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second thoughts. bombshell reporting from "the new york times" says president biden told a key ally he knows he may not be able to salvage his campaign for re-election, depending on what happens in the coming days. the white house strongly disputing that reporting. as the president meets with top democrats today. >> holiday heat wave, why the timing of these dangerously high temperatures is sparking major concerns. land of the freeway, if you're planning to travel over the next few days, buckle up, airports and interstates nationwide are jammed right now, we'll tell you how to avoid the very worst of it. and the best of chums, in sunny california, shark attacks are rare even though sharks aren't. but we begin this hour with a stunning new report from "the new york times" it says president biden told a key ally

that he knows he may not be able to bounce back from his performance at the first presidential debate, the times quoting one ally, the first indication to become public that the president is seriously considering whether he can recover from what happened at the debate, today the white house insisting the president is not going anywhere, that anonymous source also adding in "the new york times" and biden said if he has two more events like that debate we're in a different place. nbc news hasn't independent confirmed that conversation and the white house says the president is not withdrawing his candidacy. a white house spokesperson blasting the times report. calling it absolutely false. a source tells nbc news that president biden and vice president harris joined an all-staff call with their campaign today leading us off this hour is monica alba.

monica, good to see you. what do we know about what was said on that call between the president, vice president and the campaign staffers. >> reporter: it's telling kate they decided that really the situation was such that the president and vice president felt they needed to join this call and deliver this message together and the president really pledged to keep on fighting, he said i'm not leaving, no one is pushing me out, i intend to be the nominee and i intend to stay in this race and i intend to win in november, so really not leaving any wiggle room. you're hearing from the president and the vice president for the first time to convey that message. the vice president for her part said she really believes that joe biden has been fighting for the american people for decades and that now it's their turn and the vice president's turn to fight for him and have his back, that was the message they tried to convey and the white house chief of staff tried to convey a similar message to the staff

around the building today that has been anxious for some kind of reassurance. >> biden's level of support in congress critical in coming days, two key supporters nancy pelosi and congressman jim clyburn, both addressed concerns about his health. clyburn talked about harris taking over the top. >> i think it's legitimate question to say, is this an episode or a condition? >> i want this ticket to continue to be biden/harris. we should do everything we can to bolster her or at the top of the ticket. >> another congresswoman said the president needs to be out in public in a sustained way, monica, what is the white house, what is the campaign doing to

try to reach democrats and deal with everything we just laid out? >> reporter: definitely over the last couple of days, kate, there were at lot of questions raised about why the president wasn't out there more, didn't hold a press conference, wasn't doing more interviews. we'll see those things i just mentioned in the coming days. he'll be sitting down for a big exclusive interview with a different net work on friday, traveling to michigan on friday, he'll be heading to pennsylvania on sunday, and then next week is this huge nato summit hosted here in washington, did. c., where the president will hold a news conference, these next couple of days are critical for the president to be out there as many people are calling for and clearly you played in those sound bite the top congressional leadership is also suggesting that he really needs to go out there and prove that, so we'll see how that all plays out in the next several weeks. the marathon heat wave is

causing major concerns for the holiday, take a look at some of the highs today in northern california, sacramento, fresno, stockton, could all hit 110, 111. as for tomorrow, it could be the hottest fourth of july in the bay area in nearly a century, these conditions are already sparking dangerous wildfires in in the region and now crews are worried about potential fireworks that could ignite even more fires. bill karins is tracking the heat, but let's start with morgan chesky out in los angeles, morgan, talk to us about the conditions firefighters are facing as they battle those fires in california? >> reporter: kate, brutal conditions, triple-digit temps, the increased sustained gusts of wind that are proving to be dangerous here. this is from butte county, fire crews are battling the thompson fire, already burned 3,000 acres in 24 hours, that number going

