i'm margaret brennan in washington and this week on "face the nation" -- we'll take a closer look at the challenges facing the country, inflation, immigration at the border, foreign policy, and more. as washington prepares for the holidays, congress is at yet another impasse. president biden is stepping up his battle cry for. >> trump just talks the talk. we walk the walk.

>> but that walk is a tough call so far for the president. despite inflation being at its lowest level in two years, six out of ten americans say the economy is bad. democrats say biden is still better than the leading alternative. >> in the end, when people are -- they're mad at joe biden and they're going to be more mad at donald trump. even if they have to hold their nose, they're going to support joe biden. >> former resident trump is also making a pitch to the voters. >> i said i want to be a dictator for one day and you know why i wanted to be a dictator, because i want a wall, right, i want a wall, and i want to drill, drill, drill. >> republican voters like what trump says, but some aren't convinced he can win. >> trump's policies are good. i think with him, you know, he's so divisive as a leader.

>> the it's all just ahead on "cbs mornings." -- it's all just ahead on "face the nation." good morning. welcome to "face the nation." we'll get to what americans are focused on as we wind up 2023 in just a moment. but we want to go first to our charlie d'agata reporting from israel. >> reporter: the southern city of khan yunis in flames from a bombardment israel says is aimed at hunting down hamas leaders and with the u.s. alone in vetoing a u.n. security council

cease-fire proposal, anti-american sentiment is higher than ever. these weapons and rockets are made in america, says resident abu yousef. they support israel to kill the can youth, children and women. even as israel's military chief tells forces we need to press even harder,

s. >> next big question, who is governs the territory next? and the answer may lie here in the west bank. we're told postwar plans are drawn up with the west bank's palestinian authority. >> can i just confirm that you are in conversations with the united states about the future of gaza? >> yes. >> that concern. >> yes. there are discussions. they have idea. >> okay. >> we have idea. >> but those ideas may not be the same according to minister and social affairs ahmed delani. their plan would include an element of hamas as a junior partner despite benjamin netanyahu's insistence hamas must be must be destroyed.

>> we cannot destroy hamas as an organization. >> an organization accused of mass murder and still holding more than 130 hostages. and families are still no closer to knowing their fate as the season of hanukkah began. instead of joy, nightly vigils like this one in tel aviv. there's not much to celebrate until their loved ones come home. with our colleagues inside of gaza reporting heavy fighting overnight, the u.n. says it's impossible to get aid into southern gaza. an israeli official insisted there is a safe corridor leading from the rafah crossing to so-called safe zones but the u.n. isn't using it. >> charlie d'agata, thank you. we turn now to independent senator bernie sanders who joins us this morning from burrell

burlington, vermont. good morning to you senator. >> good morning. >> i think we have your audio now, sir. secretary of state antony blinken said that he sees a gap between israel's stated intent of limiting civilian casualties and the reality, and the secretary of defense says they could face a strategic defeat given civilian casualties. is this vocal enough criticism from the administration in your point of view? >> well, it's a start. i think lincoln and austin are right. what the president is trying to do is trying to make clear to netanyahu and his right wing extremist government, is yes, you can go to war against hamas, but you cannot go to war against the palestinian people and cause the horrific damage to human life that we are seeing right now. margaret, there have been 16,000

people killed so far, palestinians, two-thirds of whom are women and children. you're talking about 1.9 million people displaced, going around without any water, food, without any medical supplies. it is a humanitarian disaster and the united states has got to put all of the pressure that it can to tell netanyahu to stop this disastrous military approach. >> just to be clear, israel says it killed 7,000 militants. they haven't explained how many civilians they estimate they killed. the u.s. says they can't tally it. the number you cited there is from the gaza ministry of health. but the bottom line here is i know you have been very clear to your colleagues, the u.s. should not provide more aid to israel to the netanyahu government with no strings attached, you wrote, because it would make the u.s. complicit, you said, quote, in an all-out war against innocent men, women and children, who have nothing to do with hamas.

what do you believe the netanyahu government's intent is here? >> hard to say. it really is hard to say. it may be that they're responding in rage against the horrific and terrible hamas attacks that killed 1200 innocent israelis. maybe in some of the right wing extremist minds there is the goal to drive the palestinian people off of gaza completely. but they have now destroyed about half of the housing units in gaza so it's hard to predict. i think when general austin said you can win the battle, but lose the war, israel is losing the war in terms of how the world is looking at this situation. and i think that it would be irresponsible for the united states to give netanyahu another $10 billion to continue to wage this awful war.

