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seth meyers." tonight -- kristen wiig. star of "good one: a show about jokes," comedian, mike birbiglia. an all new "closer look." featuring the 8g band with fred armisen. ♪ [ cheers and applause ] and now, seth meyers. >> seth: good evening, i'm seth meyers. this is "late night." we hope you're doing well. and now, if you don't mind, we're going to get to the news. while speaking yesterday about his efforts to lower health care costs with vermont senator, bernie sanders, president biden said, quote, "bernie and i have been doing this work a long time. i know we don't look like it. and boy did they have a good laugh about that." [ laughter ] in an interview yesterday, republican congresswoman marjorie taylor greene criticized house speaker, mike johnson's proposal for ukraine aid and said, quote, "we don't know who mike johnson is anymore." well, i guess i'm a trendsetter, because i never knew who mike johnson was -- [ laughter ] in the first place. hedge fund billionaire, john paulson is set to host a fund-raiser on saturday in palm beach for former president

trump, which will feature former first lady, melania trump. oh, nice. that will give these two some time to catch up. "mel, you look great. have you been working out?" [ laughter ] ahead of this weekend's trump fundraiser in palm beach, organizers are offering attendees the opportunity to sit at former president trump's table during dinner if they donate more than $824,000. and while it's a lot of money, it's still eric's only chance. [ laughter ] former president trump posted on truth social and bragged about the platform's success. and it immediately went viral. [ laughter ] a florida man was recently charged with reckless driving after he allegedly put his car in cruise control and stood up through the vehicle's sun roof. oh, come on, it's florida. i'm surprised they don't have a lane for that. [ laughter ] a woman who was rock climbing with her cat in colorado was recently rescued after they got stuck on a mountain.

okay, well after she got stuck on a mountain. [ light laughter ] cat was like, "you mind if i go? i can get off a mountain." [ laughter ] in honor of national burrito day, the restaurant chain qdoba is offering customers a free burrito with the purchase of an entree and a drink. ah, yes. mexico may have invented the burrito, but it was america that made it a side dish. [ light laughter ] according to new research, brown rats arrived in north america in 1740, or about 40 years earlier than previously believed. this week on a very special "finding your roots." [ laughter ] and finally, according to new data, crime in new york's subway station decreased by 23% compared to last year, because even criminals have places they've got to be. [ laughter ] and that was the monologue, everybody.

we are off and running. [ cheers and applause ] we've got a great one for you tonight. she is one of the all-time greatest "snl" cast members, and this weekend she's going to be back hosting for the fifth time. kristen wiig is here, everybody. [ cheers and applause ] how about that. and he's a fantastic comedian, actor, and director you know from "trainwreck," "sleepwalk with me," "the old man in the pool," and so many others. he's the subject of the documentary speical "good one: a show about jokes," streaming now on peacock. my very good friend mike birbiglia is also joining us. [ cheers and applause ] but before we get to all of that, donald trump's net worth plunged by more than $1 billion after the stock price of his struggling social media company fell by more than 20% amid huge losses and a legal battle between trump and his cofounders, and now investors are betting millions the company will collapse. for more on this it's time for "a closer look." [ applause ] ♪ >> seth: presidents from both parties love to brag about the success of the stock market. in fact, trump cares so much about the stock market's

performance, he's tried to claim credit for its success after he left office. but even his biggest boosters like fox host, maria bartiromo aren't buying it. >> the biden team can say, well, if things are so bad, how come the stock market's on a roll? >> because they think i'm going to be elected. >> you think the stock market's rallying because people think you're going to be elected? >> i do, yeah. >> seth: even maria bartiromo doesn't believe it. look at her face. she's so shocked, she turned into rudy. [ laughter ] by the way, if you invested $20 in us using the rudy eyes graphic five years ago, you'd a millionaire right now. that's the face you make when a buddy tells you the mets are going to win it all this year. "you think the mets are going to win the world series?" "i do, they started 0 on -- 0-5 on purpose to lull the rest of the league into a false sense of security, and then when everyone's guard's down, they pounce, and they just lost again, oh [ bleep ]. it's all part of the plan. [ bleep ]." all presidents do this. trump just takes it to absurd extremes as he always does.