up, potentially drastically if these hot windy conditions continue. kate, more than 28,000 people have already been evacuate as a result of the blaze you're looking at here, and we know it's just one of 17 fires burning across the state at this hour, here's what firefighters are saying about the conditions they're facing, on the front lines. >> we're fully staffed in anticipation of this red-flag warning and the conditions out there that are in our county this summer are much different than we experienced the last two summers, it's very dense, the brush is dry and as you can see any wind will move a fire very quickly. >> reporter: now that fire that thompson fire is about 90 minutes north of sacramento, governor newsom has issued a state of emergency the cause still under investigation. if you look at the entire state here, kate, because of the potentially record-high temps

and the record temps as well combined with windy conditions, pacific gas and electric they've had to temporarily shut off power in at least eight counties or portions of those counties out of concern that these conditions could spark fires there and lead to even more devastation, so you have people facing triple-digit temps in rural areas that may not have power as a concern -- out of concern, rather for more potential danger here. >> no power means no air-conditioning right in that heat. >> exactly. bill karins, how is all of this going to play out over the holiday weekend. >> for travel it's not going to be an issue, being outside, the dangers grow day by day, and this isn't your normal heat wave, this could be an all-timer for a few isolated spots. 112 million in the heat

advisories. many locations are going to be 100 to 120 in the west. as far as highs go today, interior sections of california, one of the hottest days you've had in the last three years. toward the weekend, palm springs, 121. death valley, forecasting about 129 or so. las vegas, you have a shot at your all-time hottest temperature ever recorded on monday of 118, the record is 119. >> oh, my goodness. 118. bill karins and morgan chesky, thank you both. the weather is not so far having a huge impact on what's expected to be record-setting holiday travel rush, if you're driving today's expected to be one of the worst days for traffic this year, at the airports more than 5.7 million people are projected to fly this fourth of july week that's

according to aaa. priya is at the world's busiest airport, hartsfield-jackson, how are the crowds looking? what is the airport doing to try and handle the rest of the travel week? >> reporter: kate, one of things they pride themselves on is not being the busiest airport but being the most efficient. one of things that tsa administrator told us today they're trying to get every through those tsa checkpoints through 30 minutes. let's take a listen to what he had to say today. >> what we have a cadre of officers who volunteered to go to any airport where we have staffing challenges. we determine which airports are going to be the busiest and we have staff.

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retreat in the bahamas and her family is growing worried and frustrated. the royal bahamas police force said taylor casey was last seen in the area of paradise island a small island off of nassau, they put out that missing persons notice, her family traveling to the island resort pleading with american authorities to join the search. maggie vespa, casey's mother and other loved ones went down to bahamas last week, sounds like they were frustrated, they wanted answers. you spoke with them. what are they saying about what might have happened. >> essentially kate, they're afraid that taylor casey could have been targeted, could have been abducted, wandered off and something happened. she was a healthy, stable person getting her yoga teaching certification to come back to chicago to use it. they were alarmed by the status

of the investigation, they say for instance they saw inside her tent, they say that should have been roped off like a crime scene, but they say it seemed open to the public and they also told this story about why police and hotel staff said that at least initially they didn't inform all the guests at the retreat that someone had gone missing. take a listen to this. >> yes, we were told that tourists and guests of the ashram a and the hotel weren't informed about taylor's disappearance they were on vacation. >> they were on vacation? >> they were on vacation. >> reporter: we've reached out to police and to the retreat and they dispute that pointing out coming out with a missing persons, they thread the needle

a little bit and the family said their big concern is every guest alerted at the retreat. >> maggie the royal bahamas police force said they found casey's cell phone. have we heard anything from the u.s. state department or the yoga program in. >> reporter: we haven't heard from the state department. fbi referred us back to the bahama yan police force. police there found the phone in the ocean. they haven't been able to find her wallet or passport at this point, so do what you will with that. the yoga retreat, on paradise island, saying, we did our best to provide casey's family with support. guests were able to speak freely to the family when the family

