a television and news network that accompanies us in this conversation like last night. as you have seen and heard in the news, the proposed cabinet of doctors for the 14th government was presented to the islamic council, and the process of examining the competence and vote of confidence of the proposed ministers will begin at 8:00 am on saturday at the house of the nation. abdul naser hemmati, proposed minister of economy. let us see an introduction from him. tonight's program will be dedicated to examining his record as the proposed minister of economy. the proposed minister of economic affairs and finance, mr. abdulnaser hemmati, has a doctorate in economics from tehran university. in the record mr. hemti's work can be seen in these responsibilities. political deputy of broadcasting organization from 1368 to 1373, chairman. the head of central insurance from 2013 to

2015, the ceo of sina bank from 2015 to 2013, the ceo of melli bank from 2013 to 2015, the head of central insurance from 2015 to 2017, and the head of central bank from 2015. mr. dr. mohsen zangineh, another member of the program , budget, and calculations commission of the islamic council , is our guest in the studio . i greet both of them, and of course we will start this conversation on the news network. rahman al-rahim, i am at your service and all my dear people . i am polite. inshallah

, we will have a good conversation tonight. also, in the presence of mr. dr. who is one of our very good colleagues, mr. dr. qavami, you are very welcome to the studio of wijeh, in the name of allah, rahman al-rahim, i am at your service. dear people of iran, i say hello and good night, and i also thank sed and vasima that in order to increase knowledge more and show that they have correct and accurate criticism of the cabinet . they are actually preparing. we hope that, god willing, it will help to form a powerful government in the province should be presented government week, and also to my dear brother mr. dr. zanganeh, who is present in this conversation, and thank you very much to ms. sarkar, allow me to say goodbye to the viewers of one sima channel by introducing the guests and of course the topic that we have announced, and invite me to start this conversation. follow us on the news network.

thank you very much for being with us . tonight's special news discussion is dedicated to the review of the work record and of course the plans of mr. hemti as the proposed minister of the ministry of economy, with the presence of one representative in favor and one against. i hope you plan. and us please accompany me, mr. dr. qavami. today, mr. hemmati is a guest of the program and budget commission. what matters were mentioned and what topics were discussed

. the third minister who came to the commission today, mr. dr. hemti , was the minister proposed by the 14th government for the position of the ministry of economic affairs and finance . what did you say, mr. dr. hemti? one of the important slides the important points raised in the commission are actually economic growth. the economic growth from 1335 to 1403 has two characteristics, one is low economic growth and two is volatile, which means that it actually shows that we are in an era of oil boom.

has increased and at a time when the conditions for the sale of oil are changed for various reasons, including sanctions. which has become difficult, well, economic growth has decreased, of course, a very important factor in economic growth that has been taken into consideration, in fact, is the productivity of iran's economy , which is very low, and the targeting in the 7th plan is that we have an average growth of 88 let's provide one third of it through productivity and the rest from other sources from economic growth, which is one of those things. after all , it is the foreign investments that should be done, except for the programs that are now the 7th plan , the other programs of mr. hemti's development , their own documented plans, the principles on which they presented their own plan was the resistance economy , the 7th plan was the constitution, and other the

upstream documents are so-called important, because after all, the ministry of economic affairs and finance is a so-called big ministry that serves the dear people, alhamdulillah in this one. on the day when we were at the service of the ministers , there was a very good atmosphere in the parliament, a very friendly atmosphere and discussions, conversations, criticisms

were held in a very intimate atmosphere. in the assembly there is really help for mr. medzikian, as this was a request that the supreme leader of the revolution asked us to take, so i would like to offer an interactive approach. now, mr. doctor also confirms that today was a very good atmosphere, even the representatives who are sometimes present in the commissions. having serious critics, but space is space it was interactive, and if we criticize, we don't want to repeat the experience of the previous governments, when we give a vote of confidence to a minister as an assistant to the president, then he goes to the government, after a year or two , the government itself kicks him off the so-called train. the cabinet wants to implement it, so really look at the expert's review, just like you said, we

need to review his performance for an important minister like the minister of economy before we want to look at his future plans , that is, i am thinking of four areas. to criticize any minister, we must put one performance on the agenda his expertise is now in the field of economics, insurance banks, etc. , which i would like to say. second, i would like to say one thing. from now on , we are taking the time to present the opinions to the viewers with justice, whether from a critical point of view or from a companion point of view. yes , thank you very much. second , the minister's political and social activism. no matter what his specialty is, the minister will be a political official from tomorrow. what kind of political activism does he want to have? . as well as

you said that mr. dr. hemti had two important responsibilities, one was the head of the central bank from august 1997 to june 1400. and one of them has 10 years of responsibility for central insurance in their portfolio. of course , i must say here that they are really one of the prominent and educated personalities in the field of economics, but to check their performance, i will only mention the indicators from 2017 to 1400 for now. we will check the insurance together later. i will tell you the economic indicators of these three years very quickly . he chose the ones closest to the present. yes , from 1997 to 1400, which was his most important responsibility. the inflation index went from 24 at the end of his tenure to about 55, which of course is different, for example, the

