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reading the memoirs . biographies. because they share so much of what a person has gone through , their life stories and i just love them. it's a great joy for me to have as my guest, reverend ivory. who has written her memoirs, sleep. pray. and heal. and it is a riveting story of her life . she is my guest and i am glad to have her. welcome, donna. >> good to be here. before we get into the book and the memoirs, tell us about your background and your experiences. >> i am from california, born and raised . active in the united methodist church . ended up going to seminary and becoming a pastor. marrying my

husband and having two little girls. just loving every single minute of life. and one day we went to a fancy meal at a restaurant in lake tahoe. and a 200 pound glass partition fell on my head in in that moment i sustain a disabling head and neck injury. i have not worked since. for 17 years are relied on a cane, opioids and wheelchair to get around. >> you have worked . >> i have written. it is taken the eight years to write this book and i do a little preaching. with some of the head injury stuff, you have to rest in order to let the brain come online, so to speak. i do

a little bit at a time and the spirit and spirituality has really helped me find my way . >> i read that and i have read the book twice . that is how riveting and compelling the story has been. i have been moved by it greatly. we will get further into it. but your father is a great preacher. your husband is a preacher. and has his doctorate on spirituality about howard thurman. >> he has a phd from san francisco, california institute of integral studies . >> i had him on some years ago . it is great to have you and he is in the audience and listening . and eager to hear what you have to say . even though i am sure he has read quite a bit of it. >> he has lived it and read it. and edited out a few things. >> i love the book and how you relate to your family and it. your mom and dad and your

sister and your daughters. it was an amazing story. >> thank you. >> we will hear more in the next few segments. tell us about this and why you chose those words to articulate your story . >> i will do that. >> please join us in our next segments with reverend donna fado ivery .

welcome back to 'mosaic'. if you are just joining us we are talking to reverend donna fado ivery and her memoirs that have just come out on , sleep, pray, heal. i am always interested in titles of books but only, not just the titles of the books but the chapters . tell us a little bit about how you came about with such an interesting title. >> after about 20 different ones, this is the one that really set right. it set right because , i have written it for the general audience, first. not necessarily for the church audience . i wanted a title that did not sound like church. there is one reason. another is that 'sleep, pray, heal' are the three components

that really come together where i found my path to wholeness and well-being, which is the subtitle of the book. a path to wholeness and well-being. after my head injury, i had difficulty speaking, thinking , seeing . i had double vision and my eyes would as we go across so i we get terrible stomachaches and dizziness , from the ways my eyes worked and would not focus my left side was week. i had difficulty walking. and had chronic pain. what my brain injury, rehab physician instructed me to do is for every hour up i want you to lie down in our. because the brain must rest to heal . if you overdo it you run the risk of evolving seizures and we don't want you to do that. i was

used to pushing it in order to get better. to work out and you do a little more and a little more. you go beyond. and i was an over achiever. push the envelope, push the envelope. all the sudden it was turned on his head and i said, go to bed. go to bed. >> you had a reputation of being a very good preacher. you had to change her whole approach. >> i have the reputation of being an excellent student and a great preacher. and i love being in charge. i worked hard. and i would read at least a book a week, just for sermon development. and all the sudden i cannot read a magazine article. because i cannot do it. i had to find a whole new paradigm for how to get through the day. and when

you cannot count on yourself for figuring things out, or you cannot count on your words to pray , or you really don't know what you just did, or the name of your nephew or how many cups of rice you put into the microwave, into the pot, in order to cook. two cups of rice with four cups of water. i could not count that because of my short-term memory. i cannot keep track . >> your chapters are captivating. you have three sections that stand out. tell us about that. >> my first section i call breaking open. that is the time of the accident when the glass fell, but it also broke me up and spiritually. because all the sudden when you cannot count on your words or knowing what to pray, i kind of fell back into the very beginning , the essence of the spirit you created me. and i call it the

