i am a repairman at my client's house . the temperature in kole is 24-25, but this amount of heat requires more effort to get through the summer . saving electricity can definitely be a requirement for all of us. the extra air conditioner should be turned off, the extra lights should be turned off. it is nearly 79,000 megawatts, which is expected to reach 77,500 megawatts with the reduction of the working hours of the offices and the cooperation of the people. sharifi gol

of radio and television news agency, well , we saw my colleague's report together, mr. qouti, please tell me that this change in office hours and closures was requested by the ministry of energy, because in the previous program we talked about, mr. rajab, mr. zabihi came from your colleagues in tawanir. saying that a request has not yet been issued from your side, due to the restrictions in electricity generation, consumption management, we want to change the working hours or see the closure. is there any other reason or not? well, in the name of god , i offer greetings to you and all dear viewers. well , one of the components is the consumption of offices. naturally, based on the minimum initial plans that were arranged, we will check the working hours of your offices and sooner rather than later. it starts and in fact until one o'clock, when the major part is effective in the cooling sector, the cooling load is effective in the sector as well. in fact, the lighting

, of course, what you are saying is for small children. yes, in the beginning, in fact, the maximum program that we had in the office department was based on this and it was appropriate. with that, of course, the smart device that we use, so that the consumption limit and in accordance with what has been notified to the offices is 40% during office hours, and they can consume 70% during non-office hours and 70% of consumption during office hours. it means that they can actually reduce their consumption by 30% during office hours and 70% during non-office hours, that is, in terms of making sure that all the cooling equipment and additional equipment are closed or closed tomorrow, but we thank you for your efforts. that

actually making a decision for this decision, but usually these types of decisions it is actually taken in the governorate area, and it seems to me that it is appropriate for the situation . earlier , the minister of health actually sent a message , if i'm not mistaken, about the dangers of solar radiation these days and its violet rays. i think molash actually reduced 100 to 1200 megawatts compared to the later hours. the watch. 10 onwards and i request that all the officials of the office buildings pay attention to turn off the extra equipment and, god willing, we will be able to have stable electricity. just today , wednesday, the working hours were earlier. thursday , the same thing happened to me today. today, when

the offices are almost closed from 10:11, how much could you reduce the country's electricity consumption? i actually checked a moment ago before i entered the studio. about 1,300 megawatts decreased compared to the same day last week . it started with a thousand megawatts, and now it is almost 1300 megawatts, in addition to the program we always had, it was able to help us in the early hours, and naturally, if i want to make an analogy , it is almost equivalent to 2 million subscribers that i can access, household subscribers who can get electricity. to ensure that this amount of decrease that happened, how much we increase in total. because during the last week, the officials of the ministry of energy announced many times that we have registered new quorums, this is compared to last year from 140 or other years. one is actually called power consumption, which is the power of a

concept, which is actually a moment. we call it power consumption , which is actually a concept multiplied by time. it also happened on wednesday, which has increased by almost 88% compared to last year, and i still expect new records to be set, considering the heat we have in the energy debate, well, the situation is different because energy is happening in the range compared to the whole. in the first four months, three percent of consumption and peak load were really affected these days. the main factor is the issue of cooling equipment that there are special solutions for this equipment, which, god willing, if necessary , we will bring forward the discussion of the departments in previous programs in several programs, despite the fact that the working hours of these departments have been changed, the officials of the ministry of energy have repeatedly announced that there are

still devices, ministry of housing, and organizations that, despite all the warnings , do not reduce their electricity consumption as much as they should. there is a reason why these devices and departments are so limited . you can see now the smart equipment that is actually used to measure the adjustability the amount of consumption is allowed, that is, it raises a virtual ceiling , and if it is consumed more than that, the device automatically shuts off. in general , you may have seen it in banks, if they do not comply, their electricity is usually cut off . yes, but if repeated. after two more times, their electricity will be cut until the end of the peak. you see, in the field, in fact, the public electricity or the offices or the same banks that serve, in any case , carry out activities that are of public benefit, which means that there are public discussions, like the municipality, very naturally. do very much indeed

the civil registration centers have to go to any special work or many other issues . we do it as much as possible so that it does not lead to a real power outage and lack of response to customers, but there have been cases , now maybe around 200 to 300 a day , especially on days when it is hot and such days , this number can be more, but from the collection of approximately 100,000 to 150,000 administrative subscribers that we have and being identified, naturally, some 20,300 can be accommodated, but in general, we see a change in our behavior, especially in discussions about migum bank and the conditions where most of the clients are present there, the mobilization of the departments is very cooperative.

