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i'm margaret brennan in washington. this week on "face the nation," u.s. officials are also stepping up warnings of a terror attack here in the u.s. president biden spent most of his week thousands of miles away from home conferring with
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g7 allies in italy, including some face time with italy's most famous resident. to a star-studded hollywood fund-raiser with his former boss and his son. over shadowing the president's week, son hunter's conviction on federal gun charges. >> i said i abide by the jury decision, i will do that. i will not pardon him. less than a month before his sentencing, donald trump took a trip to capitol hill. his first since the january 6th attack. he rallied republicans and made amends with some of his frostier followers. ♪ happy birthday ♪ >> after a celebration of his 78th birthday, the former president spent the weekend in michigan courting black voters. at a conservative gathering he seizeds onge new security threats to make his case for why he'll keep the case safer. >> i.c.e. arrested not one, not two but eight suspected
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terrorists. we're going to pay a big price. we have to get them out fast. >> we'll ask mike turner about that plot. and the urgent warnings by top officials this a terror attack could happen on u.s. soil. >> i would be hard-pressed to think of a time when so many different threats to our public safety and national security were so elevated all at the same time. >> maryland democratic governor wes moore will also be plus, we'll talk to the president of the minneapolis federal reserve, neel kashkari, about the state of the economy. finally, a conversation with bill gates. he's invested more than a billion dollars in a nuclear energy company. we'll ask him why he believes it's a big part of america's green energy future. it's all just ahead on "face the nation."
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and we have a lot to get to this morning. we're going to begin with republican chairman of the house intelligence committee ohio congressman mike turner. welcome back to "face the nation." >> good morning, margaret. >> chair turner, last week, as you know, there were federal immigration arrests, these eight individuals with suspected ties to isis. they were rounded up in philadelphia, los angeles and new york. they traveled from central asia tajiskistan across the central border into the u.s. do you have any indication there is an active terror plot? >> well, margaret, i can neither confirm nor deny all the details you've just reported, but what's important about these reports and what we're seeing, especially in conjunction with director wray's public statements that we are at the highest level of a possible terrorist threat, that the administration's policies have absolutely directly related to
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threats to americans. these are no longer speculative, no longer hypothetical. we have actual administration officials stepping forward and certainly our committee and our committee members have concurred on the intelligence that we're seeing that as a result of the administration's policies allowing people to cross the border unvetted, we have terrorists that are actively working within the united states that are a threat to americans. >> the issue as we understand it from our reporting is that there was vetting but that the vetting didn't turn up nir derogatory information. doesn't that indicate that there's a broader problem with the system that congress would also have to address? >> margaret, there are those who are vetted and in the vetting process there is not evidence the united states currently has that they're actively engaged in terrorist plotting or engaged with terrorist groups organizations, and this administration by their own policy are then allowing those individuals in instead of fully vetting them, fully
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understanding what the risk is to the united states and for the fact that they're letting them in and they are entering the united states through the southern border illegally. that's what the threat is. that's what director wray is ind fieg is bring forward this administration's policies directly resulting in people who are in the united states illegally who have ties to terrorist groups and organizations and this is a threat. >> the u.s. has already been in a heightened threat environment, but this past week our cbs colleague and the former deputy cia director mike morell wrote a piece in foreign affairs writing that the united states faces a serious threat of a terrorist attack in the months ahead. he called on congressional intelligence committees like the one you chair to have public hearings with the c, fbi and national count or terrorism center. will you -- >> public unclassified information from those individuals? >> the testimony that you just played of direct or wray was the
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result of the intelligence committees, including mine, he was testifying before my committee and said exactly the same thing publicly of the threat. what we have done and continued to do and what this administration needs to be held to is that they need to declassify the information of the terrorist threats that they're seeing so he there can be a public discourse concerning what the administration's risks and threats were. it was noble and expected as a result of the biden administration's policy of an open souther border and we are seeing it absolutely across the country and my committee has been open. my members have been open and publicly discussing this threat and pointing the finger directly at the administration's policies. >> as you know, the administration points back at congress saying they asked for more authorities and congress refused to act. i want to ask you about the intelligence committee. you've tried to keep it nonpartisan as you've said on this program. speaker johnson though recently decided, as you know, to add two congressmen, scott perry and dr. ronnie jackson to your
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committee, reportedly at the behest of donald trump. one of your members, congresswoman chrissie howelly han, referred to perry as a threat to intelligence oversight. quote, he will be on the very committee that oversees the fbi while he is directly under investigation by this very agency. do you think that is a disqualifying conflict of interest? >> well, being concerned obviously about that issue and being the chairman, i contacted vic to see whether or not there was issue in due diligence that we needed to resolve or address. they indicated there was not an ongoing or continuing issue or even a current issue we needed to address. the issue here that's most important. >> the fbi told you that? >> the ic told us that. the speaker makes this appointment and what he's done since. the speaker has absolutely committed himself to these two individuals, following the rules, not only the laws. both of them have military experience. both of them have had access to classified information before.
