♪ this is "nightline." >> juju: tonight, hunter biden guilty. three federal gun charges. what one juror says was the key evidence. plus, the brat pack. ♪ hey hey hey hey ♪ >> juju: don't you forget about them. the hottest young actors of the '80s. >> hey, emilio estevez, this is andrew mccarthy calling you. hey, demi.

hello, judd? >> juju: who everyone wanted to be, except them. >> i just felt that it didn't represent us, and i felt like it was a real limited perspective. >> juju: one on one with andrew mccarthy and his project to reunite the brats. how they all feel today. >> i'm asked for retrospectives all the time, i turn everything down. >> why are you talking to me? >> juju: and "the outsiders." the iconic coming of age-movie live and electric on the broadway stage. ♪ i've got great expectations ♪ >> juju: how the story of being alone and belonging lives on through the cast members. >> i was like, what makes him johnny? it's that he doesn't really have anybody besides pony. and i was like, oh my god, that's like me. >> juju: and a rare interview with "the outsiders" author who says her message lives on. >> "the outsiders," everybody feels like an outsider. >> juju: plus jaws goes vegan.

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♪ >> juju: thanks for joining us. history made today when the president's son, hunter biden, was found guilty of each of the three federal gun charges against him. here's abc's senior national correspondent terry moran.

>> reporter: after three hours of deliberations, the jury in hunter biden's federal criminal trial reached a verdict. the defendant raced back to the courthouse to hear guilty on all three felony counts for lying about his drug use on a gun application in 2018 and possessing a gun while abusing drugs. the first-ever criminal convictions for the child of a sitting u.s. president. at first, hunter biden appeared stunned when he heard the word guilty. then he nodded, patted his lawyer on the back, and hugged his legal team and his wife. moments later, hunter walked out of the courthouse hand in hand with his wife, melissa on one side, and his mother, the first lady, on the other, determined to show her support. minutes after court adjourned, a statement from president biden acknowledging the verdict. "i am the president, but i am also a dad. jill and i love our son, and we are so proud of the man he is today. so many families who have had loved ones battle addiction understand the feeling of pride seeing someone you love come out

the other side and be so strong and resilient in recovery, and i will always be there for hunter and the rest of our family with our love and support. nothing will ever change that." moments after the verdict, i met with juror number 10 in the garage. some of the critical evidence for him, hunter's own text message sent the day after he bought that gun saying he was waiting for a dealer named mookie. >> didn't buy the notion that for those few days around the purchase of the gun, he wasn't abusing drugs? >> no, not at all. >> this case was about illegal choices the defendant made while in the throes of addiction. his choice to lie on a government form when he bought a gun. and the choice to then possess that gun. >> reporter: for hunter biden, it was a long day of reckoning. he faces a maximum of 25 years in prison, though experts say he's unlikely to receive anything like that. "i am more grateful today for the love and support i experienced this past week from melissa, my family, my friends,

and my community than i am disappointed by the outcome. recovery is possible, by the grace of god, and i am blessed to experience that gift one day at a time." >> juju: our thanks to terry. we now step into the "way back machine" with '80s that's right throb andrew mccarthy as our guide. if you were coming of age in that awesome decade, the brat pack was probably at the center of your cultural awareness. in that era of fluffy hair and skin though ties, mccarthy and his cool kids clique epitomized everything that was hip. but he says it's taken years for him to lean into all that. >> who wants to throwback a few bloody marys on me? >> juju: it was the '80s. the era of big hair and valley girl vibes and a cluster of cool kids in hit movies like "st. el elmo's fire" came to define gen-x, the brat pack. but one of those stars felt burdened by it all. >> it change hot i would become.

professionally, personally. in every way. i recoiled from it for years. >> juju: andrew mccarthy spent decades trying to make peace with the brat pack label after fans first fell in love with him opposite molly ringwald in "pretty in pink." >> i love you. >> juju: now he's connecting with some of his former costars. >> this is andrew mccarthy calling you. i hope you're well. a long time. >> juju: exploring what the label "brat pack" really meant for each of them in his new hulu doc "brats" debuting over the weekend at the tribeca film festival. >> for those of us experiencing it from the inside, the vertebra the pack was something very different. >> hey, you around? >> it definitely really irritated me. i felt, like, a sense of it being unjust. i just felt like it didn't represent us, and i felt like it was a real limited perspective.

