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[ cheers and applause ] ♪ >> jimmy: thank you. very nice. very kind. hi, everybody. i'm jimmy, i am the host of the show. thank you for watching. thank you for joining us here in the united states of america, where you know what, they say we're slipping here. they say we don't have the same vitality we used to. but guess what? just when they start to count us out, we get on our feet and back on top. that's why i'm so pleased to announce that cases of syphilis in the united states have skyrocketed. [ laughter ] to the highest numbers since the 1950s. that's right. [ cheers and applause ] small victory. syphilis -- you know what syphilis is, guillermo? >> guillermo: yes, it's a disease that you get with -- having sex. [ laughter ] >> jimmy: yeah. it's a bacterial disease, and guillermo described it properly. it can lead to paralysis,

hearing loss, dementia, and even believing you're still president three years after you aren't. [ cheers and applause ] so -- dangerous. so don't get it. in washington today, they held the annual "lambasting of the social media ceos" event. they do this just about every year. the senate judiciary committee drags the heads of facebook and tiktok and whatnot into their chambers, and they yell at them on c-span. they make a big show, and then send them on their way. with no penalties whatsoever. most of these senators are so old, they don't know how to work their garage door openers. [ laughter ] but they're talking tech with these giants of the industry. it doesn't stop people like senator kennedy of louisiana from pontificating about snapchat. >> i see you hiding down there. what does yada, yada, yada mean? >> i'm not familiar with the term, senator. >> very uncool. [ laughter ]

>> jimmy: and that is a dude who knows cool. [ laughter ] [ applause ] the idea was, and don't get me wrong, it's important -- the idea was they were there to protect children from the many horrors they're subject to on social media. but the bozos who are supposed to be doing the protecting are obviously completely out of their element. >> there was a report recently that compared hashtags on instagram to hashtags on tic-tac. tiktok. [ laughter ] >> jimmy: oh, ted, you blundering squid penis, you. [ laughter ] just to be clear, tiktok is the social media app. tic-tac is what the guy sitting next to your fish breath keeps begging you to chew. [ laughter ] at one point, senator hawley, from the great state of indignation berated mark zuckerberg. and i have to admit, it was kind of fun to see a guy who is worth $140 billion trying to crawl into his shell. >> there's families of victims

here today. have you apologized to the victims? >> i -- >> would you like to do so now? >> well -- >> they're here, you're on national television, would you like now to apologize to the victims who have been harmed by your product? show them the pictures. would you like to apologize for what you've done to these good people? >> i -- i'm sorry for what you've all gone through. no one should have to go through the things that your families have suffered. and this is why we invest so much and are going to continue doing industry-leading efforts to make sure that no one has to go through the types of things that your families have had to suffer. >> jimmy: now can i go back to wind surfing at my macadamia farm? [ laughter ] it's a level of sincerity you usually can only get on chatgpt. [ laughter ] boy, mark zuckerberg. in new york, a ruling is expected any day now on how much donald trump will have to shell out for the multi-million dollar fraud case. [ cheers and applause ] he could be on the hook for

$370 million, possibly more. last week, of course, he was told to pay $84 million. which means somebody's probably about to release a whole new batch of nft trading cards. [ laughter ] it's very boss that i believe in addition to the fine, trump would be forced to stop doing business in new york. which you'd think getting caught running a fake university would have triggered that penalty already. [ laughter ] trump's legal bills are enormous. and his dummies -- i mean his donors are paying for it. [ laughter ] according to "the new york times," trump has used about $50 million worth of campaign contributions to cover his legal fees. which is -- you know how much jimmy carter spent in legal fees his whole post-presidency? $45.18. [ laughter ] in the meantime, trump is focused on this battle, a battle against taylor swift. trump's campaign team has been

working on ways to turn their culture warriors against taylor swift in the event she decides to endorse joe biden. so, if you're a republican, i guess enjoy her music while you still can, before the ayatollah complaini declares a fatwa. a very fatwa. [ applause ] i mentioned last night,this bananas conspiracy idea the nuts have cooked up that says taylor swift and company rigged the nfl playoffs as part of some evil plan to re-elect joe biden. and trump is taking it personally. don-ye west has been telling people -- [ laughter ] saying, "i'm more popular than taylor swift, and my fans are more committed than hers." which i have to say, if taylor swift told her fans to storm the capitol on january 6th? they would have succeeded. [ laughter ] they would be running the country right now. [ applause ] they would not have stopped to -- and why is he even thinking like this? he is not running against taylor swift! [ laughter ] and who is he kidding? he's more popular? if donald trump had a rally at sofi stadium here in la, they would still have enough empty

