today on getting answers. google is using ai to answer your health questions. how much can you trust the results? a popular electronic musician is holding a concert tomorrow night in san francisco. how did they pull it off? seemingly overnight out of the blue. and what does this reveal about city hall? but first, former president trump lashes out today after being found guilty in his hush money

trial, calling the process rigged and the judge, quote, a devil. you're watching, getting answers. i'm kristen sze. thanks for joining us. former president donald trump is defiant as he vows to appeal the conviction. today he slammed the judge, the da and michael cohen, who is of course, the star witness in the case. meanwhile, his november rival, president joe biden, commented on the verdict for the first time. abc's morgan norwood has the latest. >> president joe biden breaking his silence on former president trump's historic conviction and it's reckless. >> it's dangerous. and it's irresponsible for anyone to say this was rigged just because they don't like the verdict. >> the president declaring no one is above the law. his campaign careful not to celebrate this as the ex-president is slamming his democratic rival and the justice system. >> they are in total conjunction with the white house and the doj. just so you understand. >> despite building his campaign

around law and order, trump, now a convicted felon, found guilty on 34 criminal counts of falsifying business records. >> it was a rigged trial. >> trump's potential vice presidential picks eager to defend the ex-president, representative byron donalds on cnn. >> he knows that this is a joke and it's a farce, although it's serious in nature because what happened in new york was a travesty of the justice system. house judiciary chair jim jordan of ohio, posting on social media that republicans plan to demand testimony from manhattan district attorney alvin bragg and another top prosecutor who worked on trump's hush money case. >> it's only going to increase his support. >> an abc news ipsos poll from two weeks ago shows trump's favorability among his likely voters may go down with this conviction. >> we saw 80% of trump's supporters say they would continue to support him. no matter what, but that's another 20% total that would either reconsider or withdraw their support based on a conviction. >> some congressional democrats are pushing for the president and his campaign to ramp up its

rhetoric on trump's guilty verdict. this as trump could face fines in up to four years in prison when he's sentenced on july 11th, and when abc news washington. >> all right, so what is the impact of the verdict on the upcoming presidential election in a new marist poll, 67% of registered voters said a guilty verdict would not change how they vote, to 7% of voters said a guilty verdict would make them less likely to vote for trump in the presidential race, joining us live now to talk about this is paul mitchell, vice president of political data inc, a california based voter data firm . paul, good to see you. thanks so much. thanks for having me. look, there seems to be conflicting views from different polls. some seem to suggest voters would weigh felon status. others seem to suggest otherwise. what are you seeing? >> well, i think first off, polls are kind of an imperfect mechanism for trying to determine what's going to happen here. a lot of the polling to date has been asking about an event that might happen in the

future. so these are polls that were done before the conviction, saying, you know, would you be likely to change your vote one way or the other? and we aren't really that good at predicting how we're going to act or think in the future. if i asked you, you know, you're going to get a promotion. would that make you happy in the future? you might say, oh yeah, i'd be thrilled. after you get the promotion a month or two later, you might just be back down to baseline and not be as thrilled anymore. so our ability to answer those types of questions about future thoughts is kind of imperfect. and so i think that's one real reason to, you know, question the polling that's come out so far. okay. >> but there is one that was done after the verdict, the yougov snap poll, i think. yeah. and here's the result from that. all right. but it's basically 50% say they believe trump is guilty of the charges, 30% believe he's not. and you can see a real difference there, paul, between what democrats and republicans say with regard to whether they agree with the verdict. what do you make of

this? >> well, this is what we would have expected, in all the polling we've seen, you know, democrats are much more likely to agree with the fact that charges were brought to view him as being guilty. and republicans generally have been the opposite. so i think a lot of what you're seeing is a poll that is asking the question about the verdict, but is really getting back an answer, which is do you support the president or not, so, what we're really looking for is going to be polling in the next several weeks is really looking at the head to head match between biden and trump to see whether or not this actually has an impact. there is some polling and data to suggest that, maybe 10% of republicans are going to be rethinking their vote, whether or not they drop their support now and only come back, you know, in a month or two, is really what we're going to be looking to see, in the polling. remember, there's six months before the election. how much of