brushes of the spirit. you can feel it , sometimes. kind of like a little wind, go this way. the second section is painting prayers. i could not speak my prayers are know my prayers . i found in all these down hours, what i was trying to work out , would sit with me and i would paint it . i painted my prayers. and what was phenomenal was what i was not expecting, the spirit would become batch the messages of spirit about healing would be inside of the paintings. like this one right here , i called and gifts. that is broken ostrich egg shells and it was the two-year anniversary of my head injury. and i was told by an attorney that for that two years is pretty much what you got is

permanent disabilities. >> the ostrich shells came from africa. >> just like all these broken abilities of mine and i put them on across, giving my brokenness to god. and in that painting , what the brushes of the spirit gave to me , i was feeling so discouraged with having not healed as i would hope. i thought if you have faith like a mustard seed, you can tell this to move. that was not happening with my brain injury. was my faith not good enough? and i wanted to return to normal and i thought that is what healing was. the painting of the cross and age cells, i saw a new person being born out of the broken shells . and in the gospels, healing is wholeness . i could be disabled and i can be whole, i can be disabled and healed. it is

like new life. crucifixion and resurrection together. >> that is why creating a new. >> that goes into creating a new which is the third section. breaking open, painting prayers and creating a new in the same brushes of the spirit i became into when with they were moving and instructing me toward my path to wholeness. when it was my own mind telling me something. they are very different. it was quite an education. >> it took seven or eight years. it took a lifetime . the way i read it. >> i have stories from my childhood and meeting my husband . the spirituality , the give-and-take with god , that is the essence of the book. >> i love some of the pictures you have a we will see them in the next segment. >> wonderful. >> i am glad you brought them. please join us. we have been with donna fado ivery and ron

swisher. we hope you join us for the next section of 'mosaic' .

in one of our last segments we talk about painting prayers that donna has done. i will ask mike, our cameraman to show some pictures she has painted. we will lift them up at this point. there is one. >> i call this painting, formed by tears. it's a self-portrait, painted it very quickly. and a hard spot i was in and it was my prayer about too much pain for too long. and what i discovered is that , i hated the painting. i

thought it was supposed to be counting my blessings and staying positive and that is the way to get through it. as i sat and watch this painting dry, i had to watch paid dry. that is the most boring thing you can do. we do minute. the brushes of the spirit showed me, the tears are beautiful. >> in your story i hear the psalmist . honest, authentic, angry at times . >> that is right. >> give god your tears and tears are holy waters at work and that is what the brushes of the spirit said. don't be ashamed of your tears . they are moving through you and it is a beautiful thing. it changed my impression of tears. no longer am i ashamed of tears. the brushes of the spirit , they move with honesty. just like worship and spirit and truth. the spirit is a partner to truth. in the ask, jesus says spirit is a

partner to truth. the path to wholeness is always grounded in truth . whatever you are experiencing. in the first year, i should be better, let me take my mind off of it and it will get better. that did not work for me. i had a long journey . and the only way to get fuel to move forward was to stay truth in spirit. >> love the brushes of the spirit. i may use it as a title and give you credit. >> all right. >> let's see another picture. yes. tell us about that. >> i call this, rocking lost . one of the effects of my head injury is that i could not rock my baby who was nine months old at the time of my injury. i went through a lot for a couple of years, being very angry that it was stolen from me. i had to quit nursing. could not rock a rocker. i would get sick riding in the car. anytime there is motion around me. i painted my

prayer of this old, rocking chair. as the chapter in the book called come rocking lost , about this painted prayer and what i discovered, i showed empty cradling arms and a mat out of the blake it sleepers that she wore a man grew out and war and grew out of an war. that is really where my heart was. i was morning the rocking lost. you know what, it was so amazing when finally in the moment i finished this painting , the grief and anger over having lost that time with my infant, it finally left. i had taken it to god and leave it there in prayer and it was always right back there . i was so angry. when i finished the painting and i could touch those blanket sleeper arms. i gave that grief a home to reside . and that is the

brushes of the spirit, showing me , how to walk forward , when you are sorrowful. >> how long did it take you to do the paintings? >> there are three years. these are the brain injury paintings. the initial ones . some of them took five minutes and some took three or four months. it depended on where i was at and how honest i was being . there a lot of paintings that are not there. the should paintings. you should be this way and you should do this. and i wanted bright stars and something beautiful. the creative spirit was not moving with that. a lot of paintings got off to the wayside because they were not telling the truth. and that is