seats to also hold a taylor swift concert. [ laughter ] and unlike your rallies, her tickets aren't free. people paid hundreds and even thousands of dollars to see her. and that's just here in america. how's your popularity in tokyo? and singapore? how's your popularity in gelsenkirchen, germany? because she's doing three nights at a soccer stadium there that holds over 62,000 people even though no one has ever heard of gelsenkirchen, germany. [ laughter ] it might not even exist. taylor swift is so popular, people want to watch her watching a football game. [ laughter ] the truth is, you're not even the most popular donald. that's still a cartoon duck -- [ laughter ] with a speech impediment and no pants on. [ applause ] this fight he is about to pick with taylor swift, this might be what does it. it won't be january 6th. it won't be the election fraud or the sexual assault or dancing with jeffrey epstein or even fathering don jr. [ laughter ] what's finally going to bring down donald trump will be an army of pissed-off swifties.

[ cheers and applause ] and you know, if he wasn't so jealous, maybe he might even enjoy taylor's music. so many of her songs seem like they were written specifically for him. don't blame me, you need to calm down, is it over now, now that we don't talk, karma, red, we are never, ever getting back together. [ laughter ] you're on your own, kid, anti-hero, and of course, his all-time favorite, which is me. [ cheers and applause ] yeah. this is interesting. it shouldn't have been interesting. it turned out to be interesting. elmo from "sesame street" posted the following question on twitter. "elmo is just checking in! how is everybody doing?" and for whatever reason everybody wanted elmo to know how they were doing. the tweet has more than 180 million views and tens of thousands of responses.

people started posting deeply personal replies. it's incredible. people won't talk to their husbands and wives. [ laughter ] they'll spill their guts to the first muppet who tweets. [ laughter ] even president biden responded. he, or someone in his office, who knows how to use the phone, wrote -- "i know how hard it is some days to sweep the clouds away and get to sunnier days. our friend elmo is right. we have to be there for each other, offer our help to a neighbor in need, and above all else, ask for help when we need it. even though it's hard, you're never alone." first of all, it's beautiful. also, it means the president has entered the "speaking sincerely to puppets" stage of his golden years. [ laughter ] i don't know what happened. isn't elmo 3? what is he doing on twitter in the first place? where are his parents? [ laughter ] and then all the "sesame street" characters chimed in. bert chimed in. bert wrote -- "i'm here if you ever need a shoulder to lean on. i'll make us both a warm cup of tea." no, he won't. i know bert. i grew up with bert. he's not making anybody a cup of tea. [ laughter ] ernie probably got on his phone and tweeted it to screw with

him. all the "sesame street" characters got involved. even oscar, this was very sweet. oscar wrote, "f-off." [ laughter and applause ] i always liked oscar the best. but the guy, or kid or monster, or whatever who started this was elmo. so i thought it might be nice, since he checked in with us, to check in with elmo just to see how he's doing after all of this. elmo? can we get somebody to look in on -- oh my god. oh my god. please, send in the emt, will you? oh, there we go, okay, great. he should be fine. [ applause ] i tell you what, i remember a day when all that little freak wanted was to be tickled. [ laughter ] you know, we do our show right smack in the middle of hollywood boulevard, which is a magnet for tourists from all over the world. with that said, from time to time we like to play a game

called "foreigner or not?" [ cheers and applause ] guillermo is not, a full-fledged american citizen out on hollywood boulevard. how is it out there? it's warm, right? >> guillermo: yes, jimmy, it's very warm, it's nice. >> jimmy: it's nice. it was freezing cold ten days ago, then raining all the time, now it's warm. >> guillermo: it's beautiful. >> jimmy: what do you make of that, guillermo? >> guillermo: i don't know, crazy weather, jimmy. >> jimmy: yeah. all right. i heard you had a couple of drinks tonight, is that true? >> guillermo: i did, jimmy. almost three shots of tequila. >> jimmy: oh. >> guillermo: yes. >> jimmy: almost three? you decided at 2 3/4? you said, you know what i gotta be on? >> guillermo: i'll save a little one for next, after the show. >> jimmy: you know how the game works. we meet a pedestrian. we've instructed them not to speak. using nothing more than my keen powers of observation, i will attempt to suss out if that person is a foreigner or not. let's meet our first visitor.