>> juju: what made you do the film? why now? >> i was very interested in the notion of how the past doesn't stay in the past. the past evolves and is alive in our present. 180 degrees different from the truth of my experience in 1985. >> juju: the '80s brought a seismic shift in pop culture. mtv made its national debut. >> ladies and gentlemen, rock 'n' roll. ♪ >> juju: shopping malls were it place for teens to hang out. and hollywood took note, shifting focus to young ensemble flicks like the john hughes directed "breakfast club" starringaldy sheedy, molly ringwald, judd nelson, and emilio estevez. >> andrew? you've got to be number one! >> "st. elmo's fire," "like "the breakfast club," deals with young people in an honest fashion. it portrays them as thinking human beings instead of these

mindless, crazy little children running around thinking about sex, drugs, and rock 'n' roll. >> so suddenly kids are having genuine credit for genuine emotions, that these emotions are important and they're real and they're vital. so what better fodder for movies than actually young people where everything so is life and death? >> juju: in the center of that universe, the brat pack, a term coined in a 1985 "new york" magazine article. a play on "the rat pack" from the '50s and '60s. that article painting many of those young stars as privileged and entitled. >> it's preceded me into every room i've gone into professionally. i used to drag it around like the carcass of youth. >> reporter: mccarthy made his big-screen debut in the 1983 film "class" alongside rob lowe. >> got to straighten out, get serious, be responsible, clean up our act. >> absolutely. >> reporter: his clear talent and boyish charm later getting him cast alongside other brat pack members. defining who belonged in that crowd is ultimately subjective. >> the brat pack was just us.

>> people say molly's in the brat pack. >> really? molly ringwald? >> i don't see demi or ally being part of that. >> demi, ally, jon cryer. >> i am not in the brat pack. >> juju: why do you think you took it so personally? why did you give it so much power? >> well, probably i was just so insecure and unsure what to do. wait a minute. i felt like i wasn't being seen. when you're coming of age and you're not settled in yourself, it's a confusing time. >> juju: i think every generation sort of thinks of 20-somethings as privileged and clueless. how much of the sort of brat label, which ended up labeling our entire generation -- >> yeah, what's the matter with kids today? we're stigmatized in hollywood for being those punks. but we didn't realize what was happening outside in ohio and everywhere else that kids are going, oh, man, finally someone is speaking for me. >> juju: someone sees me. >> someone sees me, exactly. >> reporter: mccarthy had

written about his experience in "brats: an '80s story" but says he hadn't talked to most of his fellow brat packers in three decades. and is there an easy answer who why you didn't see most of them for 30 years? >> i'm a loner. >> juju: you're the brooding type? >> no, i live in new york, they live there -- i mean, everybody's also working, getting on with life, have kids. you have kids, you fall down a rabbit hole in that. >> i'm in retrospectives all time. i turn everything down. >> juju: how come you're talking to me? >> because you called me. because you asked. and also, i thought it was time that we sort of clear the air of a couple of things. >> juju: those reunions were clearly happy reunions? >> they were really -- that was the great surprise for me in doing the movie was how much affection that we have for each other. we're kind of from the same litter, you know what i mean? >> juju: so it's primal? >> yeah. all our lives just changed from

that. >> not only being in the brat pack, but being around at that time not only changed all of our lives, it changed what entertainment is. >> juju: mccarthy has been in and out of hollywood but has also been a successful travel writer for the past two decades. recently documenting an expedition across spain with his son in a book called "walking with sam." and what have you discovered on that part of your journey of the travel writing part of it? >> when i left home at 17, i never looked back in and my relationship with my dad ended at that moment. i didn't with all my heart want that to happen with my kid. i wanted to rewrite our relationship on a more adult and adult basis. that was an amazing blessing for me. >> juju: mccarthy says his film has given him a chance to rekindle some of his ode old friendships and has helped him look ahead. what do you think other people can learn from your journey? >> we all tell ourselves narratives so we can be the hero of our own life. we all make events mean certain

things so we can justify and be comfortable with how we got to this moment now. often that has very little to do with what happened. if we're going to write a narrative for our life, maybe we can write one that feels good. >> juju: "brats" streams on hulu beginning this thursday. when we come back, "the outsiders" comes to broadway. why the classic story means so much for so many. ♪ great expectations ♪ n's disea. now, there's skyrizi. ♪ things are looking up, i've got symptom relief. ♪ ♪ control of my crohn's means everything to me. ♪ ♪ control is everything to me. ♪ feel significant symptom relief at 4 weeks with skyrizi, including less abdominal pain and fewer bowel movements. skyrizi is the first il-23 inhibitor that can deliver remission and visibly improve damage of the intestinal lining. and the majority of people experienced long-lasting remission at one year.

