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good morning. i'm jane pauley and this is "sunday morning." memorial day weekend 2024. for many of us, it means cookouts, holiday get aways and the unofficial start of summer. but, of course, at its core this weekend is about remembering our military fallen. we have a report this morning from david martin about bringing their stories from the past compellingly into the present, and even the future. >> 12,000 americans in that town fi -- >> reporter: vincent speranza died last year, but with artificial intelligence -- did you have any close calls? >> i was trying to take a drink from my canteen. >> reporter: he and other world war ii veterans can answer your

questions. >> i thought that my great-grandchildren could ask me anything that came to their minds. >> reporter: talking to the past, coming up on "sunday morning." 100 years ago the nation was shaken by news of a brutal and baffling murder. a crime so violent and senseless the names of its perpetrators live on infamy. we asked our erin moriarty for a look back. >> reporter: orenthal james simpson, not guilty of the crime of murder. before the o.j. simpson trial, before the son of sam, there was leopold and loeb. >> this is the original ransom letter that know wrote prior to abducting bobby franks. >> reporter: 100 years after the first so-called crime of the century. >> leopold and loeb were criminal geniuses in their own minds. >> reporter: the case that haunts so many people to this day, later on "sunday morning."

she's being called the bravest player in tennis. with vladimir putin's war in ukraine kwl into its second year, jon wertheim introduces us to one of the sport's most compelling and courageous contenders. >> reporter: daria kasatkina is one of the world's top tennis players. but it's the russian's actions and words off the court that are echoing around the globe, including inside her own country. the number one russian tennis player in the world, someone from the sports ministry wants to call you a foreign agent? >> yeah, that was weird. he didn't succeed. >> reporter: ahead on "sunday morning," the bravest player in tennis and why she can't go home. as we mentioned, it's a weekend for cookouts coast to coast. a good time for lee cowan to sample some smokin' hot barbecue that's the talk of texas. mo rocca catches up with

kyra sedgwick, who is has just opened in a new off broadway show. tracy smith is talking with pam grier, whose iconic '70s roles revolutionized action movies. seth doane takes us to the biennale in venice where an american artist is making history. plus, a story from steve hartman and more this "sunday morning" for the 26th of may, 2024. and we'll be back after this. ♪ ♪

on this memorial day weekend, david martin shows us how technology is keeping the experiences of the greatest generation alive for generations to come. >> we were innocent kids who weren't ready for what was coming. >> reporter: vincent speranza, the son of italian immigrants enlisted when he turned 18. >> i decided to become a paratrooper when i found out that that would probably be the fastest way to get into the battle. >> reporter: and fought in the battle of the bulge, hitler's

last gasp attempt to stave off defeat in the final months of the war in europe. >> 12,000 americans in that town to fought off 56,000 troops. >> reporter: vincent speranza died last year. but visitors to the national world war ii museum in new orleans can still talk to him. did you have any close calls? >> i was trying to take a drink from my canteen, and it slipped out of my hands. when i bent over to pick up the canteen, a bullet went right through my helmet and i had been standing, it would have went through the middle of my chest. >> it uses voice recognition software and artificial intelligence to access questions that, from interviews we have had with all of the veterans, where we've asked them roughly 1,000 questions. >> reporter: museum vice president peter crean is in a race against time to preserve not just the stories, but the people who lived them. >> unfortunately, we are coming to a time where there are fewer

and fewer world war ii veterans to be able to actually talk to. >> reporter: 18 veterans of the war effort each sat for two days of interviews in a specially configured hollywood studio. bomber pilot john luckadoo was one. >> it was an intriguing concept. extremely so. >> reporter: what intrigued you? >> the thought that my great, great, great in-grandchildren cd speak to me and ask me i anything that came to their minds. and that it would automatically scroll to my answer. >> reporter: not just your great, great-grandchildren. everybody's great, great-grandchildren. >> yes, anyone will be able to. >> reporter: anyone will be able to ask woody williams about seeing the flag raised on iwo jima. >> it was flying. had just reached its peak when they raised it on top of the

mountain. and i didn't see it go up, but i saw the minute it got up. >> reporter: until his passing, williams was the war's last living recipient of the medal of honor. >> i received the medal of honor for eliminating the enemy within seven -- on iwo jima. >> reporter: the war wasn't won just on the battlefield. >> i loved math. >> reporter: grace brown was a rosie the riveter who made parts for bombers. >> the war was not and won by the average guy who was down the street or the woman who was a nurse or working in the factory. >> reporter: john luckadoo was 20 years old when he flew bombing missions over germany. >> about as dangerous as you could imagine because we were going up against a very formidable german air force that had been fighting for four