guillermo, bring in our first visitor. again, this gentleman is not allowed to speak, and he is -- you look very menacing with your arm behind your back like that. but he is -- he's got a flag that will indicate what country he is from. what's your name? okay, so he can't -- either he doesn't understand anything i'm saying, or he's following the rules very closely. you do look like a human joann fabric store. [ laughter ] okay, he does understand english. he seems to know the joann fabric reference. so -- oh my gosh. oh, wait a minute. holy moly. i don't know if you're from this planet, to be honest. [ laughter ] okay. i'm going to say you are not a foreigner. what is it? >> i'm from rottinggame in the uk. >> jimmy: you're waving that flag so hard, i can't see it.

are you here on vacation? >> i'm here because my partner and colleague have been nominated for a grammy. >> jimmy: is that true? >> yes. [ cheers and applause ] a bad called dry cleaning. >> jimmy: what is that big clump of metal you have down there -- yes. >> it's all different key rings, yeah, from different places. >> jimmy: yet no keys? >> one key from where we're staying. >> jimmy: okay. [ laughter ] all right. well, you stumped me. we have a little gift for you. welcome to our country, and guillermo has for you an american apple pie. [ cheers and applause ] have you had one of those? >> thank you very much. thank you. >> jimmy: thank you for playing. all right. let's see if i can get back on track here. all right. our next -- all right. hi, there. okay, again, she's following the rules or she doesn't understand what i'm saying. okay, all right. so we have a young lady here, looks to be about late 20s, probably? mid-20s? hm?

[ laughter ] dressed in oatmeal from head to toe. [ laughter ] oh -- okay. now, hold on a second. go back down for a moment. okay, now -- all right. [ laughter ] i'm thinking, if you're from l.a., you would know not to wear sandals on hollywood boulevard. [ laughter ] okay? that's a -- all right, all right. i am going to say -- that you are not a foreigner. >> i'm a foreigner. >> jimmy: oh. where are you from? what is that? is that a real flag, or did you make it up? >> no, i'm from namibia. >> jimmy: you're from namibia? >> yes. >> jimmy: i'm going to have to see some identification. [ laughter ] what do you do for work in namibia? >> i'm actually a student. >> jimmy: you are. what are you studying? >> education. >> jimmy: okay. we're going to get you a pie and some shoes. [ laughter ] because you cannot walk around -- you're going to get a

hyperdermic needle in there. >> thank you. [ cheers and applause ] >> jimmy: all right. thank you for playing. i don't like -- you know i don't like when i lose, i've got to get one. all right. all right. all right. now -- oh, now i'm hoping this guy is not one of us. [ laughter ] all right. i know where you're from. you're from 2007. [ laughter ] [ applause ] when the fall out boy grows up to be a fall out man. [ laughter ] all right, wow. okay. the shoes are pretty regular. pants, regular. tattoos could be anything. oh, he's got a paramour tattoo, okay. all right. i'm going to say you're an american. are you? >> you are correct, i'm an american. >> jimmy: you are american! [ cheers and applause ] where are you from? >> east l.a. >> jimmy: you're from east l.a.? >> yep.

>> jimmy: all right. well, go back there. [ laughter ] >> guillermo: let me give you a prize. >> jimmy: no, no. thank you for playing. even though you've had one before, we got you a delicious, freshly bought apple pie. [ cheers and applause ] thank you so much. >> thank you. >> jimmy: playing "foreigner or not?" we have a fun show tonight. from cnn, jake tapper is here. we've got music from train with reo speedwagon. and we'll be right back with sam reo speedwagon. and we'lloh, here comes with sam jackson, the bread guy.d! ugh, don't you ever get sick of bread? -how dare you? -come on. if you saved nearly $750 like this, imagine what we could splurge on. oh, like sourdough. no, the good stuff, like blueberries. -uh, and strawberries? -exactly. raspberries, blackberries, cranberries, elderberries, boysenberries... okay, we don't need to name all the berries. ...goji berries, halle berry. -i'm just kidding. -mm-hmm.