came to visit and they've been keeping everybody regularly updated. meanwhile, police, we have video from their press conference last week, they've been diligent about this. there's the presser they held about an american that's gone missing. they're worried about things -- they just feel like -- they want the fbi onboard helping to find taylor. >> maggie, thank you. if you haven't registered this yet, tomorrow's the fourth of july, final preparations are under way and everybody's going to be celebrating, barbecues and parades and fireworks, this year we have everything you need to know if you're planning your cookout or your travel tomorrow, because nbc business and data

correspondent brian cheung has to run the numbers. give me the numbers on, let's start with food. >> food in terms of how much people are expected to spend, $9.4 billion in total food cost across this country. a large part of it is cracking open some cold ones. when it comes to average cost of hosting a barbecue, $71.22 for party of ten. >> for ten people. >> i broke down the numbers. it's two pounds of ground beef, three pounds of pork chops. is that enough for ten? a really hungry ten maybe not the case, add a bunch of sides, too. if you're cooking at home, though, a lot cheaper than going out to eat, right. >> and travel-wise, tons of us

on the road. >> let's take a look at those figures here, 70.9 million people are expected to travel according to aaa. the drivers, gas prices are about two cents cheaper they were this time last year, that's not necessarily going to give you too much padding in your wallet. 5.74 million will fly and top destinations are seattle, orlando and anchorag zbleshgs that's interesting the reason why seattle and anchorage, these are big launching points for alaskan cruises. orlando for the theme parks. very common vacations. >> i love that, though, we're showing right now in seattle and anchorage. beautiful places. >> beautiful places. and a fun way to spend. >> i've been there. brian, thank you. coming up, the wnba

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area from fires to power outages. but before we talk about all that, let's bring in meteorologist kari hall for a closer look at this extreme heat. it's going to be another really hot day across the bay area with a high fire danger. as we deal with these hot days, warm nights and very breezy winds and low humidity that increases the fire danger as we approach the 4th of july. but it's also a spare the air alert day as we deal with wildfire smoke and ozone pollution. our high temperatures for this afternoon will reach up to 105. in napa, 110 in vacaville, concord and fairfield. and for the south bay, it's up to 104 today in morgan hill. most of

the peninsula in the 80s. and that includes san francisco as well. and it's going to be also very hot on the 4th of july with triple digit temperatures widespread for a lot of our inland valleys. we are getting new video of a wildfire burning in butte county. right now it is the thompson fire just outside of oroville, southeast of chico. it started just before noon yesterday and it's now burned over 3000 acres. still no containment, at least four homes destroyed. and we've also learned four firefighters suffered minor injuries on the front lines. governor newsom is declaring a state of emergency for butte county. about 28,000 people under evacuation orders of course, we will continue to follow this story and bring you more information in our afternoon newscasts. many without power this afternoon in the east bay, the hot weather causing blackouts are bob redell reports. although this morning's temperatures were bearable, homeowners are in for a long day of dodging this heat. pg&e estimates the power won't be

back on for the people who live in this neighborhood behind me in san ramon, just off bollinger canyon and talavera drive until later this afternoon, possibly dinnertime, you'll know that the traffic signals that those have been turned back on us because of the city of san ramon did this. they brought in a portable generator to plug into the light box. here's a look at the pg&e power outage page on their website. there are still hundreds without power in the bay area. the green circles represent up to 50 customers without electricity, the yellow diamonds up to 501 of those yellow diamonds sits atop this neighborhood. behind us, contra costa county, by the way, where we're at right now, just over 2600 people without or customers without power. alameda just over 200 customers. this morning we caught up with julie fiedler, who lives in the neighborhood behind us. she was watering her lawn before another day of triple digits, and in trying to figure out where she'll spend the day. the power has been out in her home since dinnertime last night. she needs the