years. >> reporter: how many missions did you fly? >> if you survived, 25. you were eligible to return to the united states. >> reporter: what were the odds of surviving 25 missions? >> less than 1 in 4. we didn't know what we were doing. >> reporter: now 102 years old, luckadoo got his first look at how he'll be remembered. >> what was your worst mission? >> i was returned on the bomb run. we had an 18-ship formation. we lost 12 out of the 18 ships. instantly. >> reporter: so what do you think are your answers? >> kind of eerie to speak to yourself. >> reporter: so that's the self. >> all right. >> reporter: that generations are going to know. >> all right. >> reporter: are you good with that? >> well, it will be interesting

to see how the generations react to it. >> reporter: yeah. it's not very important as to how i react to it. >> reporter: eact not just to his war stories, but to what happened when he came home. >> they rationed us to a fifth of whiskey a day. i soon realized that that wasn't enough. i was rapidly becoming an alcoholic. >> reporter: young generations are going to find out that, too, about you? >> well, i did want to convey the fact that this is the kind of state that you could be left in if you were experiencing what we experienced in those days, that war does that, can do that to you. >> i am sorry. it's overwhelming. >> reporter: corbett summers, whose father served in world war ii, was one of the first members of the public to see the new exhibit. >> everyone should have that opportunity to see that generation. i could stand there all day and talk to each and every one of

them and listen to their stories and what they went through. >> fear in war is something that's always there. >> reporter: you could read all the great histories of the war and never find a better answer to why soldiers fight than from the late vincent speranza. >> in your mind swirling around, the most important thought you had was, am i going to be able to stand up to my friends? yes, you're a combat soldier. >> reporter: more than 600,000 visitors a year -- >> i was assigned to the 99th fighter squad the 333rd second fighter group in italy. >> reporter: can hear firsthand from veterans like tuskegee airmen george hardy about a time when it was all on the line. >> lives had been expended. to protect our freedom and our values and what we considered

our ideals. and democracy. >> reporter: do you think people today have a good understanding of withb weather watch? >> certainly not. the biggest thing they don't understand is how the civilian population, those who were not in uniform, particularly women, rallied behind the war effort. we were unified like we have never been before and, sadly, probably never will again.

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seth doane introduces us to an american artist whose work is on display and breaking new ground. >> reporter: amid the spectacle that's venice, this still stood out. a jim jordan. . >> this is my one chance to do this. >> reporter: jeffrey gibson is the first indigenous artist to be chosen to represent the united states with a solo exhibition at the biennale in italy. dubbed the olympics of the art world, more than 330 artists from about 80 countries have been selected, many displaying work in specially built national pavilions. it's a contemporary art exhibition, which often reflects current events. ukraine showed videos of russia's invasion and israel's team notes they will only open when a ceasefire and hostage

release agreement is reached. >> these command respect, and i wanted you to walk in and have to immediately look up. >> reporter: jeffrey gibson is making his own cultural commentary. >> i don't make work to please people, but i do make work to communicate with people. >> reporter: pulling from text from a 1902 letter of reprimand to a superintendent about indigenous students growing out their hair. for some, a sign of identity and strength. >> the return goes back to the reservation and falls into the old custom of letting his hair grow long. it's not that i don't know that these parts of history exist. i am shocked how comfortable people are just kind of stating it. >> reporter: we first met the artist at his studio in december. he and his teamwork from a converted schoolhouse in upstate new york. what are you bringing to the pavilion? >> i want them to see survival. i have want them to see innovation. i want them to see empowered people because so often at least in my lifetime we have been

represented through our trauma. i want to present us as being very present and aware and really powerful. >> reporter: he works with a variety of materials, including beads. >> the thing about beads, i get to work with color, i get to work with pattern. these are two things that i love. people can look at beads and they immediately know this is coming from a different history than a rembrandt painting. >> reporter: gibson grew up in the u.s., korea, and germany. he is member. mississippi band of choctaw indians and is of cherokee descent. in 2010 he started using punching bags as a canvas. >> it is about a relationship of wanting to fight back. it is cathartic. it's a reclamation of power, of cultural identity. >> reporter: some of his work is done on an imposing scale. >> there is a weight and responsibility of identifying as indigenous or native.