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there's been no reports of any incidents of their mishandling of classified information. the speaker has met with our committee. republican members. he has spoken directly to jim himes. we've had a meeting myself and the speaker where all of these assurances have been made. the speaker has said this, he's going to continue to monitor the situation. if there's any indication of anything improper happening he will intervene. i believe the speaker will assert leadership here. >> and withdraw? scott perry has come out and took aim at you, as you know, because he said if he gets on this committee, he'll conduct actual oversight, not blind obedience be to some facets of our intelligence community. he claimed they're spying on the american people. how do you respond to that? >> he has apologized. certainly those are the types of words you would not want from somebody who is joining a committee that is obviously very dedicated to national security and working in a bipartisan way.
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i think upon him joining the committee and looking a the the work that both he gets to do and the work that we're doing, that he'll be absolutely satisfied that he can play a role to -- in the work that we're doing for national security. >> i understand you received assurances about their ability to handle classified information that they'll have access to, but as you know, dr. ronnie jackson was demoted by the navy because a pentagon inspector general report found he had been taking sedatives while providing medical care to two u.s. presidents. that kind of compromising behavior would be disqualifying to most people when it comes to receiving security clearance or having any access to the nation's secrets. >> i'm aware of those reports. as you've just indicated though, they are unrelated to the handling of classified information. certainly the individuals in his district feel those are resolved. he presents himself to congress with his military background and
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we're going to be certainly working with the speaker and with mr. jackson so, again, he is a very productive member of our committee and if there are any incidents the speaker has indicated, as with mr. perry, that he will enforce our rules. >> there are -- these seats could be filled by republicans with national security backgrounds who don't have these kind of compromising situations over their heads. >> there certainly was a broad range be of individuals who sought these seats. >> you were with donald trump past week and he met with lawmakers. is it true, as congressman matt gaetz claims, that mr. trump said ukrainians are never going to be there for us and that he was trashing the ukraine aid bill to speaker johnson's face, which gaetz said is, quote, so epic. is that true? did anyone push back? >> i don't believe president trump did that. i was certainly present. he did raise issues of how the
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ukraine issue is being handled. i think there's certainly enough criticism to go around the ukrainians not being given the authority to use weapons inside russia to hit targets that are hitting them. but i think overall what's important is that trump was very focused on what his issues were as to why he was seeking the presidency and the changes in policies in the biden administration. border was an issue. energy was an issue. economy, china, inflation were an issue. all ones where he had real concrete things that the biden admnistration did to reverse his policies that have resulted in negative consequences for our country that he intends to reverse back. >> we will see if he stands by ukraine then if he is elected. chair turner, thank you for your time. >> i believe he will. certainly of the members who are strongly support tiff of ukraine, we certainly believe he will and it is essential. >> thank you for your time this morning. >> thank you. and we turn now to the democratic governor of maryland, wes moore. he joins us from annapolis.