but the stock market is not the real economy. for one thing, the wealthiest 10% of americans own 93% of the stocks, although you don't need a study to tell you that. just go to any manhattan dinner party. i can't tell you the number of times i've sat next to someone talking to me about margin calls and options trading and i don't know what the [ bleep ] any of those terms mean. [ light laughter ] which is why whenever i get invited to a dinner party now, i always rsvp with a note that says, "please sit me next to your dumbest guest." [ laughter ] "oh, and there's my nametag. oh, hello, mr. mayor." [ laughter ] "are you going to eat your roll? if not, i'm going to take it home in my pocket." the stock market does not fully reflect the underlying health of the economy. and there's no better current example of that than trump media and technology group. the parent company of trump's tiny and struggling twitter rip-off, truth social. when the company went public last week, it soared to shocking highs despite the fact that it has lost money and users, which in turn, massively inflated trump's net worth on paper. >> more breaking news tonight involving donald trump.

his media company, which of course includes truth social, soaring on its first day of trading on nasdaq, surging 56% at one point during trading to $78 a share before closing at $58. >> trump now owns 60% of the new trump media company, or roughly $78 million a share. a stake that is on paper at this hour worth $4.6 billion. >> the higher the stock goes, the higher that donald trump's net worth is. at yesterday's close, trump's net worth, according to bloomberg, a little over $7 billion. it went up by $4 billion on monday alone. >> seth: that's right. trump's net worth went up by $4 billion in one day. here's actual footage of me waking up to that news. >> he can't keep getting away with this! [ laughter ] >> seth: now, to be clear, that's only on paper. those are unrealized gains. donald trump can't spend or borrow against any of that money yet. although you know donald trump doesn't see it that way. when trump heard that his net

worth increased by $4 billion, he immediately ran out, bought a ferrari, a scrooge mcduck money pool, and a beautiful new head of hair. the only -- the only way trump would admit the money wasn't real is if rudy asked trump to pay his outstanding legal bills. "i made 4 bil this week, baby." "that's great, boss. now can you finally pay me?" "actually, rudy, that's just on paper. those are -- those are all unrealized gains that i legally cannot spend or borrow against until the six-month lockup period has expired or until the board votes to allow me to cash out. i'm heartbroken, rudy. i really am." "oh, i'll be fine, boss, seth meyers gave me his dinner roll." [ laughter ] again, this is all paper money so far. it's not real yet. just as easily as trump's net worth went up, it can come crashing back down, which is partially what happened on monday when the stock price fell. >> truth social hit the nasdaq last week with a bang, but now it's taking blows. the stock, which is listed as djt, lost roughly $4 billion in

value in its first week of trading. >> the company's stock fell more than 20%, and donald trump's net worth fell more than $1 billion. >> seth: that's right. his net worth fell by $1 billion in one day. he basically lost the entirety of taylor swift's net worth. and by the way, she got that money. that's not theoretical. that's -- she can buy private jets with her debit card. [ laughter ] and she made that money from writing and performing, not from slapping her name on a money-losing twitter rip-off. although she could definitely do that. i'd be the first in line to sign up for a new social media app called taytok, i'd do that. [ laughter ] i would do that. so why? why did the stock suddenly start to tank? well, reality probably caught up with it. the company's value was completely divorced from its underlying business. >> so here's the latest numbers that are concerning investors. truth social owner, trump media lost $58 million last year, and it generated very, very little revenue. just $4.1 million in revenue. and some of this is not shocking

because we know that truth social is struggling. i mean, it is shrinking. monthly active u.s. users on ios and android down 51% year over year. i think all of this just underscores why there's a lot of warnings out there about this stock. right? one professor told me it's a bubble. another basically called it a meme stock. >> seth: there's no way trump knows what a meme stock is. he probably doesn't even know the word "meme." "i own it, it has my name in it, it's a me-me stock." [ laughter ] so the company lost $58 million and more than half of its users. and yet, when it went public, it was first valued at over $7 billion. i'm sure you're asking, "how is that possible?" well there's an actually, perfectly reasonable explanation but it involves a lot of complex financial jargon and some very technical obscure macroeconomic principles that will take me a long time to explain. so just do your best to follow along. ready? the stock market is bull [ bleep ]. [ laughter ] [ cheers and applause ]