you carry with you a lot. >> reporter: you wanted to signify that with just the weight of the fringe? >> yes, but for me looking back and realizing why did i impulsively want to make the fringe so heavy? then i search for the words. owe, that makes perfect sense. >> reporter: what do you say who somebody who says, i don't get it? >> if i'm feeling good i might say, well, tell me what it is you do see? and it's usually not that far often. it's okay for people not to get it. my job isn't to make sure everybody gets it. >> reporter: the biennale is something that you and jeffrey have been talking about for a long time? >> yes, yes. >> reporter: kathleen ash-milby of the portland art museum teamed up to submit a proposal to the state department which selects the artists who will represent the u.s. why is the biennale so important to an artist, to the art world? >> it is truly a global stage. artists like jeffrey is having a

lot of success in the united states, but people outside the united states don't really have an idea of who he is. and here people just come from all over to see what's important. >> reporter: thidoes this changn art? >> it can. >> reporter: ash-milby, a member of the navajo nation, is the first native american curator and commissioner for the u.s. pavilion. there are a lot of firsts here. >> absolutely. it's long overdue for a native american artist to be representing the united states in this place. >> reporter: one of the questions that's followed -- >> during my career, it's been why do you identify as a native or indigenous artist? don't you find that to be pigeon holding? >> reporter: what's the answer. >> i have moved beyond titles. my answer is if i didn't claim to be indigenous, if i didn't put that forward, there wouldn't be representation. i feel like it's important that we're represented. >> reporter: he has called this exhibition the space in which to

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♪ >> reporter: she is perhaps one of the lesser known ancient egyptian goddesses. her name is hasat, depicted as a cow, worshiped as the goddess of nourishment. so perhaps it's not that much of a surprise that a cow goddess and barbecue would eventually meet. >> oh, man. good. >> reporter: this is kg barbecue in austin, texas. >> it's a great somewhere ducks. >> reporter: pitmaster kareem elghayesh has blended the flavors of ancient egypt with an age-old cowboy tradition. >> a combo i never heard of before. >> yeah. i never seen pomegranate seeds on barbecue. >> reporter: his presentation is as unique as the taste. each dish looks like a landscape. painted with a vibrant colors of the middle east. meats of all sorts, lamb, kofta

sausages seasoned with cumin, coriander and turmeric. >> my goal was to present something that looks familiar. you try it and it's an explosion of flavors. >> reporter: kareem first came to texas from cairo on a whim. >> i know western movies. i know cowboys. i know country music. >> reporter: he never tasted texas barbecue, but when he did re-creating it for himself became his life's work. sounds like you became a little obsessed with figuring out how to do? >> a little bit, yeah. >> reporter: he was a finance executive back in cairo where in his spare time he would search for a cut of brisket to try his hand at his new found love. >> i would go with the cow chart, you know, on my phone. this is where the wris ket is. can you cut it? >> reporter: ten years after his first taste of texas barbecue, kareem opened his own food truck. within months his egyptian style

barbecue had earned a nomination for a prestigious james beard award. >> don't ask me how. >> i think it's beautiful. i think it's like a work of art. i can't wait to eat this. >> i think a lot of the immigrants coming to texas specifically you see barbecue as a way, a pallet to bring the flavors of their culture to the forefront. >> reporter: that's daniel vaughn, the influential barbecue editor for "texas monthly." we found him at the magazine's annual barbecue fest in lockhart this past fall. >> that's the good sound right there. >> reporter: hovering around a whole pig being prepared by don nwynn who with his brother theo started vietnamese-style pop-up in houston called choi barbecue. this dish offers pork shoulder on a bed of vermicelli noodles and flavored with a vietnamese fish sauce.

>> this is pspot on right here. >> ever tasted anything like this? >> no. that's unique. >> i see people who sort of rail against the idea of all these changes in texas barbecue. but when you sit them down with that plate in front of them, they are rarely arguing about whether it's good or not, right? >> reporter: certainly lining up at this asian-style texas smokehouse called kemuri tatsu-ya, also in austin. the chef is tokyo-born, but texas raised. he doesn't see his barbecue as some kind of trendy fusion. to him it's just as natural as pairing salt and pepper. >> what i make is just comes through me, you know, as an experience. i don't like to use the word fusion. i think, to me, it's deeper than that. >> reporter: he has been racking up awards for items like his barbecue bent o box, take brisket, wrap it in nori and just eat it like hand roll.

>> good. >> reporter: then this hugely popular ramen dish where barbecue brisket is served atop thick slurp-worthy noodles accompanied with a pork bone broth for dipping. >> you coat the noodle. texas barbecue is perfect to its form. i respect it. so to me i'm just creating vehicles to showcase and highlight. i'm a not trying to alter what it is. >> they are six, search hours in. >> reporter: neither is kareem elghayesh. >> i am just someone that followed my brain. i'm like, this is what i want to do, so i am going to do it. >> reporter: follow your heart? >> exactly, follow my heart. >> reporter: he just got his u.s. citizenship last year and now proudly wears an american flag on his barbecue apron next to his egyptian pendant. a texan by way of cairo who just put a few more notches in the nation's barbecue belt.