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alienation and belonging, loneliness, and love, and the journey to self-reliance. these timeless messages are now appearing on the broadway stage for the first time, and reaching a whole new audience on the great white way. here's abc's stephanie ramos. ♪ >> reporter: it's the beloved tale of teenage isolation. ♪ darrell was on his way up in the world ♪ >> reporter: friendship and the struggle to fit in. >> i wish i'd just disappear. >> you don't mean that. >> i do mean it, ponyboy. >> reporter: "the outsiders." the classic young adult novel adapted into a thrilling new broadway musical. >> to be able to explore these characters more with music and really hear what's going on in their heart, it's a really special thing. >> reporter: the show's producer none other than angelina jolie, who collaborated with director

johnya taymor. her daughter vivienne credited as a coproducer. >> it's personal for everyone. and everybody relates to a different character. >> reporter: the novel also adapted into an iconic film directed by francis ford coppola in 1983. >> don't go, ponyboy. >> reporter: it launched the careers of many young stars who would go on to become household names. tom cruise. ralph macchio. rob lowe. emilio esthats very. matt dillon. in the musical tony grant plays ponyboy curtis. the sensitive teen caught between the working-class greasers and the affluent soshs in 1960s tulsa. he's nominated for a tony for his role. ♪ can't you see that we're the lucky ones ♪ >> my mom gave me the book to read when i was 14. and i just remember the moment when i cracked it open. wow, like -- this is amazing.

>> reporter: the heart of the musical is ponyboy's relationship with best friend and outsider among outsiders johnny caid. >> dang, that's some sunrise. >> yeah. >> reporter: played by sky lakota lynch. >> the mist off the pond, how it's all, like, gold and silver? >> reporter: lynch also nominated for a tony for best featured actor. so you've talked about growing up mixed-race and feel that will sense of never truly belonging to one culture or one group? >> my dad is native american, my mom was ethiopian. i looked at johnny, what makes him johnny? that he doesn't really have anybody besides pony. and i was like, oh my god, that's like me, that's how i connected. >> reporter: finding one's chosen family reflected in the cast's close relationships. many are broadway outsiders. ♪ life came along ♪ >> reporter: brody and brent comber making their debuts on the great white way with this

show. >> when we take a bow every night, we know that we're not alone because we have each other. and we're all of us in the same place in our careers and in our lives. >> it is also helpful to have a few pop >> reporter: like you. >> i wasn't thinking of me, but definitely. i stir the pot, definitely. >> reporter: veteran actor joshua boone playing dallas winston. a mentor figure for pony and johnny. in this telling of the story, he's pursued and targeted by law enforcement. how do you approach that role? >> life experience. when i first read the book, the greasers were black people. you know, they were described as white, but i was like, i know these types of interactions. ♪ if he comes back there's a price to pay ♪ >> reporter: and brent comber playing pony's oldest brother, darrell curtis.

>> there ain't no way of knowing -- >> reporter: he's had this father role forced upon him, taking care of his brothers? >> me and my character, we're very different people. i have to build a bridge, and the bridge is, i've been a kid. i know what it's like to take on circumstances that i feel like are beyond myself. >> reporter: the musical sticking close to the 1967 story created by author susie hinton, who was kind of a literary outsider, so young when she wrote it that her publisher suggested she use her initials, "s.e." >> the first reviewers who picked this book up, see what it's about, and think, well, a girl wouldn't know anything about this. and review it with that kind of bias. >> reporter: teachers helped spread the word about the book, using it as a way to get students interested in reading. >> it's got themes the kids could stand. the outsiders, well, everybody feels like an outsider. >> reporter: susie giving the musical her blessing, too. >> what a great cast we've got.

i mean, they are so talented. i'm very, very proud to be associated with it. >> reporter: susie passing the baton to director donna taymor. >> she said one of the most important things for me which was, have your own vision. to hear from the source, to make an adaptation, was a gift. >> reporter: taymor, the niece of broadway legend julie taymor, blending broadway showcases. ♪ i've got great expectations ♪ >> reporter: with intense ensemble scenes culminating in an electrifying greasers versus soshs rumble in the rain. >> that is one of the best pieces of writing, to me, in the play. it talks about mud and rain and how, by the end of the fight, the characters are indistinguishable from one another. >> reporter: the musical a new opportunity for audiences to reconnect with their inner ponyboy or johnny or dally.

>> i really wanted to be able to connect with either the literal teenager in the audience or that self that still lives inside of us. ♪ the morning light and the dawn it brings ♪ >> "the outsiders" has been a part of my life for so long. it saved me. i hope the kids keep taking the message and keep the story alive, because susie wrote something truthful. ♪ stay gold ♪ >> juju: our thanks to stephanie. we'll be watching for the show to vibe for all the tonys this sunday. when we return, he's gobbled his way to glory year after year, but this year, joey chestnut's turning over a new leaf. verything. (♪) (silence) (♪) (♪) hey dave, don't knock it till you smell it.

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>> juju: welcome back. the world of competitive eating rocked by the news that the reigning champ of hot dog-eating contests has gone vegan. joey chestnut parting ways with nathan's over his endorsement of vegan brand impossible foods. chestnut is the world's top-rated competitive eater and has won all but one of the fourth of july contests since 2007. chestnut posting on x, he's gutted by the banning. major league eating, the sport sanctioning body, saying the champ has chosen to represent a rival brand that sells plant-based hot dogs and that he's welcome back when he's not representing a rival brand. now, that's tough to swallow. that's "nightline." thanks for staying up with us. good night, america.