where the spirit moves with truth. >> i had the privilege of hearing and seeing smokey robinson a few months ago and he took about five minutes to do one of his songs, cruising right . but it took them five years to do, my girl. which is one of the greats. >> like the one of me crying, is a five-minute painting. that was palette knife and two colors of paint . that was it. >> let's see another one. tell us about this one. >> i call this tbi portrait. from the outside i look fine. but from the inside looking out, it is like this painting appears . there are broken spaces where my brain is not connecting to one another and the way i did this painting, i threw a mirror on the floor to see what happens when glass falls. that was my prayer. what, lord, happened when that glass fell on me. i cut it pastel drawing of myself into

the same pieces as the broken glass. >> how long did that take? >> that was about four weeks. but that is also on the path of me being up two hours a day. i would do a little bit , lie down. do a little bit . back and forth. the sleeping, praying, and healing. that gentle title motion. >> let's see the last two pictures of the family before we go to the next segment. we will run out of time but i want to see the wedding picture. what year was that? >> 1986. that is hubert ivery. and we were married in fresno. starry died . >> your dad was there. >> we had so many ministers in the wedding. we have baptist, christian methodist, episcopal. everything possible.

that was a wonderful time. >> let's see the family. the two daughters. >> that is rocking lost with my youngest daughter and my oldest daughter and that is the first time i shared my painting publicly. >> how old are they now? >> 30 and 26. >> i remember when they were little girls. i am glad. >> we will have another segment and we will look forward to a poem and one more picture i think is important to see.

i am with reverend donna fado ivery. we talk about creating a new in the last segment of her book and i wanted her to read a poem that i think would be so important during this christmas season. which we look for the new, the christ child . and dancing with pain has been her story also. this poem expresses that. share that with us. >> this poem goes with the painting, dancing with pain that has me dancing with a body of broken mirrors. dancing with pain. i do not choose to have pain as my partner. following my every step . bending my body to its

intention, holding me always with cutting arms , tripping me up to fall fully into its blunt, harsh body. reflecting distorted and exaggerated aspects of me. i do not choose to have pain as my partner. for three years now i've grown into knowing this partner of mine called pain, i have caught on to an ebb of a stunning, suspicious secret about pains way. why the secret? perhaps the face of pain is so gruesome my fear skedaddle's over a cooperative of pain. pain followed rhythm. i step forward, pain steps back. for a moment, then luckily split, pain steps forward again. i overdue, too many steps at once. pain cuts in. i can do as long as i keep rhythm with pain. pain follows rhythm. with pain as my partner i can

dance, sachet, triple step, side back. moving rejoicing and feeling the exhilaration of sheer freedom as body blends with breathless desires . i can dance. it is a delicate dance i live with this nasty partner called pain but pain follows and knows rhythm. i will outwit out step and out and bent. i will keep up a joyous movement while keeping in rhythm with life music live become so advanced that i will take the lead. >> love it. >> we left of the website and how to get your books. and any book readings coming up. >> i have a website. adventures in healing.com. you can get there by donna fado ivery.com. i have a facebook

page. 'sleep, pray, heal' can be found at any bookstore anywhere. just asked for it . and i sell them on my website an amazon and browns a noble and everywhere. >> second question . when is the next book? >> the next book is in 2020. i call it sleep, pray, fly. it is working with a healer and working with the brushes of the spirit. and how i restored my ability to walk again. >> we can dance with pain and we can fly. >> that is right. >> thank you for being with us. i am sure the congregation and audience will be inspired and lifted. and feel resilient because of your example. >> and the resiliency of christmas. the manger and everything going on. but the star shone and jesus came.

>> thank you for joining us. i am ron swisher and i hope that you have been lifted by the story that is in this memoir that is so gripping, you will be deeply moved if you read, 'sleep, pray, heal' by reverend donna fado ivery . god bless you during the season. and may god always be with you. the brushes of the spirit, thank you for joining us. - [narrator] every day, our lives are filled with choices,

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