i'm mo rocca. please join jane pauley when our trumpet sounds again next "sunday morning." ♪ . i'm margaret brennan in washington. and this week on "face the nation" -- donald trump trounces nikki haley in south carolina and an interview with israeli prime minister benjamin ne the former president played for the cameras and the conservatives at a washington gathering before polls closed yesterday. sharpening his latest campaign

line in which he likened himself to the late alexei navalny. >> i stand before you today not only as your past and hopefully future president, but as a proud political dissident. i'm a dissident. >> farfetched as that comparison may be, consider this, his attempt to say that black voters were blocking to him because they related to the criminal charges against him. >> the mug shot, we've all seen the mug shot. and you know who embraced it more than anybody else? the black population. >> the biden abiden campaign ca insulting and racist. nikki haley cited the comments as another reason why she is staying in the race. >> i don't believe donald trump can beat joe biden. nearly every day trump drives people away. >> robert costa will be here with political analysis and news

about nikki haley's next steps. and then on to the international challenges sparking political turmoil here at home. will backlash over president biden's support of israel's war this gaza hurt him in tuesday's michigan primary? we'll talk to a key democrat, congresswoman debbie dinkg-k dingle. and new push for a vote on critical foreign aid to arm the ukrainians. and new push for critical foreign aid to arm the ukrainians. that is all just ahead on "face the nation". good morning and welcome to "face the nation." yesterday south carolina republican primary turned out as expected, with a big win for donald trump. last night in charleston, former governor and u.n. ambassador nikki haley put her best spin on

the result. >> i'm going to count it. i know 40% is not 50%. but i also know that 40% is not some tiny group. >> as for the former president, his friday night remarks at the black conservative federation gala in columbia, south carolina continued to overshaed dough his victory. >> black conservatives understand most that some of the greatest evils in our nation's history have come from corrupt systems that try to target and deny them their freedom and their rights. you understand that. i think that that is why the black people are so much on my side now because they see what is happening to me happens to them. these lights are so bright in my eyes that i can't see too many people out there. but i can only tee thsee the bl ones, i can't see any white ones. that is how far i've come.

>> we begin with robert costa who is joining us from charleston. >> this was an open primary in south carolina, but just 3% of voters were block. do donald trump's comments give the party any pause? >> it is giving nikki haley a road ahead at this point. she and her campaign believe there are many traditional complains across the country who are he had if up not only with former president trump's legal problems but his in-sidcendiary comments on race. so that is why she's staying in, going to mitch thchigan this we through super tuesday. but there is real worry that as trump takes over the party and the republican national committee, there is no reckoning about how he is handling issues like race and immigration. >> how long can nikki haley stay in the race? >> as long as there is money. i've been talking to donors the

past 12 hours and they say that they will keep pouring money no to her campaign. but she know super tuesday come early march, that will be a real cross roads for her. going past super tuesday will be very difficult in terms of organization and fundraising. and she has told reporters in recent days that she's not thinking beyond that at this point. >> all right. robert costa, thank you. we turn to the crisis in the middle east and the war between israel and hamas. joining us is benjamin netanyahu. welcome back to "face the nation," sir. >> thank you. good to be with you. >> from prime minister, the u.s. is working on a hostage deal that president biden has said would bring with it at least six weeks of calm. the intelligence chiefs met on friday, are we close to a deal? >> i'm not sure the exact duration, but i can tell that you we're all working on it. we want it. i want it. because we want to liberate the

remaining hostages. we've already brought half of them back. and i appreciate the effort. combined effort of israel and the united states to bring back the remaining hostages. i can't tell you if we'll have it, but if hamas goes down from its delusional claims and brings them down to earth, then we'll have the progress that we all want. >> what specifically is holding up the deal at this point? reportedly this would have 30 to 40 hostages, women, elderly, wounded, released in exchange for a few hundred palestinian prisoners being released. >> hamas started out with just crazy demands. and it is too soon to say if they have abandoned them, but if they do be a ban done them and get into what you call the ballpark, they are not even in the city.done them and get into what you call the ballpark, they are not even in the city. but if they come down to a reason able situation, yesterday, we'll have the

hostages. >> at least six u.s. citizens among those being held. is the return of living hostages necessary and essential for you to declare victory in this war? >> i've set three war goals. the first is to release the hostages. second is to destroy hamas. and the third is to ensure that gaza does not pose a threat to israel in the future. and obviously the three are inte intertwined. achieved basically by very effective and often heroic military operation and also by tough negotiations. we're combining the two and i hope that it yields the result. but understand that unless we have total victory, we can't have peace. we can't leave hamas in place, we can't leave a quarter of hamas battalions in rafah and say that that is fine. >> on the issue of the hostages, as you know time is of the essence. so if the deal happens and there are six weeks of calm that go with it, does that provide an