>> so progressives like alexandria ocasio-cortez, rashida tlaib have been clear in calling for a cease-fire. you have taken flack because you have not. the united states government is posing a cease-fire as well. they're isolated at the u.n. on that point. why is it you oppose a cease-fire? >> well, first of all, i strongly support and wish and hope that the united states will support the united nations resolution that was vetoed, that we vetoed the other day. that was a humanitarian pause, a humanitarian cease-fire, that would call for the release of all of the hostages held by hamas and would have allowed the u.n. and other agencies to begin to supply the enormous amount of humanitarian aid to the palestinian people. in terms of a permanent cease-fire, i don't know how you can have a permanent cease-fire when hamas said before october

7th and after october 7th, they want to destroy israel, they want a permanent war. i don't know how you have a permanent cease-fire with an attitude like that. >> okay. so the war you're saying against hamas is justified in that way? >> i think israel has the right to defend itself. >> yes. >> and go after hamas, not the palestinian people. >> okay. would you vote against a version of the supplemental bill that president biden is asking congress for if it lacked the conditions on israel aid you're calling for? you know, there's other things that may be attached to like ukraine aid? >> i voted against the motion to proceed on that. i support strongly support aid to ukraine to stand up to putin's aggression, but i think what congress has got to do is make it clear to netanyahu that we're not going to simply give him a blank check to kill women

and children in palestine. >> okay. white house officials say privately they don't think that the blowback from this war will impact them negatively with democratic voters by the time we get to the presidential election. do you think they're miscalculating? >> i think this war has been -- i don't know the answer to that, but i think the war clearly has been very harmful, not just among progressives or democrats. the american people were outraged by the hamas attack against israel. rightfully so. what they are equally outraged now by what israel is doing, so you're seeing all over this country people say why are we giving money to an israeli government that is doing such awful things? will it hurt politically? it might. at the end of the day, i think, you know, biden is going to win this election but what's going on now is not helpful. >> i want to ask you about hate in this country and concerns

around it. as you know, strong concern about anti-semitism right now. congresswoman elise stefanik had a pointed question and answer with university presidents this week. one of those presidents has since resigned as a result of the fallout. i wonder your thoughts of how far free speech should be protected when it is calling for genocide? >> well, i agree. look, we believe strongly in free speech and academic where you will hear debate about issues that may make us uncomfortable, but at the end of the day, when somebody is saying they believe in genocide of the jewish people or racist attacks against black americans, et cetera, that is not acceptable. i think on a college campus where all of the students, black, jewish, whatever, islamic, have to feel cmfortable on campus. >> well, do you -- okay. senator, we're going to have to leave it there.

because we are running out of time. thank you. >> thank you very much. >> for weighing in today and dealing with us through those audio problems. we turn now to what americans are seeing as the biggest problems facing the country as we head into a consequential election year. our new cbs news poll says the most important challenge facing the country is inflation, with 7 in 10 americans disapproving of president biden's handling of it. next, immigration at the border and that issue is keeping a foreign aid package with badly needed support for crukraine an israel tied up in congress. the state of democracy is the third biggest problem in the eyes of americans and rounding out the top four, gun violence. another problem for which there seems to be little solution or political appetite for legislation that might help fix it. the executive director of our elections and surveys unit is

anthony salvanto. why is there a disconnect between data and perception? >> i think it starts with the larger sense of lost opportunity beyond the immediate where more people say that they feel worse off than their parents were at their age than better. that runs counter to what we typically think of as the american dream, right. it's especialy true for millennials, gen-xors, people in that range in the prime of their working and earning years. look, for context, this is new. this inflationary period is new for the bulk of them. you have to go back 40 years to find a period in u.s. where people face these kinds of inflationary pressures at this kind of a rate. we asked people, okay, put this in context. the u.s. has been through ups and downs before. what's been the most difficult? the most immediate is right now, is coming out of the pandemic and the economic impact of that