by calling it a meme stock, experts are basically comparing the trump stock to gamestop, a stock whose price gets inflated beyond its underlying value by online investors, but in the case of gamestop, there was at least, an actual business. here's how one commentator on the infamous "wall street bets" subreddit explained the situation. "if you invest in this on a long enough timeline, you will lose everything. if you think donald trump is going to create an income-positive social media platform, you are an absolute [ bleep ] moron." [ light laughter ] now, in fairness, that's not just some dude's opinion. he's quoting the company slogan. [ laughter ] agree or disagree, you've got to love the harsh wisdom of reddit investors. reporters and financial experts in the mainstream media are all carefully parsing their words and saying stuff, like "the fundamentals of the business do not support the current market capitalization of the publicly traded securities. if the dudes at reddit ran cnn, the headline would say, "this [ bleep ] is worthless mother [ bleep ]." [ laughter ] and here's the real tell that everyone knows trump's stock is actually worthless. investors are betting against it. "the new york times" reported this week, that traders are betting millions that trump media will tumble.

in fact, the parent company of truth social is a popular target for short sellers. short sellers bet that the price of a stock will fall. they do it by borrowing shares of a company and selling them into the market, hoping to buy them back later at a lower price before returning the shares to the lender and pocketing the difference as profit. again, there's no way trump understands any of that. i guarantee when trump's aides told him investors are shorting his stock, he thought they meant that short people were buying his stock. "look, i don't like the man but i'll gladly take an investment from ron desantis. he can keep his earnings and his little white boots, we love the little white boots." [ laughter ] and yet as if trump stock needed any more reasons to go down in flames, on top of everything else, it is now the subject of a contentious legal battle in which trump is basically trying to kick out the co-founders of the company so he can keep the stock all to himself. >> the former president is suing the co-founders of truth social in an effort to prevent them from keeping shares in the company's stock. the former president's attorneys claim that andy litinsky and wes moss made a series of costly

mistakes that delayed the company from going public. trump's legal team asked the judge to strip both men of their shares in the company. this after litinsky and moss filed a lawsuit in february, claiming that trump and other leaders schemed to dilute their shares prior to a merger, which would allow the company to then go public. >> seth: my god, how many court battles can one person have? this guy is in court more than this lady. [ laughter ] here's what happened. these guys essentially brought the deal to trump. they took the company public. and in the process, they basically dumped a few billion in paper money into his lap, and trump is now thanking them by suing to take their stock away. dude, just take the [ bleep ] "w," your company's worthless. this is like alaska airlines suing the passenger who set next to the open door. [ laughter ] "you should be thanking us for the extra leg room!" the stock market is a casino, it's not the real economy. trump's dumb. his social media company is just the latest example of that. now investors are betting millions that the stock will

collapse. it's kind of like that scene from "the social network." except in this case, the only thing cooler than trump losing a million dollars is losing -- >> a billion dollars. >> seth: this has been "a closer look." ♪ [ cheers and applause ] we'll be right back with kristen wiig, everybody! [ cheers and applause ] ♪

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[ cheers and applause ] ♪ >> seth: give it up for the fantastic 8g band right over there, everybody! [ cheers and applause ] we are so lucky, we have been so lucky to have fred armisen with us all week. thank you, fred, for being back with us. [ cheers and applause ] and fred, i know you to be an incredible artist, and also an incredible friend. and therefore, it's no surprise that you are a great collaborator. you are always working with other people on projects? >> fred: i am. >> seth: yeah. [ laughter ] and this is really cool. our first guest, kristen wiig,

is a dear friend of both of us. but you and her are opening a new museum? >> fred: we are. [ laughter ] we've got this new museum. it's of crutches. it's a crutches museum. >> seth: okay. >> fred: and what we're going to have is like -- we're going to have actors there, like you know, with crutches. so you see how they worked. >> seth: okay, so you didn't just want to have the crutches on the wall, you wanted to have actors showing people? >> fred: yeah, just so this way it's more interactive. and you can ask, "what happened to you?" and then they go "well, i had a skiing accident," or whatever. so each story changes from -- >> seth: that's great, because i would have assumed a crutches museum would have been about the crutches. but it seems like it's about the backstory of the person who needs the crutches? [ laughter ] >> fred: to a degree, yes. >> seth: yeah. [ laughter ] how many actors are working at any given time? >> fred: 26. >> seth: whoa. [ laughter ] >> fred: yeah. >> seth: so exactly 26? >> fred: yes. >> seth: and what is -- can you tell me about an interesting crutch throughout history that maybe we don't know about? >> fred: yes, in 1952 in the olympics, one of the journalists got in the way of one of the

skiers and sort of sprained his ankle. and so -- so he had some crutches for a little while. >> seth: wow. >> fred: yeah. [ laughter ] >> seth: well, how does a journalist get in the way of a -- >> fred: i know. [ laughter ] move! >> seth: give it up for fred, everybody! [ cheers and applause ] our first guest tonight is an emmy and oscar-nominated actress, writer, and comedian you know from "bridesmaids" and "saturday night live," which she returns to host this weekend with musical guest raye. she also stars in "palm royale" which is streaming now on apple tv plus. she's also one of the cofounders of the crutches museum. [ laughter ] please welcome back to the show our friend kristen wiig, everybody! [ cheers and applause ] ♪ ♪