let's impose restrictions on them, and their work should not be disturbed. the list of these departments will be given to the governorate . when this happens , it is usually sent periodically and once every 15 days . see when it was sent for the last period. these processes happen in the field of our electricity companies and naturally, they have a direct relationship, but because our controls are mainly intelligent and are done in real time, the list will be sent periodically and once every 15 days. and there were organizations whose consumption was so high that you personally went and cut off their electricity . look at the issue of offices, when we raise it, we are the offices of organizations, public non -governmental organizations, all those that include this, because we actually deal with them. up to the type of office and this. answering this question a bit it makes it difficult, that is, we are saying that this branch of electricity has increased, not that, for example, let's say that in fact

the tax affairs have increased, or the central bank or something, there is a branching set, which in this way, these questions may not be answered well in this sense. because, for example, in the past years, i remember that your colleagues in the ministry of energy would come and say, for example, these ministries, these organizations, these departments, which are always at the top of these. banks, airports, and municipalities, which were announced to be the most consuming offices, according to the consumption of two the 3,000 megabytes that you mentioned yourself have, and now you have a similar statistic that you can tell the viewers that these ministry of home affairs, these devices have more than the allowed electricity consumption that you have cut off their electricity in the last week . let me tell you, naturally, i said that after the course, it is almost the final report that these essays are related to which device and what is special and in. the sum of which device has the most cooperation and which device has the least cooperation

is actually produced, which means you have to let this time pass until it is done, but naturally, every branch that it is in the field of offices, it is not allowed to meet the limits that i said your service will face . very well, thank you very much. well, we discussed and decided to talk about productivity in your presence , mr. karampour. because our electricity consumption is very comparable, sometimes the energy consumption in the whole country is compared to other countries where we consume less, we consume more. what is the discussion of production, utilization and efficiency? also, in the consumption section, in what manner and form are we consuming compared to global standards, in the name of god, i offer greetings and courtesy to you and the viewers. dear sir , in order

to compare the energy efficiency of countries, we have an index called the energy intensity index. what does this index say? we consume energy, that is, the ratio of the country's total energy consumption to the gross domestic product, and unfortunately, we do not have a favorable situation in the country, that is, in comparison with other countries, well, we see that iran is almost among the last ranks in this regard, what does this mean in simple terms, it means that we are not using energy correctly, that is, in order to be able to create added value and actually create growth for our economy. let's do it. well, one of the entities that is used is energy. this means that compared to other countries, we

consume less energy. this total energy is the total energy. sometimes this index may be confused with the amount of consumption. we are very high consumers, maybe some countries are more than us their energy consumption should be more per capita. which is, this actually means that we are using the energy correctly and how much we are creating added value. we are actually using the energy that we have. this is the process of this issue. there is a time when you are at a point where your condition is not optimal. well, this is enough to worry about, but the process is another matter . you see, for example, one person may have a disease. but that is worrying

the trend may worry us more about the energy situation. the same trend is also worrying in the country, that is, if you compare the same trend with other countries, in the last 20 years , the world average has been decreasing, and we are increasing in this index, and if we want to continue on this path. let's say that the trends that we are facing now will increase drastically, although in the last two or three years , the slope of this trend and the growth of this path have decreased. thank you very much, mr. yaqouti, for providing us with energy in the past week now that we are talking to each other , we have had a problem in terms of the fact that all our power plants are working at their maximum capacity and whether we had an outage or not