and then this post-pandemic inflationary period. yes, there's some recentlisy to that, but it underlines the point of how much people process the economy right now by comparing their lives pre and post-pandemic, and it's that framing that i think is essential to understanding how they process all of this. >> the white house would argue inflation is headed in the right direction. it is going lower. they look at that strong jobs number, just like we saw on friday. so what is it that people need to experience on a personal level? >> yeah. so i asked people directly, what do you take into account when you evaluate these things? the personal outweighs what we call the macro numbers, the large numbers. don't discount them, but it's personal experience, experience of the people you know and your friends, even the businesses around your local community. so that's number one. number two is, look, the rate is slowing, but prices are still high. so when you ask people,ket is s

they acknowledge that, but their income isn't keeping up with inflation and that's that immediate pocketbook impact you see such big numbers say that. >> because prices are still not back at those prepandemic levels? >> right. and when you look at what can be done from there, people say okay, well, number one, there's no appetite for more rate hikes. that's important. that's affecting a lot of especially a lot of young people as well. there's a large sense that they think the president can control inflation, and look, objectively, that may or may not be the case, but it kind of comes with the job, right. they're not certain, in fact many aren't sure, what exactly the white house has done about all of this, and so his handling of inflation in particular, remains low. >> the president has a lot of foreign policy, national security crises on his desk right now. the israel-hamas war is one of them.

what is perception of that? >> so his handling of the war is negative and it's gone a little lo lower, in part because people aren't sure that steps his administration is taking are bringing the war or helping bring the war to a peaceful resolution. number one. number two, we've talked a lot about some of the splits within his own party on this, which is always important for a president on foreign policy. there's an increasing number of democrats who now say they think the president is giving too much support to israel so that's important. having said all of that, his overall job approval is still both stable and hinges so muc more back to the top of this on the economy. >> anthony salvanto, good to have you here. >> thanks, margaret. >> "face the nation" will be back in one minute. stay with us. only $41 on dealdash. dealdash.com, online auctions since 2009. this playstation 5 sold for only 50 cents. this ipad pro sold for less than

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again nearing an all-time high. last week, customs and border protection reported nearly 19,000 apprehensions in its tucson sector alone, and that is where we find our adam yamaguchi. >> reporter: every day last week hundreds of migrants gathered to turn themselves over to border agents at the lukeville crossing in arizona near port of entry officially closed monday due to the massive number of arrivals. >> back in line. >> it's daybreak and so after a long, cold night of sleeping around camp fires, trying to sleep throughout camp fires, processing may begin momentarily. >> reporter: this mother of four tells us she's escaping the violence of mexican cartels. >> translator: i'm fighting as much as i can so my children can have something better. >> reporter: this is one of the border's most remote stretches, now one of the busiest.

in the last year there's been a 140% spike of migrant apprehensions in this area. our cameras captured the moments smugglers helped dozens of people cross illegally. >> and there the smugglers go. >> reporter: this is the breach in the wall that the smugglers have cut through and this is what the border patrol is up against. this is not an anomaly by any means. here's another rod that was just cut and repaired today. agents are really sort of playing a game of whack a mole. they see a breach, they respond to it, they try to seal it up, and then somewhere else, along the very long corridor of the wall, another breach occurs and this is all by design. the smugglers realize this particular area is vulnerable because there's so few resources and agents and they stand a much better chance of being able to funnel as many migrants as they can illegally into the u.s.

>> we're joined now by senator james lankford, the lead republican negotiator as the senate tries to come up with a deal to shore up the u.s. border. he joins us from oklahoma city. good morning to you, senator. >> good morning, margaret. this morning on another network chris murphy said it is tragic republicans are tying the border aid package to the issue of ukraine aid. he said, republican demands right now are unreasonable and must become reasonable in the next 24 to 48 hours. that doesn't sound like you're on the cusp of an agreement. >> so let me just try to make a couple things clear on this. this started with the biden administration saying that we need to do a national security package that has israel, ukraine, taiwan, and the border and they immediately came out and said we need more than funding. the word they used is funding percent border as a tourniquet, a change in policy. we've responded back to that and say we 100% agree on it and have

to have a change in policy on this. the push and pull is a political push and pull. if i talk to anyone in the country outside of washington, d.c., they would say the border is chaotic right now. we have the highest number of crossings of any september ever last september. the highest october ever. the highest november ever. we had the highest single day this last week. it is spiraling out of control. all we're trying to do is say what tools are needed to be able to get this back in control so we don't have the chaos on our southern border. >> well, the president is asking for that $14 billion as you said but they separate funding from policy changes. but the president did say he's -- he's willing to make significant compromises on policy to fix a broken immigration system. he's signaling flexibility. what is the problem? >> so the problem is, the administration is trying to be able to figure out how to be able to slow down a little bit of the flow. we had 12,000 people, for instance, on tuesday of this