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together this summer starting july 8th. music from train and reo speedwagon. [ cheers and applause ] which i am calling wagontrain, and i don't know why they aren't. tomorrow night, the cast of "dune: part two." timothy chalamet, zendaya, austin butler, and florence pugh will be here. with music from benson boone. please join us for that. [ cheers and applause ] our first guest is a one-of-a-kind movie star, he is beloved all around the world. he is part of the all-star cast of "argylle," which opens in theaters friday. please welcome samuel l. jackson. [ cheers and applause ] ♪ >> how great is that? thank all so much. thank you. [ cheers ]

>> jimmy: i always look forward to seeing you. when i see your name on the list of the shows i think, oh, this is good. i'm glad you're here. >> we always have good times. >> jimmy: we always do have fun. i feel you can't go anywhere in the world and not be recognized, right? >> uh -- depends. >> jimmy: depends? are there places they don't know you? >> you know, when covid was happening, that was the best for me in a way. be with earvin, everybody knows him. >> he will take a picture with the worst person on the planet. earvin magic johnson. you go on vacation every summer without me. >> you weren't there? >> jimmy: i was not there. >> you're always in the pictures. [ laughter ] >> jimmy: always in the pictures, never on the vacation. sadly. and you're saying -- because earvin did mention that he -- he is very gregarious. i remember meeting him when i was a teenager at the airport. he stopped and talked to me in the middle of the street at l.a.x. >> jimmy: of course.

in the crosswalk. he stopped and talked to me for a while. >> that's who he is. >> jimmy: i would imagine that's annoying when you're on vacation? >> not at all. well, during covid, i could have my hat, my sunglasses, and my mask on, and i pretended to be security. [ laughter ] >> jimmy: oh! >> i would actually take pictures for other people with him. [ laughter ] >> jimmy: have you done that? have people handed you their phones? >> oh, all the time. >> jimmy: really? oh, that's great. >> and we have another friend that travels with us, john palmer. he's black and bald. so they think he's me. [ laughter ] so he signs a lot of autographs and takes a lot of pictures too. >> jimmy: not that you need ideas, but you know it would be fun if you hit that thing so it turns the camera around and you take a picture of yourself and they find it on their camera later. >> i'm going to do that. >> jimmy: that would be fun. when you do a movie, make a movie, then it is shown in another country. they have particular voice actors who will do your voice. and it's interesting, because they tend to be the same person in each country?

>> well, people identify you with that person's voice. >> jimmy: right. >> so when when you do a film -- i used to know at least five of them. because i did so many movies when i first started out. and i knew the guy in france, germany, italy, japan, and -- trying to remember -- maybe sweden or something like that. but yeah -- and they like me. >> jimmy: i would hope so. >> because i worked all the time. [ laughter ] >> jimmy: the more you did, the more they work. >> man, it was great. >> jimmy: this is in montreal. this is what fans would say. [ cheers and applause ] >> that's all right. >> jimmy: this is that guy. that's you. [ laughter ] in canada, in quebec. you know this guy? >> very manly, yes, yes.

>> jimmy: this is a guy named miguel angel jenner. he does your voice in europe in spanish. i like the head shot with the glasses around the neck. this is a guy named terry. he is your french voice, thierry. you know this guy? >> i've met him, yes. >> jimmy: this is paolo buglione. italian. that's you in italy. [ laughter ] this is japan, tesho genda. [ applause ] >> that's one of them. another guy that's very, very, very chic that does my voice. >> jimmy: do you prefer a chic voice artist? >> i like them on the red carpet. >> jimmy: do you know how many movies you've been in? >> i have no idea. >> jimmy: we added it up. more than 200. [ cheers and applause ] >> really? >> jimmy: more than 200. that's a lot. i mean, you were -- i feel like

we've known you in the movies for, like, maybe 35 years or so. is that wrong? is that right? >> i guess that's my -- yeah, probably. yeah. depends on, you know, when you're going back to "coming to america" and stuff like that. [ cheers ] >> jimmy: "coming to america." what was your character's name? "coming to america"? >> robert. >> jimmy: robert? >> yeah. "sea of love." >> jimmy: in the movie "sea of love" you played "black guy." >> "black guy." [ laughter ] i was also "clipboard guy" for a while. >> jimmy: in "sea of love"? >> they took the clipboard away? >> gave to it another guy. they changed directors. when i came back, they had me do another part. so i became "black guy." [ laughter ] >> jimmy: you were -- let's see. >> i think i -- i didn't have a name in "strictly business." >> jimmy: i don't have that one listed. the movie "magic sticks," do you remember your name in that one? >> "homeless dude"? >> jimmy: "bum."