point-to-point inflation of the producer price index went from 33 and 8 to 133. the same 12-month inflation for consumer goods and services at the end of his tenure was 518, which means we had the highest inflation at the end of his tenure, which, of course , unfortunately lasted for one or two years, and recently we had a decrease in it. the second is liquidity growth. unfortunately, in two years during his tenure, the liquidity went from 20.5/10% to nearly 40% at the end. of course, some central bank statistics up to 45 at the end of mr. rouhani's government, he announced that this figure will be in. during the next 3 years, it reached nearly 23 to 24 percent now. one

minute, doctor, another discussion is the growth of the monetary base, which unfortunately, during this 3-year period , the monetary base growth has increased from about 2 percent to more than 32. the exchange rate of the dollar is important for us, and this is also from 8,500 tomans to 27,500 tomans at the end. any index , for example, housing rental price index from 10 at the time of being in the insurance industry, trying to

finally create a space for private insurances and having a successful performance in the insurance sector, which is now inflation was discussed. i am referring to inflation. you see , inflation has ups and downs in iran's economy. almost from the first period of sanctions, which started in 2011, we saw an increase in prices and because of the cruel sanctions imposed by the west he imposed it on us, and then when the next government came to power , when dr. tayebnia was the minister of economy, who is now helping in the economic team of the government , and dr. mezikian is an excellent advisor, then we were in the parliament and the effort was to change. that increasing trend of inflation decreased until 2017, in such a way that we almost reached single-digit inflation

again, since 2017, due to trump's unilateral withdrawal from the jcpoa, many restrictions have been imposed on the country's economy, and inflation has gone its own upward path . from this 20% , it increased to 40%, which means that the long-term average inflation is twice its long-term period, and of course, finally , we have ups and downs in the inflation debate in those years until the beginning of the martyr raeesi government, which is almost in me as in both stages in the ministry of economy as. i was the deputy minister of economy i would like to point out that from shahrivar, when the government

of shahid raisi actually started work , inflation started to decline until march, but the inflations were high, that is, high inflation prevailed in the economy until finally, the process of removing the the preferred term of 420 happened, and in fact , the inflation went up again until almost june and finally reached a high number. the ones that happened, the openings that were done and finally the activities that it has been done, let it be said that it is still so, in fact, we are with inflation, and in fact, this is a challenge in the economy, that we relate this to, for example, the performance, suppose that the chairman of

the central bank, you know that finally the policies of the central bank it follows money, and at that time, the central bank had reform policies to control inflation, that is, if in fact, if there was resistance, because i was the ministry of economy at that time , i would like to say that there was actually a challenge between the banks at that time. the central government and the ministry of economy discussed the control of the balance sheet, of course, it was a plan at that time, mr. dr. hemti had a society to control the balance sheet, which of course changed now to control some balance sheet, that is, what is being implemented now, which has led to the so-called many restrictions, which finally do not allow the balance sheet of the banks to a certain extent. to grow and the program that mr. hemti was following at that time was different, so i want to say that this factor

is actually related to the exit from jcpoa. he has again created the conditions for the so-called price index. finally , mr. hemti has a look at today's economic issues. in the position of minister of economy, he has actually been introduced to the parliament, which is actually one of the strong points that has been noticed in the 14th government is the coordination of the economic team, not the commander.

the government in the fourteenth government. if the goal setting that is finally in the 7th plan can be achieved, because the government is focused on finally pursuing the goals of the 7th plan, it should happen that at the end of the 7th plan, inflation will be single digit, and from that side, finally, the set of monetary and financial policies to somehow these will complement each other so that we can

achieve the goals of the 7th plan if we have the time we said that a full discussion should take place. it will be the same in your case, mr. zangareh , do you agree with the words of dr. qavami? see, mr. dr. qavami, they know that in the program , you can answer any of the questions wherever you see fit . mr. dr. qavami himself is specialized in studying economics and he knows that by the way, the central bank is in charge of inflation control in the country, so we should say that he is the head of the central bank and not the minister of economy. now let him become the minister of economy and see what will be done in the seventh plan in the article if don't get me wrong, article 10 or article 10, i think we emphasized there that the central bank is in charge of the so-called policies to protect both the value of the national currency and

inflation . our powers above the law were also given to them. in the year when mr. hemti happened to be a so-called 40 years after the revolution, it is almost unique, that is , all

four and twenty. well, regarding four and twenty, i am reading the interview of mr. saleh abadi, the head of the central bank. at the time he was the ceo of one of the country's banks, he said that the government had only 4 billion dollars in indirect income in 2019. did you finance 4.200 billion dollars, or 6 billion dollars that we interviewed at that time and made it public, and mr. hemti came and defended this, that it is not the case, mr. salabadi says 6 billion dollars per year. 99 providing through the semi-market and so on, which is one of the monetary bases , that is, the central bank

has also increased the monetary base. especially the so-called dealing with our delinquent banks during the time of mr. hemti or the tools that were at their disposal, we so -called review. let's see that these events did not happen. the next point is that today mr. hemti, whom we were serving in the commission, presented a report , which was presented as a powerpoint at the hands of the representatives, almost in the diagrams that draw the diagrams on the basis of entering the jcpoa , exiting the jcpoa. mr. trump, the continuation of the sanctions is a divided chart, so what does this mean? this means that in the next four years, if we are in the service of mr. hemmati, all issues will be resolved again , and now either ms. haris or mr. nastallah will be the indicators.