last week that crossed the border illegally. they're trying to figure out some way to say we'll do a few thousand thousand less but not stop the flow. >> what would stop the flow? >> i would tell you a lot would. a context piece on this, though, during -- you take any year during the obama administration we've had more people cross illegally october, november, december this year than in any year in the obama administration. so this is not a matter of let's turn it down a little bit. we have to figure out how to manage this. asylum. right now, people come in and say i want to request asylum. there's so many people and the cartels know it and the smugglers know it they can throw thousands a day, there's no way to process that, and it's years before they're processed and released in the country. >> i thought the white house was winning on asylum to tighten those regulations? >> we're screening about 500 people a day for asylum. a typical day in the last week was 10,000 people a day. even if you double or triple, as the administration would say

let's just double the number of screenings we're doing, now we're screening 1,000 a day and releasing 9,000 into the country. that doesn't manage the issue. we have to figure out how to manage capacity and what does it look like? as long as we're saying we'll screen 1,000 and then release everyone else into the country, the cartels know that and everyone coming will just pay the cartels and know they will be released. >> i know you don't want to negotiate in public, but i want to talk about what you are proposing to fix the problem you're describing. let's take a break and we'll come back and continue that conversation. stay with us.

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welcome back to "face the nation." we want to pick up where we left off with oklahoma republican james lankford. senator, i know the majority leader in the senate has said that the speaker of the house, mike johnson, will not pass a supplemental package without this bill h.r. 2 that passed the house with no democratic votes. you've said that's not realistic. but has the speaker been clear to you what his red lines are?

can you get house republicans to approve something if you can get democrats to agree to it? >> yeah. we're going to find out on that. speaker johnson is not giving me the red line. it has to be able to pass the senate. the house republicans laid out a good proposal, thorough, covered a lot of issues, had no democrats, obviously, we're not going to get 2030 democrats in the senate or a democrat white house to sign it. it doesn't mean we sit and do nothing. we have to solve the crisis with tens of thousands plus this last week crossing every day half a million in the last two months, we can't say we're going to do nothing. >> politico has reported you are proposing a new expulsion authority similar to title 42 that would also automate a border shutdown. the number of migrants hits a certain level. you would mandate electronic monitoring for everyone including children and restrict the administration's parole authority to release migrants from detention. is that accurate? >> no.

it's actually not accurate. there are several things i have proposed on that, some things i haven't, as you mentioned. we're not going to have the opportunity to negotiate this out. i would say we have to deal with the capacity issues. just like you need restaurant or a theater, they have a capacity issue, so do we on a day to day. we have thousands of agents pulled in and right now there's been no consideration of the white house of how do we manage the capacity issues that are there. they seem to be focussed on how many can we release into the country and tell them we'll do a hearing some time later when we don't know these people. literally thousands of people have crossed the border in the past few months that this administration identified as what they call special interest aliens, specifically saying they're a national security risk, but they were released into the country on their own recognizance. we have to stop that. >> you have to negotiate changes to the law and we are running out of time in 2023. also attach this the house has argued the border bill would need to be attached to ukraine funding to pass.

president biden says that you, sir r giving vladimir putin a christmas present because this doesn't look like it's going to pass in 2023 and it's unclear when it could? >> yeah. i'm by far no fan of vladimir putin and the president knows that full well. this is not a christmas present to him. the president said if we deal with national security we have to deal with ukraine and the border. we've responded that's correct. i don't meet very many americans who think what's happening at the border is going well and the president's team actually said if you handed them more money it doesn't solve the problem. it facilitates more people coming into the country. we have drugs coming into te country, national security risks and they've shut down legal migration the san ya sid dro port, the busiest in america, was shut down as they moved the staff off legal migration to facilitate illegal migration. >> we're seeing in our polling this is a top issue for americans. the president would be incentivized here. what you're talking about is

policy changes and the linkage to ukraine the president says if they don't get the funding now it will kneecap ukraine on the battlefield. can you get ukraine aid passed separate from this? >> no. no. the focus is -- we hear from so many why would we deal with other people's national security and ignore american national security. why would we allow people to cross our southern border. this administration labels national security risks by the thousands coming into the cuntry, separate from just the migrants, that are coming for employment. we have individuals they've labeled national security risks, coming into the country. why would we not work to stop that? we can do two things at once. we're the united states of america. these negotiations have been going on months. we've come a long ways and time to make a decision and do what we can to help the nation. we can't do everything on the border, but we can do the things to actualy begin to control the border so that the united states is in control of our boundaries, not the cartels.