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happy father's day. >> thank you so much. really appreciate it. happy father's day to you all watching. >> this past week you reopened the port of baltimore just three months after the collapse of the francis scott key bridge. how long before full shipping traffic returns and you see that benefit to your economy? >> the benefit has already begun, and i'm so inspired by the work that this state pulled off. we showed that in maryland we do big things because that morning i know we were saying this could take six, nine months, up to a year to clear the federal channel. what many people said was going to take 11 months we got done in 11 weeks. it's because we worked together. the fact that the port of baltimore is reopened. the fact that the full federal channel, 750 feet via 50 foot depth has full access is an extraordinary accomplishment. >> and the federal government has provided some support here, too. i've read reports that the cost of rebuilding the bridge could
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be nearly $2 billion. is that accurate? >> i can tell you, the biden administration have been phenomenal partners. so we know the estimated cost could be between 1.7 and $1.9 billion. the reason we are urging the federal cost share and a 100% cost share is just simply because we have to move quickly, and i need to get this done on time and on budget. we know that in order to move fast, we've got to get that 100% cost share. we are spending time working with members of both sides of the aisle, democrats and republicans, but to know that if we can work together in this moment, we are going to get something really important for the american economy done. >> well, congress would still need to sign off on that, and president biden has pledged, as you just mentioned, to use federal dollars to rebuild. but we are getting very close to an election. do you believe that you will get that support and those funds appropriated before we see a possible change in
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administration? >> i've been incredibly encouraged by the amount of support we've received from both democrats and republicans. i do feel confident we are going to get this done. >> i want to ask you about another tragic death in your state. a maryland mom named rachel morin was killed last august. yesterday a suspect in her killing was arrested out in oklahoma. he's a 23-year-old from el salvador and hartford county sheriff said he had ties to a criminal gang and he had murdered another woman in el salvador. take a listen. >> 1600 pennsylvania avenue and to every member in both chambers of congress, we are 1800 miles away here in harford county. 1800 miles away from the southern border and the american citizens are not safe because of failed immigration policies. >> i know that sheriff is a republican, governor, but do you also hold the federal government partially responsible for the death of this maryland resident? >> my heart is broken for the
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family, as is our entire state. she should still be here, and the sheriff is absolutely right. i mean, we have an immigration policy that needed to have been dealt with and was not. and the consequences then fall on us as the chief executives of our state. the consequences fall on us as the leaders of our individualized jurisdictions. we know that we have got to fix a broken immigration policy and we know that we need congress to act on this. and this is why thfis was so unbelievably frustrating. when you have a coalition that is a bipartisan coalition of both democrats and republicans that get literally right up to the line to get a deal done, that because you had president trump who said this was not advantageous politically, that the deal was killed. there is an unbelievable frustration, and this is what people don't like about po politics, we've got to get this deal done and we need congress to act on it. >> the president did take
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executive action recently to try shutting off asylum claims in effect. i know the aclu filed a lawsuit to try to stop him. do you agree with the president's decision? >> i agree with the executive action. i also just know it's not going to be enough. this is not politics. politics should not get in the way of public safety. and i know for all of us who have to deal with the downstream impacts of broken policies, that we know that we need congress to act on this. >> on politics i know you are a surrogate for president biden in helping with his campaign. you were in philly with him recently as part of a strategy to shore up black voter support. according to our cbs polling, nationwide president biden is effectively tied with donald trump, but among black voters mr. trump has 18% support. that's twice the level he received in 2020. so why do you think that is ticking up? >> well, i do think there is a
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larger challenge be that we're seeing amongst african americans, and particularly african american men that's an american problem. i think we have to understand the history of all of this as well that, you know, i'm the governor of maryland in a state that we have an 8 to 1 racial wealth gap in the state of maryland. we know that's not because one group works eight times harder. i know i'm the governor of a state where our largest city baltimore is the home of redlining and historical redlining where home appraisals, values, the ability to purchase a home was based on racial lines. these have been long standing challenges and issues that frankly our country has not fully addressed. now it's -- what i know that we're seeing with president biden is we're actually having plans and not platitudes to be able to address these issues. when you're looking at the president focusing on things like homeownership, we have one of the fastest growing things like homeownership in years. the fastest rate of black owned
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businesses particularly for black men that we've seen now in 30 years, those are plans that are actually bearing fwrruit. these are the things we need to talk about. >> governor, more to talk about. we have to leave it there. "face the nation" will be back. stay with us.