>> seth: hello, there. >> hello! >> seth: it's so nice to have you back in the building. >> i love being back in the building. >> seth: and so nice to be here at the same time with you and fred. it's like bringing you back. >> bringing us back, we're together, before our big venture. >> seth: yeah. [ laughter ] you seem maybe less excited about the crutches museum. >> i'm excited about it. >> seth: okay. >> it was kind of my idea. >> seth: oh, it was? [ laughter ] >> yes. >> seth: that's great. and fred is -- fred, yes ands ideas. if you have an idea for a crutches museum, he's the right guy to talk to. >> because there's so many different kinds of crutches. i don't think people know like the different types. >> seth: yeah. >> and like different regions and like -- yeah, so it's -- >> seth: so it's interesting. i asked fred to name an interesting type of crutch, instead he told me a story about how somebody got hurt. [ laughter ] and needed crutches. i'm wondering -- not to put you on the spot, but what is an interesting kind of crutch people don't know about? >> i think people underestimate

the padding that goes under your arms. >> sure. >> because that's really -- the crutch. >> seth: yeah. [ laughter ] fred, i'm assuming that piece has a name? >> fred: the under? the underarm crutch, crescent. [ laughter ] >> seth: really good. really exciting. >> he's right. we're going to sell out. >> fred: sell out. >> seth: this is very exciting. this is your fifth time hosting "snl." >> yes, yes. thank you. [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: i -- being on the show gets a little easier, but only a little. i mean -- >> yeah, yeah, yeah. >> seth: over the course of the years. >> yes. >> seth: it never gets easy. do you find hosting gotten a little bit easier? >> no. [ laughter ] >> seth: i think that's good. >> i think because the essence of the show is that you don't know what it is ever. even until 11:30. there's just -- you don't know. >> seth: yeah. >> yeah, that never goes away.

>> seth: so you -- >> but it's easier than -- >> seth: it's easier, but -- i always said when i was at the show, the hosts who weren't nervous were the ones about to lay a real turd. >> yeah. [ laughter ] i would just say, i feel like that's just the energy of the show. like you're supposed to be nervous, i think. >> seth: yes. so you were not, even leading into this week, i'm assuming you were not sleeping well? >> no. >> seth: yeah. >> no, i was up till just -- just writing things in my head, just -- you know. your brain goes. >> seth: i do think it's very exciting any time someone hosts the show who is also good at writing for the show, which you were also a terrific writer. >> thank you very much. thank you. [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: and you not only hosted, you've also come back when some of our loved ones have hosted. >> yes. >> seth: you did an abba sketch recently. >> yes. >> seth: when kate was there, you and maya came back. [ laughter ] >> i love the picture of me laughing. >> seth: yeah. >> being so unprofessional. >> seth: by the way, you did not pull it together by the next shot. [ laughter ]

>> look what i'm looking at? yeah. would you be able to keep it together? i mean -- >> seth: did you have someone in our time of the show who made you more susceptible to breaking than others? >> i mean, fred made me laugh. >> seth: yeah. >> quite a bit. and i feel like forte probably. >> seth: yep. >> you just never knew when the explosion was going to happen. [ laughter ] yes. >> seth: i -- you and forte are in one of my favorite movie scenes of all-time, which is the love scene in "macgruber." >> yes. the love -- the love scene. >> seth: the love scene in "macgruber." [ laughter ] i remember i was in albuquerque, new mexico, that day. and it was maybe 1,000 degrees. >> it was so hot. and it was my birthday. i don't know if you know that. >> seth: i don't know, happy birthday, yeah. >> and -- kind of gross. but the amount of sweat that can pool in someone's chest above you, and then just release on you.