it shows that in the period when we come to divide the sanctions, let's say this happened, let the word be concluded, i don't think this is very good, mr. doctor, you see, the friends of the debates, mr. zarif himself believed that during the era of mr. raisi, nine tons of sanctions were not reduced. rather, the number and type of sanctions have been increased. we accept mr. zarif's words. now the question is that the sanctions that have not been lifted are written in mr. hemti's graph as the continuation of sanctions, but i was just reading the report of the ministry of oil today. fourth, in july, one million and 700 thousand average barrels we sold oil per day, which with gas condensate is 1,800,000 barrels, and almost

monthly we were able to collect our oil revenues of more than two tenths of a billion dollars. i will not criticize, i will say , mr. doctor. either in the field of liquidity, my last sentence or in the field of liquidity where friends believe that liquidity and the monetary base are the most important factors of inflation. what does it have to do with sanctions? we believe that our liquidity growth will reach 42 or 43 at the end of the year, mr. hemti. these are the two very important points you mentioned, mr. dr. qavani . these are the factors that we believe

, mr. hemti. what they presented to us was nothing but general words. now they have to say that for the next 4 years, are they going to continue the same previous policies ? you can see about the scope of the policy, whether an economy minister, the economic leader of the country, has a plan or not, mr. no. presenting a program, but not a program for all discussions, that's all now

i have a question from mr. dr. zanganeh , what was the figure i put in the budget last year for the provision of basic goods and how much has been achieved in practice. how much has been achieved in practice ? so to speak, these few years that were actually managed by the honorable chairman of the central bank, which actually brought us back to that vicious cycle

of 420. we went and got supplies, well, we couldn't from oil, or we went to the resources of the national development fund, which in fact , these resources are to be transformed into wealth that generates wealth to help the private sector to create employment is for the creation of new companies, which is actually the most important issue of the people. one of the most important issues of the people is unemployment or going to use the resources of the central bank , which actually has an effect on

the production of the so-called cash. gay and inflation, to keep the inflation at this average of 40%. in fact, the view is whether we should control this low price or not, we should control the high price. let's control the price from above so that we can do this, so to speak, and the distance between the preferred price and the market price should be why are we exporters today? jan pistachio , we exporters of carpets, we once had a market of one billion dollars in the export of carpets, why today it has reached less than 100 million dollars, why should we face many restrictions and problems in exporting pistachios? our carpet maker has to supply the raw material at the prices of, for example, 60,000 tomans, and then he has to bring the export width and sell it at the price of, let's say, 44,000 tomans. whether

he will find an incentive for this or not , imports are encouraged. now there are those who are in clothes imports are going to show that they are using these preferential lands. i want to say that this is not a general discussion. by the way, one of the clear plans of the 14th government is to reduce the rent gap. let's see how far we are now. assume that the width is close to 20 billion dollars. then what is the price of the goods that people consume at their table? at least 60 thousand tomans. we created it. i should read mr. hemti's opinion, his opinion is not mine his opinion happened to be brought up today in the commission , your excellency. now, because of the problem you had

, the society pointed out that in fact, the economic team could not have a coherent voice and a vision in the government, which is looking for preferential treatment. on the face of the price, for example, this economic polyphony in the government is the cause of rent and corruption, and these currents, after all , all kinds of events that have happened in the so-called past have soured the palate of the nation, and finally had a negative effect on unemployment and inflation . distributed in finally, the government must be able to achieve its goals make the program come true. the goal of the program is that we can achieve high economic growth with proper foreign investment, we can reduce the unemployment rate. i would like to say one thing, mr. dr. zanganeh, because it has become descriptive, people do not understand anything about the program. let's talk, he found the program's debate mode, i left it at

the disposal of friends to talk anywhere. no, wherever you see a point that is important and helps clarify public opinion at that moment, please see because people are viewers and they like to know the representatives. with what sensitivity and precision do they do it? i really didn't want the atmosphere of the debate to be like this , but what does mr. hemti's name mean when it comes? it means the inflation of 55, which means the collapse of the boost and the people's misery, which means the increase in rents to the percentage that i mentioned, and his arrival happens to be the economic commander of the government, because the minister of economy is the economic commander. we must have a voice and a commander in the government team. if we don't have it, it means that the first problem should be all ministries, which you shouldn't

say. the constitution governs the economy minister . the country's economy is one of the problems of the previous government, that's why i chose the head of the budget program organization. ministers d