>> well we will watch and see what you're able to get done in the coming days. thank you for your time. and now for the administration's position on that national security funding package, we turn to the head of the office of management and budget, shalanda young. good morning to you. >> hi. >> good to have you here in person. >> thanks for having me here. >> is the president going to get more directly involved this week? we know his chief of staff has been involved in these border talks. if this is an emergency, does he need to be more hands on? >> look, congress is having conversations. you heard senator lankford's purview. conversations are happening that need to happen. the one thing i agree with that senator said is it's time. i sent a letter to congress outlining the stakes if ukraine aid is cut off, what that means. the one thing i do take issue with is, americans want their national security taken care of. we agree with that. what happens if putin marches through ukraine? what's next? nato countries.

our sons and daughters are at risk of being a part of a larger conflict and it's not just putin, other dictators watching what congress is doing. >> right. >> what signal does that send? our national security is also influenced with not providing ukraine. >> you're talking past each other. senator lankford agrees aid for ukraine needs to pass. it's the method of being able to get it through congress that seems to be the problem right now. can there be a deal on the border do you think, that would unlock the ukraine aid? >> i've done a lot of funding negotiations over my career in this town. negotiations that fail, is when one side can't take yes for an answer. they push for too much. they push for an h.r. 2 which, as the senator pointed out, all democrats voted against. the white house had a veto threat. you can't have everything your way in a negotiation. democrats and republicans have to vote for this bill. so i agree, it's time to cut a

deal that both side cans agree to. >> so let's talk about ukraine specifically. you warned in october and back in september, that funding was running low. you sent a letter monday to the speaker saying we are out of money to support ukraine in this fight. this isn't a next year problem. when precisely will u.s. funding be exhausted? >> we have budgetary standpoint about $1 billion left to replenish our own stockpile, so this comes down to a policy decision. do we risk our own u.s. readiness as the world is more complex, we've seen it, or, does congress ensure that we can protect our own national security while also being there for our allies like ukraine? it shouldn't be an either or. congress should do what it's done several other times in a bipartisan manner, fund our own national security, and make sure we are there for our allies. i think it's important to know

the majority of money that we talk about for ukraine stays at home. our defense industrial base gets the majority of this funding to build more equipment, weapons, ammunition. that means american jobs. good paying american jobs. >> right. >> so a deal, you're not completely ruling out here. but i want to ask you to weigh in on some of the polling that we shared with our viewers. te top two issues for american voters are inflation and the border. and the president gets large disapproval rates for handling inflation and americans think his administration's actions led to it growing as you can see there, not slowing. why don't you think the president's policies are resonating more? >> look, the president gets it, i get it. i have a 95-year-old grandmother in clinton, louisiana, i get first hand feedback on what people are feeling at the ground in these small little towns like i'm from.

i get it. the macro numbers are going as well as anybody could have predicted. inflation coming down. job numbers remaining strong. but people have got to feel it, and it's going to take time. when the macro economy, we see good numbers, that often takes time to trickle through, but we can't give up. i'm on his economics team and the thing we focus on the most is how do we bring down costs. that's why you hear us talk about junk fees. what is that? that savings people money when we go after banks and hotels who charge you 20 or 50 -- >> supermarket prices up 2% versus last year. >> we cannot leave any stone unturned to make sure people are paying less for these. prescription drugs. a reason the president asked and fought for congress to cap insulin at $35 a month. >> we're not seeing the awareness. we saw that in our polling. the linkage between what you're saying the president's doing and

the public perception of it. is that messaging or these programs are slow in rolling out so people aren't feeling the impact? >> i think it is -- i just said, you know, as inflation comes down, it does take time for that macro effects to be felt on the ground. i believe as we continue to see that progress on inflation, people will feel it in their pocketbooks as they go to the grocery store, that is going to come home and we just have to continue to make progress on a macro level and we are. >> thank you for coming. >> thank you so much. >> we have to leave it there and we'll be right back.