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fresh signs that inflation in the u.s. is moderating. our mark strassmann has more. >> sure, inflation's cooling, but it still makes millions of americans hot. >> everything is so much higher than it was two years ago, three years ago. >> reporter: compared to one year ago, consumer prices were up 3.3% last month. still too high for the federal reserve and its 2% goal. the fed left its benchmark interest rate intact last week. >> we made good progress and we're in the phase now of just, you know, sticking with it until we get it done. >> reporter: the fed says one interest rate cut is likely by
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the end of the year, although the timing is unclear. that means borrowers may get little relief before november's presidential elections. voters are feeling frustrations with the economy. >> i'm making more money now but i'm more broke now than i was in 2 2020. >> reporter: in our latest cbs poll, 22% say hier prices have been a hardship. 63% rate it as fairly bad or very bad. >> eggs, milk, bread, everything is very high. that is a big ticket issue. >> reporter: she's right. food prices up 1% over the last year have surged about 20% since 2021 and people vent frustration with housing prices. too few homes are for sale and mortgage rates hover around 7%. >> and it is a really big topic between my friends and i, even my families. will we be able to buy a house? >> reporter: the number of americans filing for unemployment benefits reached
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its highest level in 10 months in the week ending june 8th but the jobless rate is relatively low and employers are still hiring. nearly 3 million jobs added over the last year. wages are up outpacing inflation and wealthier familis feeling flush keep spending. but the less you make, the more you feel it. >> i just noticed the increase in price on everything. >> reporter: fed chairman powell hears the complaints. >> inflation has come down really significantly and we're doing everything we can. we're confident we'll get there. >> that was mark strassmann reporting. we go now to the president of the minneapolis federal reserve. neel, this past week you decided to keep interest rates where they are. in it canada, in europe they're seeing promising signs of inflation and they did cut. what more do you need to see? >> well, margaret, we need to see more evidence to convince us that inflation is well on our
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way back down to 2%. the good news is as you're reporting, the job market remains strong but there's a really important difference between the u.s. and those countries. the u.s. economic fundamentals are much stronger than most other advanced economies around the world. they're facing declining inflation and economic weakness. we're facing declining inflation slowly but economic strength. that's what's leading to this divergence in monetary policies. >> you just said that the jobs market is remaining strong. when you were last here you said you personally don't think it's realistic we could end this inflation cycle with no cost to the job market. we are starting to see jobless claims tick up a bit. do you expect to see more of that in the weeks and months to come? >> it's certainly possible. the job market has performed much better than i had expected. i thought when we raised rates so quickly and so aggressively we'd be tapping the brakes
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harder on the job market. that hasn't yet happened. when i talk to businesses around my region, they're still hiring by and large and still having to compete to find workers but it's not the over heated job market we saw a year or two ago. there may be more cooling yet to come. i hope it's modest cooling and then we can get back down to a more modest economy. >> bank of america says the fed will cut rates but they'll wait until december. what do you think of that prediction? >> you know, i think that's a reasonable prediction if you look at what we call the summary of economic projections we all put out this past week. the median forecast was for one cut this year. it's really going to depend on the data, and we are in a very good position right now to take our time, get more inflation data, get more data on the economy, on the labor market before we have to make any decisions. so we're in a strong position. if you said there's going to be one cut, which is what the median indicated, that would be likely towards the end of the
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year. >> we have more to follow-up on that, neel, but i'm going to have to take a commercial break and ask you to stay with us through it and finish it on the other side. we'll be right back.
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two communities were rocked by mass shootings this weekend. yesterday afternoon police say a man randomly fired shots at a city park in rochester hills, michigan, near detroit. nine people were injured including two children under the age of ten. the gunman then hid in a nearby home where police say he likely died of a self-inflicted gunshot wound. overnight in texas a shooting at a juneteenth celebration left two dead and six injured in the community of round rock 20 miles north of austin. a fight between two groups broke out and at least one person began firing a weapon. we'll be right back. around here? are they good, bad, meh? (luke) marci, we've gotta go. (marci) i'm sorry. (luke) we've got seventeen thousand more parks to visit.
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- lift the clouds off of... - virtual weather, only on kpix and pix+. welcome back to "face the nation." we return to our conversation now with minneapolis federal reserve bank president kneel kcash kari.