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i got a black belt in karate. ♪ >> i got my black belt in barstools. >> 50 years after her performance in the classic action film "foxy brown," pam grier isn't kicking quite as much butt these days, but she is still thrilling audiences. tracy smith has our "sunday profile." >> have no fear. pam grier is here. >> reporter: to the movie going public, pam grier really was a

one-woman hit squad. she was a gun-toting goddess who made her name in films like "coffy" and the immortal "foxy brown" where she fought against low-life drug dealers and the idea that a woman couldn't outfight a man. >> i swear, baby, i don't know what you talking about! >> reporter: you didn't realize at the time you were the first female action hero? >> yeah, i was too fall, feet too big. i didn't fit the plan or anything. >> reporter: so you changed the plan? i changed it, but it was welcomed. >> reporter: it was welcomed all right. in the 1970s, the height of the blaxploitation film era, pam grier was the undisputed queen of the genre and one of the few female lead action stars ever. >> what are you doing here? >> delivering the milk. >> not a lot of other women saw to emulate me because it's hard.

firing a gun, arms threaten people. standing up to authority, standing up to injustice is daunting, and i didn't know any better, i guess. >> pam! this way please! >> reporter: but she always seemed to win and, in a long career, graduated to roles that didn't involve breaking heads. >> you're a great teacher. >> reporter: like this one opposite julia roberts and tom hanks. >> i got a whiff of the chef. he smelled like grilled onions. >> reporter: and now show is the mother of an l.a. homicide cop in the second season of the hit horror series "them" now streaming on amazon prime. >> are you okay? >> you must get offered a lot of projects? what made you decide to say yes to this one, to "them: the

scare"? >> insanity, because i am not good with bump in the night. i lock the doors, turn on the lights. don't sneak up behind me. >> reporter: you don't like to be scared? >> nope. >> reporter: there have been times when her real life was scarier than anything in a movie house. pamela suzette grier was born 75 years ago today, may 26th. an air force brat raised near bases from north carolina to the u.k. her family eventually settled in colorado where young pam learned some of the things that would help her later on. >> i had this rawness, you know, from the hood that i didn't have to learn how to ride a horse, didn't have to learn how to spank a behind, didn't have ho learn how to throw a skillet. things came with my craft. >> no one escapes from my prison. no one! >> reporter: and to perfect that craft she went to l.a. in the '60s where she was discovered and subsequently cast in a

series of tough prison girl movies like "women in cages" and "the big bird cage." her love life got attention, too. she never married, but grier was romantically linked to a number of high-profile men. among them comic legend richard pryor. do you think you could have married richard pryor? >> for a day. i left relationships not falling out of love, but not being loved. and there is a difference. maybe my husband, partner, mate was film making. >> reporter: by the mid '60s she was a fixture in hollywood on screens big and small. then her life hit a pretty big bump. you are having this great career ride and suddenly in 1988 you go to the doctor and they give you this cancer diagnosis and they

told you had 18 months to live? >> mm-hmm. yes. my world literally came to a screeching halt that day in the office. it's very serious because it's a stage four, and we found it in wider areas in your body. that's how we evolve. they didn't say cancer. they said the "c" word. and i was like, you can say cancer. and i'm going to give to my all. >> we got to make an unscheduled stop! >> reporter: and her all was enough. she recovered and started to put her career back on track. turns out, pam grier had fans in high places. something she found out by accident while watching a quentin tarantino film. in 1990s you go to the theater with your friends to see this little movie "reservoir dogs"? >> yes. >> reporter: and you got quite a shock? >> yes, i did.

in the car they bring up this woman who is a crime fighter named foxy brown. >> and grier did the film. christie love was like pam grier tv show without pam grier. >> everyone goes, and i turn around and point to me. >> reporter: not long after this, she met tarantino in person who told her he was writing a screenplay with her in mind. >> i didn't believe it. he is the number one premier filmmaker, pop film maker in the world. i mean the world. he said, no, seriously, i am going to send to you. ♪ >> reporter: and it was bigger than she ever imagined. pam grier was the title character in quentin tarantino's jackie brown opposite samuel l. jackson, robert de niro, and michael keaton. >> she didn't give me a bag. melanie was not a part of the plan. >> reporter: not surprisingly, the experience turned her into a

big tarantino fan. >> i hope he doesn't retire. i don't know -- i'll babysit his children so he can go to work. i don't want him to retire. there is so much more to him. and he may not want to give it, but i have been just fortunate to experience his lessons, his joy he has shared with me. >> look at that. oh, my gosh. >> reporter: it seems the joy continues. in a storefront attached to his vista theater in los angeles, quentin tarantino build a coffy shop named for one of pam grier's most famous characters. >> have you seen this? >> to, i wanted to save it for you. >> reporter: inside the place is basically a shrine with her face on everything from posters to coffee cups. is it overwhelming? >> yes, a lot overwhelming. >> reporter: pam grier seems comfortable with being an icon as long as it means she can keep doing what she loves.