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slim margin even skinnier. i want to play a portion of your interview here. >> speaker johnson, so far is he a deer in the headlights or doing a decent job? >> this is a very hard job. you know, if i was the best to give advice i would still be in it. and to be fair to speaker johnson, he didn't have the years before to plan. he wasn't the majority leader. he wasn't the minority leader. he's doing fine. it's like anything else, 10,000 hours, you improve at your job. i think the best advice i could give to him, speaker of the house, do not -- do not govern in the idea you're afraid somebody is going to make a motion to vacate. when i made the decision to pay our troops, and not shut down, i knew they were going to make a motion to vacate on me. i didn't even know the democrats would go along with it. what i did know, i had been in that room before, i had watched

what had failed, and i knew at that moment that when i thought before i ran for office you would always tell yourself would you do what you think was right? would you risk your job and do it? you say you would, but when you came to that moment, i hope history writes, that i actually did what i said i would do before i ever got elected when that moment came. i would do it all again. because i hope others would look at that and dot exact same thing. it was right >> he's passionate there. but what he's putting his finger on is the question of, can mike johnson govern and, by the way, work with democrats? >> former speaker mccarthy's comment there is so revealing. publicly he's saying he believes the new speaker, mike johnson, is doing just fine. but based on my reporting, my conversations with other house

republicans, key insiders in washington, they say speaker johnson has political capital with house republicans. he's popular with conservatives in the house. he doesn't have political capital in washington. just as he needs to probably cut a deal with president biden, as you've been discussing with your guests on ukraine, on israel, he's moving forward with an impeachment process inside of a house oftives. of course testing his relationship with the president at this crucial time. he doesn't have much of a relationship with leader mcconnell, the minority leader in the u.s. senate. senate republicans keeping the house out of those discussions over immigration with senator lankford and others. the question looming over the new speaker is how is he going to address israel, ukraine, government funding early next year, and he doesn't have answers at this point because he's still settling into the job. >> he has a january 19th shutdown deadline hanging over his head. i mean, ed, we've been talking about this throughout the program. does the white house need to step in here and close a deal on

the border? do he they want to? >> they would like to. the president would like to come up with something. there will be pain to pay with certain elements of the democratic party. deal making is his thing, especially if it's a bipartisan deal, even if it could be ugly. they have to try to get something done on this, if only to sort of go into an election saying i'm addressing the second most important or urgent issue to voters and demonstrate whether you can do something. whether he picks up the phone and getting into the details remains to be seen. if we see more engagement from the chief of staff and others doing this that's a sign they are getting closer. he got burned a lot spending too much time on legislative details in the beginning, so he's backing off leaving it to congress. we'll see in the coming days if he jumps in. >> another thing we saw in our polling that anthony shared was that americans are disapproving of the president's handling of

this crisis in israel. i know you went out to that key state of michigan to report on what voters there are thinking. >> yeah. >> what did you learn on the ground? >> important as anthony pointed out earlier, the war is not necessarily the biggest issue of concern. but it is in parts of michigan. deerborn, especially. largest concentration of arab american voters in that critical swing state who look at what's happened over the last 06 days and say i can't vote for him. he's allowed my relatives, friends' relatives to get killed, how can we support somebody who has allowed so much civilian death? these are people who campaigned against donald trump in 2016 and in 2020. voted for biden in 2020 because they knew he was a better option. they look at the two of them now f that is your option next november and say skip that. why that matters, small but influential group of voters inside a big county inside a big

swing state, that joe biden needs to win, donald trump wants to win back. if you start losing the small groups when these elections are being won on the margins you're in trouble. >> we're going to continue to watch that. you are, ed. robert costa before i let you go, the former president is walking into a courtroom tomorrow with this new yok civil fraud case. how much are these legal complications impacting his thinking? >> i'll be there in new york sitting behind him. i've sat behind him in court in the civil fraud trial. >> what's that like? >> it's revealing. you're seeing his silhouette in front of you kind of bobbing and weaving in frustration because he can't stand this judge in the civil fraud case. what an american scene to see a former president sitting in the courtroom while also the republican frontrunner. this trial, more than anything, i'm told by his allies, frustrates him. he talks more in private, i'm told, about the civil fraud trial, than his own republican rivals who had a debate a few days ago many republicans seem to shrug off.

looks like as mccarthy told me trump is going to be the nominee lls former ambassador haley or gor desantis or chris christie pick up momentum. party leaders are starting to come around to the fact even though trump might wrap up the nomination just as he begins a federal trial over january 6th. >> we're going to to leave it there but we have more to talk to you about and we will in the weeks and months ahead. we'll be back in a moment. alk tn the weeks and months ahead. we'll be back in a moment. here to you about and we will in the weeks and months ahead. we'll be back in a moment.