opening to end this war or will you still go into southern gaza and rafah regardless? >> victory is within reach and you can't have victory until you eliminate hamas. >> how within reach? >> once we begin the rafah operation, the intense phase of the fighting is weeks away from completion. not months, weeks away from completion. and that is -- we've already destroyed 18 of the 24 hamas terrorist battalions. so we have -- and four are concentrated in raf if a i go on. we can't leave the last hamas stronghold without taking care of it. obviously very with to do it. but understand too that i've asked the army to submit to me a double plan. first to evacuate to enable evacuation of the palestinian siflt civilians in gaza and second to destroy the remaining

battalions. that gets us a real distance toward completion of victory. we don't give it up. if we have a deal, it will be delayed somewhat, but it will happen. if we don't have a deal, we'll do it anyway. it has to be done because total victory is our goal and it is within reach. not months away, weeks away once we begin the operation. >> the white house says they need to see a credible and executable land to protect civilians and the 1.4 million people who are sheltering in southern gaza. this morning the white house says they still have not seen such a plan and no major military operation should proceed without it. have you approved the plans that you said you've asked for? >> actually, far gmargaret, i'mg from here to a meeting where they show me the plan to dismantle the remaining battalions. we don't have to be producded.

we're on the same page with the u.s. the reason that you have that population in rafah is because we actually cleared them away from the other places, combat zones that we had. that is why they are there. so that is why there is room for them to go where we've already finished in. >> so to move 1.4 million people into northern gaza? can you guarantee that the idf -- >> i say northern gaza. i said north of rafah. north of rafah. and northern part of the gaza strip, we still have fighting going on, but we are -- that is important. it is important to understand, moving civilians out of an area that is going to be a combat zone is not a good thing, it is a good gthing and that is what israel will do. >> can you guarantee idf won't push palestinians out of gaza and into egypt?

officials have said if you do that, you are putting at risk 46 years of peace. >> look, i think that the egyptians know very well that that is not our purpose and that wouldn't be the result and we're coordinating -- we're talking to the egyptians all the time. so i don't think that that is an issue. the peace between israel and egypt to serve the interests of both countries and will continue to serve the interests of both countries, i don't think that it is in any danger. >> you said that victory is within reach. but u.s. intel says the idf has only destroyed 30% of hamas leadership and the amount of tunnels hamas uses have really only been tiny in terms of what has been destroyed by the idf. there is growing distrust of you personally, sir, you know this, in the u.s. congress and within the biden white house. when your closest ally is telling you things like this and telling you that you need to reconsider a strategy, isn't it

worth considering? >> i think that the u.s. agrees with us on the goal of destroying hamas and the goal of releasing the hostages. the decisions of how to do that are left with us. and with me and the elected cabinet of israel. a lot of things that we were told by best of friends in additionally turned out not to be true. they said that you can't enter the ground war without having enormous complications. they said that you can't fight -- you can't enter gaza city. you can't go into the tunnels. it will be a terrible blood bath. all turned out to be not true. our soldiers are in the tunnel network. we don't have to take apart hundreds of kilometers. we have taking apart the missile production factories, command and roll headquarters, computers and money and weapons there and ammo that is there. and so we're doing the war -- you can't substitute for israeli

military command and we're cdoig it very responsibly. john spencer at west point says no other arm has gone through the lens that israel army has gone to, to clear silicon valleyians ocivilians out of harm's way. >> but former central command said you don't have any specific end game here. >> hold on. you lob these grenades at me and you keep on moving. first of all, you say there is no confidence. well, israeli public has confidence in me. last week there were -- >> there were massive protests throughout israel yesterday. >> of course we have protests. we have protests. israel is a democracy. we've had protests for 30 years. but the israeli people are united as never before. last week they voted 99-9 in the

knesset to not have an international dictate shoved down our throats that would endanger israel. people are united on this. so the people are united and policy is right, people support it. and i intend to take it to completion because that is what we have. we can't compromise with total victory because i'll tell you, we can't win the peace if we don't win the war. and we will win this war. >> and one of the member frof t knesset said he asked the americans about what you just said about a unilateral declaration of recognition palestinian state and he said you invented a threat that doesn't exist, not one official that suggested universal recognition of the palestinians. so putting that aside -- >> actually foreign secretary of britain just spoke about it.

there have been many -- >> this is the u.s. >> i hope that is true. we've heard a lot of briefings coming from the u.s. to that effect. and so i hope it is true and if it is true, then that will reinforce the decision made by the government -- by the people of israel through their elected representative. and by the way, if people try to foist that on us, it would be a terrible mistake because it would be seen as a reward for terror after the most atrocious attack committed against you ush people since the holocaust. so people of israel won't buy it and if you want peace, you shouldn't go that route.since t. so people of israel won't buy it and if you want peace, you shouldn't go that route. i don't think palestinians are ready for it, but when they are, that is the way it will be achieved, not by international fear. >> i want to come back where you said that you were raising questions about u.s. intelligence and advice to you from the biden administration where you said that it was wrong. you also said that there was no blood bath. >> i didn't say it was wrong, i said some good friends gave us