. there are power plants in the sense that both their production and temperature are in the ceiling. influential is a factor that actually reduces the efficiency of the electrical device, that is , it affects everything from the power plant to the transformer and the lines, and naturally, in such a situation, we have a completely dynamic dynamic system. we will remove it when it gets tense, well , my incidents will increase and to tell you , i really thank my colleagues who are ready to serve you 24 hours a day. it is possible that these incidents that happen should be dealt with and solved in the least amount of time. in fact, we did not have any big problems or very big challenges that could not be solved easily. anyway,

we had an increase in consumption due to the temperature, but this does not mean that the subscribers are not cooperating. now, in the next discussions, if it is brought up, i will say that what is the basis of our statistics in the cooperation of the subscribers, but on the other hand, in the discussion of thermal power plants, the colleagues in the network department are ready to serve all the time, and i don't think it is a very special problem that lead to a big challenge for electricity supply, there are scattered reports in different cities, even the capital city of tehran , where we are talking about, is that it happens at different hours, sometimes in different areas , the reason is that you are planned whether you do this or not is the problem of the accident is there any pressure on the area where these things happen? we don't have blackouts on a large scale, that is, our programs are completely managed, but naturally i say that this network

is a network that can be affected at any moment and naturally when with the temperature is high, there are more incidents, but i have this hope and i give it to all customers that in the least time, these blackouts will be fixed . these are the phenomena that mainly occur, and it should be expected that these conditions will increase in the field of heat , that is, in this one. this is possible in the next two days if the events increase, look, i say, naturally , the network is a very network, so to speak, we say the power network is the largest dynamic system made by mankind, that is, with the smallest changes of switching one. it doesn't come in. all these actually have effects on each other and can actually be effective, but temperature naturally affects the efficiency and reduction of the performance of electrical equipment, and it can actually affect these days in the field of electricity consumption management with big industry, first of all, please tell me

how electricity consumption is divided in offices , domestic use, agricultural industry, and how it is divided. so far today, as we are talking to each other , naturally, if we want to make a big classification , we have two categories of subscribers, one is the big industry, and the regional power companies are actually responsible for their energy supply, that is, the subscribers of the power companies. there are regional ones and the second category is the subscribers who are so called connected to the explanation network and the downstream network is that our explanation companies are responsible for providing proper energy services to these subscribers. they are in charge, in fact, this group that i told you about, if we want to talk about their share in energy, naturally, it is a big industry. we allocate about 10,000 megawatts of final consumption copper to them. enter in the field of explanation . in the field of explanation , i have about 11,000 megawatts in the field of explanation. in the industrial sector

, i have about 8,000 megawatts in the agricultural sector . and our other consumptions are about 7 thousand and in the sector, in fact, ordinary subscribers, other domestic subscribers, now, let me mention it more, it is 32 thousand megawatts , which is actually a domestic consumption. the power plant and other equipment that is happening will reach the same 70,000 that is mentioned, the 79,000 that is mentioned, in fact, these are the consumption needs and the formation of the post between the final consumption and actually the consumption that we call the consumption needs , there is a gap that is dedicated to the internal consumption of network losses and other components affecting your consumption in the field of electricity. in the week of the body change, i think in mashhad or in one of the north and south khorasan, this period has been like two

days, or in some industrial networks , it has increased from one day to two days. can you tell me the statistics for the viewers? yes, i will tell you. we have a general understanding and general planning that we coordinated with the ministry anyway, because in fact sandagra can actually fulfill their obligations. what does it mean to perform the body in relation to large subscribers on 35 in warning conditions and 55 in emergency conditions? let's see the situation in reality. let's assume that from june when our programs start, in the initial situation , the load will not be that high . it will be seen according to the set of capacities that we have, and how much of their own load they have to manage. and in fact, at night time, they are allowed to use it unlimitedly and get a lack