"ragtime?" you know that one? >> "gang member 3." >> jimmy: 2, close. have you seen all the movies you've been in? >> oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. >> jimmy: have you ever paid to see yourself in a movie? >> yes. >> jimmy: when is the last time that happened? >> um -- i think hawaii i went to see something i was in. i don't even know what movie came out, but i paid to see it. i actually paid, like -- i actually got my senior discount. [ laughter ] >> jimmy: did you really? [ applause ] oh, yeah, you had a big birthday last month. >> yeah. >> jimmy: a big one. do you mind me saying? >> no. >> jimmy: 75 years old. [ cheers and applause ] your skin is like a baby's. >> oh, stop. >> jimmy: baby skin. >> it was so crazy, "what do you want for your birthday?" "to wake up." [ laughter ] >> jimmy: did you do anything? did you have a party?

>> no, i had a sushi meal with my team. >> jimmy: with your team, yeah. did everyone you know text you all day long the whole day? >> yeah. >> jimmy: do you return their texts? >> totally. >> jimmy: you, do all of the texts? >> yes. >> jimmy: did magic text you? >> yes. >> jimmy: did he get you a present? he's a billionaire. [ laughter ] >> i'm sure they did. >> jimmy: uh-huh? you just don't remember? >> well -- you know. it's -- it's different kind of stuff. you know, sometimes it's like, "we going to take you to so-and-so, do this, have a big meal in this place." like last week i missed going to turks and caicos with him because i was shooting -- >> jimmy: you guys are now going to turks and caicos without me too? [ laughter ] >> i didn't go. >> jimmy: you didn't go, but you were supposed to go. >> i was supposed to go. >> jimmy: i wasn't supposed to go. >> really? could have taken my place. >> jimmy: i would have went to either turks or caicos. [ laughter ] i didn't even need to go to both of them. >> you totally could have taken my place. >> jimmy: we're going to take a break. i can't believe you're 75 years old. you really do have the skin of a 30-year-old supermodel.

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can't know what a grape is till you know what it's been through. [ cheers and applause ] >> jimmy: wow. that's "argylle." phil jackson and bryce dallas howard on another vacation without me. where was that vineyard that you guys were in? >> english countryside. >> jimmy: oh, the english countryside? >> yeah. >> jimmy: oh, they make wine in the english countryside, huh? >> that was actually a horse ranch. >> jimmy: oh, really? >> and they put all that stuff out there, you know. they planted the grapes and put -- hung grapes, you know. set department laid it out. they did a great job. cgi, all the rest of it. >> jimmy: it was, really? that was -- >> the big drone shot is cgi, but that's real. they had real grapes. i had about 9,000 grapes that day. [ laughter ] >> jimmy: did you really? >> that's the thing. you don't want to smoke a cigarette in a scene, you don't

want to eat stuff. >> jimmy: then somebody comes around with a bucket, you want to spit those out? >> you can't spit that out, i got too many lines after that happened. kind of got to finish the grape. >> jimmy: so it is a hard job. [ laughter ] >> can be. yeah, can be. yeah. >> jimmy: you know, the 30th anniversary of "pulp fiction" is coming up. [ cheers and applause ] 30 years. is there an event planned? is there anything that's going to happen? >> no. >> jimmy: no, okay. i was worried that there wasn't going to be anything, so we have something special for you. >> having a party? >> jimmy: a mini reunion. well, not necessarily a party. ♪ guillermo, i need the key. [ laughter ] >> so close. >> jimmy: not necessary, guillermo. all right. i don't know why it had to be in your mouth, okay. that's for you. i hope you like it. all right, here we go. >> oh my god!