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we want to return to the gaza humanitarian crisis and the devastating impact on its residents, particularly children. joining us is the president and ceo of save the children usa, janti soeripto. good to have you here. >> thank you for having me, margaret. >> we knew half of the residents of gaza before the war were children. for those who have survived the war to date, what is life like for them? >> it's an unbelievable humanitarian catastrophe, margaret. we have no access to basic services. there is an absence of clean water. you saw children drinking dirty water from a pipe on the ground. the rainy season has started.

there's sewage in the streets. no food, no electric. most of the hospitals are not functioning anymore. there is no electricity. it is unspeakable essentially what's unfolding before our eye, and the humanitarian agencies cannot help the population of gaza and those children in the current situation. >> cannot help them. why? is that because there is only this one open gate at present to allow aid in and israel is screening it all? >> that is one of the issues as well, but in the current -- i mean, when the humanitarian pause happened the seven days were not enough, you cannot rebuild a warehouse in seven days, and there was aid coming in, we could even deliver some of those supplies, even without fuel, the necessary fuel to get stuff all the way up to the north, but currently with all this violence, the attacks, the shelling, we cannot go out and deliver safely. we cannot -- we also cannot ask

families and children to come out and receive those deliveries because that is not safe either. people are putting up tents in the middle of the road because that's the only way to get shelter currently. >> you know, i think any parent seeing images of a child in pain or suffering, it is just so hard to stomach, but the other statistic i saw from the u.n. was that 180 women give birth each day in gaza and unicef said 105,000 breastfeeding mothers are struggling to even feed themselves. if you aren't getting a newborn baby food in the first six months you are setting them up for a horrible life. so what is happening to that next generation? >> well, exactly right. we see, you know, mothers can't feed their children. mothers are giving birth in overcrowded shelters. they're having c-sections without anesthesia. we have premature babies in incubators that cannot run because there's no electricity. it is horrific what has happened

to this generation of children. and we know that if they don't get the food and necessary supplies that they need, certainly those first, you know, months of life, that is already setting them behind. >> the u.s. vetoed that cease-fire call at the united nations. and afterwards your organization released a statement that said israel is forcing civilians into so-called safe zones that can't accommodate them and, quote, deliberately depriving the civilian population of food, water, fuel, willfully impeding supplies and using starvation as a method of warfare. that is a strong allegation in that press release yesterday. why do you say this is deliberate? >> there is -- i mean, look, humanitarian organizations like ours, we are really running out of words to describe how bad it is. we work in crisis all over the world from afghanistan to sudan, ehiopia, to the democratic republic of congo.

we are no strangers to war and conflict. what is happening here is that there is -- there's 2 million people, million children n a very, very small space, there is no way to get out, nobody can flee, which is not the case in most of these other crises, and there is nothing coming in, and there's an absence of basic necessity. the siege that's put upon the people of gaza is not, a, we cannot do it, there is no market of sorts to allow people to get access to food and water and everything they need, so we think that is a willful, you know -- >> it's a choice. >> it's a choice. it's a choice and it's withholding aid from the population. >> the united states, the president, has been on the phone pressing for aid to flow in more. there are other ways to get into gaza. israel controls those gates. >> yep. >> have they opened yet? the white house said they were about to. >> we haven't heard anything to

that effect. raft fa crossing is open. it was never set up to allow for that capacity of aid that is required. also we haven't seen even those 100, 150 trucks, 200 trucks come across the rafah crossing after the ending of the pause, so we are calling for karem shall home to allow more to come in if the fighting stops. >> will you stay working in gaza? can you? >> we will. we have been there since 1953. we are not leaving now. we have 25 staff there. we won't leave. but at the moment, working for us in a safe and quality way is impossible. >> all right. thank you for sharing that story of what's happening inside. we'll be right back.

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