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tv   Face the Nation  CBS  June 16, 2024 8:30am-9:01am PDT

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that i didn't hang the moon ♪ ♪ there never was a monster in the closet of his room ♪ ♪ some day when he's driving home with his son on his knee ♪ ♪ i hope he's trying to be the man he sees in me ♪ ♪ the man he sees in me ♪ ♪ the man he sees in me ♪ i'm margaret brennan in washington. this week on "face the nation," u.s. '24 roller coaster enters a new phase, and stepping up warnings of a terror attack here in the u.s. president biden spent most of his week thousands of miles away from home, conferring with g7
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allies in italy, including some facetime with italy's most famous resident. to a star-studded hollywood fund-raiser with his former boss at his side, but overshadowing the president's week, son hunter's conviction on federal gun charges. >> i said i would abide by the jury's decision. i will do that, and i will not pardon him. >> less than a month before his sentencing, donald trump took a trip to capitol hill. his first since the january 6th attack. he rallied republicans and made amends with some of his frostier followers. ♪ happy birthday ♪ >> after a celebration of his 7th birthday, the former president spent the weekend in michigan, courting black voters. at a conservative gathering, he seized on new security threats to make his case for why he'll keep the country safer. >> i've arrested not one, not
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two, but eight suspected terrorists at levels nobody's ever seen before, and we're going to pay a big price. we got to get them out fast. and mike turner, we'll ask him about that plot. and the urgent warnings by top officials that a terror attack could happen on u.s. soil. >> and i would be hard-pressed to think of a time when so many different threats to our public safety and national security were so elevated all at the same time. >> maryland democratic governor wes moore will also be here. plus, we'll talk to the president of the minneapolis federal reserve neil kashkari about the state of the union. and finally a conversation with bill gates. he's invested more than a billion dollars of his fortune in a nuclear energy company. we'll ask him why he believes it's a big part of america's green energy future. it's all just ahead on "face the nation." ♪
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and we have a lot to get to this morning. we're going to begin with the republican chairman of the house intelligence committee, ohio congressman mike turner. welcome back to "face the nation." >> morning, margaret. >> chair turner, last week as you know, there were federal immigration arrests of these eight individuals with suspected ties to isis. they were rounded up in philadelphia, los angeles, and new york. they traveled from central asasia t . have you confirmed tlthere is a plot? >> i cannot confirm nor deny. i can talk about the public statements that we are at the highest level of a possible terrorist threat, that the administration's policies have
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absolutely, you know, directly related to threats to americans. these are no longer speculative, no longer hypothetical. we have actual administration officials stepping forward and certainly our committee and our k committee members have con kcurd that we're allowing people to cross the border unvetted. we have terrorists actively working inside the united states that are a threat to americans. >> well, the issue as we understand it from our reporting is that there was vetting, but the vetting didn't turn up any derogatory information. doesn't that indicate that there's a broader problem with the system that congress would also have to address? >> well, margaret, as you know, there are those who are vetted and in the vetting process there is not evidence the united states currently has that they're actively engaged in terrorist plotting or engaged with terrorist groups organizations, and this administration by their own policy are then allowing those individuals in instead of fully vetting them, fully
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understanding what the risk is to the united states, and for the fact that they're letting them in and they're entering the united states through the southern border illegally, and that's what the threat is. that's what director wray is identifying and is bringing forward. this administration's policies are directly resulting in people who are in the united states illegally who have ties to terrorist groups and organizations and this is a threat. >> the u.s. has already been in a heightened threat environment, but this past week, our cbs colleague and the former deputy cia director mikem morel wrote that there is a serious threat of a terrorist attack in the months ahead. he called on congressional committees like the one you chair to have public hearings with the director of intelligence, the cia and the national counterterrorism center. will you commit to doing that? >> well, we have. in fact, the testimony that you just played of director wray -- >> from those individuals. >> the testimony that you just
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played of director wray was a result of the intelligence committees including mine. director wray said exactly the same thing publicly of the threat. what we have done and continued to do, and what this administration needs to be held to is that they need to declassify the information of the terrorist threats that they're seeing so that there can be a public discourse, concerning what the administration's risk and threats are. this was noble and expected as a result of the biden administration's policy of an open southern border, and we are seeing it absolutely across the country. the -- and my committee has been open. my members have been open, and publicly discussing this threat, and pointing the finger direct will you at the administration's policies. >> well, as you know, the administration points back asking for more authorities and congress refused to act. i want to ask you about the intelligence committee. you've tried to keep it nonpartisan as you've said on this program. speaker johnson though recently decided as you know to add two