this decision impacts a vote then when we've got, you know, debates the olympics, you know, kids home for summer, all these other things before we actually vote, really is to be determined. >> you're right. because, you know, when dobbs happened, people thought that was going to be the big thing. and now it doesn't even register as the big thing. and so many other big things could happen, to put it in very non-technical terms. but i will say, if you look at the impact, okay, there's this. the trump campaign says it's raised $34 billion from small donors since the verdict yesterday. allegedly 30% were first time bu that surprise you because i mean is the conviction actually helping him more than it's hurting him? >> well, that doesn't really surprise me that he was able to raise money off this. he's shown the ability to be able to do that in the past. i will tell you that right now, you put on the table for donald trump. would you rather have $34 million or an acquittal? i think he'd choose the acquittal. all right. well that is not a choice

he has. so south carolina senator tim scott, republican, who had run in the gop presidential primary and is mentioned as a potential running mate for trump, says today never trumpers and black voters are starting to look at trump. do you have any polls that support that? >> no, i think a lot of people will say things like, there's been people who say, well, this is going to increase the support for trump. and i don't think there's actually data that suggests that, you know, the trump campaign has in recent polling, done better among black voters and republicans or trump have done, in the past, the biden campaign. i think really for them, this is a, you know, four alarm fire to make sure that minority voters have traditionally voted democratic, don't get lost in this election cycle for them, so, you know, it is a real concern for democrats and for the biden campaign, but, i don't think that that narrative really is going to be the most important narrative going into november.

>> who are the normally safe democratic voters that biden may not be able to count on this time, due to a variety of factors? >> yeah, i think that what we need to look at is the same voters that were previously more safe democratic voters in 2016 and in 2020. think about those voters in the rust belt states like pennsylvania or even in the sun belt states in arizona and nevada and going into georgia, those white democrat working class voters have been a real weakness for democrats in the last couple election cycles, and i think they will be a key group in this election cycle. so, you know, those voters are more interested in jobs, the economy, inflation, manufacturing jobs in particular, and how the biden campaign can sell the things that they've achieved on a policy front and actually get like believable messengers and messengers to those voters, is going to be really critical, what are the latest numbers and how ferm are voters right now? you think at this point, well, there's about 90% of voters that

are very, very, very firm, we have a very polarized electorate where most people are strongly supportive of, either trump or honestly not trump. and that really does seem to drive most of decision making, you do have, you know, some percentage, maybe it's ten, maybe it's 15% of voters who kind of oscillate back and forth. the real important ones are those in those swing states, about five states around the country where those electoral votes will make the difference. so you know, this is shocking. but the last election really was decided by about 50,000 voters. so you could see a population smaller than most, you know, major cities really determining the outcome in those swing states. so, those are really the most important percentages are in those, you know, key five states. >> and of course, that makes the race so hard to predict, paul mitchell, political data, inc. thank you so much for coming on

and sharing your expertise. >> thanks for having me. >> up next, ai and your health. google has started using the technology to answer medical questions, but can you trust what it says? we'll dive into that with an expert next on getting answers.

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i overviews that uses generative ai to answer your questions, but it's come under fire for giving wrong information sometimes, which could have serious health impact, which leads us to the questions. when you make medical queries, can you trust the google ai powered search results? joining us live now to talk more about that and other health news is doctor peter chin-hong, the ucsf infectious disease specialist. hi, doctor chin-hong, good to see you. >> good to see you too, kristen. thanks for having me. >> i'm glad you're just as excited talking about this as i am, because it's so interesting and it's only going to become more relevant. since its launch, users have reported inaccuracies and bizarre answers on this google platform. for example, somebody asked, how many rocks should i eat? and the i guess suggested consuming one rock daily for vitamins and minerals, and then i think to another user , google, i suggested using nontoxic glue to help cheese stick better to pizza. okay, how does this happen?