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100 years ago this month, two chicago teenagers tried to pull off what they thought was the perfect crime. as erin moriarty of "48 hours" reports, what happened next intrigues us to this day. >> reporter: inside a specially designed box at the chicago history museum sits a century-old pair of tortoiseshell-framed eyeglasses. a chilling reminder, says paul durica, the museum's director ef exhibitions, of one of the most troubling crimes in american history. the 1924 kidnapping and murder of a 14-year-old boy in chicago. >> it came seemingly out of nowhere. americans sadly were becoming

more accustomed to violent crime, particularly in connection with prohibition, but not a case like this. >> reporter: a case that remains just as disturbing today. it happened on may 21, 1924 in the of a nunt chicago neighborhood of kenwood. the killers 19-year-old nathan leopold and 18-year-old richard loeb. both were academically gifted young men. leopold was about to start law school at harvard. both grew up with great wealth and privilege. >> in one of the most horrible aspects of this case, from the beginning leopold and loeb knew they wanted to kidnap a young person and kill that person. they were going to develop it kidnap and ransom plot to throw off investigators. they wanted to get away with the perfect murder. >> reporter: bobby franks dominated headlines around the world for months and inspired

numerous books, plays and movies over the years since, including alfred hitchcock's "rope." >> his body went limp. i knew it was over. >> and then? >> then i felt tremendously exhilarated. >> how did you feel? >> what you are looking at is the harvard school for boys. so this was a preparatory school here in chicago. bobby stayed after school to umpire a baseball game. >> reporter: the victim began his two-block walk home around 5:00 p.m. at the same time, says durica, leopold and loeb were driving through the neighborhood in a rented car looking for a boy, any boy, to kill. >> because he wasn't in a group of other kids, it made him kind of a perfect target. but a car pulls up to the side of him and someone calls out his name. that person is richard loeb. >> reporter: bobby franks knew loeb. they were distant cousins.

he got into the car and was never seen alive again. >> bobby was a boy just trying to get home. >> reporter: how quickly did it happen? >> within a minute or two. >> reporter: he is just gone? >> he is gone. vanished. >> reporter: investigators believed that franks was killed immediately. leopold and loeb, who had planned the murder for months, discarded the boy's body 11 miles away at ann isolated railroad yard. the killers avid readers of crime stories later sent a typed ransom note to the franks' home. >> in fact, the ransom note was lifted almost word for word are from a story called the kidnapping syndicate that appeared in detective story magazine. >> reporter: leopold and loeb, says durica, arrogantly thought they'd never be connected to the boy's murder. but they were quickly tripped up by those eyeglasses made by new york optician almer coe & company. >> the unsung hero, if there is a hero in the story, is the

almer coe & company employee who went through 54,000 records and was able to determine there were three pairs of glasses that matched the prescription, the type of frame, and critically the type of hinge used. >> reporter: one pair belonged to leopold, who had dropped the glasses at the railyard ever a typewriter he owned was tied to the ransom note, he and loeb were interrogated and both quickly cracked. >> this is the original ransom letter that they wrote prior to abducting bobby franks. >> reporter: that typed ransom letter that demanded $10,000 in unmarked bills, an amount equivalent to $180,000 today, is now part of extensive archives kept at northwestern university. kevin leonard, the university historian, discovered it inside a vault at the law school along with transcripts of the killers'

chilling confessions. >> and it is grisly and disturbing. i will confess to you i never finished the confessions because they were so cold. i never got a sense of any remorse there. it was just really difficult for me to read. >> reporter: but was there anything in there that gave you some sense why these young men would do this? >> no, i have never in my own mind been able to resolve that problem. it remains a mystery. >> reporter: it's not just historians who grapple with that mystery. do you remember the very first article that you read? was it a headline? >> it was. the boys admit to murder, something like that. i remember thinking, oh god, that's my great uncle. good lord, i am related to this family. >> reporter: ernie nathan is richard loeb's great nephew. >> a relative of mine could kill another person, that bugged me a lot.