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congressmen, scot perry and ronny jackson reportedly at the behest of donald trump. one of your members referred to perry as a threat to intelligence oversight. quote, he will be on the very committee that oversees the fbi while he is directly under investigation by this very agency. this in and of itself amounts to a disqualifying conflict of interests. do you think that is a disqualifying conflict of interest? >> well, being concerned obviously about that issue, and being the chairman, i kacontact them in due diligence to see if there was an issue to resolve or address, and they indicated there was not an ongoing or continuing issue or even a current issue -- >> the fbi told you that? >> i think the thing -- the ic told us that. i think what's really important here is that the speaker makes this appointment, and then what he's done since. the speaker has absolutely committed himself to these two individuals following the rules -- not only the laws. both of them have military experience. both of them have had access to
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classified information before, and there's been no report of any incidences of their mishandling of classified information. the speaker has met with our committee, republican members. he has spoken to jim himes, where all of these assurances have been made, but the speaker has said this, that he is going to continue to monitor this situation. if there's any indication of anything improper happening, he will intervene, and i believe the speaker will assert leadership here. >> and withdraw that nomination potentially? scott perry has come out and took aim at you as you know because he said if he gets on this committee, he'll conduct actual oversight, not blind obedience to some facets of our intelligence community, and he claimed they're spying on the american people. how do you respond to that? >> he has apologized, and certainly those are the type of words that you would not want from somebody who's joining a committee that is obviously very dedicated to national security and very dedicated to working on
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a bipartisan way. i think that upon him joining the committee and looking at the work that both he gets to do, and the work that we're doing that he'll be absolutely satisfied that he can play a role to -- in the work that we're doing for national security. >> so i understand you said you received assurances about their ability to handle classified information that they'll have access to, but as you know, dr. ronny jackson was demoted by the navy because a pentagon inspector general report found he had been taking sedatives while providing medical care to two u.s. presidents. that kind of compromising behavior would be disqualifying for most people when it comes to receiving a security clearance or having any access to the nation's secrets. >> i'm aware of those reports. as you indicated, they are unrelated tot handling of classified information, and certainly the individuals in his district believe that those issues are resolved. he presents himself to congress with his military background,
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and we're going to be certainly working with the speaker and with mr. jackson that again, he is a very productive member of our committee, and if there are any incidences, the speaker has ind indicated that as with mr. perry, he will look into these. >> there are others who don't have these compromising situations over their heads. >> there certainly was a broad range of individuals who sought these seats. >> yeah. you were with donald trump when he was on capitol hill this past week and he met with lawmakers. is it true as congressman matt gaetz claims that mr. trump said, ukrainians are never going to be there for us, and that he was trashing the ukraine aid bill to speaker johnson's face which gaetz said is, quote, so epic. is that true and did anyone push back? >> i don't believe that president trump did that. i was certainly present. he did raise issues of how the
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ukraine issue is being handled, but i think there's certainly enough criticism to go around with the ukrainians not being given the authority to use weapons inside russia to hit targets that are hitting them, but i think overall what was important is that trump was very focused on what his issues were as to why he was seeking the presidency, and the changes in policies and the biden administration, border was an issue. energy was an niche. the economy, china, and inflation were as issue, all ones where he had real con create things that the biden administration did to reverse his policies that have resulted in negative consequences for our country that he intends to reverse back. >> we will see if he stands by ukraine then if he is elected. chair turner, thank you for your time. >> i believe he will, and certainly of the members who are strongly supporting ukraine, we certainly believe that he will, and it certainly is essential. >> chair turner, thank you for your itemtime this morning. >> thank you. we turn to the democratic
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governor of maryland wes moore. he joins us from annapolis. happy father's day. >> thank you so much. i appreciate it. happy father's day to everyone watching. >> this past week you reopened the port of baltimore just three months after the collapse of the francis scott key bridge. how long before full shipping traffic returns and you see that benefit to your economy? >> well, the benefit has already begun, and i'm so inspired by the work that this state pulled off. i mean, we showed that in maryland, we do big things because that morning, i know people were saying this could take six, nine months, up to a year to clear the federal channel and what many people said would take 11 months, we got done in 11 weeks and it's because we worked together. the port of baltimore is reopened and the full federal channel, 700 feet by a 50-foot depth has full access. that's an extraordinary accomplishment. >> and the federal government has provided some support here too. i've read reports that the cost of rebuilding the bridge could