>> yeah. so what ai is doing in these generative models is that it's getting an average of whatever is on the web, so it can not only be trusted sites like the mayo clinic or webmd, it could also include people's blogs or reddit. so it doesn't really give you, the information on whether the result is coming from. it's kind of just averaging out the responses. the other thing is it doesn't, distinguish between old studies and new studies. so something might be disproven, but it may still talk about it in the same way i mean, shouldn't it be weighted in such a way as, you know, the critical websites or sources get pushed to the top and then, you know, and also the more recent ones, for example, i think the one about eating rocks that came from, you know, the onion, which is, of course, a satire website magazine. >> right, so what can we do? i guess, since right now they're not doing that very well, i

think what we can do is just be very suspicious about high stakes information, like health information. >> i think going to a single site or going to a site that comes after the summary at the beginning, it's probably going to be better than getting the average for high stakes events. and basically, like you said, i think i'm hoping it will evolve where you can get an indication of quality when you get a statement. right? >> right. i mean, i'm sure they're working on that. and i guess the moral is, you know, don't trust everything you read. and i guess, as always, consult a doctor such as yourself. right >> exactly. i mean, it does improve access to health care. yeah, but we have to understand the, the areas where it's not so great. okay >> i want to talk about some other news with you because there's a whole lot going on today. there's a new case of a human in the us catching the bird flu. >> yes. it was reported yesterday and a press release from, the cdc. and there's a

third case, this person was in michigan, a dairy worker again. and, the difference between this case and the other two cases, one in texas, another in michigan, is that this person had respiratory symptoms, too. so what that means is that the person might get sicker faster and may also be able to transmit it to others. so there, investigating the person's family, their close contacts, they've given them, tamiflu. so i think they're all over it at this moment. >> i mean, from 1 to 10. how worried should we be at this moment about bird flu and getting. >> i think we should be like one out of ten worried for human, transmission right now or 0 to 1. but as a concept, we should be ten out of ten. you know, curious about it, i think at some point it's probably going to get into humans, in a more sustained way. >> all right, well, stem cell breakthrough. i heard there's another headline offering some new hope to cancer patients. and

it involves transplants. and whether how? you know, it has to be perfect. talk to us about what that is. >> yeah. so when you get a transplant, and in this case, it's a stem cell or what was called bone marrow transplant before you have to get close to 100% match. and people might have seen, you know, this infant having leukemia and wanting to do a blood drive. and that's because in some populations, even though there are 40 million people on the registry, we, you know, for some populations like asians or african americans or latinx, it's very, very tough to find a match. so this particular study that's going to be reported in the national meetings, right. today, actually in chicago, is really using a medicine that's kind of an old medicine to kind of quiet down the immune system so you can take something that's a partial match, will open up a lot of more stem cell transplants to a lot more populations. and it was

an 80% survival in a high risk situation. so did just as well as a very good match. okay. >> well, that's good to hear. very promising, this is not so good to hear. i did read the article today about how for college students, ptsd seems to be on the rise. can you tell us what's happening there and why it's happening? yeah >> so it is very large study, they looked at hundreds of thousands of college students, and in 2022, it was close to 8% of students reporting ptsd, which is like intrusive thoughts. more than a month after the episode that caused the stress. this was about a, you know, it went up from about 4% five years ago and people thought it's probably due to all the things that are happening on college campuses now, covid and deaths, school shootings. and it doesn't even account for what's going on with the, conflict in the middle east now and how that's riled up, you know, and stressed out college students

what you can do. i think knowing about it, getting a good diagnosis and giving very specific therapy. that's right. for ptsd. >> okay, you knew i was going to ask you what can we do about it? so thanks for giving me that answer there, look, it's only getting into summer right now. usually we're not thinking about vaccines yet. not usually until the fall. but you do want to call some awareness to the mpox vaccine right now. tell us about that. >> yeah. so there've been, almost 200 cases of mpox in new york, 69 cases in chicago, although only nine in san francisco, i think with pride activities this month, you'll have a mixing of people, so the health department is worried that we'll see another spike, you know, given all the people who haven't been vaccinated. and so it's really important to go out and get that vaccine if you're eligible. and they are two shots, 28 days apart. >> okay. now for those of us, that's definitely a good idea. so look into that for those of

us who are planning ahead, because we like to know what our vaccines are coming, what should we expect this fall and what's new with the covid vaccine? >> yeah, so we're probably going to get a new formula in the fall for covid, people might have heard that the new variants going around now are called the flu variants. they're more than 50% of the cases. and you know, so that's what we'll expect in the fall. it will be a better match than what's going on now, in terms of the current vaccine. but for those who haven't gotten the current vaccine, particularly if you're older or immune compromised, please go ahead and get it. don't wait for the fall because we're going to expect a summer bump in cases. we're already starting to see a little bit of that right now. >> all right, sounds good. doctor peter chin-hong, thank you so much. always great talking to you. thanks so much, christine. san francisco is ready to party this weekend. a big rave is coming to town, but how did the city make it happen? our media partner, the san fran