all my other relatives on loeb's side are nice people, civic minded. >> reporter: it was shocking to everyone who knew the families. richard loeb and nathan leopold seen here alongside their defense attorney famed orator clarence darrow were gexamined y doctors and alienists. title used by psychiatrists at the time trying to understand what drove these teenagers to kill. >> they loved to tell the story. they go into great detail with investigators about how the crime was planned, how it was committed. they don't look like people particularly concerned the consequences of their actions. >> reporter: every aspect of their lives was dissected, including their rumored intimate relationship. >> they had a codependent relationship and they pushed each other to anti-social acts. >> reporter: both men pleaded guilty and faced death by hanging, but their lives were saved by darrow, who argued at sentencing that bobby franks'

murder could only have been the senseless act of immature and diseased children. >> darrow got them life in prison instead. >> reporter: that life sentence ended in death for loeb, who was murdered by a fellow inmate in 1936. leopold was paroled in 1958. >> you hope all of you feel that a third of a century spent in prison has been severe punishment and are happy to see me free. >> reporter: to this day the motive remains elusive. why did they do it? earnest nathan believes neither leopold or loeb would have committed the murder on his own. you say when the two, leopold and loeb, got together they became -- >> a third person, yes. the boy's mother, this young richard -- >> reporter: two years ago, earn n he donated his family's personal papers to northwestern university, including this

letter. richard loeb wrote his parents from prison. dear mom and dad, this thing is all too terrible. i have thought and thought about it, and even now i don't seem to be able to understand it. i just can't seem to figure out how it all came about. >> he leaves the harvard school. he two blocks away from his house. >> reporter: for the past 16, paul dureka has been offering walking tours of the kenwood neighborhood, always stopping at the home where bobby franks ones lived. >> what gets lost in the story is bobby, the victim, in a strange and unsettling way might suggest we're more like leopold and loeb than we'd like to be. they wanted to pull off the perfect crime. they didn't pull off the perfect crime, but they committed a memorable one and we are still talking about them a century later.

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and i got a lot of comisery. >> dutch wonderland. you knew you would have fun. we drove past it. >> the crater of diamonds, and i could never understand why my dad would not let us dig for diamonds. >> dinosaur world. it was a giant dinosaur. how could you not stop for the giant dinosaur? >> reporter: some live lifetime and never see beyond the glossy brochure of their wishful thinking. but not me. i recently returned to gatlinburg and got a surprise my younger self could have never imagined. >> this is worth the wait. >> reporter: turns out hillbilly golf is still in business. >> it's like i remember it, too! ♪ ♪ >> reporter: so, finally i rode up and saw for the first time the course of my dreams. built right into the side of a mountain, and even though i'm not a great putter, not by auto

a short shot, after 18 holes of excitement and excuses -- >> that's a maintenance issue. >> reporter: i sincerely believe my parents did me a favor. delayed gratification beats instant every time. and saying no helps kids grow. which is why, when i got home and showed my kids pictures from the trip -- >> will you take us to hillbilly golf? >> reporter: i decided to give them something to look forward to. >> no. >> reporter: in 50 years. ♪ (husband) we just want to have enough money for retirement. (wife) and travel to visit our grandchildren. (fisher investments) i understand. that's why at fisher investments we start by getting to know each other. so i can learn about your family, lifestyle, goals and needs, allowing us to tailor your portfolio. (wife) what about commission-based products? (fisher investments) we don't sell those. we're a fiduciary, obligated to act in your best interest. (husband) so how do your management fees work? (fisher investments) we have a transparent fee, structured so we do better when you do better. at fisher investments, we're clearly different.

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it's a rock group. >> my god. i am on the road with a rock group, grandma. it's called the deep six. yeah, that was my opening scene in "another world." i was 16 years old. that's when i fell in love with acting. >> reporter: in the decades since she's co-starred in movies like -- >> will you dance with me? >> "born on the fourth of july." >> i want to go to new york. >> new york? >> reporter: "mr. and mrs. bridge." >> the city be the very devil. >> i don't need to be your girlfriend. i just want to know you again. >> reporter: and "singles." >> what took you so long? >> reporter: she headlined the hit tv series "the closer," and she has directed for big and small screens. so, what's she doing in a 157-seat theater off broadway? >> have you done your physical therapy yet, lucy? >> i love the play. and it feels like we're talking about stuff that's important, that doesn't get a lot of light

shown on it, which is disability, but doing it in this incredible container of a rom-com and like a family dysfunction story. like which is my jam. >> reporter: family dysfunction is my jam. i want to stitch that on a pillow for you. >> exactly. so true though. >> reporter: in all of me by playwright laura winters, sedgwick plays connie, the working class mother of lucy. >> the doctor wants to give me medical marijuana. >> nice! >> reporter: who uses a scooter and communicates primarily by a text-to-speech technology. >> hi, my name is alfonso and i just moved here from manhattan. >> reporter: as does lucy's romantic interest alfonso. >> did someone die? >> i think people might be afraid if there is two people in wheelchairs that it's going to be sad, and it's anything but. it's hilarious. >> you hooked up with a lot of people?