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be nearly $2 billion. is that accurate? >> i can tell you the biden administration have been phenomenal partners. the estimated cost could be between $1.7 billion and $1.9 billion, and the reason we are urging a federal cost share and a 100% cost share is just simply because we have to move quickly, and i need to get this done on time and on budget. we know that in order to move fast, we've got to get that 100% cost share, so we are spending time working with members of both sides of the aisle, democrats and republicans, but to know if we can work together in this moecment, we are going get something really important for the american economy done. >> congress would still need to sign off on that, and president biden has pledged as you just mentioned, to use federal dollars to rebuild, but we are getting very close to an election. do you believe that you will get that support and those funds appropriated before we see a
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possible change in administration? >> i have been incredibly encouraged by the amount of support that we've received from both democrats and republicans, and i do feel confident we are knock going to get this done. >> i want to ask you about another tragic death in your state. a maryland mom named rachel morrin was killed last august, and yesterday a suspect in her killing was arrested out in oklahoma. he's a 23-year-old from el salvador and hartford county sheriff jeffrey galler said he had ties to a criminal gang and he had murdered another woman in el salvador. take a listen. >> 1600 pennsylvania avenue, and to every member in both chambers of congress, we are 1,800 miles away here in hartford county. we are 1,800 miles away from the southern border, and the american citizens are not safe because of failed immigration policies. >> i know that sheriff is a republican, governor, but do you also hold the federal government partially responsible for the death of this maryland resident?
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>> my heart is broken for the family. as is our entire state. she should still be here, and the sheriff is absolutely right. we have an immigration policy that needed to have been dealt with and was not, and the consequences then fall on us as the chief executives of our states. the consequences fall on us as the leaders of our individualized jurisdictions, and we know that we have got to fix a broken immigration policy, and we know that we need congress to act on this, and this is why this was so unbh unbelievably frustrating, that when you have a coalition that is a bipartisan coalition of both democrats and republicans that get literally right up to the line to be able to get a deal done, that because you had -- you had president trump who said this was not adventageous politically, that the deal was killed. there is an unbelievable frustration, and this is what people don't like about fe politics. we've got to get this deal done, and we need congress the act on it.
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>> the president did take executive action recently to try shut down the border through cutting off asylum claims in effect. i know the aclu just filed a lawsuit to try to stop him. do you agree with the president's decision? >> i agree with the executive action. i also just know it's not going to be enough, and this is not politics. politics should not get in the way of public safety, and i know for all of us who have to deal with the downstream impacts of broken policies that we know that we need congress to act on this. >> on politics, i know you are a surrogate for president biden and helping with his campaign. you were in philly with him recently as part of a strategy to shore up black voter support. according to our cbs polling, nationwide, president biden is effectively tied with donald trump, but among black voters, mr. trump has 18% support. that's twice the level he received in 2020. so why do you think that is ticking up?
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>> well, i do think there is a larger challenge that we're seeing amongst african americans, and particularly african american men. that's an american problem, and i think we have to understand the history of all this as well, that, you know, i'm the -- i'm the governor of maryland in a state that we have an 8 to 1 wealth gap, and that's not because one group works eight times harder. i know the governor of a state where our largest city, baltimore, is the home of redlines and where home appraisals and values and the ability to purchase a home was based on racial lines, and so these have been longstanding challenges and issues that frankly our country has not fully addressed. now what i know that we're seeing with president biden is we're actually having plans and not platitudes to be able to address these issues. so when you are looking at the president focusing on things like home ownership where we have one of the fastest growing rates of home ownership that we've seen in the past 20 years,
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the fastest rate of black-owned businesses and particularly for black men that we've seen now in 30 years, those are plans that are actually bearing fruit, and these are the type of things that we have to be able to acknowledge. >> governor, more to talk to you about, but we have to leave it there. thank you for your time today. "face the nation" will be back in one minute. stay with us. it there. "face the nation" will be back. stay with us.