[ laughter ] we were just soaking wet. >> seth: yeah. >> i mean, it was so hot. we couldn't have the air conditioning on because of sound. >> seth: yeah. >> we were in albuquerque. it was august, i think. >> seth: it was august. >> my birthday, yeah, august. it was really -- >> seth: it's funny, because when i see the scene, i feel like -- >> it's beautiful? >> seth: no. but it was -- there was like -- there was a glistening that i bet on a regular sort of movie -- >> that's all makeup. >> seth: they work really hard for, right. people are like," how did they do that?" i'm like, "it was hot as balls." >> we were upstairs -- there was like everything that could make something hot. >> seth: do you feel like you were the kind of person who, while you were breaking, you would try to fight through it and that would just make it worse? >> yes. >> seth: yeah. >> yes. because as soon as you start, the person you're looking at knows you're breaking, then they start to break, then you start laughing, and it's very difficult. i try not to do it. >> seth: you're very good at not doing it, which i think makes it more rewarding when you do. >> yeah.

[ laughter ] >> seth: i've always said, like, i -- when people say, do you miss "snl"? i always say, i very much miss being the age that i was at "snl." because it is a very taxing week. you're now doing it with -- the twins are four years old now? >> yes, yes. >> seth: and do you feel like you still have the energy for it? >> um -- i mean -- yes? because when you get into host mode, you're nervous and running around. but -- yeah. i need my sleep. i can't. >> seth: yeah. >> like we -- we sound so old. we were young -- >> seth: i know, it's crazy. >> but we were. we would stay up until 5:00, 6:00 in the morning working on stuff and it was like no big deal. >> seth: i also sometimes -- we both still write. and sometimes in my head, i think i still have that, those muscles. it'll be like, "you know what? i know that thing's due tomorrow, i'm just going to pull an all-nighter." and literally at 10:30 i'm like, or i'm going to go to bed and tell them it's not coming. >> yes. [ laughter ] >> seth: tell them i didn't do it and i'm going to give them the money back. >> i'm older. i'm older.

>> seth: we did talk about -- i'm lucky enough to know your beautiful children. and last time you were here, which was awhile ago, we talked -- they were little babies, and you'd put wigs on them. >> yeah. >> seth: have they outgrown -- or have you out grown putting wigs on them? >> no, no, no, it's the best. [ laughter ] >> seth: do they love your wig time with you. [ light laughter ] >> we have a basket of wigs in their playroom. so -- i'll justing sitting at the table, and it's like -- they'll just come in wearing a wig, just playing with something. and to me, that's the funniest thing ever, they're wearing a wig. they walk around, it's like, you are my children. >> seth: that's your dream. >> that's my dream. >> seth: if you said, pick out kristen wiig's children, i'd be like, those two -- >> those two that are in the wig, yes. >> seth: also like to be in wigs and not be playing it as a joke, that's really a kristen wiig character. >> and they're adult wigs. [ laughter ] so they're like too big. and yes, there's way too much hair. >> seth: they're all very low bangs.

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[ cheers and applause ] ♪ >> we don't own the house yet. >> we don't have to. besides, someone's got to keep an eye on it, protect the family interest. >> i don't like the idea of thinking about you alone in the house with some strange man. >> is my douglas jealous? >> your dougie is worried. >> i can hear you gnawing on your paw, stop. you're not going to have any fingers left. besides, he's not so strange.

he's a veteran. and it's so much nicer than the motel. peg in room 103 was essentially an axe murderer. she was very open about that. this guy just walks around with his shirt off all the time, he's fine. >> seth: welcome back. we're here with kristen wiig. [ cheers and applause ] that is a clip from her fantastic new show "palm royale." the show is very funny. this show looks beautiful. >> it -- i have -- yes. i mean, i have nothing to do with that. >> seth: it's really gorgeous and really funny. >> thank you. >> seth: you play a former pageant queen who is trying to weasel her way into high society in palm beach. >> yeah. >> seth: based on a book. >> yes. >> seth: and this is an incredible cast. i want to just point -- direct everyone to, the great carol burnett. >> oh, my gosh. >> seth: it's just so wonderful in the same way -- >> yes. [ applause ] >> seth: it's so thrilling any time i see you on screen with maya or with kate, i have the same feelings when i see you with carol burnett. even and including the fact that the first three episodes, she's in a coma. [ laughter ] >> she doesn't talk. [ laughter ]