of energy that is not consumed during the day during the peak hours of the night, transferring the body to the midnight hours. for example, from 12:00 p.m., it starts at 11:00 p.m. until 8:00 p.m. yes, i would like to ask you to say a little bit more in the area of ​​industrial estates. larger industries that are located outside of industrial towns will be asked one day to switch off during the normal days of the week and transfer this consumption to a holiday, which means that they will be closed on monday instead of friday. transfer to friday, and in fact, this is the situation , in which i had a warning and an emergency. in fact, the emergency is a big industry until 55. please cooperate that the days of july and august are actually covered by the big industry, but they can still

use it at night, but in times of emergency , it may not reach 10 days, like the days we are in now, according to the capacity of the industry, please. we ask them to cooperate with us, and naturally, with the adjustment of the temperature that happens , their cooperation program is adjusted according to the conditions that the industry considers and its needs, which means it decreases, and in the cool months of the year, in fact , there are opportunities for them to use. to be able to provide the energy they need, maybe this is the point it has been two days for the industry, which means 55 is half a day. in fact, if i want to calculate it, it is half a day, and we hope that naturally , based on the weather, they will tell us by monday that the conditions are somewhat stable. we hope that after this, in fact, the conditions can be adjusted as well as the opportunity and this is a point of service to you. the industry has a characteristic that rain can be moved, for example

, its energy can be used for production, it can be used from one day to another, from one hour to another, and even from one season to another. in fact, it should be transferred and we need it during the year, in fact, it is consumed by the industry we will definitely provide it, thank you mr. karampour, we are also talking about the industry, you mentioned that, of course, energy consumption is high, what is the reason why we are consuming energy in this way , whether it is in industry or at home in different sectors ? you see the same pattern that he said, we have energy in other energy sectors as well as in other types of energy, that is, in our gas consumption , it is almost the same, we see the same ratio, maybe if it is limited in winter and cold season, yes, in the cold season again with gas discussions. and this is how we face one of the points that seems to be very important and possible we must pay attention to this mistake, we must see that in fact a pattern has been formed that

encourages us to consume more. and who has more range, the one who consumes more, and this should be corrected in such a way that someone has more range who consumes less, and in order to move from this path to a model that we are currently facing. let's find out that the one who consumes less will be the winner , consumes better. well, we must change the rules and regulations, we must change the pattern of consumption. what is the consumption pattern? does it change? mere culturalization and advice will not fix this. our pricing system should be changed. until this changes in such a way that the winner is the one who uses it better and uses it more optimally, the atmosphere of the country will continue in this way day by day. i mentioned in the previous section. our trend

is an increasing trend. why is the trend increasing? because our consumption pattern is a wrong pattern so that this pattern does not change. for example, we can see that coolers have recently come , but now the price is different and the electricity consumption is less . how should this be a cheap consumer for me , instead of a cooler? well, there are many ways, there are many options , there are many issues that can be discussed he played a role. well, if we don't have options for any reason at the moment with any policy, then we have to have options besides this, one of which you mentioned is the issue of water coolers. those

estimates are such that there are nearly 30 million water coolers in the whole country and they are major these water coolers, in fact, their motors are old motors, which are old induction motors, and the consumption of this cooler and these motors is approximately 700 kilowatts per year.

with what motivation does the consumer want to do this? here, in fact, an actor is needed . actors are needed who can actually create a system and a native, so that the consumer will actually find this issue attractive to the consumer. we currently have actors in the country who can provide capital, such as in fact, the innovation prosperity fund, which is ready for this right now, has announced that we have other players who produce these engines , like our producers, and we have another player, like our scientific deputy, who can facilitate this space as well as the provinces. we are our other actors who can facilitate the opening of the space in a way

that the necessary facilities are. may these resources, which are necessary for our current water coolers to be modified , be used to provide capital for bial dc motors, one of the important actors of the budget program organization, we did not say that it is both the budget program organization and the ministry. there is energy, why? well , how will the ministry of energy get this return for the investor when it can actually issue a savings certificate , which happened just a while ago in the gas sector, yes , exactly a few years ago, one and one of our provinces that the ministry oil and the ministry of oil, yes, oil savings certificates should be issued and that canvas can be defined in a way that the actors can enter this game in a way that we can actually move in the direction that the consumption pattern will be reformed and we will be more productive. increase in the field of energy.