electricity and internet connection to work remotely, which means she'll probably have to find a local coffee shop to hunker down and log on. it's really a drag, all right? it's very hot. it's miserable. everybody's irritable, but we'll get through it. how hot is the house, it's not bad, right now. 76 upstairs and 72 down. but that's going to. it won't last long now. pg&e says it's probable this week's heat wave will knock out power again. they are holding a news conference at 2:00 and is urging customers to conserve, put off those chores that use a lot of electricity until later in the day before demand for air conditioning kicks in. here in san ramon. bob redell nbc, bay area news. thanks, bob. san francisco police asking people to avoid the area of 14th street and roosevelt way. right now. that's in the corona heights neighborhood. this is video from nbc bay area sky ranger sf police assisting the sf sheriff's office in investigation. but not revealing any details yet. but you can see

a lot of emergency personnel. we even saw an armored vehicle. we will bring you more information as it comes into our newsroom. cupertino is canceling its planned 4th of july fireworks show. the annual event is no longer happening in an attempt to close a multi-million dollar budget deficit. meanwhile, one north bay city is now reversing its safe and sane fireworks policy ahead of july fourth. cloverdale is now officially banning all sales and use of fireworks. until yesterday, it was one of the few cities allowing it. leaders are citing this year's increased fire risk and tomorrow night's fireworks show at cloverdale high school is still scheduled, but it's possible that may be modified or even canceled, depending on the conditions. there are still some beautiful professional fireworks shows going on, as well as parades and many other events, and we've compiled a list of safe ways to celebrate the 4th of july. just scan the qr code on your screen with your smartphone. you can also get to nbcbayarea.com to get a list of

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attendance at a gathering tuesday when people started rushing to touch the hindu preacher who's hosting the event. they'll investigated a what happened. delta airlines says it's trying to figure out how some passengers were served spoiled meals. the red-eye flight took off from detroit late last night, it was headed for the netherlands in europe, but had to be diverted to jfk, new york, after those people were treated that spoiled food. delta apologized. it's trying to determine which products were spoiled. wnba stars caitlin clark and angel reese have been named to the all-star team in their first season in the league. this is the first time that two rookies have been wnba all-stars since 2014, caitlin clark received the most votes in fan portion of the voting. she leads all rookie in scoring. angel reese finished in fifth place in fan voting.

she's the league leader in rebounds. right now, the hurricane beryl is crossing over jamaica, the storm has already killed at least seven people across the ca caribbean, winds have torn the roofs off homes and smashed boats around the island and beryl is expected to leave even more devastation in its wake. sam brock is in kingston, jamaica. >> reporter: hurricane beryl is plowing through the caribbean right now, sustaining winds around 140 miles per hour, even now, not just a category 4 hurricane but a solid strong category 4. kingston, southeastern portion of the island, we're not feeling those winds, over my shoulder right now at the hillside, you see some rain coming down, not particularly hard. we're not feeling those hurricane-force winds. this system is about 60 miles

southeast from where we are. it's possible that at least here we escape the worst of it. but the western portion of jamaica could be pummelled in the hours ahead the prime minister for the country came out last night and said the entire island is a disaster area, he implemented a curfew and he may have to protectively turns things off like power and electricity. folks buying supplies. i spoke with a mom and her niece earlier today. the biggest impact is on communication and electricity. they're worried about those loved one receiving medical care will be able to continue to do so. that's what's top of mind right now. i'd add there are at least 20 or more shelters open where we are. i spoke with a disaster coordinator there, as of last night, posted on the state's

website they weren't showing any shelters that are open, clearly changed today, some of them are being filled up. not clear by any stretch a large portion of people migraing at least here. sam brock, nbc news. there's a ballot proposal in california this fall that would increase penalties for certain property theft and drug offensives a move away from a law passed in 2014 in the state called prop 47, that law reclassified certain felony crimes as misdemeanors including drug possession and petty theft the goal was to reduce the prison population, but voters in california will now decide whether to make changes to that. dana griffin is following all of this for us. dana, good to see you. what's behind the push to get the law changed in this ballot