>> seth: so you're doing a lot of coma work. >> i am, which is hard, you guys, it's hard. >> seth: you know, that is a -- this -- i mean, i read her say that it was very hard for her to keep a straight face. and you know, they say you can really not break when you're playing a coma patient. [ light laughter ] >> you can't. >> seth: it takes people right out of it. >> unless you're having a funny dream or something. no, she's everything and more. i mean, i -- she inspired me so much. yeah. i just -- she's a light. i just cannot say enough about her. >> seth: it's so funny, those moments. talking recently with andy samberg about how stressful it was when you'd be in "snl" and somebody like steve martin would come through. you know when it's actual comedy heroes. you get to do a scene with them. do you get -- because again, it's so funny, and you knew as a producer, you knew the material was good. but you still get a little bit nervous the first day carol burnett shows up on set? >> oh, yeah. yeah. i was like -- did she like, did she like, did she think that was funny? [ laughter ] because it's like -- you know, it's -- like i said, it's carol burnett. and yeah, she's -- but she's so generous and makes you feel super comfortable.

and she's just -- she's the best. >> seth: it did -- the look, the feel, the location did remind me of one of my favorite movies of the last five years," barb and star go to vista del mar." [ cheers ] i like that you -- what is it that -- >> i don't know. >> seth: that draws you to characters that are sort of in these beautiful places and maybe don't fit in? >> i thought you were going to say, both take place in florida. [ laughter ] because that was a mistake. i don't know. there's just something about playing someone that thinks they should be somewhere they're not supposed to be that's fun, i guess. >> seth: yeah. >> i don't -- i don't know. >> seth: it's really -- it is fun. >> yeah. >> seth: did you -- when -- i just have -- when you were doing table reads for this. >> yes. >> seth: and you have the great carol burnett. >> yeah. >> seth: and you're doing table reads. you have her come in -- >> well, she didn't really have to come because she's -- >> seth: yeah. >> lying there. >> seth: yeah. [ laughter ] >> but she came. >> seth: she's such a pro, she came. >> she came to the table reads. she moaned and groaned. [ laughter ]

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♪ [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: our next guest is a very talented comedian, actor, and director you know from the film "trainwreck" and his broadway shows "the new one" and the old man in the pool." he's the subject of the documentary special "good one: a show about jokes" which is streaming on peacock, let's take a look. ♪ >> when i was a kid, i feel like everything in my life was me trying to express, like, writing poetry, writing essays, writing jokes, drawing, painting, writing plays. ♪ and just, like, in every direction, people just being like, "yeah, i don't think that's for you." and they didn't mean any harm by it. they just thought i was this kid who, like, trips a lot. [ laughter ] >> seth: please welcome back to the show our good friend mike birbiglia!

[ cheers and applause ] ♪ ♪ >> seth: welcome back. >> well, i -- it's so funny, you were talking about the crutches museum. because i'm a frequent visitor to the crutches museum. >> seth: you go? >> my favorite thing about it -- yeah, i feel like you have sort of an incredulity about the crutches museum -- >> seth: i do. >> existence at all. >> seth: yeah. >> you got to go. >> seth: okay. >> you got to see it to believe it, right, fred? >> fred: yes, you have to see it to believe it. [ laughter ] >> got to see it to believe it, which is the slogan of the crutches museum. and what they do is, they do a -- there's an area where you can do a demo. they fit you for crutches. >> seth: okay. they it if you for the crescent? >> they it if you -- they make sure -- >> seth: that looks like you're doing wheelchair. >> no, no, i'm -- [ laughter ] >> seth: you don't do both at the same time? okay. that's a walker.

that's a walker. [ laughter ] >> i've been to all three museums. >> seth: oh, okay, okay. >> i've been to all three museums and i sometimes mistake one for the other. >> seth: all right, go ahead, you're going to tell me something. >> well, i want to say -- i had you -- first of all, we did "the good one" show together, the documentary, which -- such an honor. >> seth: it was wonderful wonderful. it was wonderful to have you as a subject. >> and then i was lucky enough to have you on my podcast "working it out" recently. >> seth: which is a wonderful podcast, "working it out." you talk to comedians about material they're working on, a very novel idea, i enjoyed it a great deal. >> i was talking to fred backstage about i enjoy having you on because i could grill you and ask you questions. cause usually it's just you asking me. >> seth: right. >> and i just noticed some quirks about you. >> seth: oh. >> i don't do impressions. but i was asking fred what his impression is of you. >> seth: of me? >> well, here's my -- mine of you is simple. it's just, buddy buddy buddy