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[ cheers and applause ] ♪ >> jimmy: hey, there. music from train and reo speedwagon is on the way. our next guest is an award-winning journalist who brings you hard-hitting cable news six days a week and a new limited series called "united states of scandal with jake tapper." it premieres february 18th on cnn. please welcome jake tapper. [ cheers and applause ] ♪ >> jimmy: very good to see you. stop by our gift shop? >> i brought presents all the way from washington, d.c. first of all, the bag is in honor of todd. >> jimmy: of my new dog, todd. >> todd. we're dog people too.

>> jimmy: yeah, you love dogs, i know that. >> this is a novel i wrote. and i dedicated it to jimmy because he is my muse. >> jimmy: yes, you really did dedicate it to me, like no kidding, didn't you? [ applause ] >> because -- not just for the show. so we were fishing at jimmy's lodge. he is -- the bar of the fishing lodge is dedicated to '70s stuntman icon, evel knevil. >> jimmy: that's right. >> and i said, why? [ laughter ] what is your obsession with evel knevil? and you said that he was one of the most classic american characters and that you knew i was writing a novel that was taking place in the '70s and you said, "you should make him a character in the book." >> jimmy: and he jumped the snake river canyon, where the fishing lodge is. >> you told me to watch johnny knoxville's documentary. evel knevil is a big character in the book. >> jimmy: he is a big character in the book and in my young life also. >> then i brought you this. >> jimmy: oh, thank you, the sun cycle, thank you. [ laughter ] this is one of the great toys.

this may have been the greatest toy of my youth. >> i don't know if you still have one. it's an original evel knevil stunt cycle, at least according to ebay. [ cheers and applause ] >> jimmy: i should have got you a toy. >> no, no, you gave me the idea for putting evel knevil in the book. >> jimmy: this is not an original stunt cycle, but i'll take it anyway, thank you. [ laughter ] >> how do you know it's not -- >> jimmy: fake news, i know what's going on. [ laughter ] jake, how long have you been covering politics in washington? >> oh, like a quarter century, something like that. >> jimmy: quarter century. >> late '90s, yeah. [ applause ] >> jimmy: it was a different job back then? >> it was a different job. it started during the bill clinton era. but yeah, it was -- it was somewhat more reality-based than it is -- than it is today, yeah. >> jimmy: is that difficult, the fact that it is, like, that we're in a time now where somebody can -- you can have evidence, you can see it on videotape, you can hear it with

your own ears, and people go, "no, that didn't happen." >> it's bizarre. you've commented a bunch of times on this taylor swift/travis kelce insanity, this conspiracy theory. it's so bizarre. one of the reasons i think it happens is because the people on the far right who come up with this nonsense, their incentive structure is, come up with nonsense for clicks. then the people downstream from them, the politicians, don't understand it's a completely different incentive structure. they're supposed to be grounded in fragments and reality and things that matter to the american people. not deranged conspiracy theories about tay-tay. [ laughter ] >> jimmy: then you see this hearing today, these guys are yelling at the ceo -- by the way, deservedly so. >> against them in that hearing. >> jimmy: yelling at these guys for putting things on the internet that are harmful. >> yeah. >> jimmy: all the while putting things on the internet that are harmful. [ laughter ]

>> yeah. a few of them have put things on the internet about me that weren't so -- that weren't accurate. >> jimmy: yeah, it's unpleasant and it's not fair. i don't know, it's like -- it's like playing a game with no rules. >> right. you're playing with rules, right? i think that i am playing the game with rules, and i'm adhering to facts and journalistic ethics and the like. and the other people, you know -- if you're playing checkers, they're defecating on the board. [ laughter ] >> jimmy: realize you can't win if you play by the rules and they don't. >> well, i don't want to hatch anything to do with the game anymore when you look at the board. >> jimmy: this new show, "the united states of scandal," is focused on -- and i think this is interesting -- on all the characters we used to be focused on. >> right. >> jimmy: before this donald trump came in to wash everyone else away. >> yeah. it's fun. it was an opportunity to go back and look at a bunch of scandals post-2000, pre-donald trump, and really dive into them. what actually happened, who they were. because you know, when we cover them and when we take them in as