initiative. >> reporter: prop 47. 2014-voter approved law that reduce those punishments for nonviolent drug possessions. in recent years, retailers have faced significant challenges with property crime, the viral smash and grab videos, criticism across the country that california is soft on crime, so to tackle that issue, voters approved an anti-crime measure that voters will approve this november. >> this has gotten political in california, right, especially over the last few days. >> reporter: so, the november ballot measure the homelessness drug addiction and theft reduction act slated to roll back prop 47, that's already on the ballot, well on monday, the governor and democratic legislative leaders introduced their own bill to rival that aept-crime bill, it would implement new penalties for

repeat offenders, cut down on serial shoplifters. kate, this is an issue thaw you've highlighted on reporting on families devastated by deadly fentanyl poisoning. many californians were counting on this bill to be approved. it imploded yesterday when it said the california governor were unable to meet the ballot deadline. they're criticizing the governor, he was in d.c. meeting with president biden and other governors to help with the presidential race. governor's office is saying he'll soon sign a public safety package that will be the most significant reform in decades to try appease voters that he's trying to do something but obviously it's been a huge eye roll in state and lot of people frustrated with the politics and the back and forth. >> so bottom line, though, the ballot proposal originally on the ballot that's still going to

be on the ballot? >> that will still be on the ballot. on rolling back prop 47, they just won't have a second option which may be frustrating for some people but for others they're very happy there's at least something on the table to try to make it harder for criminals to get away with some of these crimes. >> dana griffin, thank you so much. north carolina is one of several swing states where democrats and republicans are really focusing their election efforts, back in 2020, there were more than 200,000 registered latino voters there, however only a little more than half of them actually voted in the general election, nbc news daily anchor morgan radford spoke with latino voters about where they stand. >> reporter: here in wake county, north carolina, the temperature is rising. but interest in election among these latino voters.

>> i just don't know who to lean for. >> reporter: it's hot. >> not particularly excited in this moment about this election. >> reporter: leads a voter outreach. its goal to reach 5,000 latino voters this election here. a feat they say is harder than it's been before. >> you know, in 2020 the last presidential election i think that it was so much clearer to people, kind of what we were up against, and what the choice was, and how the two candidates were different. i think that all of that felt sharper. >> reporter: north carolina's latino population has increased by 40% in the last decade, but latino voter turnout here has actually decreased, lagging non-hispanic turnout in both the midterms and the 2024 primaries, it's a trend they say is due in part to a misunderstanding of what latino voters here actually want from either candidate. >> i think if either one of them

had a coherent plan that was like, your kid will not get shot in school, here's what we're going to do about guns, and talk about that to latino voters, i think this would be a completely different conversation. >> reporter: another issue resonating here, a series of i.c.e. raids, under the trump administration, that saw hundreds of people detained across the state. >> they saw a thing happen over and over again where people got taken who weren't even the person that i.c.e. was looking for, and so i think that that had a really big impact in our community, in creating a lot of fear, and causing a lot of chaos. >> reporter: an issue that ultimately played a role in sheriffs from the state's three most populous counties losing re-election in 2018. it's one reason 19-year-old avila says she's leaning toward biden. >> right now, the immigration laws going on have been very impactful to how my family lives. >> reporter: you say you're still undecided. are you excited about voting for either candidate?

>> i mean, not necessarily. >> reporter: sounds to me like you're almost choosing reluctantly, between two options you don't love. am i hearing that correctly? >> yeah. >> reporter: a sentiment the state's republican party is hoping to capitalize on. when you're out here talking to latino voters, what is the number one issue you talk about to recruit them? >> the economy is definitely the number of one issue. >> why, what do you say? >> we talk about, hey, where grocery prices this high when president trump was president, were gas prices this high when president trump was president? a lot of these hispanic want the american dream, to own a home. are you able to put a downpayment, able to afford a mortgage with the interest rates so high and they say, no, we're having a big problem, the rents market is booming but the housing market is not. >> reporter: but as both candidates try to drum up enthusiasm in the tar heel state voters here say there's still a long road ahead. >> honestly, like i don't know

who to vote for because it's like no matter what side you go to there's something iffy about it. what do you think of biden and trump? you agree with your daughter, you think both candidates are too old, you want to see something new. >> exactly. yes. >> reporter: morgan radford, nbc news. scientists in california are trying to figure out why the state has so many sharks but so few shark attacks. one group of researchers is tackling that problem by running tests on the animal's hearing. anne thompson went out on the water to see and hear for herself. >> there it is. i see it. >> we're going to do the doesy doe. >> reporter: wow.