buddy buddy. i got to go, you know and then -- [ light laughter ] >> seth: interesting. >> and then you're gone. that's the whole impression. >> seth: okay. >> so it's pretty much just a very friendly buddy buddy buddy -- gone. >> seth: okay. >> puff of smoke. and then fred, what's your impression of seth? you've worked with him for so long. >> fred: mine is of seth when he's telling a story and he was mad at that person. so he's kind of like -- "because i heard you the first time." [ laughter and applause ] >> buddy buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy buddy, buddy because i heard you the first time! >> seth: i mean, it's like looking in a mirror. [ light laughter ] i want to say, because i did enjoy talking to you on your podcast. and you said something very complimentary about me, which does kind of tie into how i leave. one of the reasons i just disappear in a puff of smoke, you said this about me, i have an incredibly good sense of timing. >> you're absurdly punctual. >> seth: yeah.

>> to the point where it would be -- over the years, we've had lunch a handful of times, and you'll -- it will be noon, we'll have lunch, and on the minute of 60 minutes, you'll be like, buddy buddy buddy buddy and then you're gone. [ light laughter ] and it's like a puff of smoke. you're like a superhero with no skills. >> you know what, i'm glad you said -- i'm glad you said punctual. sometimes i feel like punctual, everybody is over -- they're putting too much in the inpoint. there's also an outpoint for punctuality. like, you don't have to worry you're going to over -- you're going to be, "sorry, i was late for the next thing because of seth." no, hour, boom, we're done. >> you -- i appreciate it. >> seth: yeah. >> i appreciate it. >> seth: thank you. i can tell you do. because of the way you're saying it. [ laughter ] you know, i -- >> you know what? >> seth: you know what? >> you know what? okay. so -- this is all love.

>> seth: sure. >> it's all love. no, but it was -- no, it was so fun to have you on the podcast. but then literally on the podcast, we talked about how at the hour mark, in a puff of smoke you're gone. and then at the end of the interview, it's like 75 minutes, and you were completely gone. >> seth: yeah. >> and the other day we were on the "today" show. >> seth: we did the "today" show together. >> together as a -- like a -- the comedy buy duo that nobody asked for. [ light laughter ] and it was hoda and jenna who are hilarious. and they -- we did this game with alison brie. >> seth: yes. >> she was also involved. and the gist of it was, everyone comes up with an embarrassing like factoid about themself. and then hoda and jenna guess who it is. >> seth: right. >> mine was, i created a -- a rap song about not using drugs for the d.a.r.e. program in sixth grade. >> seth: yeah. very embarrassing. >> it was embarrassing. >> seth: yeah. >> and then alison's was, she had like -- she got her tongue

pierces for like eight hours and then reversed. >> seth: yeah. >> here's what seth's -- >> seth: okay, hold on. >> seth's was that he was in paris? >> seth: no, i was hiking in the alps. >> he was in the alps. >> seth: paris in the summer. [ laughter ] >> he was -- he was -- he was mistaken for bradley cooper. [ laughter ] it's not embarrassing at all. it's the opposite of the assignment. [ laughter ] it's like me being like, oh, i got mistaken for schwarzenegger in milan. you know what i mean? like, first of all, that doesn't happen. second of all, it's just not self-deprecating. >> seth: it's a little embarrassing for bradley cooper. [ laughter ] can i say what happened? >> yeah. >> seth: and this is what happened. the "today" show, you go do the "today" show and they say, hey, could you come up with six things that are embarrassing?

and i'm just -- i -- so like, what? then they said, we found? stories you've told other places. >> right. >> seth: and i promise when i first told the bradley cooper story, it was self-deprecating. but i should have caught it and said, this is bad for the game. but also, bud, it happened. [ laughter ] >> buddy buddy buddy buddy buddy, buddy, buddy. i gotta go, i gotta go! it's always -- [ light laughter ] >> seth: yeah. that's what i said to the french people. you -- this is a wonderful documentary special. it's about your process as a writer. and one of the things you had to agree to do, and it's very interesting, and i highly recommend everybody watch it, you had to give access to people, not just to shoot you on stage, but also shoot you talking about comedy, working through material. was it -- did you feel vulnerable? >> it was hard. because the hardest part of, you know -- i did "the old man and the pool" special which just came out at lincoln center last year. and then, once that's done, i'm out of -- i don't have a new hour. i don't have a new act.