advice that turned out to be -- that we performed a lot better than they anticipated. and by the way, we performed a lot better than we anticipated. >> so the no blood bath, doctors without borders went to the u.n. this week and said the civilian toll in gaza is so high they came up with a new term, wounded child no surviving family. save the children says there are over 1,000 children who have lost a limb over these past days since the beginning of the october 7 war. what hamas has done is horrific. but president biden has said your actions are over the top. aren't you concerned that israel is creating more terrorists than it is killing? >> i think any civilian casualty is a tragedy and i don't say that happe halfheartedly. i lost a brother in the war, i myself was wounded while

releasing hostages from a hide jacked plane. i've lost friends in battle. i know what it means to lose friends and family members. but this war is forced upon us. our civilians raped, beheaded, burnt babies alive, children killed in front of their parents and parents in front of their children. this enemy not only targets civilians but hides behind palestinian civilians. so a double war crime. i have to come back and say in terms of the way this battle is fought, there is no parallel to the difficulty that we face. and john spencer at west point says no other army has faced such a task. he gives ocomparison -- >> that is not the question i asked. >> but that is the answer. you can't say, oh, you give immunity to the terrorists

because they are hiding amongst civilians, so what do you do you can say okay, we'll give you immunity. hamas survives. and we'll live to fight another, commit another massacre and another massacre? what would america do? what would america come, margaret, if you face the equivalent of 20 fi9/11s, would you not be doing what israel is doing?if you face the equivalen 20 9/11s, would you not be doing what israel is doing? you'd be doing a hell of a lot more. so israel is calling up people, civilians, palestinians, telling them leave your home, sending pam prp pamphlets, we have done that and we'll clear them out of harm's way and complete the job and achieve total victory which is necessary to give secure future for israel, a better future for gaza, better future for the middle east and setback for the iran terror axis. that is in our interests and

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when you feel the signs, it's time to try align. president biden's refusal to call for a ceasefire in gaza has been a source of considerable controversy in michigan which holds its primary on tuesday. the state has a significant arab and muslim population, a good number are democrats. democratic congresswoman debbie dingell is joining us from southfield, michigan. welcome back. >> good morning, good to be with you. >> congresswoman, i know there is this protest effort under way to vote uncommitted among some democrats to voice upset with the president. will this damage him in a significant way? >> i want to say to you -- i've

known many of this community, i've lived in dear born with my husband. there are two campaigns. one is abandon biden, and the other that has made over 100,000 calls, we'll see how many people who vote tuesday are trying to make sure the president hears them. they have so many family in gaza. i cannot tell you how many people i know who have lost grandparents, some parents, aunts, uncles, cousins, families who have lost 20 or 40 members. the casework that i'm doing, i don't sleep at night. you talk to them about how they don't have food, how they don't have any access to health care, they are drinking saltwater and almost out of saltwater which is not healthy. the sanitary conditions on the ground. i mean, would be woman, aunt of somebody goes to the bathroom once a day.

one shower for every 15,000 people. it is a nightmare and they are scared and weorried. but when we get a ceasefire, they need the ceasefire, then we sit down and talk. and there are a lot of things that donald trump has done which are pretty horrific. when you review them, we'll have to remind people of what he said. >> i understand and the nuance of what you were saying there, that there this is not political, it is personal for a lot of people. on that note, we just heard from the israeli prime minister that he is going into southern gaza whether president biden likes it or not. you said that you are working to help some of your constituents. do you think the united states is doing enough to get americans or families of americans out of harm's way?

>> we know members of national security paris have been to paris and i know that the president has directly told the prime minister that he needs to be careful. people need to understand the population of gaza is approximately 2.2 million people. 1.5 million have been forced in to rafah. we can argue about the numbers. nobody denies that 12,000 children are slrd died. you heard doctors without borders have talked about 1,000 children who have lost limbs.di. you heard doctors without borders have talked about 1,000 children who have lost limbs.ha. you heard doctors without borders have talked about 1,000 children who have lost limbs.ve. you heard doctors without borders have talked about 1,000 children who have lost limbs.re. you heard doctors without borders have talked about 1,000 children who have lost limbs. d. you heard doctors without borders have talked about 1,000 children who have lost limbs. it is outrageous for further in a sense civilians to be killed. i know that the white house is working very closely with a number of other countries to make it clear that we cannot

continue this loss of life. and -- >> do you talk to the white house every day, tell them how important it is and they assure me that the president is very engaged in delivering very direct messages. >> but he has not rhetorically called for a ceasefire. >> he has in private conversation saying he is working toward a temporary cease fire. i know we need a ceasefire. if you get the six week ceasefire, that hopefully leads to -- we also need hostages returned. people are hurting on both sides. >> i want to talk to you morks y more, but i have to take a commercial break. we'll be back with more. more. e but i have to take a commercial break. we'll be back with more.

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