news consumers, it's all just day-to-day developments. and usually we don't find out what happened at the end because we get bored with it or something else happens. usually they're not giving interviews. so it was really interesting to be able to go back and dive into some of them. >> jimmy: interesting, one of the guys that you interview was somebody that you were -- was a friend of yours, right? >> yeah, one of the profiles, one of the shows is about governor mark sanford, the south carolina governor who went for a hike on the appalachian trail, et cetera, et cetera. >> jimmy: yeah. where was he actually? >> he was in south america with his lover. >> jimmy: yes, yes, right, yes. >> which is not the same thing as hiking on the appalachian trail. [ laughter ] that was kind of an education for me in believing the best in politicians. >> jimmy: ah. >> because i knew him. and i didn't necessarily believe the best of him, but i didn't believe the worst. that when he said he was hiking the appalachian trail, i didn't think, "oh, so he has a lover in

south america." [ laughter ] >> jimmy: awfully specific. you had an interview with rod blagojevich. >> former governor of illinois. >> jimmy: very interesting character. guy with the hair. by the way, commuted -- donald trump -- >> yes. >> jimmy: he was a democrat, but somehow donald trump got involved -- >> he had been on "celebrity apprentice." >> jimmy: oh, that's right. >> he had been on "celebrity apprentice." so donald trump knew him. and his wife would go on fox and talk to -- i think -- yes, then president trump and beg for a commutation or a pardon. and, you know, he's not -- president trump, former president trump, is not a particularly complicated guy. >> jimmy: right. >> if you want to get on his good side, you praise him. that's it. >> jimmy: and she did. >> that's the mystery. that's the key. unlock the key. if you're going to guillermo's mouth to get the key on that one. >> jimmy: you ask him, "hey, i'd like to talk to you"? >> i said, "you can tell us your story, give us your side of the story."

it's an opportunity for me to say, "what were you thinking?" because you remember, the thing was he had obama's senate seat, obama won, became president, now there's a senate seat. the governor now can appoint somebody. and at the same time, the federal investigators are looking into him. he doesn't want to be governor anymore. so he wants to get something in exchange for the senate seat. >> jimmy: money, right? isn't that what he wanted? >> well, he said it was worth something. he said it was worth something. so i got to -- >> jimmy: we have a clip. >> knowing they were looking at you, why did you talk about this stuff that way? >> look, i had 2,896 days in prison to ask myself a thousand questions, including that. >> were you just saying, like, this seat is very important and we want to make sure the best person gets it? and separately, i am thinking that i'd like to not be governor of illinois anymore? >> well said. [ laughter ]

>> jimmy: you got caught up in his hair, i think. >> it's just -- what was fun for me for this, whether it's mcgreevy, the john edwards scandal. >> jimmy: oh, yeah. >> and blagojevich, weapons of mass destruction with valerie plame and the rest, it was an opportunity to go into the spitzer scandal as well, go into it and talk to people that were there or were the scandalized people themselves and say, what were you thinking? what was really going on? i learned a ton. because, you know, you don't necessarily really understand it all when you're covering it. the scandal breaks, you know -- the scandal breaks, people like you make fun of it, everybody laughs, everybody enjoys it. and then we move on. but, you know, there are real shakespearean tragedies. i mean, maybe not blagojevich. [ laughter ] but you know what i mean. >> jimmy: it's great to see you. >> it's good to see you. >> jimmy: the show is called "united states of scandal with jake tapper." it premieres february 18th on cnn. jake tapper, everybody. [ cheers and applause ]

we'll be back with train and reo speedwagon. two very different visions for california. steve garvey, the leading republican, is too conservative for california. he voted for trump twice and supported republicans for years, including far right conservatives. adam schiff, the leading democrat, defended democracy against trump and the insurrectionists. he helped build affordable housing, lower drug costs, and bring good jobs back home. the choice is clear. i'm adam schiff, and i approve this message.

growing up, my parents wanted me to become a doctor or an engineer. those are good careers! but i chose a different path. first, as mayor and then in the legislature. i enshrined abortion rights in our california constitution. in the face of trump, i strengthened hate crime laws and lowered the costs for the middle class. now i'm running to bring the fight to congress. you were always stubborn. and on that note, i'm evan low, and i approve this message. >> jimmy: thanks to sam jackson

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