an electronic music rave is happening in the civic center area, featuring popular djs skrillex and fred again. but how did they pull off this seemingly overnight? that's what our media partner, the san francisco standard, explores in this new article. and joining us live is astra kane, senior culture editor at the standard, who wrote that article? hey, astrid. >> hey. how are you? >> i'm good, i'm good. i got to confess, of all the subjects, like if we were playing jeopardy, there are different topics. category subjects. the one that i know least is music. so, yeah, but thankfully, you're here. and for those of us who don't follow the edm scene, who are these artists? >> yeah, i'll take skrillex for $2,000, please, yeah. so they are actually pretty well known djs, skrillex has nine grammys to his name. that's more than any other electronic music producer on earth, actually.

they've played a number of shows together, most recently at coachella 2023. they've released a couple of a couple of songs and, you know, the show sold out within an hour or so. obviously, the fan base was really excited for it, right? >> and i think the thing that caught your attention was that news of it seemed to have just come out 96 hours before the actual event, you know, usually they promote these things, you know, for months i, i will admit that i was really surprised by that, too, skrillex put out a slightly cryptic tweet last friday, just him kind of smirking and pointing to a shirt that advertised to him and fred again saying civic center. but there was very little detail and then tickets went on sale and sold out within. i think, just under 60 minutes. >> okay, so how did this happen? right. because san francisco is not known for allowing things to happen quickly. we think about the time and money spent on a public toilet, which you wrote about in your article. so how did this get pulled off? so

there was a lot happening behind the scenes, right? >> it's like an iceberg. you only see a little tiny portion, but at the top, it turns out that another planet entertainment, the producer which owns bill graham and the independent and puts on outside lands every year they had pulled or filed for a permit in february. so this has been in the works for at least three months. they've been talking to rec and park and sfmta and the mayor's office and all the relevant city agencies and, you know, it is impressive that they managed to get this going this quickly because, as you say, san francisco is known for its occasionally sluggish pace on large scale things of this nature. but everyone was invested in seeing downtown programing, so here we are. >> i was just going to say, you know, the fact that this happened pretty quickly and seemingly with a lot of support from city hall to make it happen, does that say something about the city's priorities right now? >> yeah. so the city desperately wants people to come back downtown to civic center, both by day and by night. and another

planet, which again puts on outside lands, had filed for a request for a second additional festival, also in golden gate park in august. and the first one will be held this year. and in return they promised to put on three shows once, three times a year for three years, one would be in civic center, one would be nearby and un plaza and the third would be in embarcadero. what's funny is this skrillex and fred again show is actually in addition to that. so it just shows you how invested everybody is in getting as many people downtown as they can. >> right? and also harder for someone to say no to you if you're saying, but look at this and look at that. and i got this too. okay? now you're sold. okay. so tell us, what can people expect at the concert? >> yeah. so if there's one thing skrillex is known for, it's being very, very loud. i actually saw him headline a festival last weekend outside of bakersfield, and there was a lot of pyrotechnics. i asked another planet, you know, can we expect something that dramatic? and they said, no. sadly no pyro this time. so i think it's going

to be a slightly more stripped down show than the more elaborate performances. but, you know, a lot of bass drops, a lot of like frenzy. it's going to be very, very high energy. and it's also a 3.5 hour show, which means there's plenty of time for lots of special guests, and they're going to be special guests that are familiar to people who already know skrillex. but, you know, for the people who paid the money to go see the show, i imagine it's going to be pretty amazing. all right, well, astra kane, we can always count on you to give us the scoop as to what's happening in the city, culturally speaking. >> thank you very much. >> always my pleasure. thanks. >> and you can check out astrid's story and more of the san francisco standard's other original reporting on their website, sf standard.com. and remember, abc7 news is streaming 24 seven. get the abc7 bay area app and join us whenever you want. wherever you are,

with experts from around the bay area. world news tonight with david muir is next, and i'll see you back here at four. >> david: tonight, breaking news. for the first time, president biden on donald trump's guilty verdict. and donald trump's fury today at trump tower. also tonight, the deadly explosion at that bank and apartment building. new images tonight. one of the victims being rescued. what you might not remember from 9/11. what they were willing to do. first, former president donald trump railing against his conviction on 34 felony