>> reporter: you need to win a special tony for side-eye. >> thank you! >> she has the best side eye. >> reporter: just for side eye. >> i have been practicing all my life. >> may i kiss you? >> reporter: madison ferris and danny j. gomez play the romantic leads. they like the play for not indulging had what's called inspiration porn. what is inspiration important? >> it's like look at this disabled person. he just scored the basket at the end and everyone picks him up and it's like, he is so inspirational. >> or they have a special skill that no one else can do. they might have existed throug life never hacking a computer in their life and then once they become disabled that's their talent. >> reporter: total savant? >> yeah. >> reporter: it explores the low

expectations placed on disabled people. >> i look to be a therapist. >> no you don't. since when? >> reporter: something ferris and gomez understand well. >> i had a mountain biking accident that left me paralyzed from the waist down. i didn't think anything in life was possible. but as people with disabilities, we are the best adapters of life. we adapt to any situation. >> i think my mom kind of expected me to stay home and live with her. boy, did i prove her wrong. >> reporter: ferris, who has muscular dystrophy, exceeded those expectations. making her professional debut on broadway opposite sally field in "the glass menagerie." >> i am going to ask alfonso if i can move in with him. >> sure. >> reporter: the push and pull between parent and child is something kyra sedgwick has thought a lot about since her own two kids with husband actor kevin bacon left the nest.

complete this sentence. if you have done your job as a mother, then? >> your kids leave. yeah, your kids leave. they just don't need you in the same way that really they can survive without you. just kind of heartbreaking. i will always wake up in the morning and the first thing i think about is them. they don't need me for their day to day. >> reporter: sedgwick and bacon have been married more than 35 years. how does the stability of your current family, you and kevin, your two kids, compare with the family you grew up in? >> oh, they are very different. i mean, no question. my father left when i was 2 1/2, left my mom with three kids. i think there is trauma there, right? there is trauma. no one gets out alive with the trauma. no one does. >> reporter: when sedgwick was 6 years old, her mother married renowned art collector ben heller. what was that world like? >> like a whole other world. we had been kids who played tag

in the house and i was really a tom boy. then suddenly it was like there were roscoe's and pollocks and gottliebs. we had to be careful. we were surrounded by important art. that felt clear. like this is important art. so you should be important, too. >> reporter: once she showed talent, the expectations on her were raised. >> once i started to act, suddenly my parents were like, oh, there is something really -- i felt them shift their attention in a way that felt pretty intense, actually. i think they had high expectations for me, and i had high expectations of myself. >> reporter: do you think that was good, those expectations? >> well, i think it paid off. i mean, i really think it paid off. at, you know, 57, 58, i'm producing a lot of things that will be high-profile and directing things that be will high-profile, and i guess the message for me is, don't believe

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jon wertheim joining us from "60 minutes," explains why. >> did you know you this level of courage in you? are you surprising yourself right now? >> yes, i was. >> reporter: you are? >> i am a very careful person. i would think 300 times before saying something. if some topic like this will come up, i almost sit in the corner without saying anything. but then in one moment i just realize that i cannot just sit -- >> reporter: and not say anything? for the first half-dozen years of her career, daria kasatkina was known as an ascending player whose tennis was predicated on brains, not braun. using her racket less as a high-powered weapon than a scalpel. she was known throughout tennis by her nickname, dasha. she was not known for being political or particularly outspoken. then in february 2022, russia invaded ukraine.

and she condemned her country for it. two years ago you had called russia's invasion of ukraine a full-blown nightmare. how do sigh that nightmare ending now? >> i don't know. honestly, i don't see the end right now. seems like it's stuck in one spot and doesn't go anywhere. all i want is to finish as soon as possible. it's been terribe. >> reporter: five months after the invasion, kasatkina emboldened made another statement she knew could trigger backlash in russia, a country famously hostile togay rights. she was in a relationship with another russian athlete.

natasha zabiiako, a former olympic skater. when you decided to come out and announce your relationship with natasha, you did it on social media. what was the reaction as you perceived? >> well, the reaction was loud, but i never regret about it because i realize that it was keeping me so tight, like i couldn't, like, 100% myself in life, and then on the tennis court as well because all these things are connected. feel so much better. >> reporter: this volley of candor changed her life and her status, not least with her homeland. your relationship with russia's complicated, isn't it? >> well, not exactly with russia. i love my country. like, before the war started, i spent so good with quality time there. i really was enjoying coming back there, spending time with my family, friends.