this was the rod that the acoustic tag and the shark bent the rod. they track where and when these powerful apex predators swim. technological advances adding to the lab's 60-year pursuit of knowledge. today's growing shark population is helped by three decades of conservation. >> when i was a grad student here in the '80s, hearing about sharks along the beaches was rare. now any day of the week, i can take someone out and show them a shark. >> reporter: we saw several. drones revealing juvenile great whites swim near people 97% of the time, off this beach with no attacks. >> we saw a shark here in the water, and i'm watching people, and nobody seems to be the least concerned that there are sharks 250 feet away from them. >> this is a great example of a community that has just come to adapt to the fact that there are white sharks off the beach every

day. >> reporter: tucked between santa barbara and l.a., it is billed as the safest beach in the world, free of rip tides, not sharks. >> most of the time we literally see sharks swim underneath people. they don't change their speed or change their direction. they just completely ignore them. >> because we're not their natural prey? >> absolutely. >> we're not food for them? >> exactly. if that were the case, southern california would be costco for white sharks. >> reporter: now the question is why. these juvenile great whites get used to human sounds and realize we are not a threat. sharks don't have ears like we do. instead of external, theirs are internal, designed to capture sound that travels faster underwater. >> i'm going to drop it about a meter off the boat. >> reporter: so master student whitney jones is giving the sharks a hearing test. do sharks hear differently than we do? >> they're more sensitive to lower frequencies like we are. it is more like they could feel versus hear the sound. >> reporter: jones reported

sounds of people paddling surf boards, kayaking and swimming. >> so i'm doing the swimming play back one more time. >> reporter: using an underwater speaker, she's playing the sounds at different levels and distances. a drone tracks the shark's reactions. >> we're thinking they're probably habituated to these sounds, so there probably won't be any responses. but if there are, i want to capture it with the drone. >> reporter: we all know that sharks can smell blood in the water, that's the old cliche. what do they hear? >> we still don't really know how far away they can detect those things. hopefully with these kinds of experiments, we can start to answer that. >> reporter: anne thompson, nbc news. >> fascinating, anne, thank you. coming up, the money talk that every par

in today's modern parenting, next month a lot of young people, millions of them heading off to college, many will have student loans, according to college board, by the time most students leave school they'll have an average of $29,100 in education debt. joining us now is sharyn epperson. we love having you. we're talking parenting around this, right, what does the

conversation parents should be having and when do they start having it about student loans. >> as soon as possible and definitely before starting to look at colleges, it's very important to have the conversation about what you as a parent can really afford to contribute to the college education and what the student is going to contribute as well, because they should be able to put in something as well and then understand if you do have to borrow money who's borrowing what and who's going to be responsible with paying it off. >> can parents be held responsible for the debt of their children? >> not for federal student loans, but if you co-sign a loan, you're responsible for that. it's important to understand what those obligations are that you have. >> college tuition, obviously going up every single year, i know, i'm paying it, is there any way to avoid taking out the student loans in first place, any advice? >> we're both in this situation, it's very important to appeal to

financial aid, every single year, apply for financial aid and appeal for more if you can. scholarship, grants and loans. the idea is to reduce the amount you'll have to borrow there and also looking at private scholarships that's a key thing to pay attention to, you want to make sure if your child can go to a community college for a less expensive amount of money do that for a couple of years and then transfer. dual enrollment that schools offer. and advanced placement, that can reduce the number of credits. >> students who already have debt, what are some ways to bring it down? >> you want, you know if you have a part-time job that money is going to go to the student loan debt. scholarships also very

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