so we go out, some of the stuff bombs. and it feels bad. i mean, you -- >> seth: yeah. >> stand-up, fred does stand-up, when it doesn't go well, it's hard. >> seth: yeah. >> and so to give that access, you know, eddie schmidt who directed it, jesse fox who co-created it, is hard because they can do anything. they can take footage -- they can do a super cut of me eating french fries, you know what i mean? like 50 hours of footage. they can make it anything. and then people are like, "yeah, mike and french fries," you know what i mean? and so you have to put trust into the idea. then it turned out wonderfully. i -- this literally just happened last night. i was at the comedy cellar working out new material here in new york. someone who's a fan of "good one" which just came out, i walk onstage, and they go, "good one!" which is normally a heckle. [ light laughter ] it's literally what you would say if someone sucks at comedy. "good one!"

and i was like, "oh, you saw good one, all right." so there's some good one heads out there. >> seth: well it's funny cause your podcast is called "working it out." and if you told a joke and someone called "working it out?" also a heckle. >> that's right. "not there yet! [ light laughter ] keep at it!" >> seth: "old man in the pool" and i think all your shows, your specials, have a real humanity to them in a way that people connect with them. and you are telling stories that are both unique to you but also i think experienced by a lot of people. i think that's why people -- that's why they endure and they're really special. "old man in the pool" is a cool special. it's about you, it's about health issues, about getting older. is it something that people approach you about a lot? >> people -- the people -- i really appreciate that people came out to it, that they've watched it on netflix. i -- it's funny. i don't have -- every now and then, i'll end up in a conversation where someone will bring it up. i was at a movie recently, someone came up to me and they said, like, to their friend,

like, "this is mike birbiglia." the woman was a casting director. and she goes, "oh, okay." then she goes, she goes, "he's the star of the 'old man and the pool on broadway.'" and the casting director, who does this professionally, goes, "oh, mike birbiglia, i thought you were big and fat." [ light laughter ] and i wouldn't recommend saying that socially as sort of an open-ended, where could this conversation go? because it just sort of sat there. and i go, "yeah, i guess, i don't know." i mean, apparently that's the file i'm in in the casting office. i'm not in the "looks like bradley cooper" file. [ laughter and applause ] >> seth: yeah, yeah. >> buddy buddy buddy buddy, buddy, buddy. >> seth: you're going on the road. >> yes. >> seth: going to oklahoma, going on texas. >> i'm going -- part of the reasons i go to texas and oklahoma, there's so much space.

it's so hard to drive this long space. one time i was driving from houston to weatherford, oklahoma, which i'm not even sure is a town. [ light laughter ] some of the places i visit are just an applebee's with a dream. [ light laughter ] the -- i'm driving. and i was running out of gas. and what's tricky about that is, in oklahoma, there's parts of the state that just -- there isn't anything. like, there isn't -- there aren't molecules. you know what i mean? they -- they're just like, we're nowhere in space and time! you know what i mean? but we have two senators, which is odd, by the way. >> seth: yeah. >> i do think that that is an odd thing about oklahoma. but i -- but i was running out of gas. and i -- literally, i was desperate. and i was like, oh, there's a town coming up. and it was as though god was playing a joke on me. the town was corn. [ light laughter ] corn, oklahoma. and they don't have gas. ethanol. they do have ethanol. and --

>> seth: solid corn joke. [ light laughter ] but i got -- i got to weatherford, i did the show. it was at this big gymnasium at a college. it was wonderful. and i will say, we talk on "good one," people ask us a lot, where's the best place to perform, where's the worst place to perform? you probably get that a lot. >> seth: i do, yes. >> i'm going to oklahoma partly because they love comedy there. >> seth: yeah. >> you find in the cities where they really want you to show up, people have been asking me to come to tulsa for a while, and i'm like, i'm going this time. i'm super optimistic. when people love comedy, they generally have a great time at the shows. >> seth: well, have a great weekend. it's lovely to see you here. >> you too. [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: mike birbiglia. "good one: a show about jokes" streaming on peacock. we'll be right back with more "late night." [ cheers and applause ] ♪ doug ♪ hello, ghostbusters. it's doug... ... of doug and limu. we help people customize and save hundreds on car insurance with liberty mutual. anyway, we got a bit of a situation here. ♪♪

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