i felt a fish in the water. now probably not. >> reporter: she was born in an industrial city by sexted by the river east of moscow. she turned pro as a teenager. by 2018, age 21, one of the world's top players, winning tournaments. during breaks from the tour she relished returning home. no more. she hasn't been back to russia since the invasion began more than two years ago. it's been made clear that she is not welcome. there was a russian politician that called for you to be labeled a foreign agent. >> well, yes. this guy actually works in the sport ministry. so he actually is supposed to improve the sport, you know, our country, and support athletes. this action doesn't seem exactly

like that. he didn't succeed. >> reporter: three of her brothers have left the country and moved to canada, her elderly parents choose to remain in russia. do you worry about them? >> i always worry about them. about them. about the peoplei love, of course. i have my thoughts. but they are my parents. if i want them to respect my decisions, i have to respect their decisions. >> reporter: now 27, she hopscotches the globe from tournament to tournament but with no real base, she lives to out of suitcases, putting in training blocks when and where she can. she is simultaneously a tennis star -- >> have to sfiend the balance. >> reporter: and tennis nomad. your passport gets a lot of stamps? you go to a lot of places? >> yes. >> reporter: one week dubai. one week this tennis academy in spain where we met her in april during a rare off week. >> basically, for me the best day off is when i don't have a plan for the day, where i can

just do whatever i feel in the certain moment. >> reporter: but she is not alone. she and zabiiako go everywhere together, leading the kind of open life they feel they could not in russia. she slid into your dms? that's how you met? >> yeah. and pretending like she loves tennis and she knows tennis. >> i know it a little bit. >> now more. >> now much more, yeah. >> reporter: now you're traveling the circuit just like dasha is? >> yeah, and i didn't miss one game since we met, actually. >> cooking with dasha. >> reporter: to chronicle their journey, literally and metaphorically, and to find sense of place, they produce a popular video series on youtube. dasha is quick to note that natasha does the heavy lifting. >> first of all, i like that we have something to do together. i love that it helps you to relax a little bit because tennis is so tough and you can enjoy a little bit more.

>> reporter: but kasatkina also confronts weightier topics. when russian opposition leader alexei navalny died suspiciously in february, kasatkina showed solidarity with navalny's widow. >> she wanted to show that he is not scared, not afraid, and that people will don't have to be afraid. it was very brave for him. maybe too brave that he had to pay pay, the payment was too high. >> reporter: do you fear what the russian government might do to you and your family? >> well, so far i think i didn't cross this line so that they can do something. so i hope not. >> reporter: do you think there is a line that you know not to cross? >> there is always a line. >> reporter: she hasn't ruled out returning to russia. in fact, she is eager to. >> constant feeling of missing your home. >> reporter: first, she says,

there are conditions the country would have to meet. >> so, obviously, war has to end. and few laws has to be changed. >> reporter: homophobic laws? >> yes, has to be changed. in order for me to feel safe going back. i am missing my home. one day i want to come back. when this day will come, nobody knows. but i will wait for it. like, when i was a kid, i wished that i can do -- when i grow up, i can do the right things. so, seems like i didn't betray that small girl. >> reporter: you have done right by that little girl? >> yeah, i hope so. ki >> reporter: kasatkina's activism has not exacted a price on her tennis. she is playing as well as ever. and she resist any suggestion she is following in the tradition of billie jean king,

arthur ashe and martina navratilova. tennis players who used their platforms to highlight injustice. but her moral courage has been deeply affecting to her partner. >> i'm proud of dasha, not only because of this, but i'm proud of her every day, even bad days. doesn't matter. i'm proud of you every day. every single day. >> i'm proud of you, too. >> reporter: but you both made a decision that i think a lot of people agonize over. doesn't sound like either of you have any regrets about the way you have come out, led your life, and conducted yourself these last two years? >> yeah. zero. zero regrets. >> zero regrets. >> reporter: as for her message to fellow russians, daria kasatkina says it's quite simple. >> don't be scared. everything is going to be all right. >> reporter: sounds a lot like navalny's message? >> yeah. i really believe that loving kindness will win at the end.

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i'm jane pauley. enjoy the holiday and please join us when our trumpet sounds again next "sunday morning." ♪ i'm margaret brennan and on this memorial day weekend, we'll take a look we'll take a look at some american traditions and the challenges those traditions face in the modern era. this weekend included one sure sign of summer, the presidential commencement speech at westpoint. this year it was delivered with words of warning. >> fed