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we've got fresh signs that the u.s. inflation is moderating. mark straussman has more. >> reporter: sure, inflation is cooling, but it still makes millions of americans hot. >> everything is so much higher than it was two years ago, three years ago. >> reporter: compared to one year ago, consumer prices were up 3.3% last month. still too high for the federal reserve, and its 2% goal. the fed left its benchmark interest rate intact last week. >> we've made good progress and we're in the phase now of just, you know, sticking with it until we get it done. >> reporter: the fed says one
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interest rate cut is likely by the end of the year, although timing is unclear. that means borrowers may get little relief before november's presidential elections. voters are feeling frustrations inflated with the economy. >> i'm making more money now, but i'm more broke now than i was in 2020. >> reporter: in our latest cbs news poll, 72% of americans say higher prices have been a hardship or difficult. 63% rate the economy as fairly bad or very bad. >> eggs, milk, bread, everything is really high so that's a big ticket issue. >> reporter: she's right. food prices up 1% over the last year have surged about 20% since 2021, and people vent frustration with housing prices. too few homes are for sale, and mortgage rates hover around 7%. >> and it's a really big topic between my friends and i, even my families. will we be able to buy a house? >> reporter: the number of americans filing for
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unemployment benefits reached its highest level in the week ending june 8th, but the jobless rate is still relatively low, and employers are still hiring. nearly 3 million jobs added over the last year. wages are up, outpacing inflation, and wealthier families feeling flush keep spending, but the less you make, the more you feel it. >> i just noticed that increase in price on everything. >> reporter: fed chairman powell hears the complaints. >> inflation has come down really significantly, and we're doing everything we can. we're confident that we'll get there. >> reporter: that was mark straussmann reporting. we're now joined from minneapolis. neil, this past week, you decided to keep interest rates where they are, but in canada, in europe, they're seeing promising signs of inflation, and they did cut. what more do you need to see? >> well, margaret, we need to see more evidence to convince us
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that i flanflation is well on o way back down to 2%. the job market remains strong, but there's a really important difference between the u.s. and those other countries. the u.s. economic fundamentals are much stronger than in most other advanced economies around the world, so they're facing declining inflation and economic weakness. we're facing declining inflation slowly, but economic strength, and that's what's leading to this divergence in monetary policies. >> you just said that the jobs market is remaining strong. when you were last here, you said you personally don't think it's realistic we could end this inflation cycle with no cost to the job market. we are starting to see jobless claims tick up a bit. do you expect to see more of that in the weeks and months to come? >> it's certainly possible. the job market has performed much better than i expected. when we raised rates so quickly and aggressively, we thought we would be tapping the brakes
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harder on the job market. that hasn't yet happened. when i talk to businesses around my region, they're still hiring by and large and they're still having to compete to find workers, but it's not the overheated job market that we saw a year or two ago. there may be more cooling yet to come. i hope it's modest cooling and then we can get back down to more of a balanced economy. >> bank of america predicts that the fed will cut rates once this year, but that the wait until december to do it. what do you think of that prediction? >> you know, i think that's a reasonable prediction. if you look at what we call the summary of economic projections that my colleagues and i all put out this past week, the median forecast was for one cut this year. it's really going to depend on the data, and we're in a very good position right now to take our time, get more inflation data, get more data on the economy, on the labor market before we have to make any decisions. so we're in a strong position, but if you just said there's going to be one cut which is what the median indicated, that would likely be toward the end
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of the year. >> we have more to follow up on that, neel, but i have to ask you to stay with us through the commercial break and we'll finish it on the other side. we'll be right back. it on the other side. we'll be right back.
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two communities were rocked by two communities were rocked by mass shootings this weekend. yesterday around, police say a man randomly fired shots at a city park in rochester hills, michigan near detroit. nine people were injured including two children under the age of 10. the gunman then hid in a nearby home where police say he likely died of a self-inflicted gunshot wound. overnight in texas, a shooting at a juneteenth celebration left two dead and six injured in the community of round rock, about 20 miles north of austin. police say a fight between two groups broke out and at least one person began firing a weapon. we'll be right back. began firing a weapon. we'll be right back. around here? are they good, bad, meh? (luke) marci, we've gotta go. (marci) i'm sorry.
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president president and ceo of the minneapolis federal reserve bank, neel kashkari and the future of green energy. neel kashkari and bill gates on the future of green energy.
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